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First 787 Takes Flight Since Grounding  
User currently offlineJETnyc From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 103 posts, RR: 5
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20728 times:

The first 787-8 took off this morning 2-7-13 since the grounding of all 787s. Final stop Pane field WA. See story.

http://bitly.com/YGX3ma

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User currently offlinestealth777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20659 times:

Which 787 was this that was ferried from Texas back to Paine Field? Kinda interesting starting point as I don't recall any 787 being stuck in Ft. Worth area.

User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20635 times:

Quoting stealth777 (Reply 1):
Which 787 was this that was ferried from Texas back to Paine Field?

I think its China Southern Aircraft B-2727, not entirely sure.



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User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20512 times:

Today i read that Air India flew a couple of them from DEL to BOM after the officially grounding of the fleet, they argument that the maintenance base is in BOM and taxes in DEL are very expensive, so Indian Aviation Authority allow them to ferry the planes to BOM.

User currently offlineDTW2HYD From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1677 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20469 times:

Quoting JETnyc (Thread starter):
The first 787-8 took off this morning 2-7-13 since the grounding of all 787s

I wouldn't say this the first. AI had two revenue flights and few ferry flights after FAA grounding.


User currently offlinedc1030cf From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 20216 times:
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It's CZ's B-2727. Almost back to KPAE landing.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE382


User currently onlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 20067 times:

Hopefully the FAA will allow test flights after this -8 lands in Everett.

User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 19989 times:

What are they doing exactly to fix the problem?? new battery?? changes in the system??

I guess the battle with airlines for compensation is going to be hard. Will we every get to know the deals??


User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 19315 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 6):
Hopefully the FAA will allow test flights after this -8 lands in Everett.

Isn't the grounding only for rev flights, i.e. Boeing can run test flights? Or is the directive applicable to ALL flights?


User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2741 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 18944 times:
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Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 8):
Isn't the grounding only for rev flights, i.e. Boeing can run test flights? Or is the directive applicable to ALL flights?

Judging by the article it is all flights. They probably needed to apply for a Special Flight Permit. I would guess if only revenue flights were denied LOT would have flown theirs back to Poland so they could have it stored on their own property. I can't imagine keeping it at ORD is cheap.
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User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 18832 times:
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Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 9):
Judging by the article it is all flights. They probably needed to apply for a Special Flight Permit. I would guess if only revenue flights were denied LOT would have flown theirs back to Poland so they could have it stored on their own property. I can't imagine keeping it at ORD is cheap.

It's all flights, rev or otherwise. Whilst the type is grounded each flight has to be specifically approved by the FAA and each country has to specifically approve the overflight. It's a paperwork headache, but at least your dealing with only one airspace.

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User currently offlinejustloveplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 18720 times:

I am still getting my head around the all fight grounding. This is a bigger restriction than during the entire 3 year test program when the risks were much higher. It is illogical to stop test flights. There are safe places to fly this thing.

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 18720 times:
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Quoting stealth777 (Reply 1):
Kinda interesting starting point as I don't recall any 787 being stuck in Ft. Worth area.

Leading Edge has a painting facility at FTW where 787s assembled in CHS go to get their livery.

I think this flight has as much to do with Leading Edge wanting the aircraft out of their single bay and FTW not having a lot of spare room for an idle 787 as anything else. It's only a guess, but it is quite possible that Leading Edge wants to send another aircraft in for painting while the 787s are down. In the past, they have painted other aircraft, up to a United 747.

This 787 may end up being the test-bed aircraft, but they certainly could have found one in PAE as well, only this one needed to move.



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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 18285 times:

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 12):
Leading Edge has a painting facility at FTW where 787s assembled in CHS go to get their livery.

I think this flight has as much to do with Leading Edge wanting the aircraft out of their single bay and FTW not having a lot of spare room for an idle 787 as anything else. It's only a guess, but it is quite possible that Leading Edge wants to send another aircraft in for painting while the 787s are down. In the past, they have painted other aircraft, up to a United 747.

This 787 may end up being the test-bed aircraft, but they certainly could have found one in PAE as well, only this one needed to move.

The plane was already in the CZ 787 livery when it flew there from PAE....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8146392943/in/photostream


User currently offlineKC135R From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 725 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15583 times:

Looks like more to come, the FAA has authorized 787 test flights to "collect data about the battery and electrical system performance while the aircraft is airborne."

Link:
http://leehamnews.wordpress.com/


User currently offlineandytb77 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13969 times:

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 12):
This 787 may end up being the test-bed aircraft, but they certainly could have found one in PAE as well, only this one needed to move.
Quoting KC135R (Reply 14):
Looks like more to come, the FAA has authorized 787 test flights to "collect data about the battery and electrical system performance while the aircraft is airborne."

Link:
http://leehamnews.wordpress.com/

The link above from Leeham News states that ZA005 will be the test bed aircraft.

From the post: "Boeing will resume limited 787 flight test activities soon with a flight of ZA005, the fifth flight test airplane. This activity has been approved by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration."


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13861 times:
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Quoting RobK (Reply 13):
The plane was already in the CZ 787 livery when it flew there from PAE....

I haven't seen it since it left the paint bay, but the rumor is it came in to get a special livery as the first delivery for China Southern.



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User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12633 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 9):
Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 10):

I think if Boeing slapped an experimental sticker on them, they could fly them how ever much they want as that sticker is saying they are no longer conforming to the issued type certificate. However, I don't know what it takes to be allowed to make it an experimental temporaly.



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2966 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11256 times:

Not quite true, AI positioned their 787's between DEL and BOM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2613649.html?utm_hp_ref=business

This is the first 787 that flew in the US post-grounding



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User currently offlineTheSultanOfWing From El Salvador, joined Dec 2012, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Since all 8 threads on the grounding have been locked, I was hoping we could maintain this thread to get any news on the B787 checks and return to service!

Please, if you have any news........do share!


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User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3798 times:

First test flight will be today........

"Boeing will begin flight tests of its 787 Dreamliner on Saturday morning to gather data on the battery system that has caused the in-service 787 fleet to be grounded, according to an inside source.

"The plane that will fly Saturday is Dreamliner No. 5, one of six planes filled with measuring equipment that was used in the flight tests for the 787’s original Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) certification.

"Ground tests were successfully completed on the jet Friday."


http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...y/2020320276_787flighttestxml.html



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10332 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

A flight plan for ZA005 has been filled.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE5



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User currently offlinedtwlax From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 786 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Here is the latest information from today's flight... actually not much information!

http://news.yahoo.com/boeing-sends-7...ht-seattle-214959329--finance.html


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

Quoting dtwlax (Reply 22):
actually not much information!

You can say that again, dtwlax!  

This story does at least add four words to the available info; "the flight was uneventful."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/bu...87-completes-test-flight.html?_r=0



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User currently offlinezkokq From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

Any information available yet as to what info was gathered during the flight?

User currently offlinepiedmont727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2667 times:

anyone got a guess on what there doing to fix the 787s and when they might be legally back up?

User currently offlinerobsaw From Canada, joined Dec 2008, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Quoting piedmont727 (Reply 25):
anyone got a guess on what there doing to fix the 787s and when they might be legally back up?

What they are doing is still trying to positively identify the problem. Until that happens there is NO possible approved fix and NO possible legal way back to regular flights.


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