stealth777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 359 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 19725 times:
Which 787 was this that was ferried from Texas back to Paine Field? Kinda interesting starting point as I don't recall any 787 being stuck in Ft. Worth area.
migair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1279 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 19578 times:
Today i read that Air India flew a couple of them from DEL to BOM after the officially grounding of the fleet, they argument that the maintenance base is in BOM and taxes in DEL are very expensive, so Indian Aviation Authority allow them to ferry the planes to BOM.
jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2021 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 18010 times:
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Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 8): Isn't the grounding only for rev flights, i.e. Boeing can run test flights? Or is the directive applicable to ALL flights?
Judging by the article it is all flights. They probably needed to apply for a Special Flight Permit. I would guess if only revenue flights were denied LOT would have flown theirs back to Poland so they could have it stored on their own property. I can't imagine keeping it at ORD is cheap.
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sandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 868 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17898 times:
Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 9): Judging by the article it is all flights. They probably needed to apply for a Special Flight Permit. I would guess if only revenue flights were denied LOT would have flown theirs back to Poland so they could have it stored on their own property. I can't imagine keeping it at ORD is cheap.
It's all flights, rev or otherwise. Whilst the type is grounded each flight has to be specifically approved by the FAA and each country has to specifically approve the overflight. It's a paperwork headache, but at least your dealing with only one airspace.
justloveplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 871 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17786 times:
I am still getting my head around the all fight grounding. This is a bigger restriction than during the entire 3 year test program when the risks were much higher. It is illogical to stop test flights. There are safe places to fly this thing.
blueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3124 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17786 times:
Quoting stealth777 (Reply 1): Kinda interesting starting point as I don't recall any 787 being stuck in Ft. Worth area.
Leading Edge has a painting facility at FTW where 787s assembled in CHS go to get their livery.
I think this flight has as much to do with Leading Edge wanting the aircraft out of their single bay and FTW not having a lot of spare room for an idle 787 as anything else. It's only a guess, but it is quite possible that Leading Edge wants to send another aircraft in for painting while the 787s are down. In the past, they have painted other aircraft, up to a United 747.
This 787 may end up being the test-bed aircraft, but they certainly could have found one in PAE as well, only this one needed to move.
RobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3932 posts, RR: 19 Reply 13, posted (3 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17351 times:
Quoting blueflyer (Reply 12): Leading Edge has a painting facility at FTW where 787s assembled in CHS go to get their livery.
I think this flight has as much to do with Leading Edge wanting the aircraft out of their single bay and FTW not having a lot of spare room for an idle 787 as anything else. It's only a guess, but it is quite possible that Leading Edge wants to send another aircraft in for painting while the 787s are down. In the past, they have painted other aircraft, up to a United 747.
This 787 may end up being the test-bed aircraft, but they certainly could have found one in PAE as well, only this one needed to move.
The plane was already in the CZ 787 livery when it flew there from PAE....
KC135R From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 699 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (3 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 14649 times:
Looks like more to come, the FAA has authorized 787 test flights to "collect data about the battery and electrical system performance while the aircraft is airborne."
andytb77 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 26 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13035 times:
Quoting blueflyer (Reply 12): This 787 may end up being the test-bed aircraft, but they certainly could have found one in PAE as well, only this one needed to move.
Quoting KC135R (Reply 14): Looks like more to come, the FAA has authorized 787 test flights to "collect data about the battery and electrical system performance while the aircraft is airborne."
The link above from Leeham News states that ZA005 will be the test bed aircraft.
From the post: "Boeing will resume limited 787 flight test activities soon with a flight of ZA005, the fifth flight test airplane. This activity has been approved by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration."
I think if Boeing slapped an experimental sticker on them, they could fly them how ever much they want as that sticker is saying they are no longer conforming to the issued type certificate. However, I don't know what it takes to be allowed to make it an experimental temporaly.
TheSultanOfWing From El Salvador, joined Dec 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2948 times:
Since all 8 threads on the grounding have been locked, I was hoping we could maintain this thread to get any news on the B787 checks and return to service!
Please, if you have any news........do share!
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NAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9082 posts, RR: 37 Reply 20, posted (3 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2864 times:
First test flight will be today........
"Boeing will begin flight tests of its 787 Dreamliner on Saturday morning to gather data on the battery system that has caused the in-service 787 fleet to be grounded, according to an inside source.
"The plane that will fly Saturday is Dreamliner No. 5, one of six planes filled with measuring equipment that was used in the flight tests for the 787’s original Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) certification.
"Ground tests were successfully completed on the jet Friday."
zkokq From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 289 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1772 times:
Any information available yet as to what info was gathered during the flight?
25 piedmont727: anyone got a guess on what there doing to fix the 787s and when they might be legally back up?
26 robsaw: What they are doing is still trying to positively identify the problem. Until that happens there is NO possible approved fix and NO possible legal wa