AirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 955 posts, RR: 2 Posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4594 times:
Is it a new step for a future strategic alliance between AF and EY? AF terminated AUH only few months ago.
One of the two daily EY flights between AUH and CDG will be operated by an AF A343 under EY number. It doesn't seem to be code-share but an ACMI instead.
Any information on that strange matter? What is the idea behind?
mozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2399 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3346 times:
As a loyal and frequent customer of EY especially on the CDG route I am shocked. The AF hard product in Business Class is extremely poor compared to what EY offers. No way will I take the flight operated by AF, which results in EY offering less choice to/From Paris than before.
What were they thinking when they decided to outsource flying to a company that is two tiers lower in terms of quality?
My feeling with AUH and EY is that the government (that owns the airline) is desperately willing to attract foreign carriers at any cost to their home airport and increase sinergies with them as well. For many if not most European, American or Asian (ex. sub-continent) carriers can perfectly serve UAE out of DXB alone; Air France, Singapore or Air Asia X have been some of the airlines to cancel AUH services not long ago. And Dubai keeps getting more foreign carriers by the day (in addition to EK's own growth). Probably some ppl in Abu Dhabi does not like that.
So far, they have got Garuda (actually moving from DXB), KLM, Czech Airlines, Alitalia, Air France (back) and Air Berlin with such agreements. Not bad.
factsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 1889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2948 times:
Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 8): So far, they have got Garuda (actually moving from DXB), KLM, Czech Airlines, Alitalia, Air France (back) and Air Berlin with such agreements. Not bad.
You may be correct that Garuda, CSA, Alitalia and Air Berlin moved from DXB to AUH following cooperation agreements with EY, but the EY/AF/KLM agreement has not resulted in changes to AF/KLM's network. These two airlines continue to operate to both stations AUH & DXB.
AF has operated to both DXB & AUH for years, the airline closed the AUH route during the financial crisis but returned 2 years ago well before the EY agreement.
KLM launched flights to DXB (1x/week DC8 AMS-ATH-DHA-DXB) in 1972 (41 years ago), while the airline launched AMS-ATH-DHA-AUH with DC8S 2x/week in Summer 1976. The airline has operated DC8, DC10, A310, B767 and now A330 aircraft on the AMS-AUH route over the last 37 years. Ofcourse the CDG & AMS - AUH routes will now see frequency increases, but DXB remains very much part of the network of AF/KLM.