-It is a huge depart from the current color palette, but it is not bad. White shirts are not matching,
needs to be a different hue.
-Almost all five outfits not fitting the FAs.
-Guys uniform could very well be worn by Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan.
-Ladies coats, skirts length a foot too long.
-Ladies caps are not flattering.
-If you just look at the middle third of the photo, actually not that bad.
They are still working on it and this photo was shared by someone on the social media.
FCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 472 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 14805 times:
Oh please god NO! this is HIDEOUS
Please tell me TK scrap this and completely re-invent it - it's like a 60's Air Berlin uniform, only much much worse and SO dated - even AA's uniform is better than this.
The men's colours are quite nice, but the style is dreadful and a turtleneck? really? the 90's ended 20 years ago TK
a320fan From Australia, joined Apr 2009, 17 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 14706 times:
Meh,
they don't look like they fit the models and look like it would be uncomfortable and annoying having to wear and work in them for so many hours.
Some of the design elements of the garments themselves I am not a fan of, Turtle necks? Really? who thought that would be a good idea. And the coats look to long.
However the colours I do like. I feel this ares is a big improvement on the current uniform, which is very generic looking and does not say "Turkish Airlines" I saw a Turkish crew walking through PEK last year, I had to follow them and see what aircraft they got on to work out who they were.
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luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 4, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 14488 times:
Terrible to say the very least. Someone got paid for this.
gokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1097 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 13877 times:
Boy I've been going crazy over this on twitter. There are like 3 trending topics over this and a big majority hates it.
It created so much discussion that TK and desiger said the outfits pictured are just a "study". Hideous, conservative, ottoman, unsafe. Thats my opinion.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22050 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 13774 times:
First these were leaked photos and not the final version. As its being told there are 15-20 variations.
But ultimately in my view, I think its great TK wants to be different and not have generic uniforms.
Some of the most memorable airlines like Singapore or Gulf carriers have uniforms that are quite unique, and TK should also.
With this in mind, its would be very fitting to use history, use of colors and pattern that yes might have Islamic influences to create something unique or Turkish and not the bland uniforms 90% of the industry uses.
Anyhow as both the designer and company have mentioned this project is far from finished and these were not the final products.
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TurkishWings From Turkey, joined May 2006, 1407 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 13633 times:
Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 12): Way to conservative/religious looking for a country like Turkey. If they added a headscarf it would be suitable for Iran Air or Saudia.
SCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 460 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 13568 times:
Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 12): Way to conservative/religious looking for a country like Turkey. If they added a headscarf it would be suitable for Iran Air or Saudia.
That was my first thought as well... they could be Saudia's new uniforms. Even current Saudia's uniforms are more "sensual" since women wear pants, so they are tighter (yet they have their hair covered).
Yet Turkey is trying to be a regional powerhouse, and getting closer to other Gulf countries... IMO those new uniforms are very representative when you think that a national public airline is one of the ambassadors of any nation.
senchingo From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13317 times:
This is just horrible... A mix of overdone futuristic (Mr. Spock, men) and back to the 70's (women).
The mens uniform has a round cut turtleneck, while the vest and shirt underneath have a straight cut. Plus trouser, shirt, vest and jacket all have different grey tones.
The womens uniform look like a Christmas present wrapped in carpet; Raincoat variation looks like a Russian preacher, while the winter coat (?) variation looks like above mentioned carpet but sliced in half.
Gosh, what are they thinking?
Quoting gokmengs (Reply 10): It created so much discussion that TK and desiger said the outfits pictured are just a "study"
readytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 13106 times:
If I worked for them I would think seriously about changing airlines, I am struggling for a good/nice word to say about about the whole outfit, male and female.
If the airline used a fashion consultant/agency they should be fired.
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mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22719 posts, RR: 88 Reply 18, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12817 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 11): But ultimately in my view, I think its great TK wants to be different and not have generic uniforms.
I quite like them. At least they are a bit (only a little bit) different and I see nothing wrong with Turkish Airlines reocgnizing the older parts of the country's culture as well as the new.
FCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 472 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12749 times:
It actually makes me feel a bit ill looking at them, and how terribly uncomfortable they would be for the crew too, yuk.
Like others I agree they should express individuality and history as the national airline of Turkey - just not in such a tasteless, ill-thought and un-stylish way.
gokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1097 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12517 times:
I know that Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but come on guys this is hideous. Plus some here know that this is just not a uniform but goes in to a deep subject/argument.
This is what TK's official twitter account wrote after the picture leaked and twitter exploded;
"Bir süre önce başlayan kabin kıyafeti tasarımlarımız henüz sonuçlanmamıştır. Sonuçlandığında sizlerle paylaşmaktan mutluluk duyacağız."
To translate; " we haven't concluded our cabin uniform designs that we have been working on for a while. We'll be glad to share it with you once its complete"
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24907 posts, RR: 60 Reply 22, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 12298 times:
Well lets hope the final designs are a lot different than the above because those in the article are just unbelievable. For a company such as TK that is trying to aim for a progressive modern and professional product they really could not have got it more wrong. It looks like a group of folk dancers in the Balkans. They could have done so much better and incorporated Turkish design but this is an epic fail. Such a shame. The current uniforms are way way better than these proposed new ones.
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leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 654 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11637 times:
2nd and 3rd models (1st and 2nd girls) look OK, somewhat reminds me of the BA uniforms.... But the other two girls look like they have their comforters wrapped around them. Very mediocre, very conservative.
AA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 357 posts, RR: 0 Reply 27, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11044 times:
Sorry, TK, but it looks like the uniforms were fashioned from the drapes and carpeting in my grandmother's house.
I admire and respect the fact that TK may want to be unique with their uniforms, but surely there is a way to create a unique uniform without reverting to '70s style patterns and turtlenecks.
Further, as other posters have noted, the uniforms seem very "buttoned up," like every exposed area of flesh has been in some way covered up, and not tastefully either.
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filoflyer From Finland, joined Feb 2012, 45 posts, RR: 0 Reply 28, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10544 times:
Judging from the picture... I like the current one better....!! I think these uniforms will be very uncomfortable to work with... And undeniably UGLYI have flown with tk 4x this year and iconsistently find their cabin temperature quite warm for my liking and im only wearing a shirt and jeans. Star trek girls of ay look better and comfortable with their uniforms and you can see it from their faces
ThereandBack From Turkey, joined Aug 2005, 699 posts, RR: 4 Reply 29, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10298 times:
I like the color pallet but the fit and shape needs to be worked on and they look way too covered up. Another issue with these uniforms is that they look like they would be extremely uncomfortable during summer flights to places like AYT, IAH, SIN.
They could have used other Turkish designers that would fit the aesthetic they're going for with the cabin and branding like Hussein Chalayan or Erdem Moralioglu. After looking up the designer they're using now, she seems to design very fussy over embellished pieces which clashes with the clean modern red/black looking that TK is going for.
Northstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 157 posts, RR: 0 Reply 31, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9005 times:
GENTS, This is NOT the next uniform for TK.
TK is in the progress of selecting a new uniform, and they are currently running a tender working with some fashion designers. This is one of the designs which was brought to TK by a designer - along with lots of other uniforms from different designers.
Be cool, it wont be selected - this is just media trying to create sensational news, however it is false.
Again, this is NOT what TK selected.
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qantas077 From China, joined Jan 2004, 5745 posts, RR: 49 Reply 35, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6627 times:
70's, I don't think so...this is going back a long way and I suggest that it is a little of the nation's history in the uniform, if tailored correctly then I think they'd be quite nice. I quite like the look.
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SR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 753 posts, RR: 1 Reply 36, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6285 times:
Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 31): TK is in the progress of selecting a new uniform, and they are currently running a tender working with some fashion designers. This is one of the designs which was brought to TK by a designer - along with lots of other uniforms from different designers.
Be cool, it wont be selected - this is just media trying to create sensational news, however it is false.
Well, the good thing about this is that they now know which design would -not- be well received ; )
777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5188 posts, RR: 4 Reply 37, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6208 times:
The guys is nice minus turtle neck it should have a chinese collar style, the girl next to him is good too minus scarf, the white sleeved girl could be half sleeved minus scarf and hat, the third girl is also good minus hat and scarf and white trim on sleeves and collar as well as the white cuffs showing, the full length jacket girl could be more tailored.
I ilke the colours and the "Persian Carpet" and "Balkan Folk Dancer" look, glad its different and brings in a bit of Turk culture and heritage.
quiet1 From Thailand, joined Apr 2010, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 41, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3487 times:
Yikes! Those are pretty bad.
The third female looks like a North Korean grandma. Is the fourth female wearing some sort of baggy grey trousers? Or, is it some ankle-length dress/skirt?
The 7 7 7 on the tails of the neckware remind me more of a casino logo than Boeing, for some reason, as well.
okAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0 Reply 42, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3203 times:
Oh my.. I cannot say I like them. They make beautiful people like the models in the picture are look like old aunties on a visit from the 1970s. I hope TK reconsiders!
leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 654 posts, RR: 1 Reply 45, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
Quoting 777way (Reply 44):
Culturally Turkey is quite like the middle east, I find iran to be Turkey like as well so are the Levant nations.
Except airlines do not have races / religions / ethnicities (as they are non-living things) but corporate affiliations, regional group memberships etc. And last I heard they still did not belong in a Middle Eastern Airlines Association but the Association of European Airlines.
tcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2 Reply 46, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2209 times:
I believe this news story is just another cheap attempt to bash TK over nothing. Nobody cares what Dilek Hanif (Designer) or TK has to say about these rumors in the Turkish Media. Business as usual...
Which is a travesty on its own but I won't go into the discussion of how some gov't agenda creeps into TK decisions like these (as well as the case with the uniforms).
tcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2 Reply 49, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2004 times:
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 48): Which is a travesty on its own but I won't go into the discussion of how some gov't agenda creeps into TK decisions like these (as well as the case with the uniforms).
Why is being a partner of the AACO a travesty? The Middle East is one of the fastest growing aviation markets on the globe and Turkey is just next to it. TK is successful because it is not only focused to the West.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4106 posts, RR: 13 Reply 53, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
Thanks for the link;
This was a great exercise for TK; "damage control". Hope TK learns from this.
Some of you may know; I kinda work in this industry. When you work for an APPLE commercial and such, there usually is a security crew on set, every and each one of personal phone cameras are covered with a specific tape during work so no one takes a picture and leaks it to the media. Also everyone signs a confidentiality agreement, pages long, that you will not leak any info to press/social media.
Guess what, who is going to remember these last photos released by TK?
First impression is everything.
Anyway, looking at the new pictures;
Again, I wouldn't have them released the way they are ( still ill-fitting uniforms, unhappy crew members, bad lighting)
but
http://www.airporthaber.com/wk-uploads/news/thy1_216.jpg
Male uniform fine (what is up with Turkish tailors and the length of the pants at the ankles?????)
Ladies pants, horrible. Look at the length of the pants, why can't they do the same with the guys???
I love the tulip detail on the caps. The material with all that texture could only be used as accessories, maybe vest but not as pants. Looks terrible. I still don't like the white shirt, just too white. Need a different hue.
http://www.airporthaber.com/wk-uploads/news/thy6_1.jpg
Again, very nice. Nice TK logo detailed buttons. Wouldn't this outfit compliment the TK interiors on the 333/77W fleet?
Exactly, stay away from texture that you don't have anywhere else your company brand.
I have to add, last year I was in a room just like the one seen in the pictures above, when Virgin America was choosing out of 6 or so different designers. Let me tell you I was blown away by how detailed all presentations were and hard was to make choices. I know it is hard to keep everyone happy, we all like dislike different things, but that is why you have to keep it as simple and as elegant as possible.
Not everything in Turkish design/music/architecture/art/dance have to be a "Synthesis of East and West"
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4106 posts, RR: 13 Reply 54, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1787 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 53): "Synthesis of East and West"
Oh my..... I just saw the title of that piece "Stratejimiz Dogu Bati Sentezi" after posting my above statement.
If I hear this one more time.......
At least, she is very successful getting her message across, I got what she was trying to do from a single photo.
toobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 673 posts, RR: 0 Reply 55, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
I seriously hope this isn't the final design, as indicated. LOL...Hamid Karzai..good one TK.
And as far as the pic of AYs uniform..yeah not my fave, they've had better ones for sure. Have to say I don't mind them that much..except for the potato sack on the left. But other than that, I think only AY could pull these off!
tcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2 Reply 56, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1735 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 53): This was a great exercise for TK; "damage control". Hope TK learns from this.
IMHO, the problem is the eagerness of some of the media outlets and some aviation sites (run by people who have deep ideological problems with the government and TK management) to slander TK anyway possible. The latest example being, portraying one of the 20 different designs as being TK's new uniforms. I seriously doubt Virgin America has to deal with such nonsense.
BTW, I think Turkey is unique in being a synthesis of East and West. This is also where it's strength lies. And that is why Turkey is a member of the Association of European Airlines and a partner to the AACO
leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 654 posts, RR: 1 Reply 57, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1689 times:
Quoting tcm (Reply 56): BTW, I think Turkey is unique in being a synthesis of East and West. This is also where it's strength lies. And that is why Turkey is a member of the Association of European Airlines and a partner to the AACO
And I agree with you However, I'd be more content if I knew for sure that they weren't trying to steer the direction towards the Arab world entirely. I sure wouldn't like to fly - or take pride in - an airline with no booze, covered FAs, masjid on board with call to prayer on long haul flights like SV.
tcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2 Reply 58, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1648 times:
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 57): And I agree with you However, I'd be more content if I knew for sure that they weren't trying to steer the direction towards the Arab world entirely. I sure wouldn't like to fly - or take pride in - an airline with no booze, covered FAs, masjid on board with call to prayer on long haul flights like SV.
I see that you have many misconceptions about the Arab world. EK has a bar on their 380s. Ever partied in Beirut or Amman? I could go on and on forever. Suggesting that TK could become like SV is, I'am sorry to say, hilarious and a grave misundersanding of Turkish Society. Hope I haven't offended you
leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 654 posts, RR: 1 Reply 59, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1610 times:
Quoting tcm (Reply 58): Ever partied in Beirut or Amman?
All strictly secular - even dictatorial - nations run partially by Christian minorities. Love Beirut indeed. But if it were up to militants, it would be only bombs and no parties.
Quoting tcm (Reply 58): EK has a bar on their 380s.
An airline run by Western execs.
I know I am exaggerating a bit, but predominantly Muslim / conservative countries are not known by their progressiveness. But let's not move the discussion to religion etc
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22050 posts, RR: 51 Reply 61, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1548 times:
Quoting tcm (Reply 56): I think Turkey is unique in being a synthesis of East and West. This is also where it's strength lies. And that is why Turkey is a member of the Association of European Airlines and a partner to the AACO
TK has been participating in AACO events going back to the 1980s even. It has nothing to do with the government as these contacts have existed for a long time.
Also AACO is solely a trade organiztion, and as a result it has done lots of good, including even benefiting THY. AACO cooperation has led to THY gaining maintenance and flight training support work from members, improved bilateral relations to allow for more TK flights, expand codeshares, etc..
Anyhow - is India "Arab"? Jet Airways is a partner airlines to the AACO.
Also are British Airways & Iberia "Arab"? IAG is a AACO partner airline as well....
While at it, do people complain that Turkey was a founding member of the Organization of The Islamic Conference in 1969?
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I know it's a matter of taste, but I really don't like these uniforms. I find them quite plain. They remind me of the previous TAP uniforms or even the Nederland Spoor uniforms! After seeing much more pictures of the carpet uniforms, I have to say I'd love to see TK's cabin crew wearing that!
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