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AF/EY Partnership: EY Daily CDG-AUH With AF A340  
User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 892 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3634 times:

Is it a new step for a future strategic alliance between AF and EY? AF terminated AUH only few months ago.

One of the two daily EY flights between AUH and CDG will be operated by an AF A343 under EY number. It doesn't seem to be code-share but an ACMI instead.
Any information on that strange matter? What is the idea behind?

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User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3622 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Thread starter):
What is the idea behind?

I think it's simply that EY is lacking aircrafts for its development.


User currently offlineairbuster From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 454 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

MP is also wet leasing a 747 freighter to EY.


FLY FOKKER JET LINE!
User currently offlineanstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5316 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

They also do a similar thing with Virgin Australia from AUH-KUL

User currently onlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Thread starter):
It doesn't seem to be code-share but an ACMI instead.

It is a codeshare.

AF3802 / AF3803 - EY038 / EY037 DAILY A343 (AF OPERATING)

AF3800 / AF3801 - EY032 / EY031 DAILY A346 (EY OPERATING)


User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2238 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

As a loyal and frequent customer of EY especially on the CDG route I am shocked. The AF hard product in Business Class is extremely poor compared to what EY offers. No way will I take the flight operated by AF, which results in EY offering less choice to/From Paris than before.

What were they thinking when they decided to outsource flying to a company that is two tiers lower in terms of quality?


User currently offlinedennys From France, joined May 2001, 900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting anstar (Reply 3):

It is a codeshare.

AF3802 / AF3803 - EY038 / EY037 DAILY A343 (AF OPERATING)

sorry , I have no A343 AF scheduled . only 333 345 346 which are EY aircrafts

EXTENDED SCHEDULE INFORMATION 11FEB13-18JAN14 0001-2359
PARIS-ABU DHABI
EFF DISC MTWTFSS BRD OFF DEP ARR FLIGHT EQU
- 23FEB13 1234567 CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
24FEB13 24FEB13 ......7 CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 345
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
25FEB13 10MAR13 1234567 CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
11MAR13 17MAR13 ....5.. CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 345
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
11MAR13 17MAR13 1234.67 CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
18MAR13 24MAR13 1234567 CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
25MAR13 30MAR13 123..6. CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 346
)> NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
25MAR13 30MAR13 ...45.. CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 345
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
27OCT13 30DEC13 1234567 CDG AUH 1100 2040 AF3800 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
31MAR13 28MAY13 1234567 CDG AUH 1120 2015 AF3800 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
29MAY13 29MAY13 ..3.... CDG AUH 1120 2015 AF3800 345
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
30MAY13 26OCT13 1234567 CDG AUH 1120 2015 AF3800 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
- 11FEB13 1.34.67 CDG AUH 2140#0720 AF3802 345
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
- 11FEB13 ....5.. CDG AUH 2140#0720 AF3802 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
07MAY13 29MAY13 1234.67 CDG AUH 2205#0700 AF3802 345
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
07MAY13 29MAY13 ....5.. CDG AUH 2205#0700 AF3802 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
30MAY13 01JUL13 1234567 CDG AUH 2205#0700 AF3802 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
02JUL13 15OCT13 12.456. CDG AUH 2205#0700 AF3802 333
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
02JUL13 12OCT13 ..3...7 CDG AUH 2205#0700 AF3802 346
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
13OCT13 26OCT13 ..34..7 CDG AUH 2205#0700 AF3802 345
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS
18OCT13 26OCT13 12..56. CDG AUH 2205#0700 AF3802 333
NO RESERVATION FOR U-CLASS
OPERATED BY ETIHAD AIRWAYS


User currently onlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

Quoting dennys (Reply 6):

Flights are begining on May 15th.

And it is indeed a code-share ...

Check on AF website ...


User currently onlineSCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

Quoting mozart (Reply 5):

My feeling with AUH and EY is that the government (that owns the airline) is desperately willing to attract foreign carriers at any cost to their home airport and increase sinergies with them as well. For many if not most European, American or Asian (ex. sub-continent) carriers can perfectly serve UAE out of DXB alone; Air France, Singapore or Air Asia X have been some of the airlines to cancel AUH services not long ago. And Dubai keeps getting more foreign carriers by the day (in addition to EK's own growth). Probably some ppl in Abu Dhabi does not like that.

So far, they have got Garuda (actually moving from DXB), KLM, Czech Airlines, Alitalia, Air France (back) and Air Berlin with such agreements. Not bad.


User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 1003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 8):
So far, they have got Garuda (actually moving from DXB), KLM, Czech Airlines, Alitalia, Air France (back) and Air Berlin with such agreements. Not bad.

You may be correct that Garuda, CSA, Alitalia and Air Berlin moved from DXB to AUH following cooperation agreements with EY, but the EY/AF/KLM agreement has not resulted in changes to AF/KLM's network. These two airlines continue to operate to both stations AUH & DXB.

AF has operated to both DXB & AUH for years, the airline closed the AUH route during the financial crisis but returned 2 years ago well before the EY agreement.

KLM launched flights to DXB (1x/week DC8 AMS-ATH-DHA-DXB) in 1972 (41 years ago), while the airline launched AMS-ATH-DHA-AUH with DC8S 2x/week in Summer 1976. The airline has operated DC8, DC10, A310, B767 and now A330 aircraft on the AMS-AUH route over the last 37 years. Ofcourse the CDG & AMS - AUH routes will now see frequency increases, but DXB remains very much part of the network of AF/KLM.


User currently onlineSCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 9):

Air France returned to AUH in 2010 but cancelled it again in March 2012.

http://airlineroute.net/2012/01/17/af-auhlej-mar12cxld/


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