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Republic: US Air Ends 9 E145 Leases; Delta Adds 10  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25719 posts, RR: 50
Posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8381 times:

SEC filing today that Republic Holdings subsidiary Chautauqua Airlines has amended lease agreement with two of its customer airlines covering Embraer E145 aircraft.

First, US Airways has elected under its jet service agreement to remove 9 E145 aircraft from service between April 1 and July 1, 2013.

Meanwhile Delta Airlines has elected to add 10 E145 aircraft to be phased in between April 15 and July 15, 2013 under an amended agreement running through January 15, 2015. Delta has requested CHQ make 2 aircraft available between February 15 and April 15 this year to help cover other aircraft undergoing maintenance checks.

Lastly, Delta has also elected to extend 7 existing leases EMB145 leases by additional 6 months through June 15, 2014.

SEC filing:
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/130208/rjet8-k.html

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User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3192 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8111 times:
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Interesting to hear that DL is ADDING 50-seaters, even if it is only short term.


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3768 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7495 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 1):

Interesting to hear that DL is ADDING 50-seaters, even if it is only short term.

Wouldn't be surprised to see if it's to offset 50-seaters that will be leaving the DL fleet. Aren't the first 717s coming to DL around the same time?



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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7382 times:

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 1):
Interesting to hear that DL is ADDING 50-seaters, even if it is only short term.

This may very well be a way to balance out the reorganization of 50-seaters across the entire Delta Connection operation; add a few more to the Chautauqua operation while making reductions elsewhere.



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7279 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 2):
Wouldn't be surprised to see if it's to offset 50-seaters that will be leaving the DL fleet. Aren't the first 717s coming to DL around the same time?

I believe that at first the 717s will be replacing the remaining DC-9s before they start replacing 50-seat regional jets.


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4296 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6603 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 4):
I believe that at first the 717s will be replacing the remaining DC-9s before they start replacing 50-seat regional jets.

I am not sure how a 717 would replace the 50 aircraft except in reducing frequency. I believe that they would be using the 717's on the thinner routes and in the NE. They may also use them to expand into smaller markets that the 737's they have are too big for. They may also be looking at acquiring in the future a comprable aircraft for the CRJ they are retiring.



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User currently offlinealoha73g From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2364 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6203 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 5):
I am not sure how a 717 would replace the 50 aircraft except in reducing frequency. I believe that they would be using the 717's on the thinner routes and in the NE. They may also use them to expand into smaller markets that the 737's they have are too big for. They may also be looking at acquiring in the future a comprable aircraft for the CRJ they are retiring.

Its not so much that the 717s are replacing 50 seaters...its a cascade effect where, for example, a market with 4 daily flights on 50 seat aircraft will be replaced with 3 daily 70 seaters, while a market with 4 daily 70 seaters will be replaced with 3 717 flights. Its more of a system reallocation of assets using 717 "seats" to replace CRJ "seats."

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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4734 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
US Airways has elected under its jet service agreement to remove 9 E145 aircraft from service between April 1 and July 1, 2013.

Interesting wording, as that implies to me that CHQ will continue to operate for US after these frames are removed, just with fewer frames.

The reality is that this terminates US relationship with CHQ - they only operate 9 aircraft for them!

I wonder where US is going to backfill that capacity from? Do they have more E-Jets/CR9s coming on line?



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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
I wonder where US is going to backfill that capacity from? Do they have more E-Jets/CR9s coming on line?

Maybe US needs to cut 50-seat capacity as well.



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User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3828 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 8):
Maybe US needs to cut 50-seat capacity as well.

US doesn't have a glut of 50 seaters... I'm not sure which routes even see the E145 these days. I imagine it won't hurt the cities that have 9 flights a day to CLT to have 8.


User currently offlinedeltairlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8904 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 9):
US doesn't have a glut of 50 seaters... I'm not sure which routes even see the E145 these days. I imagine it won't hurt the cities that have 9 flights a day to CLT to have 8.

US is better than the other carriers with about 28.5% of their departures being on RJs with 50 or less seats (compared to Delta at 30.7%, American at 38.5% and United at 41.6%).

If anything, the only place that US Airways has a glut of 50 seat RJs is DCA, where they make up about 43% of the departures (no wonder the hold room there is so despised when it's handling that large amount of flights!)

That being said, 9 frames is a drop in the bucket. They fly a total of about 69 flights/day, with only CLT-SDF seeing more than 2 frequencies a day. Should be relatively easy to replace some of the slack in the fleet here, either by pruning a frequency or two on some high-frequency routes, putting Piedmont Dash 8s on some (such as CLT-GSO/GSP/EWN/ILM/CAE) or moving Air Wisconsin onto some routes.


User currently offlinekinglobjaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3845 times:

PIT-BDL/STL/RDU still see 3X daily ERJ-145s. I wonder if those will be cut?


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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3768 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3811 times:

Quoting kinglobjaw (Reply 11):

PIT-BDL/STL/RDU still see 3X daily ERJ-145s. I wonder if those will be cut?

AX flies those, not RP. And PIT-STL is used as a crew repositioning flight for AX.



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User currently offlinephlwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

We see at least a few a day in PHL and LGA got a bunch before the slot swap. US may simply see some advantage to simplifying fleet types, not needing to worry after a small fleet of 9.

User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 10):
Piedmont Dash 8s on some (such as CLT-GSO

Point of information: CLT-GSO is all EM7/CR9. I don't think we'll be seeing any Dash8s anytime soon

(sorry to nitpick!)

Quoting phlwok (Reply 13):
We see at least a few a day in PHL

I flew PHL-GSO on an EM4 in October.

Now that I think about it I'm sure that PSA and ZW will be able to cover pretty easily, which makes it a good move for US.



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User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3242 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 14):
Point of information: CLT-GSO is all EM7/CR9. I don't think we'll be seeing any Dash8s anytime soon

(sorry to nitpick!)

The first CLT-GSO of the day is sometimes a DH8, and it's still there as US 4284 on one upcoming day I randomly picked (Feb 26). Equipment does vary by day, it seems to only be a Dash on Tuesdays with different equipment and flight #s on other days. I also see a Sunday-only DH8 as US 4209 and a Saturday-only US 4336 for example. The DH8s board from the downstairs gate at GSO (45 if I recall). The CRJ-200s (frequent on DCA/PHL-GSO, sadly) and CRJ-700s occasionally do CLT-GSO too.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 14):
I flew PHL-GSO on an EM4 in October.

That flight is still there (US 3039, daily except Saturday). As I'm on that route a fair bit, that might be the last ERJ-145 I flew in US Express colors, though I much prefer the E70/75 that follows it a few hours later.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 14):
Now that I think about it I'm sure that PSA and ZW will be able to cover pretty easily, which makes it a good move for US.

Agree. We're only talking about 9 aircraft here too.


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

Quoting PHLwok (Reply 15):

You're right, now that I've looked again I see a few Dash in there. Is this just seasonal adjustment? Last time I looked it was definitely all 70+ seaters, but that could have just been the days I was looking at.



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User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 16):
You're right, now that I've looked again I see a few Dash in there. Is this just seasonal adjustment? Last time I looked it was definitely all 70+ seaters, but that could have just been the days I was looking at.

I'm pretty sure the DH8s have been there part time for a long while regardless of the time of year. The last one I was on doing that route was on a hot, humid June morning last year coming off of a redeye, and it was a pretty uncomfortable 30 minute or so ride. Needless to say, given the far superior equipment normally on the route, I try to avoid the Dashes.


User currently offlineDash8Driver16 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

over new years PDT picked up a GSO-DCA Freq. ITs going to be interesting to see. Yes SDF-CLT is probably the most heavily served but two years ago that route was all -900/700's and the ERJ's were doing PHL, LGA, and DCA. With the new Sched out they are putting the E170 back on the DCA-SDF route once a day and ERJ the other two. the routes I know they run for US are PHL-SDF/CMH/GSO/BWI/LGA/DCA/BDL/IND/ILM
DCA-SDF/IND/ILM/GSP/GSO/CMH/CAE CLT-EWN/SDF/IND/GSO/ILM/CAE/GSP/AGS/DAY. TO name a few. SOme of those routes can be picked up by a dash but anything north or CHO/ROA will be done by a -100. I think it will be harder to replace 9 aircraft then they think that plus in april PDT retires their first Dash. I have heard that there might be 6 more -900 coming to clt from Mesa.


User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3828 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2918 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 14):
Point of information: CLT-GSO is all EM7/CR9. I don't think we'll be seeing any Dash8s anytime soon

Why not, on your 20 minute flight?

Quoting PHLwok (Reply 15):
The CRJ-200s (frequent on DCA/PHL-GSO, sadly)

Would you prefer a dash?

Quoting Dash8Driver16 (Reply 18):
DCA-SDF/IND/ILM/GSP/GSO/CMH/CAE CLT-EWN/SDF/IND/GSO/ILM/CAE/GSP/AGS/DAY. TO name a few. SOme of those routes can be picked up by a dash but anything north or CHO/ROA will be done by a -100.

I'd be surprised. And I wouldn't feel nearly as "special" if there were other cities besides CRW that went all Dash to DCA. I'm sure they'll rotate some RJ's around for them.

Quoting Dash8Driver16 (Reply 18):
I think it will be harder to replace 9 aircraft then they think that plus in april PDT retires their first Dash. I have heard that there might be 6 more -900 coming to clt from Mesa.

Two interesting points. How long can Piedmont go without coming up with some form of fleet renewal/replacement?

Where would the 900's come from?


User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2753 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 19):
Two interesting points. How long can Piedmont go without coming up with some form of fleet renewal/replacement?

Right up until they shut it down. Say, three years or so?


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2617 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 19):
Why not, on your 20 minute flight?

My point was that, as far as I was aware, the market was all 70+ seaters, making a 35 seater unlikely unless they doubled frequency.

PHLwok, however, has pointed out that I'm incorrect and that there are Dashes and CRJs in there, obviously I've only paid attention on busy days/times



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 19):
And I wouldn't feel nearly as "special" if there were other cities besides CRW that went all Dash to DCA. I'm sure they'll rotate some RJ's around for them.

CRW is a bit "special" due to the runway and elevation combo. PSA has some history there . . . Note that UA is also mostly Dash to IAD, though there has been a jet on the last flight of the day at times.



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User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3828 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2354 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 22):
CRW is a bit "special" due to the runway and elevation combo. PSA has some history there . . . Note that UA is also mostly Dash to IAD, though there has been a jet on the last flight of the day at times.


Only turboprop service are 3 DH8 to IAD and 3 DH8 to DCA, both of which are drastic upgrades from the SF3 previously on the routes. There's also a Dash to CLT that US uses to fund the DCA flying. IAD is 4x, but one frequency is a jet.

We're only at 1,000ft. ASL. Surprisingly low given what the airport and surrounding terrain look like. Yes, PSA had quite the "oops" here a few years ago.


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