Moderators From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 514 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4241 times:
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in order to consolidate the AA/US merger threads (and after input from users, which we highly appreciate) the moderators decided to start separate threads each discussing one aspect of the AA/US merger and its impact to both the industry and the two airlines involved.
Please continue discussing this hot news in their individual official threads:
commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 12073 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3876 times:
Quoting HPRamper (Reply 2): While we know what will happen with HQ, what about SOC?
It is hard to imagine the SOC not being in Ft Worth. Not only is it more efficient for the SOC and the headquarters to be in one place, but AA's SOC is Ft Worth is huge, and almost certainly far larger than the US facility (in PIT, right?).
tooluther From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3183 times:
Quoting apodino (Reply 6): Wasn't the OCC in PIT just built a couple of years ago? Not sure who paid for the building, but I think US may own the building themselves and they built it from the ground up.
US's new OCC opened in 2008 to the tune of $25 million and there were heavy tax incentives involved (but I will have to go looking for the exact terms). One of the local dailies here in Pittsburgh has a quick blurb about it today:
As was mentioned above, it is hard to imagine the combines carrier wouldn't consolidate operations control in Texas...unless they need to convince some PA legislators that the merger isn't a bad thing (DL did something similar IIRC). Could the PIT center be used to run the in-house express carriers or must those functions be operated out of the same facility?
I believe that the reporter in the Phoenix paper is smoking dope, based upon them reporting that US would be "buying" AA. Not gonna happen.
Even if the deal, as ultimately structured, looks like an acquisition, it will still have AA's interests (and most important, the interests of its Creditors) as first priority. No deal will happen unless it is materially better for AA's Creditors than emerging and subsequently buying US outright -- so US has to drop it's pantaloons to make a deal a priori. And, they will, if they want it to happen.
Seems to me that, bottom-line, this merger is being pushed now to benefit (primarily) the senior execs at US. It may well end up being good for the employees at one, two or all three carriers involved (because, as we all know, US is for employment purposes two airlines), but that employee benefit will be incidental, not primary.
Lastly, PR hacks can talk the talk, but when the dust settles, KPHX will be a mere shadow of itself, almost entirely comprised of O&D... and the dominant airline there will have planes painted Canyon Blue.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...