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Air China’s PEK-IAH Service Now Ready For Booking  
User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4987 times:

Since the previous thread announcing the start of Air China's PEK-IAH has be archived, I am starting a new one to advise that booking is now open on this flight after a quick round of government approvals.

Air China’s Houston-Beijing Service Now Ready for Booking

Published: February 5, 2013

Following approval from the U.S. Department of Transportation, fares for Air China’s Houston-Beijing flights are now available on the Global Distribution System-

Read more here: http://www.heraldonline.com/2013/02/...beijing-service.html#storylink=cpy

LOS ANGELES — Business and leisure travelers can now book their trip to Beijing and beyond from Houston. Scheduled to start on July 11, 2013, Air China’s new service between Houston and Beijing was approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation.

“The speed that the United States Department of Transportation approved this new route speaks a great deal of the value of the Beijing to Houston connection. Our 30-year partnership with China is a strong foundation to build Air China’s new route to Beijing, which enhances the business opportunities of more than 500 Houston enterprises that today work closely with China,” said Houston Mayor Annise Parker.

[Edited 2013-02-05 07:53:33]

48 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

Welcome to IAH Air China!!!


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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

If this route doesn't succeed I will be very surprised.


When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4749 times:

I think this route could go daily, if it does very well.


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User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4724 times:


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Will be nice to see this flying over Houston skies.


User currently offlinedtfg From China, joined Jan 2013, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

Is there a codeshare agreement with United?

User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4579 times:

Quoting dtfg (Reply 5):


Both in STAR Alliance, I would think they would have something already.


User currently offlinenrt1011 From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

It still amazes me that so many airlines want to fly to Houston. Houston! Did I miss something and suddenly Houston turned into a world class city?

User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7512 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

Quoting nrt1011 (Reply 7):
Did I miss something and suddenly Houston turned into a world class city?

Houston is definately an up and comer. It has really come onto the world stage in the last 15 years or so. The oil industry creates a lot of international demand for the city.



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User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 8):

I bet IAH will get more destinations in years to come.



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User currently offlinePbb152 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 613 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4448 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 9):
I bet IAH will get more destinations in years to come.

Wow, do you really think so? What an incredible insight. You should be an aviation analyst with your ability to make such bold statements. Sheesh!


User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

Quoting nrt1011 (Reply 7):
It still amazes me that so many airlines want to fly to Houston. Houston! Did I miss something and suddenly Houston turned into a world class city?
Quoting nrt1011 (Reply 7):
Houston is definately an up and comer. It has really come onto the world stage in the last 15 years or so. The oil industry creates a lot of international demand for the city.

I have to agree with the "up and coming" aspect. If you take out O&G which is the top driver for the city as well as arguably for the region that is the "Gulf Coast" you will also find that the desire to connect with the city is also for other well reknown industries according to http://www.houston.org/economic-deve...distribution-logistics/index.aspx.

One example mentioned concerns the surface related Shipping / Logistics business in which Houston is:

1st in U.S. port volume of foreign tonnage
2nd in U.S. ports for total tonnage
7th largest U.S. container port
16th largest port in the world
Connects directly to two major railroads, 150 trucking lines and 1000 international ports

The Port of Houston in particular directly correlates with virtually every major shipping company on the planet:

COSCO - China
Hanjin - China
Maersk - Denmark
Hapag Lloyd - Germany
Hamburg Sud - Germany
P&O NedLloyd - Holland
Stolt-Nielson - Holland
Evergreen Group - Taiwan
Yang Seng - China

Other areas in which Houston has become an attractive destination would be regarding the UT Medical / MD Anderson Cancer Research Center (people around the globe come here for specialized treatments they may not be able to obtain in the home countries).

Biotech / Life Science industry is also another industry that is coming online at a greater pace than ever before. In fact, alot of these experts work in both the Life Sciences industry or are affiiliated with the UT Med Center / MD Anderson in which they come from other countries too include the EU, China, India, Pakistan, as well as some African / Caribbean nations.

Let's not forget the research and development industries for both Nano & Advanced Technologies which to some extent go hand in hand with both a thriving Energy and Aerospace & Aviation industry (ie: the Johnson Space Center, United Space Alliance and Lockheed Martin).

Then finally, their's a final element that comes to mind which would be the number of global headquarters based in Houston....23 to be exact in which Houston is 2nd in the country behind only NYC.

Personally, I don't see how IAH will be able to absorb many more carriers concerning the state T-D is in right now, but I also think that their are not to many more Star Alliance members on the board right now that would actually begin a service to IAH in the future say for Air New Zealand, Scandinavian and possibly ANA. In my mind, once Air China and Turkish come online the pattern is likely going to be full for new additions at least until after construction gets closer to completion.


User currently offlineatct From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2274 posts, RR: 38
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4395 times:

Quoting nrt1011 (Reply 7):

It still amazes me that so many airlines want to fly to Houston. Houston! Did I miss something and suddenly Houston turned into a world class city?

I speant 5 years there. Its a huge city. On top of just oil there are many other energy sector companies based there. Waste Management, Shell (USA), Anadarko, ExxonMobil Upstream, ConocoPhilips, Citgo, Dow Chemical (HQ is in MI), Apache Energy, Saudi Aramco, Men's Warehouse, Sysco, FlightAware, Universal Aviation & Weather, Bristow Group. Marathon Oil, Kinder Morgan, Halliburton, etc. all have their world or US HQ's in Houston. With few exceptions, Houston was one of the only areas in the US not hit with the real estate bubble and subsequent collapse. Cost of living is low, there is low unemployment, and there are alot of skilled jobs in the vicinity. Johnson Space Center and all their associated private groups (Boeing, Lockheed, United Space Alliance etc.) also contribute a high amount of skilled workers.

What I see hindering IAH's growth (and another person has already stated this) is its lack of international terminal space. Without using hard stands and busses, the euro push (mid afternoon through 7-9PM) takes up mostly every gate.



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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2167 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4387 times:

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 11):
Personally, I don't see how IAH will be able to absorb many more carriers concerning the state T-D is in right now

Yeah, especially because according to so many people, none of the additions will come on UA metal and D will run out of space   

sorry, i had to  
Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 11):
Air New Zealand, Scandinavian and possibly ANA.

NZ is possible maybe once (or if) they receive their 789s. I do know that NZ was frustrated when UA decided to pull the much-anticipated IAH-AKL route. It will be interesting if they feel compelled to fill the gap themselves on their own metal, but I can't offer expert opinion on this one.

ANA is interesting, if indeed UA and NH sees potential in going double-daily on IAH-NRT as part of the JV. I personally don't see it happening anytime in the near future given that yields on the US-Japan market are kind of stagnated right now and the primary focus for both carriers seem to be targeting secondary markets (i.e. SJC) and right-sizing existing ones (LAX). Then again, NH is going double daily to ORD, so stranger things may happen.

Finally, SK is kind of SKating on thin ice right now. Who knows what will happen with them.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17365 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4278 times:

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 13):

Yeah, especially because according to so many people, none of the additions will come on UA metal and D will run out of space

Glad you've noticed the pattern of new UA destinations by hub since the HOU decision:

ORD: 9
CLE: 2
DEN: 7
EWR: 7
IAD: 8
LAX: 3
SFO: 5

IAH: 0

But feel free to hold your breath 



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 14):

Who knows maybe they are saving IAH for last. I think this is no big deal, because some of the new routes are already served by UA at IAH.

[Edited 2013-02-05 17:06:33]


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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5162 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 15):
Who knows maybe they are saving IAH for last.

No   

Quoting nrt1011 (Reply 7):
Houston! Did I miss something and suddenly Houston turned into a world class city?

Yep, you did miss something. I'm 31 so I was too young to really understand the oil boom...but being from Houston and practicing dentistry here now...I would not live in ANY other city in this country. I am not jaded, the city is by no means perfect. There are other cities that I think are more aesthetically pleasing; but when you factor in the cost of living and overall quality of life...it can't be beat. The increase in wages that you would get moving elsewhere is lower than the percentage of increase in cost of living...I live like a king down here off of what I make! I don't think I really could say the same if I lived in any other major city...well any other major city worth mentioning.



Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3924 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 11):
1st in U.S. port volume of foreign tonnage
2nd in U.S. ports for total tonnage
7th largest U.S. container port
16th largest port in the world
Connects directly to two major railroads, 150 trucking lines and 1000 international ports

The Port of Houston in particular directly correlates with virtually every major shipping company on the planet:

COSCO - China
Hanjin - China
Maersk - Denmark
Hapag Lloyd - Germany
Hamburg Sud - Germany
P&O NedLloyd - Holland
Stolt-Nielson - Holland
Evergreen Group - Taiwan
Yang Seng - China

Other areas in which Houston has become an attractive destination would be regarding the UT Medical / MD Anderson Cancer Research Center (people around the globe come here for specialized treatments they may not be able to obtain in the home countries).

Biotech / Life Science industry is also another industry that is coming online at a greater pace than ever before. In fact, alot of these experts work in both the Life Sciences industry or are affiiliated with the UT Med Center / MD Anderson in which they come from other countries too include the EU, China, India, Pakistan, as well as some African / Caribbean nations.

Let's not forget the research and development industries for both Nano & Advanced Technologies which to some extent go hand in hand with both a thriving Energy and Aerospace & Aviation industry (ie: the Johnson Space Center, United Space Alliance and Lockheed Martin).

Then finally, their's a final element that comes to mind which would be the number of global headquarters based in Houston....23 to be exact in which Houston is 2nd in the country behind only NYC.

All well and good, but I suspect these industries are not likely to send their reps to the far flung areas of the globe that the energy sector currently does and I doubt they will shell out the mega-bucks for those seats up front. I wonder if O&G were not the dominant industry in Houston, where IAH's position would be with regards to int'l service?

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 15):
Who knows maybe they are saving IAH for last. I think this is no big deal, because some of the new routes are already served by UA at IAH.

Too easy............  

[Edited 2013-02-05 17:28:09]


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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4159 times:

Quoting nrt1011 (Reply 7):
. Houston! Did I miss something and suddenly Houston turned into a world class city?

Oh my...don't let the IAH guys read your post....   

Seriously Houston is doign really well and it as great city to do business.....not to mention one of the biggest cities in the USA



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3924 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Quoting nrt1011 (Reply 7):
Houston! Did I miss something and suddenly Houston turned into a world class city?



I would not say that Houston (nor any city in Texas) is "World Class or Cosmopolitan " but it is certainly an"International City".

[Edited 2013-02-05 17:55:19]


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User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 18):

and not to mention UA' s largest hub on a seasonal basis. And I am an IAH guy. But I dont like the whining that has taken place, especially against UA. This is supposed to a topic about CA's IAH-PEK flight now being available for booking. I bet if Smisek ever sees a.net, he would regret that horrible PR mess in Houston about the HOU expansion. Just my 2 cents.

[Edited 2013-02-05 17:54:46]


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User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 17):
I wonder if O&G were not the dominant industry in Houston, where IAH's position would be with regards to int'l service?

IMHO.....you might have a LH 748i instead of an A388, you would likely have x2 BA 777's instead of 1 or 2 - 744's, likely still have Emirates, but not so sure about QR...also wouldn't have a UA service to AMS & Lagos, Nigeria, a "Houston Express" to Luanda, Angola, TK service from IST, or a rumored SK service from Norway. You would continue to have both KL & AF and I still believe Air China would have come eventually .... IAH would still have a reasonably better line up than rival DFW.

[Edited 2013-02-05 18:08:10]

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17365 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 19):
I would not say that Houston (nor any city in Texas) is "World Class or Cosmopolitan " but it is certainly an"International City".

All those terms are pretty arbitrary and subjective, but you'd be hard pressed to find a city anywhere that has more at your fingertips, for less, than Dallas or Houston. AUS/DFW/IAH are lately at the top of any list, including the fastest growing US cities, and people aren't flocking to TX because it's a horrible place to live:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/morganbr...3/americas-fastest-growing-cities/



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineCOflyerBOS From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

I've been all over the world. Houston isn't a pretty city filled with tons of history, but it is a city filled with a diverse and growing population. Also, Houstonians tend to be very friendly, open, and accepting.

We've got a big sea port. A big airport. A big medical center. An affordable housing stock. Incredible bars and restaurants. We might not be the prettiest girl at the dance, but we're a good time at 2 a.m.!

Was still hoping for OZ to Seoul... Come on Asiana!


User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4054 times:

Quoting COflyerBOS (Reply 23):

Your patience will pay off one day  



Always look on the bright side of Life!
25 drerx7 : Somewhere between LAS and DFW in my opinion...in relation to international traffic. OH Lord Yes
26 infinit : SQ's SIN-DME-IAH flight is quite expensive with all the business traffic pushing fares up but there's no way in hell I'm going on CA.
27 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Just buy a rt to SGN/CGK/DPS/BKK and a rt on an LCC to SIN
28 TWA772LR : Now we can China off our IAH wishlist! Let the new round of speculation begin! Congratulations to IAH, Air China, and the greatest city on the planet!
29 infinit : yeap, or for US connections one easy way to fly DL or UA that fly to the states via Yeap. Or for a whole wealth of US connections, an easy way would
30 AVENSAB727 : My speculation is ICN with OZ. SCL,GYE on UA.
31 FlyingSicilian : Not to digress too much, but Houston actually has a good amount of great history, it just doesn't always embrace it very well IMO. Over the years Hou
32 infinit : Sorry for the double post earlier, poor internet connection.
33 IAH59 : Hopefully Saudia can come to IAH. Be nice to have a flight to Dammam or Riyadh.
34 FlyingSicilian : The wealthy Saudi's, and many princes who come to Houston often come on private or gov't owned aircraft. The oil companies, like Aramco, have their o
35 IAH59 : Thought it would be make good money due to lots of Saudi business in Houston dealing in the energy sector I guess not. Hopefully SAS, Asiana, or, Air
36 FlyingSicilian : Never say never but again I don't think it is a priority for them, Southwest Asia is well covered by QR and EK and soon TK (yes I know the airport is
37 IAH59 : I would pick Air New Zealand before any of those, so you have Australia & New Zealand area covered from IAH.
38 COflyerBOS : Houston certainly has some history as you mentioned. However, it isn't the type to draw in international visitors. Quite frankly, after my last visit
39 LAXdude1023 : Which is exactly why I live here (in Dallas). I'll take it a step further and say that no other cities in the US offer the amount of ammenities that
40 BA0197 : This is the question. I don't know where they are putting everything. With CA's long tunrnaround time, they must be planning to move the AC on a stan
41 AVENSAB727 : Houston is a great city, I live in Katy which is a suburb 25 minutes out. I have been around Houston and seen the large international populations. Kat
42 Post contains images IrishAyes : True, but its also different strokes for different folks. Some people tend to be more nomadic than others and need a change of pace/scenery after a f
43 AA777223 : I think you both hit the nail on the head. I grew up in Dallas and have lived in Houston for almost 5 years (whew, time flies). People in Houston are
44 nrt1011 : Congrats to Houston, good to see it as an up and coming city. Best on the planet? Hardly, no US city has ever even made the CNBC top 20 cities in the
45 Post contains images FlyingSicilian : While I wouldn't rank Houston #1 in the world I love it and it is one of my favourites having lived a lot of places; CNBC is not exactly the end all
46 Post contains images COflyerBOS : Oh, come on. Tons of Dallasites love to say "ew" about Houston. And Houstonians love to turn around and call everyone in Dallas a $30,000 millionaire.
47 FlyingSicilian : People living in Fort Worth are having heart attacks now.
48 wilco737 : Thread had drifted way off topic and will be locked.
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