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Snow Storm Nemo - Feb/8 - Northeast Impact  
User currently offlineMd88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1330 posts, RR: 20
Posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8835 times:

The Weather services are beginning to predict a huge snow storm hitting Friday, Feb 8th for Boston & New England. Schedule disruptions seem likely.

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User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8602 times:

The company I work for is already asking everyone how many RONs they can take from JFK and BOS. Seems like a complete closure of one or both airports is quite likely.

I was wondering, with 2+ feet of snow going to fall, what are they going to do with the grounded 787 in BOS? Will they stick it in a hangar and hope it doesn't collapse?


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3376 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8572 times:

Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 1):
I was wondering, with 2+ feet of snow going to fall, what are they going to do with the grounded 787 in BOS? Will they stick it in a hangar and hope it doesn't collapse?

Who cares? It is a plane.

It will be dug out and deiced like any other plane. Heck, it cant fly so the snow will likely melt around it before it can move


User currently offlineicelandair75w From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8537 times:

JAL will not be able to be moved to a hangar I believe, as jetBlue will have their airplanes in there, it will not fit into the AA hangar, and Delta will have their planes in their hangars. They have recently put a few concrete barriers as weights on the nose and have linked it with heavy duty cargo straps to the strut (hope they don't snap!) It will be here until at least some time in March so it'll have plenty of time to melt  

Looks like there will be alot of pre-scheduled cancellations for Friday. Looks like a few of the international big boys are awaiting the latest weather updates that will be presented tomorrow so they can evaluate the possibility of coming in to BOS.

The only concern I see is the ability of airport workers to get to work. A lot of the employees are dependent on public transportation and with the severe weather forecast, this could possibly affect the staffing for a lot of companies at the airport. Hoping it won't come to that however.


User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8396 times:

Thanks for the heads up on this. I'm scheduled to fly through LGA on Saturday, and I see now that DL is offering free flight changes in advance of the storm. I'm on hold right now waiting for the manual reissue desk to sort out my itinerary...


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User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8382 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 2):

Well who knows what could happen, moisture can get into places it shouldn't even though you think you've taped everything. It was just a thought.


User currently offlineghYHZ From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8221 times:

Quoting icelandair75w (Reply 3):
Looks like there will be alot of pre-scheduled cancellations for Friday. Looks like a few of the international big boys are awaiting the latest weather updates that will be presented tomorrow so they can evaluate the possibility of coming in to BOS.

And if they’re considering YHZ as an alternate……we’re getting the same thing overnight Friday and into Saturday.


User currently offlinejcwr56 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 475 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8165 times:

Quoting icelandair75w (Reply 3):
JAL will not be able to be moved to a hangar I believe, as jetBlue will have their airplanes in there, it will not fit into the AA hangar, and Delta will have their planes in their hangars. They have recently put a few concrete barriers as weights on the nose and have linked it with heavy duty cargo straps to the strut (hope they don't snap!) It will be here until at least some time in March so it'll have plenty of time to melt

That's just the opposite to LO's 787 sitting here at ORD. Just chalked at all wheels with no engine covers and collecting dust sitting on a remote hardstand. Although the fire department loves it for training at times.

I know B6 will ask to park a few planes on remote stands anytime there's weather out east so I expect a call today, and I do know BA has a conference call later this morning about their plans over the weekend.

Finally, I have a lady friend who is stubborn and dead-set on going to BOS today for the weekend. She refuses to believe 2' of snow is going to fall.


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8189 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8121 times:

Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 1):
I was wondering, with 2+ feet of snow going to fall,

I'm not buying it. They always over hype the first storm of the year. Even more so this time because it's our first storm in 2+ years.

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 7):
Finally, I have a lady friend who is stubborn and dead-set on going to BOS today for the weekend. She refuses to believe 2' of snow is going to fall.

I live here and i don't believe it. Heck, they named the storm "Nemo", how bad can it be? 
Logan never gets as bad as the interior because it's so exposed to wind which blows the snow away. Nevertheless, a foot of snow would still require some cleaning but nothing BOS can't handle. The good news is that the heavy snow is supposed to arrive during mid-day when the airport is quiet. Early morning operations should be unaffected, and I expect the airport will be fully functional by Saturday. Now the airlines that's a different story. We've seen in past that even when the airport stays open, the airlines chose to cancel the flights.


User currently offlineglobetrotter29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7956 times:

Blizzard Watches for southern New England with wind gusts along the coast up to 70 MPH and snow fall rates of up to 2 inches an hour. This storm is not something to take lightly.

User currently offlineMd88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1330 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7809 times:

I suspect massive pre-cancellations from the Boston/New England area as DAL, JB, AA, et al try to minimize the schedule disruption. It may not actually drop 2 feet of snow, but it won't matter. The airlines will prepare for 2 feet.

User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7663 times:
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AA begin to zero out some inventories (seats that were still available for sale) on long haul flights out of JFK on Feb 8

JFK-CDG
JFK-EZE
JFK-GIG
JFK-GRU
JFK-LHR (except for the morning flight)
EZE-JFK
GIG-JFK
GRU-JFK
LHR-JFK

No seats available... probably will be cancelled shortly.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7655 times:
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Thread topic changed to " Snow Storm Nemo - Feb/8 - Northeast Impact " to better cover the entire region now subject to a huge impact.

Storm info on Weather.com

http://www.weather.com/news/weather-winter/winter-storm-nemo-20130206

[Edited 2013-02-07 14:18:46]


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User currently offlinecsturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7524 times:

On a personal note, I hate how the Weather Channel is now naming winter storms.


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User currently offlinetraindoc From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7476 times:

The media did not over hype Hurricane Sandy. This looks like the winter equivalent. Always better to be prepared than caught by surprise. When there is a foot of new snow on the ground everything grinds to a halt.

User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4864 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7406 times:
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Looks like both Delta and American have cancelled most Europe-JFK-Europe flights for tomorrow (Friday Feb 8). Aircraft will remain in Europe all day tomorrow, and then resume flying to JFK on Saturday.

User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7332 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 12):
Thread topic changed to " Snow Storm Nemo - Feb/8 - Northeast Impact "

I suggest changing it again to "Northeast Dekana Impact Feb/8"  


User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6896 times:

0900 in the UK Friday and BA have cancelled all flights to BOS JFK EWR.
Virgin still have flight VS003 to JFK running ETA 12:30 local, however the rest of their flights to BOS JFK EWR are
now cancelled.
Departures for Saturday are all as normal, so far.

Keep safe people.   



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1843 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6779 times:
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All evening UA flights from JFK have been cancelled, all flights after 3:00PM from EWR for UA cancelled, and all flights after 1:00 PM from LGA for UA cancelled as well.


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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7402 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6706 times:

AF022 to JFK departed CDG this morning at 10:27 LT but all aother AF flights to JFK are already cancelled (AF006 / 010 / 008 ).
AF338 CDG-BOS is also cancelled.


User currently offlinekjfk527 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6690 times:

AAs last arrival at JFK is 1450 and Last scheduled departure is at 1550. The first arrival one Saturday 2/9 is scheduled for 1300 the first scheduled departure is set for 1240.

Air Berlin - Ops cxld Friday
Royal Jordanian does not operate on Fridays
Finnair - plans on operating, ETA JFK at 1600 schd departure 1745 (although this is when winds are suppose to be bad. Deicing ops can't take place with winds above 40 knots.) they may have an issue.
LAN - plans on operations thier last departure at 1500. There was talk of them ferrying equipment to MIA.
Qatar - plans on a 1415 ETA at JFK with a departure at 1615.

It's going to be real messy up here today.


User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4555 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6168 times:

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 13):
On a personal note, I hate how the Weather Channel is now naming winter storms.

Yet people keep referring to the names like sheep, when it isn't official. Win for a dying cable channel.



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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6064 times:

I'm on AA1510 tomorrow with a scheduled arr in JFK @ 1430, connecting to AY6 @ 1745.

So far, everything is showing as scheduled. Fingers crossed.


User currently offlineTW870 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6012 times:
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Deval Patrick just announced that all vehicle traffic on MA roads is ordered to cease at 1600.

Looks like last outbounds at BOS - at least on DL - are at about 1500. The 1445 ATL, for example, is going.

So it looks like they are going to have to shut the station down quick as everybody has to be out the door by not much after 1500 (the last trains are at 1530).

Good luck to everyone out there!


User currently offlineGatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 870 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5915 times:

I wonder how the NFL feels about NY for the Super Bowl now? I'm sure it will go off without a hitch next year, but this is a nice preview of what could happen when locating a game up north during winter.


Cha brro
User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 25, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6225 times:

Quoting kjfk527 (Reply 20):
Finnair - plans on operating, ETA JFK at 1600 schd departure 1745 (although this is when winds are suppose to be bad. Deicing ops can't take place with winds above 40 knots.) they may have an issue.

Looks like AY has canceled its JFK turn today.

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 24):
I wonder how the NFL feels about NY for the Super Bowl now? I'm sure it will go off without a hitch next year, but this is a nice preview of what could happen when locating a game up north during winter.

Didn't the game in Dallas a couple of years back get hammered by ice? I like watching football being played in the elements...on TV. If I was going to shell out a couple of thousand for a Super Bowl ticket, it'd be pretty annoying it if snowed heavily all game.


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7551 posts, RR: 32
Reply 26, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6152 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 25):
Didn't the game in Dallas a couple of years back get hammered by ice?

Not hammered like New England, New York or Chicago can be - but enough ice to mess with the ability of the Dallas area highways.

And having to get the sheet ice off the top of the stadium before it would fall on spectators trying to get into the stadium.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 25):
I like watching football being played in the elements...on TV. If I was going to shell out a couple of thousand for a Super Bowl ticket, it'd be pretty annoying it if snowed heavily all game.

It is definitely more fun to watch on TV. Though the funniest game I ever saw was Philly at Chicago. The weather wasn't terribly bad, but there was a fog hanging about 10 ft above the field level. The fans in the stands and the coaches in the press box couldn't see the action on the field.

Throwing a high pass or a kick was interesting because it was "Wonder where it will come down?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_Bowl_(American_football)

[Edited 2013-02-08 11:43:43]

User currently onlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1596 posts, RR: 1
Reply 27, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6450 times:
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Quoting csturdiv (Reply 13):

Me too its just sensationalist crap. Please refrain from calling this storm by a name


User currently offlineMaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 397 posts, RR: 1
Reply 28, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6390 times:

Regarding JFK, BEL501 and MSR985 both arrived at JFK this afternoon. Flightaware is showing BEL502 back to BRU departing at 1730 and MSR986 departing back to CAI at 1850. That should be interesting...

Also, does anyone know what DL at JFK is going to do with its planes on the ground? They've had a few international inbounds come in (N169DZ from MAD, N661US from NRT) that are scheduled to operate flights tomorrow. Just wondering if they will stay on their gates or if they will try to find some hangar space.


User currently offlineGatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 870 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6282 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 25):
Didn't the game in Dallas a couple of years back get hammered by ice? I like watching football being played in the elements

Yes and it certainly caused a logistical nightmare, but what is more likely in the future: an ice storm in a southern state or a snow storm in the northeast? The NFL is playing against the odds big time with next years Super Bowl. Plus Dallas Stadium is an indoor facility so weather wasn't a factor in the actual game...



Cha brro
User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12859 posts, RR: 100
Reply 30, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6262 times:
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Since I used to work at Pratt (East Hartford, CT) and have family in Boston, I wish everyone luck. At least this "Nemo" is scary enough to have preparations take place (such as closing the airport).

Quoting TW870 (Reply 23):

Deval Patrick just announced that all vehicle traffic on MA roads is ordered to cease at 1600.

Sensible. The greatest number of deaths in a storm are due to road traffic. I wouldn't want to drive the ambulance to rescue crash victims... Actually, can an ambulance deploy in 60mph winds?

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 13):
On a personal note, I hate how the Weather Channel is now naming winter storms.

Why? I'm personally amused to see Disney characters blamed for mayhem. Its more fun than 'storm of 78.' In particular for years with multiple storms. I personally prefer wunderground, so I guess the weather Channel had to do something.

Quoting traindoc (Reply 14):
When there is a foot of new snow on the ground everything grinds to a halt.

How much is now predicted? 18" still?

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 312 posts, RR: 12
Reply 31, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6130 times:

One thing I just have to opine on here - this storm is not named "Nemo" by any agency with any official capacity. There is no naming convention for winter storms, nor has there ever been one. "Nemo" is a publicity stunt by The Weather Channel designed to increase ratings, and has no basis in objective reality. The National Weather Service does not refer to this storm as Nemo, nor does it have plans to refer to future storms by name. The naming of winter storms is just the further dumbing down of American society and culture. That is all.

User currently onlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 32, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

I have been looking at the faa site about airport delays, nothing so far except PHL, low ceiling.
Really??? It has been snowing sideways in Manhattan and visibility less than 1/2 mile and no delays at LGA, JFK or EWR??
Any news?


User currently offlinedon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

Diversions from Toronto within the last hour
AC 883 to North Bay
AC 879 / AF 356 / German Cargo 3141 to Detroit
EK 241 to Washington IAD : This is going to be a long day for everyone as pilots will probably run out of duty time.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24792 posts, RR: 46
Reply 34, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5885 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 32):
no delays at LGA, JFK or EWR??

Virtually all the flights have been cancelled, so indeed there are no delays at the moment.



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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 35, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5740 times:

Quoting don (Reply 33):
Diversions from Toronto within the last hour

AC540 from SEA has also diverted to North Bay.

Mr. Harlot is stuck trying to get home from YYZ. Fortunately he didn't budge from his hotel in Kitchener this morning and is holed up there.



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User currently onlineADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1358 posts, RR: 2
Reply 36, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5484 times:

Quoting Siren (Reply 31):
One thing I just have to opine on here - this storm is not named "Nemo" by any agency with any official capacity. There is no naming convention for winter storms, nor has there ever been one. "Nemo" is a publicity stunt by The Weather Channel designed to increase ratings, and has no basis in objective reality.

When did this start? I assume this year, because some other storm had a weird word associated with it.

This is really annoying. Why are other outlets (like this website) picking this up?

How does this help the Weather Channel?

The local stations here have not been referring to it. Then again this storm only dumped about an inch of snow, so there wasn't much talk about the storm when it blew thru. (Was it even named then? When does the storm get a name - after it threatens the East Coast?)


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6863 posts, RR: 63
Reply 37, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5405 times:

Might it be that I picked a bad time and place for my first visit to the US in eleven years?

(Sitting in Boston at 6.30pm on Friday watching the snow falling and wondering about my flights back to India on Monday...)


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7551 posts, RR: 32
Reply 38, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5386 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 32):
It has been snowing sideways in Manhattan and visibility less than 1/2 mile and no delays at LGA, JFK or EWR??

JFK - Only seven arrivals between 4 and 5 pm EST - no reason for delays on that light schedule, only one arrival after 5 pm,
a few more departures, but not enough to even crowd one runways

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KJFK

LGA - No arrivials since 3:30 and only 10 departures since 4

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KLGA

EWR - Only FDX and UPS and DHL moving since 5

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KEWR

BOS - Nothing in or out since 3:30

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBOS

The pre-emptive cancellations kept a lot of people from being stuck in terminals, even though they are probably unhappy at home or their hotels right now.


User currently offlineairportugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 39, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5304 times:

Quoting ADent (Reply 36):
This is really annoying. Why are other outlets (like this website) picking this up?

Not picking on you, but why does this seem to bother people so much?

Easier to remember as a point of reference



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User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2049 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5307 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 38):
BOS - Nothing in or out since 3:30

The Governor has prohibited all vehicle traffic, except for emergency personnel, I believe that started at 4PM local.


User currently offlineTW870 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5324 times:
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Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 38):
The pre-emptive cancellations kept a lot of people from being stuck in terminals, even though they are probably unhappy at home or their hotels right now.

No kidding!

When I was a United flight attendant based at BOS in 1999, I was pass-riding home to SFO during a February snowstorm. The airport was open all day and grinding along, and people we miserable, stuck on airplanes on the apron and flopped on the floor in the terminal.

I got to the airport at 0700 and finally got on a 727-200 to IAD at 1700. That flight was already a few hours late. We boarded and then sat on the de-ice pad in near zero visibility in blowing snow for a couple of hours. Flight attendants were great to everyone and I had a few Jack Daniels since I was off duty and out of uniform. Finally made it to IAD to catch the 9PM 757 to SFO.

Bottom line was that, though I actually have fond memories of the time, most passengers were completely miserable, and it would have made a billion percent more sense to leave everyone at their hotels or at home and just re-run the operation the next day.


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8189 posts, RR: 10
Reply 42, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 5209 times:

Quoting silentbob (Reply 40):
The Governor has prohibited all vehicle traffic, except for emergency personnel, I believe that started at 4PM local.

That was a blatant over reaction in my opinion considering a lot of employers didn't let people out before 4 or 5. I was out on I-495 at 4:15pm and the roads were perfectly good to drive on. I stopped at Walgreens which was still open. The gas station next to it was still open too, and so was the supermarket next to it. There were maybe 3 inches of snow on the ground by 5pm and as of now (7pm), there is still no wind although it looks like my deck is up to about 5 inches by now. Still nothing significant by New England standards. It's early tomorrow morning when everyone will want ot get in their cars and go skiing that they'll have to worry about  

[Edited 2013-02-08 16:20:52]

User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2926 posts, RR: 4
Reply 43, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 5134 times:
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Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 27):

Just wondering, are you located in an area that is being slammed by the storm? Because I am, and I can tell you that this storm seemed to have earned the right to be named and it isn't even at its peak. I don't mean to sound like I'm being a jerk, but I think "sensationalist crap" is a bit much, especially to the large amount of people here on the island who still have half a house and no heat from Sandy.



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User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 312 posts, RR: 12
Reply 44, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 5015 times:

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 39):
Not picking on you, but why does this seem to bother people so much?

Easier to remember as a point of reference

If we want to name winter storms, let's form a governing body to do so - to draw up a list of names, a criteria by which a storm reaches the strength to be named, and so on - like as is done with hurricanes.

Right now, it's a purely arbitrary thing done by a television network for the purposes of ratings. If storms are to be named, there needs to be a universal standard by which we adhere to it. Simple.


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7551 posts, RR: 32
Reply 45, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4891 times:

Quoting Siren (Reply 44):
Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 39):Not picking on you, but why does this seem to bother people so much?

Easier to remember as a point of reference
If we want to name winter storms, let's form a governing body to do so - to draw up a list of names, a criteria by which a storm reaches the strength to be named, and so on - like as is done with hurricanes.

Rather than naming the storm for a cute character Nemo,

this storm should be named something like Grizzley, or Fizzle, if they are going to have a name.

Perhaps the main reason it bugs me is that there is no criteria for which storms are 'big' enough to have names.

For a hurricane, it is a easy distinction.

For a snowstorm - what's the criteria - TV ratings?


User currently offlinejpmagero From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4749 times:
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I have to imagine that these are "snow birds" being kept out of Nemos path (plus two more out of view): http://www.flickr.com/photos/vandarix/8456544043/



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7521 posts, RR: 28
Reply 47, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4714 times:

Lots of extra RONs in DFW this afternoon since no one is flying into the Northeast.
DL, UA/CO had numerous aircraft parked on the stand of Terminal E.
AA had numerous aircraft parked on their stands too.

Lots of extra RONs in DTW this evening as DL cancelled everything headed to the Northeast.


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3007 posts, RR: 2
Reply 48, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4709 times:

This has probably already been addressed (WAAAAY too tired to search tonight - deal with it!   ), but WHY are we now naming non-tropical storms?????? UGH.


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User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4503 times:

My dad was on his way home from GRU, only to have his JFK-BUF flight (on DL) get canceled. Luckily his DL flight GRU-JFK arrived early and he was able to hop on the first B6 JFK-BUF flight of the day.

Meanwhile, a DL flight DTW diverted to BUF due to a pressurization issue only to be grounded here due to the weather: http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs...30208/CITYANDREGION/130209199/1010

And the Sabres managed to make it to New York, so their game against the Isles tomorrow should be OK: http://buffalo.ynn.com/content/sport...the-snow--ready-to-face-islanders/

[Edited 2013-02-08 19:54:12]


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13028 posts, RR: 12
Reply 50, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

One can say the airlines are overracting to this storm by supending ops long before the storm is expected to get bad. But let us not forget the JetBlue and DTW stranding of a/c on the ground for many hours leading to laws limiting such standing of pax for not more than 3 hours with huge fines. That means airlines have cancelled flights in and out of airports in the NYC Metro area and New England States to avoid that unwanted hassle.

Almost all of the regional mass transit and major roads are closed in Long Island, downstate NY State, CT, Mass, NH and RI so one would have difficulty getting in and out an airport, including workers at them, so couldn't operate anyway. Snow totals in the NE region and Long Island is expected to be up to 3 feet (90 cm) in those areas and winds up to 60 MPH. Hopefully the snow will be ending on Saturday morning so maybe the airports will be back to some ops by Saturday evening.


User currently offlineamerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3735 posts, RR: 12
Reply 51, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4359 times:
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Hi everyone,

I hope you are all doing well despite the blizzard.

I am unfortunately stranded in the Miami area now, I am normally supposed to fly back to JFK tomorrow Feb 9th but the flight is cancelled. I called American this morning and the only thing they could do was to postpone my return flight to JFK till Feb 12th. I could have left this morning but I didn't have enough time to make it to the airport when I was on the phone with American. Too bad for me.
American wanted to charge me extra if I had flown back out of MIA. So I opted for the unfortunate solution: stay an extra few days in the Miami area.

Stay warm if you are in the North East.

Ben Soriano



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4083 posts, RR: 2
Reply 52, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

Chris from New Hampshire reporting in...

I'm sitting in the LAX Marriott right now.

Since last Friday I was in San Francisco on business...big tech convention called Photonics West that fills Moscone. I was booked on a UA 757 red-eye from SFO to EWR leaving late Thursday night. That was OK. But my connection from Newark up to Manchester, NH wasn't.

So at SFO I kindly asked the guy at the counter if I could head down to LAX and take my chances from there. My reasoning was that the whole world was trying to head east from SFO, so I'd go in an entirely different direction...south. I knew that I would be STUCK somewhere, and reasoned that LA beats Newark. He told me he could get me on UA 1445...a 757...from SFO to LAX that night but could go no further east until Saturday. I explained that I'd take care of my way until then, and he proceeded to book me on that 757 down to LAX and then a pair of United flights leaving early Saturday morning: LAX-ORD and then ORD-BOS, getting into Logan at about 4:40pm. I figured that my various permutations would be good on UA out of LAX so if what I'm booked on doesn't work then something else will.

Now my wife in southern NH is telling me that it might be a little optimistic about getting in tomorrow. If I have to be stuck another night (Saturday night), I might opt to stay right here rather than in Chicago. But it is all a function of what UA will allow me to do.


User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 848 posts, RR: 3
Reply 53, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4351 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 52):

If your looking to work your way across the country piece by piece or wanting various back ups. Ask the agent at LAX if they can book you on a back-up routing via another hub. Such as LAX-IAD-MHT. When I was still working at UAexpress here in CRP, any time we had delays, I would protect the customers connection. Then if I thought that the new connection would be an issue, I would also find additional protection, even if it was on another carrier. Especially to places such as MHT or else where in New England. See if the agent can get you something via IAD on UA with a protect via PHL on US. I hope you get an agent that is industrious in their ability to find you alternate routes. Good Luck!

JD CRP former XE



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7551 posts, RR: 32
Reply 54, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3800 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 52):
But it is all a function of what UA will allow me to do.

I've always found the airline/ airline staff willing to work with me whenever I've been caught in such a situation. You are reasonable in your requests.

To many people demand the airline put them on a plane flying into a closed airport.

Enjoy the opportunity to relax, even if it takes you a couple extra days to get home. (They aren't doing anything but shoveling snow there anyway.)


User currently offlineONT2CGI From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3773 times:

"You've heard of Finding Nemo? Well, Nemo found us!" - Gov. Andrew Cuomo.  

User currently onlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 56, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3754 times:

In all that mess, I found to my surprise TK1 landed at JFK and the return TK12 took off almost on time around 11:26pm last night.

User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7551 posts, RR: 32
Reply 57, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

At 0852 EST today the FAA is reporting

BOS - CLOSED - Estimate reopen 1500 EST
BDL - CLOSED - Estimate reopen 1200 EST
ISP - CLOSED - Estimate reopen 1859 EST


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3376 posts, RR: 5
Reply 58, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

Report from Queens, NYC

Solid foot...but roads are being cleared rapidly. JFK and LGA should be opened by midday.

Just east of here on central Long Island ISP area...they are looking at closer to 3 feet...that stretches across the sound to central CT.
That will be more of stretch for airports in those areas like BDL ISP and PVD


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7551 posts, RR: 32
Reply 59, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3651 times:

FDX has already flown into JFK this morning, HAL has an A332 on final at JFK.

UPS has already flown into EWR this morning.


User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13028 posts, RR: 12
Reply 60, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

ISP area (Suffolk County) had about 30 in. of snow, and there is still some blowing around causing drifting and need to replow. Many roads near there are shut down as is the LIRR. There are 100 abandoned vehicles on the LI Expressway.

In most of CT, there is 2 Foot (60 cm) and in some places close to or over 3 Feet (90 cm) of new snow. Nothing going to fly out of there until Sunday.

Eastern Mass. and RI got slammed, especially with the winds, getting 2 feet of snow just inland from the coast and it is still snowing and expected to do so into the afternoon. Some inland areas could see 3 Feet of snow.

LGA and JFK got about 12 inches/1 ft., EWR about 6.5 -7 inches of snow, but still windy conditions, all 3 have partially open this morning.

One problem in the region is that with this much snow, those that work at the airports cannot even get out their driveways, many roads are still not yet plowed and some mass transit is shut down or on limited schedules.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3059 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

2 Spirit flights landed/enroute LGA

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...6/history/20130209/1100Z/KDTW/KLGA

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...4/history/20130209/1151Z/KORD/KLGA



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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 62, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Reporting from MIA.

Last night I noticed my MIA-JFK flight at 1145 was finally canceled after showing on time all day. So I called AA and had them rebook me via ORF. It's the same plane MIA-ORF-JFK and it's running as scheduled. I really lucked out because that was pretty much the last option into JFK before my AY flight departs at 1745. As a bonus, ill get to add a new airport to my list: ORF. I hope everyone stranded out there gets home safe and sound and best of luck to all my friends in the Northeast who gave been enduring some nasty weather lately.


User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2926 posts, RR: 4
Reply 63, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3342 times:
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Report from Lindenhurst, NY:

Solid 2 feet here, mostly displaced thanks to the wind, but roads aren't being cleared very rapidly, and many roads are still closed. Hopefully we'll get things up thanks to the crews coming from other areas. 10,000 without power in Suffolk alone.

I'm keeping Massachusettes and RI and everybody up there in my thoughts, hopefully the snow stops soon up there.



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User currently onlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1596 posts, RR: 1
Reply 64, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3176 times:
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Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 43):
Just wondering, are you located in an area that is being slammed by the storm? Because I am, and I can tell you that this storm seemed to have earned the right to be named and it isn't even at its peak. I don't mean to sound like I'm being a jerk, but I think "sensationalist crap" is a bit much, especially to the large amount of people here on the island who still have half a house and no heat from Sandy.

Its been the policy of the Weather Channel to name winter storms now. The National Weather Service disagrees with WC policy. As for no house and no heat due to Sandy, that's caused by union bureaucrats.


User currently offlinebizjet From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

Massport is saying on their Facebook page that Logan now won't be open until 11 p.m. ET. earliest due to snow removal efforts.

Both Delta's LHR-BOS and AMS-BOS flights departed this morning and will now land at DTW and terminate there.

I'm not sure if this was the original operational plan when the aircraft left Europe, or whether they departed figuring they'd make a "game time" decision over the Atlantic.


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3059 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

As of 1:00pm, BOS airport has recorded 24.9 inches of snow, the 5th highest total in more than 100 years.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/0...levels-several-more-inches-coming/



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User currently offlineairportugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 67, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

Quoting Siren (Reply 44):

Still doesn't answer why it's so bothersome to many here...are "TV ratings" really the best we have? Kind of a lame answer.

In fact, social media (like it or not) is having a great time with it.

Seems to me like another reason to complain about something...



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User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8189 posts, RR: 10
Reply 68, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting bizjet (Reply 65):

Massport is saying on their Facebook page that Logan now won't be open until 11 p.m. ET. earliest due to snow removal efforts.

Both Delta's LHR-BOS and AMS-BOS flights departed this morning and will now land at DTW and terminate there.

I'm not sure if this was the original operational plan when the aircraft left Europe, or whether they departed figuring they'd make a "game time" decision over the Atlantic.

I have lived here for 23 years and this is the first time I have seen BOS closed for this long.
Apparently they stopped plowing last night during the height of the storm, which is very unusual for BOS.


User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 545 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 4):

I'm very grateful to have made it home today, going through ATL instead of LGA. Lots of DL jets on the ramp in both ATL and MSP today. Our scheduled 753 on MCO-ATL this morning was upgauged to a 763, and was completely filled. I assume that the upgauge was to accommodate others like me who needed to be rerouted. DL did a good job for us. I might post a short TR soon with a few more details.



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