sibille From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 450 posts, RR: 3 Posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4182 times:
A small aircraft crashed this morning at Charleroi airport (Belgium). 5 peoples died (2 adultes + 3 children) and the airport is completly closed until at least 2:30 .
Seems it's a Cessna (type unknow) wich had an engine problem after take off. The pilot tried to come back at the airport and crashed near the runway.
BrusselsSouth From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 598 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (3 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3617 times:
Very sad day at CRL. May they all RIP.
CRL has been closed immediately after the crash and has just reopened (at about 16:00 local).
It's the first fatal accident involving CRL if I'm not mistaken (Sabena lost a 737-200 in 1978 after a bird strike during a training flight, without fatalities).
Sassiciai From Belgium, joined Jan 2013, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3286 times:
I remember during my early flying lessons, unannounced my instructor shut the throttle on our Cessna 152 at 1000feet just after take off, and asked me "Now what?". I think I panicked, and he took over control. But then he underlined in my mind - never try to do a 180 and land back, with no engine, it's not possible. Nose down, look ahead, choose a field, and make your normal landing preparations!
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
On pprune, says an airport employee who helped board the plane says there was frost (ice) on the plane and pilot refused deicing offer, ASN report says freezing fog and temp -3C at time of crash.
a380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1011 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (3 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2156 times:
I flew in a centurion 10 years ago as a passenger. A few months later, it crashed killing all aboard close to Bordeaux killing all aboard except one I think. I kind of remember this plane has had more than its share of trouble. Is that just an impression?
maxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 854 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1676 times:
Quoting a380900 (Reply 10): I flew in a centurion 10 years ago as a passenger. A few months later, it crashed killing all aboard close to Bordeaux killing all aboard except one I think. I kind of remember this plane has had more than its share of trouble. Is that just an impression?
Nothing wrong with Cessna 210s - like many high- performance singles, the skills to master them often exceed the abilities of those who can write the check big enough to afford them.
skygirl1990 From New Zealand, joined Jun 2010, 115 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1662 times:
Quoting Sassiciai (Reply 7): I remember during my early flying lessons, unannounced my instructor shut the throttle on our Cessna 152 at 1000feet just after take off, and asked me "Now what?". I think I panicked, and he took over control. But then he underlined in my mind - never try to do a 180 and land back, with no engine, it's not possible. Nose down, look ahead, choose a field, and make your normal landing preparations!
Turn back with no power is just not on!
Not *quite* true. While it is not at all recommended it is possible. We had a successful one the other day after an actual EFATO and I have successfully managed one as well during a training FLWOP. But it is only worth it if there is no wind, a good sized runway (or very large field) and no other option. Oh and also being well aware of the dangers of doing it not even associated with trying to make the runway - for example low IAS, low altitude but a very high angle of bank (to 180) will bring you right to the edge of the stall and at that height, stall with an engine out and its over rover
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