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SWA Plans Big Announcement  
User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 29634 times:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/n...west-airlines-plans-party-big.html

Quote:
Southwest Airlines is planning to celebrate its first year of flying from Atlanta with a big announcement.
On Feb. 12, Dallas-based Southwest Airlines Inc. (NYSE: LUV) plans to hold an event at the AirTran Corporate Center in College Park. A big announcement is anticipated that will further the airline’s presence in Atlanta.

Let the guessing begin!


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User currently offlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 883 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 29593 times:

Hmm...service to Canada? WN adding capacity to the West Coast? Service to Mexico? No more FL branding?

User currently offlinehoMsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 29401 times:

Complete system-wide code-share?


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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 29338 times:

Quoting hoMsar (Reply 2):

Complete system-wide code-share?

They have a schedule for that already so I doubt it, I also think it will be a more Atlanta/Georgia based announcement.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6418 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 29258 times:

Perhaps some type of employment announcement. Looking forward to it, in any case.


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User currently offlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1753 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 29255 times:
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Maybe they're finally ready to start the AirTran integration.

User currently offlinealggag From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 29103 times:

Georgia One?
Codeshare going live for all ATL flights?


User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2640 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 29041 times:

More expansion at DEN?

 


User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 28954 times:

Could it be Hawaii?

Filler filler filler....



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User currently offlineridgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28830 times:

They are going to start service from ATL to Trenton.

User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28770 times:

Why announce Hawaii in ATL. And why does everyone think HI is even being considered.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17008 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28771 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 8):
Could it be Hawaii?

Filler filler filler....

The announcement has something to do with ATL, so it wont be any routes to Hawaii.



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User currently offlineskycub From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28760 times:

A party? A big announcement? Something to celebrate a year in Atlanta?

I am guessing the introduction of "ValuJet One."

Sorry... I mean "Georgia One."



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22320 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28756 times:

Quoting rj777 (Reply 5):
Maybe they're finally ready to start the AirTran integration.

   

FL employees and aircraft have been coming over for nearly a year, and most of those I talk to are pretty happy with the transition.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineskycub From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28783 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 13):
FL employees and aircraft have been coming over for nearly a year, and most of those I talk to are pretty happy with the transition.

They should be! Have you seen the raises they are getting??!??!?!!!

I would be happy, too!



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User currently onlineknope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2822 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28585 times:

The just rolled out a big PR push here in MIlwaukee, including multiple market-specific commercials, promotions, etc.

The situation in ATL is decidedly different, but a big marketing push in ATL makes sense too, even if it is a slightly different focus than Milwaukee.

[Edited 2013-02-07 17:25:09]

User currently offlineAtlwest1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28584 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 13):

FL employees and aircraft have been coming over for nearly a year, and most of those I talk to are pretty happy with the transition

There are major operational work groups whos intetgrations been small at best and who do not feel anything of the luvculture. Perhaps this announcement will address that a bit?

Quoting skycub (Reply 14):
They should be! Have you seen the raises they are getting??!??!?!!!

I would be happy, too!

Money isnt everything. Quality of life matters to a lot.



ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co. or Airt
User currently offlinenotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28467 times:

You are all wrong. This is Atlanta. The big announcement is that his highness/greatness/Great Leader the "honorable great" ATL Mayor Mohammed Kasim Reed will have his likeness painted onto the tail of a WN plane to represent Georgia. He has already replaced photos of President Carter in the interteminal trains and his likeness can now be seen from every car. His posters can be seen while walking through each terminal and he can also be heard on the PA announcements at every terminal. A trip through the ATL airport reminds me of the hero worship that happens in North Korea with their great leader except it happens with the Great Leader of Atlanta. What is confusing to us that are here is that the Great Leader of Atlanta and Fulton county jurisdiction stops at Taxiway B in the North. The terminals and all Southern runways as well all terminal and hangers are in Clayton County. Strange thing is with all the windfall from ATL the Clayton schools were able to lose their accredidation. 1st school district since the 1960's to accomplish this but way to go honorable people, but this how they roll here in Georgia. Whatever great announcement from WN/ATL will be cloaked in you know what!?!?!?!

[Edited 2013-02-07 17:51:00]

User currently offlinecontrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28396 times:

Quoting ridgid727 (Reply 9):
They are going to start service from ATL to Trenton

Funny. I was just thinking about how many people want to go from ATO to Trenton.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16694 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28325 times:

Atlanta Braves sponsorship?


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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 28222 times:

Just some thoughts....
-Georgia One
-New Flights
-Flight Attendant/Pilot Base
-More info on the new ATL call center
-Concourse Renovation or New Terminal

[Edited 2013-02-07 17:51:42]


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User currently offlinenutsaboutplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 486 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 28101 times:

Your FIRST bag flies free?   


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User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 27974 times:

If I went with my gut, I would say Georgia One roll out.

Perhaps a full system wide codeshare announcement. Even though they already did the soft launch, they didn't do a big public announcement with it.



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User currently offlineytib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 559 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 27833 times:

Jimmy Carter will be put on the bag of peanuts tying in Southwest and Georgia.   

User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2503 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 27772 times:
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Quoting airliner371 (Reply 20):
-Flight Attendant/Pilot Base

I thought they already announced that about a month ago? I could be wrong.



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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 28544 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 24):
I thought they already announced that about a month ago? I could be wrong.

I remember hearing about it but I know it was not announced by WN so it must have been a rumor, maybe they will announce it on the 12th.



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User currently offlinepvd757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3406 posts, RR: 17
Reply 26, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 28503 times:

A merger with Delta?

User currently offlinejetfixr757 From Jamaica, joined Jan 2006, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 29378 times:

Changed mind on 717, sorry competition not giving you the tools to put the screws to us. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Who knows what's up the sleeves this time!
Jet


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22320 posts, RR: 20
Reply 28, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 29095 times:

Quoting Atlwest1 (Reply 16):
There are major operational work groups whos intetgrations been small at best and who do not feel anything of the luvculture.

Which groups?



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineAtlwest1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 29, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 29112 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 28):
Which groups?

Pilots and fa's and ground crew in some cities. Yes im aware atl base will open but most who live and are based here will be displaced for a while.



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User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2503 posts, RR: 4
Reply 30, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 28975 times:
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Quoting airliner371 (Reply 25):
I remember hearing about it but I know it was not announced by WN so it must have been a rumor, maybe they will announce it on the 12th.

That's true, could be that then.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22320 posts, RR: 20
Reply 31, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 29107 times:

Quoting Atlwest1 (Reply 29):
Pilots and fa's and ground crew in some cities.

The vast majority of pilots and f/as I've spoken to - both those who have transitioned and those who are still FL - seem pretty satisfied. I had a MCO crew this morning that was two thirds PMFL (both very senior; I think one had flown for J7 and one was legacy Airways), and both of the PMFL f/as told me they were surprised by how much they had embraced WN, how much WN had embraced them and how little they missed FL. I hear that sentiment a lot. Somebody asked if our 733 had Wifi, and the answer, which referenced the age of the aircraft, sounded like it came from a seasoned WN veteran. Drink orders were taken during our ground delay in MDW, just like veteran WN crews do.

It's almost impossible to tell a PMFL crew member from the service he or she provides.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlinejetfixr757 From Jamaica, joined Jan 2006, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 28298 times:

It's gonna be a coin toss to put wifi in the last 76 300's.
Jet


User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1834 posts, RR: 2
Reply 33, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 28185 times:

I think a crew base, Georgia One, or new service are all good guesses. I'm betting on at least one of them.

User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 34, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 28152 times:
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ATL will be a pilot base only at first. No F/A base yet.
To me, the 11th would seem a more likely date for a big ATL announcement, though.
Just as long as it isn't on par with F9s latest announcement!



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User currently offlineRaddek From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 28216 times:
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Warm cookies are now to be baked on board the 737-500 routes with new ovens being installed and first flight will be out of ATL.  

[Edited 2013-02-07 21:05:34]

User currently offlinehoMsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 28020 times:

Quoting Raddek (Reply 35):
Warm cookies are now to be baked on board the 737-500 routes with new ovens being installed and first flight will be out of ATL.

That would have made more sense as an MKE announcement.



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User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 27999 times:

I kind of feel like it's too soon for WN to introduce Georgia One (it'll certainly happen at some point, though). An FL retrojet, on the other hand...


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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2001 posts, RR: 3
Reply 38, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 28010 times:

Maybe the "Big Announcement" will be Southwest starting to participate in PreCheck.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 31):
The vast majority of pilots and f/as I've spoken to - both those who have transitioned and those who are still FL - seem pretty satisfied.

I had the exact same experience a few months ago with a PMFL FA who just had started with WN. She was based in MCO (IIRC) and was doing one of her first west coast overnights in TUS. Her excitement and enthusiasm was contagious. The other two PMWN FAs were great and the trip was an all around enjoyable one (especially when I gave her some DL Biscoff cookies and Jelly Bellies).

[Edited 2013-02-07 21:23:25]

User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 794 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 28008 times:

Quoting skycub (Reply 14):
They should be! Have you seen the raises they are getting??!??!?!!!

Just as an FYI -- I'm pretty sure statements like that are considered harassment and/or bullying according to the social media policy that you just signed like two weeks ago. Section 1.3 and section 3.2 might be of interest to you.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 40, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 27336 times:

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 34):
To me, the 11th would seem a more likely date for a big ATL announcement, though.

   Totally agree.

I'll guess SJU routes out of ATL. Though to me that wouldn't be a "big" announcement.



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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 26097 times:

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 34):
Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 40):

They are doing the announcement 1 year to the exact date they started ATL service... Feb 12, 2013.



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User currently offlineskycub From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 42, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 25915 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 39):

Just as an FYI -- I'm pretty sure statements like that are considered harassment and/or bullying according to the social media policy that you just signed like two weeks ago. Section 1.3 and section 3.2 might be of interest to you.

Just FYI.... I don't work for the carrier involved in this discussion. I work for one of their competitors and I make it a point to never comment on any topics involving my carrier.



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User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6347 posts, RR: 9
Reply 43, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 25489 times:

Plz not another announcement about a future "big announcement. Air Tran used to do this regularly. Has Southwest inherited that practice?

User currently offlinegeorgiaame From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 927 posts, RR: 6
Reply 44, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 24958 times:

Hostile takeover of Delta?


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 45, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 24680 times:

Inagurting service from PAE.


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 46, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 24664 times:

Herb Kelleher to become new Secretary of the the federal DOT. Wishful thinking I suppose.

WN moving all ATL ops up to CHA to avoid ATL sprawl.



Man can be taken from Alaska. Alaska can never be taken from the man.
User currently offlineswa4life From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 47, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 18249 times:

I would wager to guess it's going to be a Georgia painted plane.

User currently offlineintermodal64 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 17665 times:
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Big announcement for Atlanta . . . hmmm. Return of L-1011 Wide Ride Tristar service to the West Coast?

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 49, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 17548 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 41):
They are doing the announcement 1 year to the exact date they started ATL service... Feb 12, 2013.

Hmmm... true, but the 11th is a major company event in ATL where announcements are generally made.



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User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 16383 times:

WN has opened a PayPal account. 

User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 51, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 16262 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 41):
They are doing the announcement 1 year to the exact date they started ATL service... Feb 12, 2013.

Ironically the WN marketing team missed an opportunity by not waiting two more days. February 14 would have been the perfect day to announce LUV in the ATL.



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User currently offlineodwyerpw From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 797 posts, RR: 2
Reply 52, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 15852 times:
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Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 51):
WN has opened a PayPal account.

Best Response yet!!

I think it will be Georgia One 737-800.

Peter



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User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15568 times:

Quoting odwyerpw (Reply 53):
I think it will be Georgia One 737-800.

Now the next question: image of a peach, or a can of Coke?


User currently offlinenotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 54, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14838 times:

See my reply number 17. Southwest's Georgia One will be His Majesty Atlanta Mayor Mohammed Kasim Reed on one side of the tail and the old Confederate flag on the other. So unfortunate but this is the life of many here in Georgia. Both make me kringe greatly. Nobody ever says it, but very unfortunately the Civil War rages on in Georgia. I hope that WN is able to paint its plane with honesty and truth in recognizing Georgia.

User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14781 times:

Probably just announcing what they plan on doing with ATL once WN/FL are fully integrated as one airline.

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 54):
Now the next question: image of a peach, or a can of Coke?

Off topic, but an interesting fact, Georgia is 3rd in the U.S. in Peach production, behind California and South Carolina.


User currently offlinehoMsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14671 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 56):
Off topic, but an interesting fact, Georgia is 3rd in the U.S. in Peach production, behind California and South Carolina.

But they are 1st in the U.S. in streets and locations named Peachtree.



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User currently offlinewnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14688 times:

I"M guessing FULL WN/FL code share, New International call center and possible some new flying from ATL..Wnfg 


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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5231 posts, RR: 14
Reply 58, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14530 times:

Can anyone with WN clarify the situation as it currently exists regarding the criteria used to paint an a/c with a state flag? I seem to remember that WN (in the past anyway) said that only when WN reached a certain level or percentage of a states overall pax traffic would they create a special livery honoring the state. Maybe that's not the case anymore but if it is, has WN reached such a level in Georgia? (Does FL count?)

An answer to this question might help determine if "Georgia 1" might be the subject matter of Tuesday's announcement.

I personally predict some new service/route announcements, with a cerrtain one very high on my wish list...  

bb


User currently offlineswatpamike From United States of America, joined May 2004, 581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 14299 times:

new plane alabama one

ROLL TIDE

[Edited 2013-02-08 17:40:40]

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2968 posts, RR: 2
Reply 60, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 14072 times:

Sweet Jesus.... Just something else to give ATL a big(ger) head. Looking for anti-nausea medicine!!


Finally made it to an airline mecca!
User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 61, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13958 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 51):
Ironically the WN marketing team missed an opportunity by not waiting two more days. February 14 would have been the perfect day to announce LUV in the ATL.

This has nothing to do with WN's marketing team. The annual employee meetings are taking place and ATL's it the day before.

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 57):

I"M guessing FULL WN/FL code share, New International call center and possible some new flying from ATL..Wnfg 

Why would they announce a new international call center? The ATL center is likely going to be the only one doing int'l for now anyway.

People are missing the point. Based on the even the day before, this is something that is going to be FOR the people of Georgia and the Atlanta base. It screams Georgia One through and through, but I wouldn't be shocked if something comes out of left field we aren't expecting.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5420 posts, RR: 13
Reply 62, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13838 times:

Quoting pvd757 (Reply 26):

No thank you!

Quoting georgiaame (Reply 44):

Bite your tongue!

Quoting intermodal64 (Reply 48):

Sounds like something for the alternative aviation history thread which was several months back.

Taking over the recently built hanger/maintenance facilities that had FL on it changing to official WN. Just a guess. Otherwise, I would not take any other guesses.

[Edited 2013-02-08 19:22:13]


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User currently offlineCairnterriAIR From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 13710 times:

They're going to paint a 737-800 bright orange, add the numbers "01" on the tail, paint a confederate flag on top of the fuselage and install flight attendant call buttons that plat the first few notes of "DIXIE". Try to visualize!

User currently offlinewnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13518 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 61):

I did say it was just a Guess.  
But truthfully I think it's a FULL Code share giving FL ATL customers the freedom connect to the WN network.
I think the Georgia one plane could happen but not just yet.
I also think the back lash WN is taking by not Having Bags Fly Free on FL. Maybe it's freeing Atlanta from BAG fee's?
WN loves having porches in markets where they feel the need to connect to the new market on a personal level.
wnfg

        



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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 65, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 13098 times:

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 64):
WN loves having porches in markets where they feel the need to connect to the new market on a personal level.

They already have one - Southwest Porch at Park Tavern.

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 64):
I also think the back lash WN is taking by not Having Bags Fly Free on FL. Maybe it's freeing Atlanta from BAG fee's?

They just raised FL bag fees so I wouldn't think so.

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 64):
But truthfully I think it's a FULL Code share giving FL ATL customers the freedom connect to the WN network.

The only reason I doubt this is because they have a timeline to do this already, full codeshare in April with slow increases prior, so unless they think they are ready already I don't know that this will happen.



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User currently offlinecornutt From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 338 posts, RR: 1
Reply 66, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12842 times:

Dropping more FL destinations?

No, I'm not bitter or anything.  


User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 975 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12831 times:

Just heard that, in fulfillment of its long-held desires, WN will finally be starting operations at FTY and moving its ATL flights there to avoid competing with DL.

User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 68, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12701 times:

As WAG's go. On the heels of the AA/US merger; because US has a fairly significant footprint in PHX; provided the DOJ approves the AA/US M&A. WN closes the PHX focus city and moves the majority of those ops to DEN or HQ moves from DAL to ATL. If US keeps PHX then belay my last.


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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3385 posts, RR: 3
Reply 69, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12603 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 10):
And why does everyone think HI is even being considered.

So WN went through the massive expense to obtain ETOPS certification for what purpose then, exactly?



PHX based
User currently offlinealggag From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12533 times:

re: timetable in place for codeshare in April...

Does anybody know if this is for actual codeshare flying to commence in April or for bookings to start in April? Perhaps the announcement is to publically launch codeshare booking with actual flights to begin in April? Of course, I am referring to full system codeshare.
I'm not too sure now about Georgia One... wouldn't that likely happen at the actual airport complete with the aircraft for photo ops?

[Edited 2013-02-09 09:33:45]

User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 71, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12412 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 69):
So WN went through the massive expense to obtain ETOPS certification for what purpose then, exactly?

It seems to me any type of Hawaii of service would be announced from DAL not ATL from a left coast gateway I don't think the 737, 738.739 have the capability to fly it non-stop from ATL to the islands.

If I may take a stab at your ETOPS question. It is my understanding WN also has Required Navigation Performance RNP/GPS technology installed on some 400 or more of their airframes and has trained or certified the flight decks to use it. Although RNP can be used in SFO,DCA and PSP for three it was prototyped in Juneau (JNU) Alaska and WN doesn't fly to Alaska either.

[Edited 2013-02-09 10:11:57]


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 72, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12201 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 71):
Although RNP can be used in SFO,DCA and PSP for three it was prototyped in Juneau (JNU) Alaska and WN doesn't fly to Alaska either.

IIRC, AS helped develop RNP, which is why it was tested in JNU.



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User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 73, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 12081 times:

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 64):
But truthfully I think it's a FULL Code share giving FL ATL customers the freedom connect to the WN network.
I think the Georgia one plane could happen but not just yet.

Eh, we may both be wrong...who knows.

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 64):
I also think the back lash WN is taking by not Having Bags Fly Free on FL. Maybe it's freeing Atlanta from BAG fee's?

Then book a codeshare flight on WN instead. FL bag fees went up, so they aren't going anywhere there.

Quoting alggag (Reply 70):
Does anybody know if this is for actual codeshare flying to commence in April or for bookings to start in April? Perhaps the announcement is to publically launch codeshare booking with actual flights to begin in April? Of course, I am referring to full system codeshare.

Actual code share is already going in select markets as part of a soft launch. You can book them today if you want. No public announcement since this is to just make sure there aren't any major issues until full deployment happens. It very well could be the code share, but this seems pretty ATL-centric.

Quoting alggag (Reply 70):
I'm not too sure now about Georgia One... wouldn't that likely happen at the actual airport complete with the aircraft for photo ops?

Good point.



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User currently offlineUPNYGuy From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 12044 times:

LUV is purchasing A380 to send MDW-JHW   

User currently offlineolddominion727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11732 times:

GA ONE... a huge Peach with... with integration of WN System-wide in 2014, until then it will be codeshares.

User currently offlinecornutt From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 338 posts, RR: 1
Reply 76, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11669 times:

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 67):
Just heard that, in fulfillment of its long-held desires, WN will finally be starting operations at FTY and moving its ATL flights there to avoid competing with DL.

That was the secret part of the Wright Amendment that was revealed by the end of the Mayan calendar.


User currently offlinewnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11638 times:

I'm still betting on the Code share being announced full for sale linking Atlanta to the whole WN network.
I also think some new markets could be added also.
Someone mention on another web page with the seasonal cut backs and markets being axed frees up 4 to 6 planes.
Hope Tuesday brings good news..
Wnfg  



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3385 posts, RR: 3
Reply 78, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10961 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 71):
It seems to me any type of Hawaii of service would be announced from DAL not ATL from a left coast gateway I don't think the 737, 738.739 have the capability to fly it non-stop from ATL to the islands.

I wasn't implying that WN intended to start service from ATL to Hawaii. However, the post I replied to sounded like more of a blanket statement questioning why someone would think Hawaii was on the table for WN period. I gotta believe WN went through the trouble of obtaining ETOPS certification for a valid reason and WN's interest in Hawaii seems to be the industry's worst kept secret at the moment.



PHX based
User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 79, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10812 times:

Quoting olddominion727 (Reply 75):
GA ONE... a huge Peach with...

Luv is all about nuts and Georgia is home to a well known peanut farmer and ex- president. How about Peanut One.



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User currently offlinegr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1592 posts, RR: 11
Reply 80, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10395 times:

Haven't all the state planes featured designs based on that state's flag? Georgia's is pretty boring. At least they finally got rid of the Confederate battle flag.

User currently offlineiad51fl From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 349 posts, RR: 3
Reply 81, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10203 times:

US/AA meeting monday AND WN announcement Tuesday....

A merge of US/AA/WN....... has to be....  

I love A.net speculation...

CE

[Edited 2013-02-10 17:56:48]


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15502 posts, RR: 26
Reply 82, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10051 times:

Quoting gr8slvrflt (Reply 80):
Georgia's is pretty boring.

So was Illinois' flag, but that didn't stop them. Southwest just blew it up.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 83, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 9776 times:

Quoting CairnterriAIR (Reply 63):
They're going to paint a 737-800 bright orange, add the numbers "01" on the tail, paint a confederate flag on top of the fuselage and install flight attendant call buttons that plat the first few notes of "DIXIE". Try to visualize!

Well, those Dukes have finally done it. They grew some wings.

They're now free to move about the country.

For kicks, they should have the pilots get on the PA and yell "YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAA!" as they're taking off with Dixie playing.  



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User currently offlineMikeE07 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 84, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9655 times:

Local news out of the florence/myrtle beach area said that MYR will be making a big announcement tomorrow about " one of America's largest airlines" to begin making daily flights there.. Hmmmmmm.......   

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 85, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9451 times:

They say MYR officials were to make the new airline announcement last Friday but the airline in question cancelled it to coincide with another "big announcement" tomorrow.


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 794 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9385 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 85):

WestJet did announce new service there, didn't they?



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User currently offline0NEWAIR0 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 934 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 9074 times:

Quoting gr8slvrflt (Reply 80):
At least they finally got rid of the Confederate battle flag.

I'd just like to point out the fact that the current Georgia flag is very similar to the first national flag of the Confederacy. Actually, it is the first national flag of the Confederacy with the state emblem added.

The whole Georgia flag battle that went down at the change of the centruy just proves that the average person doesn't actually know anything about history... they just follow the bandwagon and chant as they're told.



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User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2503 posts, RR: 4
Reply 88, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8646 times:
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Quoting MikeE07 (Reply 84):
Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 85):

There have been rumors circulating through the MYR area about WN for a few months now. Supposedly the Airport Officials had been meeting with WN and working with them to get them to come to MYR.



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User currently offlineMikeE07 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8334 times:

Well, as of the 12:00 local news, WestJet is coming to MYR. Do you suppose that is the only "big announcement"? Im not sure on this one, after all, WN does serve CHS, which is about 80 miles or less to the south of Myrtle Beach. I, would for one, love to see WN come to MYR though.

User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 90, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8144 times:

Quoting MikeE07 (Reply 89):
Well, as of the 12:00 local news, WestJet is coming to MYR. Do you suppose that is the only "big announcement"? Im not sure on this one, after all, WN does serve CHS, which is about 80 miles or less to the south of Myrtle Beach. I, would for one, love to see WN come to MYR though.

I would imagine that would be the announcement for MYR. I don't see WN going to MYR anytime soon until all the FL cities are integrated.



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 91, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8039 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 78):
I gotta believe WN went through the trouble of obtaining ETOPS certification for a valid reason and WN's interest in Hawaii seems to be the industry's worst kept secret at the moment.



Some of the Caribbean Islands would require etops as would Central America if they dodn't want to fly only over land. I believe it is only airlines.net that has the fascination with WN and Hawaii if you ask me.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 92, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8130 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 91):
Some of the Caribbean Islands would require etops as would Central America if they dodn't want to fly only over land. I believe it is only airlines.net that has the fascination with WN and Hawaii if you ask me.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...uthwest-airlines-will-be-rea.html/

Based on past statements from the company, it has always been that the company is developing the ability to fly to Hawaii, Alaska, Caribbean, and other international markets that the 738 can reach. So no, it isn't just A.net. The company itself is working to make is possible, but hasn't committed yet to actually operating any specific route.

My opinion is that Hawaii will be nice and all. It'll definitely suck a lot of Rapid Rewards out of the system once it launches. However, with so much competition is it really needed. Sure WN loyal pax will take WN instead of other carriers they are forced to now, but will they be able to pull additional pax that aren't WN loyal.



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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 794 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7754 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 92):
My opinion is that Hawaii will be nice and all. It'll definitely suck a lot of Rapid Rewards out of the system once it launches. However, with so much competition is it really needed. Sure WN loyal pax will take WN instead of other carriers they are forced to now, but will they be able to pull additional pax that aren't WN loyal.

and those business passengers send their regular business to other carriers to gain the miles/points to have the ability to use them to go to places like Hawaii, so yes, I'd say it's necessary.



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User currently offlinebarney captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 889 posts, RR: 13
Reply 94, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7607 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 78):
I gotta believe WN went through the trouble of obtaining ETOPS certification for a valid reason and WN's interest in Hawaii seems to be the industry's worst kept secret at the moment.

Point of clarity:

SWA does not have nor are they actively seeking ETOP's certification. They have some -800's that were delivered "ETOP's ready/configured", but have not undertaken the truly difficult and expensive process of getting the certification. The crews have not been trained and even the rafts have been removed until required.



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User currently offlineluv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 95, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7523 times:

Point of clarity:

SWA does not have nor are they actively seeking ETOP's certification. They have some -800's that were delivered "ETOP's ready/configured", but have not undertaken the truly difficult and expensive process of getting the certification. The crews have not been trained and even the rafts have been removed until required.


That can't be right 9 out of 10 posters on this site have said that WN is dying to fly to Hawaii.



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User currently offlineskycub From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 96, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7424 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 95):
That can't be right 9 out of 10 posters on this site have said that WN is dying to fly to Hawaii.

Yeah... but I bet zero out of the several dozen posters on this thread work in Southwest's schedule planning department. LOL.



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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 794 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7349 times:

Quoting barney captain (Reply 94):
Point of clarity:

SWA does not have nor are they actively seeking ETOP's certification. They have some -800's that were delivered "ETOP's ready/configured", but have not undertaken the truly difficult and expensive process of getting the certification. The crews have not been trained and even the rafts have been removed until required.

Then I'd love to be the ETOPS program manager that was hired last year and is getting paid to sit at a desk and do nothing.



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User currently offlinebarney captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 889 posts, RR: 13
Reply 98, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7274 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 97):
Then I'd love to be the ETOPS program manager that was hired last year and is getting paid to sit at a desk and do nothing.

Having a Program Manager and "actively seeking certification" are two very different things. I'm not saying never, but no time soon. Like I said, the crews have not been trained, and in fact, hasn't even been scheduled. That in itself will take considerable time. Over water/Class II and international is currently under way - but not ETOP's

[Edited 2013-02-11 13:54:02]

[Edited 2013-02-11 13:58:28]


...from the Banana Republic....
User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 794 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

Quoting barney captain (Reply 98):
Having a Program Manager and "actively seeking certification" are two very different things. I

So since pilots aren't being trained at the moment, the company isn't "actively seeking certification".   

The flight attendants are currently going through raft training along with international.

[Edited 2013-02-11 14:23:38]


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User currently offlinebarney captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 889 posts, RR: 13
Reply 100, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6905 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 99):
So since pilots aren't being trained at the moment, the company isn't "actively seeking certification".   

Correct.

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 99):
The flight attendants are currently going through raft training along with international.

Correct. F/A training is for over water/international - ETOP's is completely different. I've been through the Class II/international training - ETOP's was not covered. At all.

I'll say it again, I'm not saying never, I'm saying no time soon.



...from the Banana Republic....
User currently offlinecv880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1100 posts, RR: 2
Reply 101, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6904 times:

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 95):
Point of clarity:

SWA does not have nor are they actively seeking ETOP's certification. They have some -800's that were delivered "ETOP's ready/configured", but have not undertaken the truly difficult and expensive process of getting the certification. The crews have not been trained and even the rafts have been removed until required.


That can't be right 9 out of 10 posters on this site have said that WN is dying to fly to Hawaii.

If that be the case, just fly to Hawaii(and the Pacific) the old fashioned way. Purchase HA. Would be fun to watch the response from AA/DL/UA.


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 102, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7107 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 92):
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...uthwest-airlines-will-be-rea.html/

"Kelly said the carrier is working to develop the capability to fly to Hawaii, Alaska, the Caribbean and other near international markets."

If its not ETOPS and Hawaii. WN technically flies to the Caribbean under the M&A with FL which leaves Alaska. Service between ATL-ANC perhaps. With that said I don't know why that would be a "big" announcement.

I'm beginnning to think it may have more to do with a ATL terminal realignment. Possibly WN operating their own terminal as the anchor air carrier.



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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 103, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6765 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 102):
I'm beginnning to think it may have more to do with a ATL terminal realignment. Possibly WN operating their own terminal as the anchor air carrier.

The more I think the more I agree. We will see tomorrow though.



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User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 975 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 103):
I'm beginnning to think it may have more to do with a ATL terminal realignment. Possibly WN operating their own terminal as the anchor air carrier.

The more I think the more I agree. We will see tomorrow though.

Hadn't there been talk of DL giving up its D gates to WN in exchange for the remaining C gates at ATL?

(And yes, I'm aware of the physical space limitations of the DL D gates.)

[Edited 2013-02-11 16:08:10]

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22320 posts, RR: 20
Reply 105, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6417 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 93):
and those business passengers send their regular business to other carriers to gain the miles/points to have the ability to use them to go to places like Hawaii, so yes, I'd say it's necessary.

Source?

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 91):
Some of the Caribbean Islands would require etops as would Central America if they dodn't want to fly only over land.

I have a hard time coming up with more than 1 or 2 Caribbean routes that would require ETOPS, and I can't think of any Central America routes. Even with the Caribbean routes (stuff like BOS-SJU), it's doable without ETOPS and, in fact, I think the current routings do not require ETOPS.



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User currently offlineuncgso From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5917 times:

thought it might be new service to GSO ... as there was a press conference today (in Greensboro) ...
but that seems to be F9 launching GSO-DEN fwiw ...

still not sure why WN isnt in GSO ... the old "because they are in RDU" excuse is kinda old now ... since they are in CHS, GSP, CLT, RDU, ORF, etc .... and DL & US serve many more airports than that in the Carolinas and Virginia ...

plus doesnt WN do maintenance on some of their planes at GSO (TIMCO)?


User currently offlineRmTrice From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 107, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5378 times:

Perhaps a few -800s will be delivered in the AirTran livery and SWA will announce ATL-CCS starting this fall? lol   

Any indications on when this announcement will be made? It's about 8:40am CT at HDQ and nobody has heard anything yet.


User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5370 times:

Quoting uncgso (Reply 106):
still not sure why WN isnt in GSO


Given the population of the Greensboro – Winston-Salem – High Point CSA at 1.6M, and every city over 80 miles from RDU, I suspect it could launch GSO with GSO-BWI easily. GSO-MDW or westbound routes might dilute RDU-MDW but the short-haul BWI route wouldn't adversely affect RDU or CLT at all. WN launches PWM with just 3x PWM-BWI, so that type offering might be replicated.

Also suspect BWI-SYR could be easily done. If B6, AA and all other legacies are at SYR, Southwest could be there and the BWI route would be short-haul.

Some other less likely but possible would be BWI-BTV, BWI-SAV (just over 500 miles), BWI-PBG (to intercept Canadians)/gateway to Montreal, and re-evaluation of TYS for BWI-TYS (at 465 miles). Outside of those, I'm unsure what other short hauls BWI would ever get from WN. One problem might be that WN seems to prefer launching smaller markets with short-haul routes at 300 miles to a hub, over the high 400s, let alone 500-600.

I'm more surprised by the delay of CVG service but instead the necessity to transition markets like FNT.

[Edited 2013-02-12 06:54:41]

User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5258 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 90):
I would imagine that would be the announcement for MYR. I don't see WN going to MYR anytime soon until all the FL cities are integrated.

With NK now servicing BWI-MYR, I don't see WN needing/wanting to go to MYR. Anyways some might be flying both NK MYR-BWI and WN out of BWI, to reach the final destination.


User currently offlineRmTrice From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Apparently, the big announcement is the opening of a pilot base and a People Department

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/n...west-opens-atlanta-pilot-base.html


User currently offlineDLX737200 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1891 posts, RR: 20
Reply 111, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4890 times:

Quoting RmTrice (Reply 110):
Apparently, the big announcement is the opening of a pilot base and a People Department

Yawn! Nothing to see here...



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User currently offlineRmTrice From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4858 times:

And to think I was expecting some type of ATL-Caribbean network announced... lol Guess I should know better

User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2808 posts, RR: 3
Reply 113, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4742 times:

Quoting notdownnlocked (Reply 54):
Nobody ever says it, but very unfortunately the Civil War rages on in Georgia.

Nobody ever says it because it isn't true, and the Civil War doesn't rage on in Georgia. It only rages on in your mind.

Back to the topic: Can any LUVers explain what the benefit of having a People Department in ATL is? Are there People Departments in other cities (BWI, MDW etc)?


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 114, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4696 times:

Quoting RmTrice (Reply 112):
And to think I was expecting some type of ATL-Caribbean network announced

Rio as we get closer to 2016



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 115, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

Quoting RmTrice (Reply 110):

Wait, didn't we already know about a pilot base from a few months ago? And how is a new People Department a "big announcement"?

Quoting DLX737200 (Reply 111):

  



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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 794 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 113):
Can any LUVers explain what the benefit of having a People Department in ATL is?

There are People Departments in 7 different cities now. It's where job fairs, etc are done.

[Edited 2013-02-12 09:05:22]


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User currently onlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 117, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4453 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 114):
Quoting RmTrice (Reply 112):
And to think I was expecting some type of ATL-Caribbean network announced

Rio as we get closer to 2016

Yup SEA-MDW-ATL-CUN-LIM-EZE-GIG

Same plane service.... "Through passengers please remain in your seats so we can count."

I wasn't thinking about ATL-Caribbean service being announced but I did have money on Georgia One... surprising WN hasn't rolled that out yet.



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User currently offlineRmTrice From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 118, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 115):
Wait, didn't we already know about a pilot base from a few months ago? And how is a new People Department a "big announcement"?

Exactly my point. The media had this pegged as "big announcement" and WN said it was a big announcement that would "further the airline's presence in Atlanta." I guess, technically, this fits that description. Doesn't seem like too big of a deal to me. It's great ATL gets a People Department (that's a sign ATL is here to stay, one would assume), but I'm pretty sure we all knew a pilot base was coming, if not already announced. I'm not so sure "big announcement" was an appropriate phrase to describe this event.

[Edited 2013-02-12 09:11:43]

User currently offlinewnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4156 times:

                                               
really that's it? ...    wnfg



my post are my opinion only and not those of southwest airlines and or airtran airlines.
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7354 posts, RR: 28
Reply 120, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3873 times:

Almost as good as AA's big announcement at DFW which resulted in some performance of a dance troupe.

Announcements about pending Big Announcements are almost always an epic fail.

Most truly big announcements have enough rumor spinning and leaks, the big announcement really becomes more procedural than anything. These announcements of big announcements are usually just hype to publicize announcements that aren't even big enough to be news of their own.


User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 121, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 120):
Announcements about pending Big Announcements are almost always an epic fail.

Mmhmm. Most on here feed right into it too. Works like a charm.  



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User currently offlinewnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3634 times:

Big announcement came from Virgin America doing SFO-ANC instead of having a plane sit idle it's running up to a new market.
With a pending system wide code share coming WN has FL 737 birds sitting Idle over night in LAS,SFO,LAX and DEN.
WN could easily send 2 or 3 planes up to ANC add a new city and much need feed to the whole network.
But instead like Hawaii and this code share just limp along and yet again miss more opportunities.
wnfg 



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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 123, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

This may not be massive, breaking news but it is still good news...

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 122):

You have way to high expectations. They have a codeshare plan, we all know the codeshare plan... each month slowly add more until full rollout in April. That is so they don't have any technical difficulties. Patience... would you rather it all come out at once and have a bunch of problems? They also have no plans to grow right now until they reach the 15% goal. This is all information we know but every time there is a schedule release or announcement you bring this up again and again, you are just going to keep getting disappointed because we know it won't happen.

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 122):

Big announcement came from Virgin America doing SFO-ANC instead of having a plane sit idle it's running up to a new market.

So now you want WN to be like VX? They are not exactly an airline you want to copy...

[Edited 2013-02-12 11:56:28]


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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 122):
With a pending system wide code share coming WN has FL 737 birds sitting Idle over night in LAS,SFO,LAX and DEN.

I dont understand WN right now. They seem to be the lease efficient airline now with this merger. This long after the merger you still cant book a airtran to southwest city reservation.....crazy


User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 125, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3460 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 124):
This long after the merger you still cant book a airtran to southwest city reservation.....crazy

Yes you can, it is slowly being implemented and will continue to grow.



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2891 posts, RR: 5
Reply 126, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Quoting RmTrice (Reply 110):
Apparently, the big announcement is the opening of a pilot base and a People Department
Quoting RmTrice (Reply 118):
Doesn't seem like too big of a deal to me.
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 120):
Announcements about pending Big Announcements are almost always an epic fail

                          

Which is why when I read "big announcement" in a thread title I sigh instead of giggling with delight



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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 127, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

Here is the official press release:
http://swamedia.com/releases/southwe...d-s-busiest-airport-in-august-2013

BTW.. the training facilities will be for Georgia based employees only.

[Edited 2013-02-12 12:53:46]


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User currently offlinewnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

I was Hoping the ATL announcement was another faze of the code share adding more markets to add more to the ROIC.
Ya for this arm chair CEO/network planner my expectations are a little high   .
Adding a small Pilot base and NOT also adding a small FA base will only cause another major upset on employee moral.
By adding a WN FA base to ATL it can be shared with the already FL FA base not only helps ease this merger.
IT will also SAVE Millions on Hotel Cost in ATL.
GK asked everyone to try and save a xtra $5 a day to help reach the ROIC.
Yet they waste Money on Having hotels for crew when you can just slowly grow the ATL Base as they merge.

I guess I don't see the big picture on that one.
wnfg   



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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 9
Reply 129, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 128):
By adding a WN FA base to ATL it can be shared with the already FL FA base not only helps ease this merger.
IT will also SAVE Millions on Hotel Cost in ATL.

It's not that simple... not as simple as opening a pilot base that is.

The FA's have a unique seniority situation with ATL. WN FA's received a 2.5yr bump n seniority against any FL FA who crosses over EXCEPT for in ATL. They are working on the technology needed to make that seniority adjustment automatically every time someone transfers in or out since WN allows base-to-base movement every month, even when there aren't FA's being hired.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 130, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

A complete shutdown of ATL or even the whole airline , thus laying off every half assed employee of theirs?    Just kidding y'all, Im playing Devils Advocate here...


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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4741 posts, RR: 26
Reply 131, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2421 times:
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Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 130):
A complete shutdown of ATL or even the whole airline , thus laying off every half assed employee of theirs? Just kidding y'all, Im playing Devils Advocate here...


As someone who has stated you wish ill will on ALL Southwest employees, yeah I'm sure you're just kidding.  
Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 121):
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 120):
Announcements about pending Big Announcements are almost always an epic fail.

Mmhmm. Most on here feed right into it too. Works like a charm.


   Never fails around here.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 132, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Quoting RmTrice (Reply 110):
Apparently, the big announcement is the opening of a pilot base and a People Department

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/n....html

[crickets chirping]

Yup, nothing to see here in deed...

slow news day? Or month, or several months?



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