Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1845 times:
Guys, this goes way beyond isolated car bombs and guys on foot with 5 pounds of C-4. This was a highly organized and executed attack by someone with the means to do so - i.e. a state.
This is where we will find out if Bush has any balls. The gloves must come off. Carpet bomb whatever country launched this attack. Someone has declared war against the USA. Declare it back, and follow through.
Notarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
Always adding wise words. I am definitely with you. Charles, actually, we DON't KNOW ANYTHING about it. All we know is that - seemingly - three (hijacked) planes crashed into the WTC and the Pentagon.
Now it's time to think, to ask, and to identify. Furthermore, it is important to think about the people who just died in New York and Washington and their families. They need to clear up the situation and to provide as-far-as-possible safety.
Calm down. It's terrible, it's horrible what happened. It's even a stupid action. But, no doubt, the responsible people are going to pay for it. The world needs to be SURE about them before starting any actions.
Notarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1176 times:
Don't understand? We do not know anything about the question "go to war or not", which is your intention. Do you know the people behind the scene for SURE? Regarding the Palestinian claim... what if Mossad issued that one? Hope you get the point already. It is does not make any sense to start any immediate campaign. You need to KNOW.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7694 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1148 times:
I'll say this right now: don't be surprised if our B-1, B-2 and B-52 forces are now on DEFCON 2 alert, armed with both conventional and nuclear weapons, and in the air and waiting for Presidential command for a retaliatory attack.
The attack on the World Trade Center may have killed at least 2,000 people. It will NOT go unpunished.
Joni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
I think you people ought to calm down. Notzart is right in that Mossad may just as well be responsible for this as the Palestinians.
Anyway, you cannot go to war against the Palestininans becaue they don't have a country and you can't go to war against Israel (the Mossad case) because Israel's proxies in the US ruling circles would torpedo that initiative.
Anyway, let's see what Bush's advisers decide to do.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1128 times:
I never said that the U.S. should lash out indescriminately. But the people who launched the attack should not be alive by Jan 1, 2002. If there is collateral damage, so be it. That will send a future message that people who know terrorists live in the area should move somewhere else.
Right now, the primary course of action belongs to the CIA, who will find out who did this.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 21 Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1113 times:
Joni, the Palestinians consider themselves a nationstate. Let's for once treat them as such.
If they did this, as seems likely as it is their modus operandi (albeit on a larger scale than ever before) it is an act of war. Under international law any armed response is allowed to such.
The same if it is for example Iran (also not known for being in love with the USA or Afghanistan (though they probably lack the imagination and resources to pull this of)).
Ilyag From Israel, joined Jan 2001, 110 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1097 times:
With all the respect to Palestinians, this looks way more serious - someone like Bin-Ladean & Co, who is driven not by rational considerations, but by fanatic religious believes. It also looks like some not-so-US-friendly states took a part in this (Iraq/Iran/Afganistan). Palestinians are fighting Israelis (belive me, I'm familiar with this subject), not US. Even fanatic palestinian movements, such as Hamas, are using US for raising funds. We would have to wait and see what comes out of this, but I'm not rooling out a possibility of military compaign against Afganistan (for example), if americans decide that Bin-Ladean was behind this.