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User currently offlinehoons90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3077 posts, RR: 52
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2951 times:
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CM has already built an impressive network out of PTY, and yet they still have quite a lot of 737s still on order. What other destinations would they reasonably be able to add?

Curitiba, Salvador da Bahia and perhaps even Ciudad del Este? What about Cuzco? Would FLL be far fetched?


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User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4396 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Santa Marta, Colombia; New Orleans, Lousiana; San Francisco, California; Montréal, Canada; La Paz, Bolivia; Arequipa, Perú; Belize City, Belize and Dallas, Texas come to mind too. There are several others.

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

Quoting hoons90 (Thread starter):

CM has already built an impressive network out of PTY, and yet they still have quite a lot of 737s still on order. What other destinations would they reasonably be able to add?

Curitiba, Salvador da Bahia and perhaps even Ciudad del Este? What about Cuzco? Would FLL be far fetched?

BZE
TPA
MSY
BGI
GCM

in addition to a couple in Brazil are just a few said to be in the running....

Personally, I think BZE should be one 



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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

Quoting hoons90 (Thread starter):
Curitiba, Salvador da Bahia and perhaps even Ciudad del Este? What about Cuzco? Would FLL be far fetched?

My comments:
CWB yes, but B737 will be weight-restricted when taking-off to PTY (CM doesn't have B737-600 which can take off full-loaded from CWB rather short and - for Brazil - high altitude runway)
SSA yes, flown alone or combined w/REC
Ciudad del Este, not likely in the near future, ASU frequency increase would come 1st.
CUZ, as far as it's known, CM hasn't order any B737 with the high altitude airport operation kit.
FLL may work, between local FLL area and Port Everglades cruise traffic, CM may currently be able to fill E190 most days of the week.

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 1):
Santa Marta, Colombia; New Orleans, Lousiana; San Francisco, California; Montréal, Canada; La Paz, Bolivia; Arequipa, Perú; Belize City, Belize and Dallas,

SMR (from PTY) it's a bet it'll happen soon.
MSY airport has been after CM for quite some time.
SFO if UA doesn't fly SFO-PTY, CM could but it'll need an Sky-interior B737-700 for that route.
YUL, All CM assigned Canada frequencies are used on CM PTY-YYZ. Flying PTY-YUL as scheduled charter 2-3 times per week (when PTY-YYZ-PTY not flown) may be an option but that's one kind of product CM looks like it doesn't want to deal with.
LPB, same issue with CUZ mentioned above..
AQP is on CM radar, it may happen soon as a concession to Peru in order to get extra frequencies to LIM. CIX is also rumoured.
BZE it'll happen sooner or later.
DFW Tricky one, but it could work, all depending in demand between DFW and CM destinations not properly covered by AA.

Due to bilateral restrictions, I don't see CM adding frequencies from PTY to:
Venezuela, w/exception of PZO and/or PMV,;
Argentina, w/exception SLA
And that only happening if lots of pressure coming from local Venezuelan and Argentinean governments to their respective Civil Aviation Authorities.
CM's P5 may apply for BOG-MAR or MDE-MAR, as CM can't add extra flights to MAR from PTY.

And IMHO, Unless something is done to reduce LIR flights loses, LIR may become a former CM destination soon.



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User currently offlinecybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 510 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):

Due to bilateral restrictions, I don't see CM adding frequencies from PTY to:
Venezuela, w/exception of PZO and/or PMV,;

If there were no bilateral restrictions we could see 2xMAR, BRM and BLA also... I heard CM knows the market is there but they are tied with the Venezuelan/Panama bilateral agreements. Now BLA-PTY is being served by 9V and aparently they are doing good.

Cheers.



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User currently offlinejpyvr From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

Please add FOR to the Brazilian wish-list! Addition of CM serice here would help to eliminate the lack of northbound service that currently exists, and would eliminate that torturuous necessity to travel south just to head north.

User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1689 times:

Quoting jpyvr (Reply 5):
Please add FOR to the Brazilian wish-list! Addition of CM serice here would help to eliminate the lack of northbound service that currently exists, and would eliminate that torturuous necessity to travel south just to head north.

If REC loads remain under CM expectations, I could foresee PTY-REC-FOR-PTY.



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User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 950 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1675 times:

I just flew from PTY to Dallas today. I was shocked there was no nonstop as AA routes the pax thru MIA. I chose DL thru ATL the other option was UA thru IAH. I know that CM is adding BOS and I could easily see DFW, SFO and maybe TPA and FLL. I would LOVE to see ATL but doubt that will ever happen as when CM were in SkyTeam they did not serve ATL.


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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4064 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1668 times:
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Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 1):
Santa Marta, Colombia; New Orleans, Lousiana; San Francisco, California; Montréal, Canada; La Paz, Bolivia; Arequipa, Perú; Belize City, Belize and Dallas, Texas come to mind too. There are several others.

I can see SFO starting 3x a week to start with a 73G.
I don't see DFW starting. AA has this market has pretty well covered. I think it would be different if CM was part of OW. I believe CM/UA has a JV from IAH/ORD?


User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33272 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 7):
I just flew from PTY to Dallas today. I was shocked there was no nonstop as AA routes the pax thru MIA.

AA flies DFWPTY thrice weekly - WeSaSu.



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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1567 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 9):
AA flies DFWPTY thrice weekly - WeSaSu.

True, AA uses those DFW flights to reroute MIA connecting passengers to free PTY-MIA (Florida) O/D seats.
AA really have to be doing lousy (service and frequency wise) to see CM jump to the PTY-DFW route.



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