N14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2314 posts, RR: 25 Reply 7, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3847 times:
Quoting kaitak (Reply 5): We won't have to wait long for the next TK order; they should be placing their order for up to 100 widebodies later this month or next.
You mean narrowbodies, correct?
Anyway, it's great to see how TK is growing. My very first flight was on a THY DC 10 in 1979 and nowadays I am using TK for my trips to China. I was in IST last week and when you look out of the window and you see all these red TK-tails... impressive!
Hey, we have been saying the same thing for the last decade, but somehow it keeps going.
It is going to be interesting to see this next 5 years, where first phase of the new Istanbul airport is completed.
TK alone is planning to grow 6-7% next 5 years.
TK planning to base some planes at SAW, more space created by moving the TAF from IST and maybe moving some junk airplanes will create more space, but that is it.
I was looking at TK schedules last night. Only a few years back there were no flights between midnight and 5am at IST. Looking at the schedule last night oh my....many many flights after midnight.
It will be an interesting 5 years ahead.
IIRC, our flight from ATL-LGA was delayed so long that we couldn't land at LGA because of curfew (that was the first time I realized that there were curfews at LGA), ended up landing at JFK. The airline shuttled everyone who wanted to, to LGA.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 19, posted (3 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2084 times:
Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 12): Quoting TK787 (Reply 3):
I am still not too clear;
TK ordered 15 + 5 options 333s few months back,
is this an addition to that, or just exercising the options
-15 firm + 2 firm + 3 options ?
-(15 firm + 5 options) + (2 firm + 3 options)?
Very good question TK787!
For me, it is also not clear. Does anyone know something about that?
From ch-aviation; Turkish Airlines (TK, Istanbul Atatürk/Yesilköy International (IST)) has finalized its order for additional A330-300s originally announced at the end of last month. It has placed firm orders with Airbus Industrie (AIB, Toulouse Blagnac (TLS)) for two additional aircraft and has secured options for three later delivery positions. THY currently already operates ten A330-300s and has fifteen more on order.
It seems that they are planning to phase out B734, B737 and cut A319 and A320 fleets from 41 to 25. A321 on the other hand goes up from 32 to 41 and B738/B739ER up from 68 to 85. There is an upgauging of the NB fleet in general. What are they planning to fly to routes with less demand? Or what will they use to open new routes?
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 24, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1190 times:
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 23): What are they planning to fly to routes with less demand? Or what will they use to open new routes?
Saturation happens and TK eventually will go down to single digits in terms of growth.
-By returning 319, 737, 320 TK might have to come up with something else for AnadoluJet.
-By not ordering more 332s, TK seems to be not interested in a 250 pax aircraft.
Like I said in another thread, there will be a gap between 321 and 787-9/350-9, 185 pax-280+pax. which will make TK less flexible I think.
I have a feeling "if it is not broke, dont fix it" will work again for TK;
319NEO with 2-class 124 seats
321NEO with 2-class 185 seats (with these two types, TK will cover 90% of its destinations)
350-900 with 3-class 314 seats
350-1000 with 3-class 350 seats; could be the future for TK;
-737MAX for the 150+ seat market
-787 for the 250+ seat market
and always a possibility of 77X and 380 additions.
There could be the idea of building a domestic plane and use it for thin routes; 100+seater turbo or RJ with the help of another nation. That might be in the longer term.
ju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6 Reply 25, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1222 times:
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 23): It seems that they are planning to phase out B734, B737 and cut A319 and A320 fleets from 41 to 25. A321 on the other hand goes up from 32 to 41 and B738/B739ER up from 68 to 85.
So will the B737-800 slowly become the backbone of their European operations while the A321 will be dispatched to routes where there is more capacity; whereas the B737-900 will fly around Africa and on longer, thinner routes?
francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3196 posts, RR: 10 Reply 28, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 633 times:
Quoting art (Reply 27): I'm curious - why announce this order now if there is a big order expected later in February/March?
This might just be a 'routine' top up order, while the upcoming announcement will cover something more substantial, like a new type, or a substantial order.
Or there won't be a big announcement after all.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...