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Rumor: Seaborne May Fly As American Eagle  
User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32787 posts, RR: 72
Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8681 times:

This rumor has been around for a few months ago, but it's apparently closer to becoming reality now than before. Talk is that AMR is trying to negotiate with pilots to allow a third-party operator to run a San Juan prop base (which isn't much of a secret).

That third-party airline is supposedly Virgin Islands-based Seaborne Airlines, and instead of just being a codeshare deal, there has been talk Seaborne might take on the American Eagle brand.

Perhaps not coincidently, Seaborne just moved to San Juan's terminal D, sharing check-in space with AA.

http://www.seaborneairlines.com/


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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8656 times:

I have heard that AMR announced internally today that AA plans to codeshare with Cape Air out of SJU to EIS/VQS/MAZ/NEV, so not sure if Seaborne is still in the mix ...

User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32787 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8539 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 1):
I have heard that AMR announced internally today that AA plans to codeshare with Cape Air out of SJU to EIS/VQS/MAZ/NEV, so not sure if Seaborne is still in the mix ...

Yes, this has been announced, but this would be on top of the Cape Air deal, which has also been concurrently in the works. The Cape Air deal isn't very extensive and operates exclusively as a feeder agreement - Cape Air flights can't be booked individually as AA segments.

[Edited 2013-02-04 16:07:35]


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User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3133 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8539 times:
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So des this mean we'll see AE-branded Twin Otters if this happens? That should be interesting..


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8508 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 3):
So des this mean we'll see AE-branded Twin Otters if this happens? That should be interesting..

Maybe Seaborne will take on some Dash 8s or ATRs as well if this happens.



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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8483 times:

Would Seaborne get new planes for this or would they just use the twin otters? And if they did get new planes, what would they be?

I guess what would really be cool to see would be an amphibious Eagle painted otter..

[Edited 2013-02-04 16:10:31]


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User currently offlineusxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8460 times:

well Seaborne keeps changing their schedules close-in, so maybe this is being driven from the Seaborne side of the house as "wishful" thinking ....

Cape Air already has a relationship with American...



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8306 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 2):
Yes, this has been announced, but this would be on top of the Cape Air deal, which has also been concurrently in the works. The Cape Air deal isn't very extensive and operates exclusively as a feeder agreement - Cape Air flights can't be booked individually as AA segments.

Interesting - can't necessarily see why this is that important to AA, but perhaps AA really does still want to keep a branded position throughout the Caribbean, including the smaller islands.


User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32787 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8245 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 7):
Interesting - can't necessarily see why this is that important to AA, but perhaps AA really does still want to keep a branded position throughout the Caribbean, including the smaller islands.

I'd argue that's exactly what it wants to do. And if the flying is at-risk - which I would go out on a limb and assume any such deal with Seaborne would be - little harm for AA in doing this.

There has also been talk AA would like to get some prop flying for Miami for Bahamas/intra-Florida.



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User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8176 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 3):
So des this mean we'll see AE-branded Twin Otters if this happens?
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 4):
Maybe Seaborne will take on some Dash 8s or ATRs as well if this happens.

They have Saab 340's on property and they are hiring flight attendants for them right now.


User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8013 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 8):
There has also been talk AA would like to get some prop flying for Miami for Bahamas/intra-Florida.

And yet they just shut down Executive and the ATR operation. WTF??



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7985 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 8):
if the flying is at-risk - which I would go out on a limb and assume any such deal with Seaborne would be - little harm for AA in doing this.

Sure - makes sense.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 8):
There has also been talk AA would like to get some prop flying for Miami for Bahamas/intra-Florida.

Now that I could totally see. I could definitely see AA wanting to put some cheap props into some of the smaller Bahamas (BIM, TCB, GHB) and Florida (APF, GNV, etc.) markets.

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 10):
And yet they just shut down Executive and the ATR operation. WTF??

Simple. BB is no doubt way, way cheaper than OW.


User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7098 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 3):
So des this mean we'll see AE-branded Twin Otters if this happens? That should be interesting..
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 4):
Maybe Seaborne will take on some Dash 8s or ATRs as well if this happens.
Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 9):
They have Saab 340's on property and they are hiring flight attendants for them right now.

Yep, operating out of SJU......

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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2388 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6991 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 3):
So des this mean we'll see AE-branded Twin Otters if this happens? That should be interesting..

Hmmm that would be interesting, what I would find really interesting is if they open up a MNI-SJU route with the twin otters... Wishful thinking of course...



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User currently offlinetonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6970 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 8):
There has also been talk AA would like to get some prop flying for Miami for Bahamas/intra-Florida.

Could this possibly mean MLB service?


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3480 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5177 times:

The funny thing is AA pilots dont lose with this. It could only help fill mainline flights. None of these were mainline flights anyway. So it is a win win.

But you have to wonder what and who ALPO is representing in this...because they are doing a real sh***y job representing the Eagle pilots.


User currently offlineusxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4431 times:

as mentioned earlier, it looks like Cape Air is already on the move.... now to see if Seaborne gets added into the mix.

We have friends in high places! American Airlines and Cape Air have announced their new expanded codeshare relationship in the Caribbean. The codeshare agreement now includes Cape Air’s flights between San Juan, Puerto Rico (SJU) and the following destinations: Vieques and Mayaguez, Puerto Rico; Nevis; Anguilla; and Tortola.

Members of the American Airlines AAdvantage® program will be able to earn and redeem miles on the codeshare flights operated by Cape Air, providing another valuable benefit of the relationship. Customers can begin booking travel on codeshare flights as early as today for travel beginning Feb. 7, 2013 to Vieques, Mayaguez, Nevis, and Anguilla – and for travel beginning on April 1, 2013 for Tortola.

Visit www.aa.com to book online.



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3771 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

Well, AA returns to Mayaguez, but would this be the first time that AA has had a presence of some sort at Vieques?

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 14):
Could this possibly mean MLB service?

I'd like to see DAB get AA service as well.



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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32787 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3873 times:

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 17):
but would this be the first time that AA has had a presence of some sort at Vieques?

No. Eagle flew to Vieques in the mid-00's.



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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32787 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3086 times:

Effective immediately Seabourne and AA are now interlining. In addition to combining check-in facilities at SJU, they will combine at STX (completed) and STT.


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User currently offlineaacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3049 times:
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Quoting mah4546 (Reply 18):

As far as I know , the service never started. Ticket counter was set up and start up date announced, but I dont think they ever began flying the route.


User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

American Eagle/Executive never flew to Vieques, they conducted several flights as proving runs from SJU but Vieques airport was unable to get certification or the infrastructure to welcome AE scheduled services.

User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1046 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 13):
Hmmm that would be interesting, what I would find really interesting is if they open up a MNI-SJU route with the twin otters... Wishful thinking of course...

Sign me up for SJU-SBH!


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2998 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

I mentioned it in the weekly schedule update thread, but thought it deserved a post on this topic too. In addition to the interline agreement with AA, Seaborne is launching SJU-DOM/FDF/PTP. The new flights will be operated by SF3s. Codesharing would seem like the logical next step...it will be interesting to see what happens.

Press release here: http://www.seaborneairlines.com/wp-c...ads/SAL-DOMPTP-Feb-19-Engl-Spa.pdf



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