Moderators From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 459 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3002 times:
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Dear All,
in order to consolidate the AA/US merger threads (and after input from users, which we highly appreciate) the moderators decided to start separate threads each discussing one aspect of the AA/US merger and its impact to both the industry and the two airlines involved.
Please continue discussing this hot news in their individual official threads:
RmTrice From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 24 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2712 times:
It's a pretty straightforward situation when it comes to HDQ, isnt it? All functions begin to transition to Fort Worth except for a few exceptions (res centers, etc..)
Are there any AA HDQ employees here who can comment on whether or not AA will have to expand their campus just south of DFW? Or perhaps consolidating some headquarters functions will be sufficient?
commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10188 posts, RR: 63 Reply 3, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2636 times:
Quoting HPRamper (Reply 2): While we know what will happen with HQ, what about SOC?
It is hard to imagine the SOC not being in Ft Worth. Not only is it more efficient for the SOC and the headquarters to be in one place, but AA's SOC is Ft Worth is huge, and almost certainly far larger than the US facility (in PIT, right?).
simairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 813 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2455 times:
Quoting commavia (Reply 3): AA's SOC is Ft Worth is huge, and almost certainly far larger than the US facility (in PIT, right?).
Correct, US Airways' is in PIT. A small but nice facility, kept there post-America West merger thanks to some tax incentives.
On that note, are there terms that would have to be paid to get out from that deal?
apodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3634 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2324 times:
Wasn't the OCC in PIT just built a couple of years ago? Not sure who paid for the building, but I think US may own the building themselves and they built it from the ground up.
I don't see the OCC not being in DFW though. And there will be a lot of job openings because most of the guys in PIT are pretty senior and I don't think they would move to DFW.
PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4938 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
I just wonder what's going to happen here. Will there be a bunch of empty spaces and lost jobs?
I have a feeling this merger isn't going to go over so well for grandma Jan here in Arizona as well as other people who have some sort of stake in the business operations here.
toxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 938 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2089 times:
Somewhere, I read that Parker said the HQ would be Fort Worth. But I think it was a DFW paper.
tooluther From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 285 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1943 times:
Quoting apodino (Reply 6): Wasn't the OCC in PIT just built a couple of years ago? Not sure who paid for the building, but I think US may own the building themselves and they built it from the ground up.
US's new OCC opened in 2008 to the tune of $25 million and there were heavy tax incentives involved (but I will have to go looking for the exact terms). One of the local dailies here in Pittsburgh has a quick blurb about it today:
As was mentioned above, it is hard to imagine the combines carrier wouldn't consolidate operations control in Texas...unless they need to convince some PA legislators that the merger isn't a bad thing (DL did something similar IIRC). Could the PIT center be used to run the in-house express carriers or must those functions be operated out of the same facility?
sccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5088 posts, RR: 28 Reply 12, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1900 times:
I believe that the reporter in the Phoenix paper is smoking dope, based upon them reporting that US would be "buying" AA. Not gonna happen.
Even if the deal, as ultimately structured, looks like an acquisition, it will still have AA's interests (and most important, the interests of its Creditors) as first priority. No deal will happen unless it is materially better for AA's Creditors than emerging and subsequently buying US outright -- so US has to drop it's pantaloons to make a deal a priori. And, they will, if they want it to happen.
Seems to me that, bottom-line, this merger is being pushed now to benefit (primarily) the senior execs at US. It may well end up being good for the employees at one, two or all three carriers involved (because, as we all know, US is for employment purposes two airlines), but that employee benefit will be incidental, not primary.
Lastly, PR hacks can talk the talk, but when the dust settles, KPHX will be a mere shadow of itself, almost entirely comprised of O&D... and the dominant airline there will have planes painted Canyon Blue.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
N243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1490 posts, RR: 21 Reply 14, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 830 times:
Quoting tooluther (Reply 10): US's new OCC opened in 2008 to the tune of $25 million and there were heavy tax incentives involved
AA is currently completely renovating its SOC in Fort Worth to consolidate its dispatch and maintenance control centers (MOC will move from TUL).
Quoting tooluther (Reply 10): As was mentioned above, it is hard to imagine the combines carrier wouldn't consolidate operations control in Texas
Especially with the money that's being put into the new facility down south. Stranger things have happened, but my money is on PIT going by the wayside if/when everything is integrated.
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Especially with the money that's being put into the new facility down south. Stranger things have happened, but my money is on PIT going by the wayside if/when everything is integrated.
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