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Alleged Drunken Rowdy Off-Duty BA Crew On Flight

RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6288 posts, RR: 23
Posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7071 times:

I know it's from the Daily Wail (spelling chosen advisedly), so should possibly be taken with a kilo of salt, but if there's any truth in the allegations then it's pretty dire.

It is claimed that off-duty crew members got drunk and acted rowdily and inappropriately in the premium cabins, ruining the flight for other passengers flying from London to Washington.

Anyone have any information about the alleged incident?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ndon-Washington.html#axzz2KaQVqitn

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womenbeshopping From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6992 times:

Looks like it is not an isolated incident.

Female Passenger 'groped' By Drunk BA Captain (by GEsubsea Feb 3 2013 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2013-02-11 03:22:58]

David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9216 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6941 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
I know it's from the Daily Wail (spelling chosen advisedly), so should possibly be taken with a kilo of salt

I'm not sure why they've thrown in an incident that apparently didn't involve any BA crew.

Quoting womenbeshopping (Reply 1):

That's not the same incident.

toobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 673 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6884 times:

Something tells me BA might be reviewing the alcohol policy for off duty crew

this is getting out of control. I can only speak for DL, this would be totally not tolerated from ANY crew member. Wings would be taken away.

charliecossie From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 467 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6816 times:

Only the gullible take a Mail story at face value, especially when it involves BA.

RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6288 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6736 times:

Quoting David L (Reply 2):
I'm not sure why they've thrown in an incident that apparently didn't involve any BA crew.

The story claims it was off-duty BA crew.

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 4):
Only the gullible take a Mail story at face value, especially when it involves BA.

That is precisely why I repeatedly used the word 'alleged/allegation', 'claimed' and pointed out that it should be 'taken with a kilo of salt'. Given that I was so clear in this respect, what precisely was the point of stating this a second time? This is also why I ask in the first place whether anyone has any information.

Quoting David L (Reply 2):
That's not the same incident.

Indeed it isn't.

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Quokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6653 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 4):
Only the gullible take a Mail story at face value, especially when it involves BA.

But they do quote the Sun...

and indeed that venerable rag does cover the alleged incident -
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...boozed-up-rampage-on-a-flight.html

Mind you, it's not the first time that allegations of rowdy behaviour have been made. In 2009 the Telegraph reported that a memo had been sent out warning that the airline might have to cut flights if staff behaviour was not improved. In that instance the complaints related to the behaviour reported to have occurred in the hotels used by crew - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...in-crew-after-raucous-parties.html

It may be a truism in the news media that you never let the facts get in the way of a story but is there any substance to any of the bad reports that emerge from time to time? Maybe, as cabin crew are humans just like everyone else. Is there exaggeration? Maybe, because dramatic "news" sells papers.

David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9216 posts, RR: 42
Reply 7, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6310 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 5):
The story claims it was off-duty BA crew.

The article is about rowdy behaviour by off-duty BA crew on a Washington-bound flight and it makes reference to the aforementioned BA pilot. But then they've thrown in an incident on a Gatwick-Tunisia flight which apparently had nothing to do with BA crew. It just seems a bit of a tenuous link to me.

RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6288 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6286 times:

Quoting David L (Reply 7):
But then they've thrown in an incident on a Gatwick-Tunisia flight which apparently had nothing to do with BA crew. It just seems a bit of a tenuous link to me.

Ah, didn't realise that was what you were referring to. Yes, it does seem tenuous, but then that's what the mail does - pile on any more mud that they can possibly think of, in order to beef up the story and make it seem like there's a major endemic problem at play rather than a couple of isolated incidents. Typical gutter press tactic.

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tonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1176 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6140 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 6):
But they do quote the Sun...

Well there you have it, I'm convinced! Lol

But....Thats AVIATION Darling!!!!

Channex101 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6001 times:

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Quoting charliecossie (Reply 4):

Couldn't agree more, the Daily Biggot seem to love to hate BA, and yet BA continue to give that rag away as a free paper.

As crew for BA I know how BA would view this, any excuse to get rid of old contract crew and they'll be out. But acting like this onboard, regardless of fleet/contract they will probably face dismissal!

womenbeshopping From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5480 times:

Quoting David L (Reply 2):
That's not the same incident.

Very aware of that, I posted because it seemed relevant to the current thread. But thanks!!

sweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5291 times:

Pomms have never handled alocohol well, not that scandinavians are any better at it. Its the viking/barbarian history

bastew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1007 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

If the crew were positioning then they were certainly not 'off duty' as far as BA is concerned. They would certainly be suspended immediately and face disciplinary action including the likely loss of staff travel for a period of time. That is if they are not sacked. 'Bringing the company into disrepute' is a sackable offence.

[Edited 2013-02-11 14:10:17]

jmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3161 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

This story sort of reminds me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyIrXH-ITw4

[Edited 2013-02-11 23:26:58]

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