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US Airways And American Agree To Merger (official)  
User currently offlinejlbmedia From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 622 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 34903 times:
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http://airnation.net/2013/02/13/american-airlines-us-airways-merger/

Official announcement Thursday morning.

[Edited 2013-02-13 16:44:33]


JLB54061
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User currently offlineaal0616 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 272 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34827 times:

Just received a news bulletin from the Wall Street Journal online that both boards have approved the merger and it will be formally announced Thursday morning.

Wow. Biggest AA news in our lifetimes. This will indeed be an interesting transition.


User currently offlineaal0616 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 272 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34754 times:

Now the story is appearing on the WSJ website

"US Airways, AMR Boards Approve Merger Deal"

[Edited 2013-02-13 16:15:15]

User currently offlineaal0616 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 272 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34614 times:

WSJ reports:

AA creditors to own 72% of combined company and US Airways shareholders the balance;

Doug Parker will be CEO, Tom Horton will be non-executive board chairman at least until 2014;

The new board will have 12 directors; creditors appoint 5, AA 4 and US Airways 3. Board drops to 11 when Horton departs as chairman, source says.

Market capitalization at least $10 billion.

Over my pay grade to otherwise understand.

Onward!


User currently offlineAllegiantFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34547 times:

I guess i really shouldn't be shocked but,I was really thinking that AA was going to get out of this alone. But im also glad that AA has put their past behind them and started the present

User currently offlineMrBuzzcut From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34403 times:

If this is true, I hope the combined carrier is more AA and less US, and that they can work out labor issues before this goes to completion. I know a TWA scenario won't be likely, but I don't think everybody is going to be as happy as they would have been had the companies stayed separate.

User currently offlineaal0616 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 272 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34178 times:

The news is also on the WFAA-TV website, the Dallas Morning News website and now Fox News (cable) has just reported the breaking story.

A new era appears to begin.

Happy St. Valentine's Day!

[Edited 2013-02-13 16:30:21]

User currently onlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34062 times:

This was one merger I sincerely hoped was not going to happen, even moreso than the UA-CO merger. AA doesn't need US to survive and thrive. This merger brings nothing to the table, AA is already strong over the Atlantic and in Latin America, what AA needs is a greater presence in Asia, which US, obviously, does not bring to the table. I am also saddened that we will be down to 3 legacy carriers in the US, and I cringe at the thought that any of "big 3" may try to merge in the coming future (which will no doubt someday occur). The variety that once adorned US airports is now all but gone, and I can only hope that this merger brings about greater stability to the industry if nothing else. This still puts AA in a poor position competitively to UA and DL, both of which have more formidable global networks. AA didn't need US but US obviously felt it needed US, and management and shareholders thinking of nothing but their pocketbooks have evidently bowed to increases pressures. Oh well...

Jeremy


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4125 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34057 times:

Quoting MrBuzzcut (Reply 5):

If this is true, I hope the combined carrier is more AA and less US, and that they can work out labor issues before this goes to completion. I know a TWA scenario won't be likely, but I don't think everybody is going to be as happy as they would have been had the companies stayed separate.

If no one is happy that usually signals it is a good deal for all involved, that was some ones quote and I have to believe that is what is going to happen. Seriously, congratulation to both carriers, I hope that they are happy together.



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3681 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 33682 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 7):
AA didn't need US but US obviously felt it needed US, and management and shareholders thinking of nothing but their pocketbooks have evidently bowed to increases pressures.

Let's not forget that the employees were also thinking about their pocketbooks.


User currently offlinecha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 784 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 33471 times:

Rip Dividend Miles and buying up to preferred.....


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16820 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 33373 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 7):
I am also saddened that we will be down to 3 legacy carriers in the US, and I cringe at the thought that any of "big 3" may try to merge in the coming future (which will no doubt someday occur). The variety that once adorned US airports is now all but gone, and I can only hope that this merger brings about greater stability to the industry if nothing else



While I agree that less legacies is bad, especially for the second tier hubs like CVG, MEM, STL, PIT etc., I am optimistic about new opportunities in the future. For instance B6 is thriving, and this merger means AA is not going to merge with B6, at least anytime soon. So we have B6 thriving, WN going to new places all the time, AS growing, Allegiant doing well, Spirit keeps growing, F9 at TTN (which is awesome as a Central Jersey guy) and maybe one day VX will start turning profits.

This AA/US merger will have divestitures somewhere, probably DCA, hopefully that opens up more opportunities for B6, WN, NK, VX etc..

The future US Domestic industry:

Legacy:

AA, DL, UA

LCC:

AS, B6, F9, NK, WN, G4, VX



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User currently offlinerising From United States of America, joined May 2010, 269 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 33310 times:

As long as its executed well, this is good news for the industry as a whole.

Just think, not long ago we had a litany of fragmented, poorly-managed airlines chasing market-share. Now, we look and see carriers who are large enough to have pricing power, can manage capacity smartly, are focused on making a profit, and can, at last, do what many thought was impossible: end the boom and bust cycles that have destroyed careers, wiped out investors, and lead to instability for airports and markets around the world.

Look for reports that this will be bad for consumers because it will raise prices. Perhaps, but now these carriers can finally charge an amount that will cover their cost of capital. Airlines are not non-profits or charities, and thankfully they are, for the most part, no longer being run as such. That is good news for airline employees.

Looking forward to seeing what the great people at AMR and US Airways Group do to form the world's largest airline.



If it doesn't make sense, it's because it's not true.
User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 577 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 33268 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 7):
This was one merger I sincerely hoped was not going to happen, even moreso than the UA-CO merger. AA doesn't need US to survive and thrive. This merger brings nothing to the table, AA is already strong over the Atlantic and in Latin America, what AA needs is a greater presence in Asia, which US, obviously, does not bring to the table.

  

I fully agree, and I still haven't come to terms with the fact that a merger is actually happening. Hopefully Doug Parker will choose to continue on the path that AA is currently moving along, and not revert back to the past. However, I find myself skeptical that will actually happen ...

Best of luck to a combined AA/US!



Choose a challenge over competence / Eleanor Roosevelt
User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 927 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 33151 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 11):
This AA/US merger will have divestitures somewhere, probably DCA, hopefully that opens up more opportunities for B6, WN, NK, VX etc..

Along with PHX as well



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User currently offlinePSAJet17 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 32934 times:

Every one of these news reports were all based on information "leaked" by sources who had to remain anonymous since the negotiations were supposed to be private.

Does the Department of Justice have to approve the merger?


User currently offlinerktsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 32796 times:

Quoting MrBuzzcut (Reply 5):
I hope the combined carrier is more AA and less US

I hope that this will NOT happened. Everyone loves to trash US, but the reality is that they are a good airline. I have flown all of them, and in the past few years US Airways has never lost or delayed a bag of mine, their ontime performance for MY flights have been excellent, I've never had a cancelled flight, and they have done right by me. Some of their planes are long in the tooth, but what about those Mad Dogs?!?

Quoting cha747 (Reply 10):
Rip Dividend Miles and buying up to preferred.....

Agreed. It's been a great program. I'm hoping the combination of lifetime miles from both airlines puts me over the million mile threshold, but as I understand it that doesn't mean anything anymore.


User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2241 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 32736 times:

Quoting cha747 (Reply 10):
Rip Dividend Miles and buying up to preferred.....

Every airline frequent flyer program out there is going down the tubes.



I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently onlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8212 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 32574 times:

Quoting rktsci (Reply 16):
I hope that this will NOT happened. Everyone loves to trash US, but the reality is that they are a good airline. I

  

As a *A FF in Boston, this means I have to go shopping for another FF program to join since without US, I can't travel up and down the coast without changing planes at either EWR or IAD.


User currently offlineRaddek From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 32178 times:
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And another Mega-Carrier in the USA is born.  

User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6204 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 32142 times:

I thought some of our more "knowledgeable" a.netters said this would never happen and this was all silly talk. Never say never in the airlines industry, it will make you look bad.


Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently onlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2442 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 31968 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 7):
This was one merger I sincerely hoped was not going to happen, even moreso than the UA-CO merger. AA doesn't need US to survive and thrive. This merger brings nothing to the table, AA is already strong over the Atlantic and in Latin America, what AA needs is a greater presence in Asia, which US, obviously, does not bring to the table. I am also saddened that we will be down to 3 legacy carriers in the US, and I cringe at the thought that any of "big 3" may try to merge in the coming future (which will no doubt someday occur). The variety that once adorned US airports is now all but gone, and I can only hope that this merger brings about greater stability to the industry if nothing else.


I can't agree with you more, especially in terms of the lack of variety that we're now going to see. At MKE there's only going to be 5 airlines now, and since F9 is going to be down to two flights a day it wouldn't be a surprise to see them pull out either. Since I go to school in Arizona I've grown accustomed to flying through PHX on US and its gonna be sad seeing the brand go away. Personally I'm crossing my fingers hoping that this deal somehow falls apart...   



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User currently offlineAcheron From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1596 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 31924 times:

So, AA A350XWB?.

Who saw that coming?.  


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3122 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 31788 times:

I wish the best to all the combined employees of the new AA, I then hope the best of each carrier is integrated to create an airline that will raise the bar a bit for legacies.


AA-AC-AQ-AS-BN-BD-CO-CS-DL-EA-EZ-HA-HP-KL-KN-MP-MW-NK-NW-OO-OZ-PA-PS-QX-RC-RH-RW-SA-TG-TW-UA-US-VS-WA-WC-WN
User currently offlinefrntman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 209 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 31603 times:

Quoting PSAJet17 (Reply 15):
Does the Department of Justice have to approve the merger?

I'd be willing to guess that the government relations departments at each airline have already vetted this with select members of the DOJ committee.


25 Deltal1011man : Why shouldn't they be? thats all Horton and Co give a flying crap about. Man, I hope people like you lose everything like airline employees have over
26 incitatus : I wrote that several times in a.net. But that is probably not the driving force. Let's wait for what gets written in the announcement. Likely the mar
27 texan : For better or worse, it shouldn't have difficulty passing the antitrust tests, partially because of past industry consolidation. The DOJ will raise c
28 spud757 : So will US be leaving *A for 1W? Can't see AA leaving 1W.
29 JBAirwaysFan : Isn't US still trying to solve problems from the HP merger?
30 Drmlnr1 : When will we see US join OW??? Will the announcement be webcasted?
31 rktsci : US Airways has demonstrated solid profitability in a challenging environments AND provided a return to shareholders in recent years of over 300%. Tha
32 flyawa : Booyah! In the 30th anniversary year of America West Airlines, the most successful carrier born out of deregulation, that merged with, and took on the
33 PHX787 : Well PHX is bracing for the worst but most of the people who I know working for the airport are expecting nothing too serious to happen. Reportedly, g
34 dlramp4life : I saw that news report as well, I would assume an uptick in service from UA and DL into PHX now...
35 AA94 : Yes, US will leave Star. Yep. ... and all that is well and good, but the fact remains that the HP/US integration isn't fully completed yet, as there
36 Post contains images PHX787 : Hopefully returning the CVG flight back to year-round
37 aaexecplat : To be fair...the recent returns are nearly entirely due to the speculation tat the merger would go through. If this merger had failed or if it still
38 Avi8r747 : Can anyone explain to me briefly how this will create the worlds largest airlines? Arn't United and Delta still larger??
39 coairman : Congratulations to both AA and US. This appears to be the final stage of the US Airline consolidation. Finally the industry as a whole can be more pro
40 SPREE34 : If you are referring to the separate cockpit crews, that ALL falls on USAPA.
41 piedmont727 : im happy about the merger and saddened by it sadly us airways name will go forever and my favorites PSA heritage and PIEDMONT heritage and also sadly
42 AeroWesty : Now that's funny! The airlines can barely make a $5 price hike stick, but at some undetermined time (tomorrow?), US/AA fares will rise 5% to/from PHX
43 PHX787 : Well a quick fare-search for a flight PHX-IND on March 29 shows $420, which with 5% added on would be a 21$ increase....still not much.
44 Jamake1 : Whatdaya know...PSA and Air Cal back together again after all these years.
45 yyz717 : A combined AA/US will immediately become the world's largest carrier and with it, the ability to drive down consolidated unit costs (once the merger
46 FL787 : Comparison of the new "Big 4" For 2012: RPMs UA: 205,484,567 AA/US: 136,560,266+64,880,446= 201,440,712 DL: 192,955,777 WN: 102,874,979 ASMs UA: 248,8
47 mah584jr : Cautiously optimistic here! Best of luck to all the employees!
48 silentbob : US has a solid, if unspectacular, network to Europe, especially in the summer. I think you will see growth internationally from the new carrier.
49 TWA772LR : I agree 100% that the US needs a more variety in legacy carriers. It gives way too much pricing power to the airlines to where it will hurt the consum
50 PacificF27 : Does anyone know roughly what percentage of the U.S. market the new "big 4" will have?
51 BigGSFO : Hilarious! I thought of that too.
52 alitalia744 : How's it looking on profit #s?
53 Flighty : While certain union master executive councils may not be fully satisfied, Wall St was completely satisfied. Therefore the matter is concluded. US is
54 Post contains links randyh3253 : American, United, Delta, and Southwest will control 83% of the U.S. market. http://money.cnn.com/2013/02/13/news...rger/index.html?source=yahoo_quote
55 Viscount724 : US serves 7 cities in Europe that AA doesn't serve: US also serves TLV which AA has never served. Europe - AMS/ATH/BRU/GLA/LIS/MUC/VCE. Some are seas
56 gigneil : Fortunately, the AA pilots + HP pilots will drastically outnumber the US pilots. That clusterf is over. NS
57 caliatenza : will fares go up substantially?
58 gigneil : They won't go up a dime. They have to contend with Delta, United, and Southwest - and increasingly others - in every major market. NS
59 AeroWesty : Two of the funniest things I've seen posted regarding the merger so far: "If I find my upgrade leads me to Boone's Farm in a plastic cup a la US-styl
60 Viscount724 : They could well go up in a few markets where AA will now have a monopoly on nonstop service, such as DFW-CLT and DFW-PHL.
61 gigneil : Right. US achieved record profits less than a year after merging with HP, and they consistently are #1 or #2 in margin every single quarter. Doug Park
62 Deltal1011man : Pretty much. Welcome to the US, because this is what matters. Profit and margins are going to the important thing looked at by the people that matter
63 silentbob : That right there is the bottom line.
64 Post contains images AY-MD11 : The A350XWB will look good in Americans colors!
65 C010T3 : Haha! I was defending the pocketbook's point of view. I'm all for the employees thinking about their pocketbooks. I just don't agree with accusing sh
66 Post contains images Deltal1011man : But they don't blame anyone but management. Why shouldn't they? Will Horton get a pension? how about what did he take cut wise? Had Horton taken cuts
67 RWA380 : What you wrote raises a good question. Will AA be able to continue operating the US flights into TLV without paying the money that has kept AA from s
68 vegas005 : If you are talking plastic cups and cheap wine in first, dirty planes, lousy hubs (Philadelphia), surly employees and his penchant for drinking and d
69 AeroWesty : Highly doubtful, in my opinion. In another thread, I asked aloud how long folks thought it would take to re-earn as profits the $20-30 million that's
70 mariner : I don't want to burst your bubble or sound cynical or anything and - assuming by "Gerry" you mean Mr. Grinstein - I don't wish to take anything away
71 RWA380 : Yes, I agree with you, maybe because they are keeping the American name. However would it be up to whos operating certificate survives? I hope they c
72 EA CO AS : Actually, AA could fly to TLV right now if they wanted to; they didn't purchase TW outright, but merely bought most of the assets and the majority of
73 Darksnowynight : No, we have too much legacy presence as it already is and will be. And I'm not seeing how prices can stay sustainably high. On all domestic & a g
74 gemuser : Rightly or wrongly the Israeli courts disagree with you. I understand , from previous threads, that there is a court judgement outstanding against AA
75 vegas005 : Thanks interesting info. As I live overseas I have limited exposure to US so maybe things have improved. My last flight was a year ago SFO-LAS and th
76 EA CO AS : Care to cite a source? Everything I've ever seen on the matter is that the Israeli workers were unsecured creditors in TW's bankruptcy, owed about $1
77 jfk787nyc : Who cares what United States Merger Laws entail - It is the Israeli government hold American Airlines responsible for TWA salaries. Now, Given that I
78 Post contains links commavia : Now official: http://aa.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=3628
79 Post contains links 777ER : Heres the official word http://aa.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=3628
80 727LOVER : Isnt AS a legacy? I know the AA name stays, but who exactly is the aquiring carrier?
81 thrufru : Maybe it's because I generally travel in uniform, and due to the amount of travelling I do positive space I've also managed to obtain elite status on
82 Post contains links EaglePower83 : www.aa.com/arriving I gotta say, they did a bang up job marketing their Valentine's Day marriage. Did you see the videos? They're very inspiring. WAYY
83 Post contains links randyh3253 : http://www.usairways.com/en-US/about...ssroom/newamerican.html?c=fb_21132
84 AAplat4life : This is wonderful news overall. The merger gives AA a clearer and better path to emerge from bankruptcy. The stand-alone, "five corner-stone" strategy
85 Post contains links randyh3253 : Per the merger website the new AA will indeed keep US's 1 daily flight to TLV http://newamericanarriving.com/customers/international-benefits/
86 Bralo20 : Strangely enough BRU is back as a destination from JFK on the merger site?
87 AussieItaliano : Well, let's be fair here. I wouldn't exactly call the First class wines of AA, UA or DL top notch either. As for dirty planes, I've been on some pret
88 scbriml : Clearly, AA's board sees it differently.
89 jAAy757 : I am indifferent about all of this, AA did need some of US east coast network, thats about it, but I am not opposed to an expanded all around network.
90 txkf2010 : Just throwing this out there but was in MIA yesterday and saw 7 or 8 US 734s with logos already stripped
91 Post contains images Darksnowynight : I think it's probable those a/c are likely being rotated out of the fleet. I know some were scheduled to go this year. Also, the merger is announced,
92 brilondon : I have read that AA creditors will own the majority of shares of the airline which I assume will eventually either be sold as common stock or to US.
93 Polot : They were good, but I laughed at how they were struggling to find historic "firsts" for US (first A330 in USA, first A321 in USA...) in the 'Stronger
94 Post contains images AllegiantFlyer : Im so glad to see in the press release that the combined airline will keep ALL hubs so this must include PHX im also glad to of been on the side of fe
95 LAXdude1023 : Is that sarcasm or naivety?
96 Post contains images commavia : I wouldn't hang my hat on that, or get too high-and-mighty yet. All airline merger press releases say that. History shows us how things often actuall
97 Post contains images iFlyLOTs : Well it took awhile for STL to fall.. I doubt it'll be as drastic as say a MEM or a CVG but I still have my money on "It's not going to be anywhere n
98 airbazar : Only time will tell but the way I see it this only makes the new carrier slightly stronger in the Eastern part of the US and TATL markets as neither
99 Mainland : You are correct, the breakdown is included in the joint press release. In summary: Existing AMR shareholders receive 3.5% of the new airline AA emplo
100 Post contains links skipness1E : http://www.americanairlines.co.uk/homePage.do?locale=en_GB&pref=true The marshaller in the photo is waving at an aircraft that's not actually ther
101 Post contains links Mainland : This is interesting now that it finds the light of day.... Filed this morning with the SEC is the presentation US Airways made to AMR creditors on Jan
102 Darksnowynight : I really, really, really hope you're right. Unfortunately, it's a bit early to call folks "sore losers" just yet. In every mega merger thus far, it h
103 AllegiantFlyer : The combined airline will also have a large presence of corporation office(s?)(in tempe im assuming) so could this be more of a hint that a de-hubbing
104 Mainland : They say they expect to close in the third quarter of this year, so that gives them 7 months on the high side. As reference, DL/NW took 6 months from
105 United787 : That same photo was used in an AA e-mail I just received...it shows a little more of the photo...the aircraft to the left in the distance has a new A
106 commavia : Slightly stronger? I would argue AA will now have arguably the best coverage of the eastern U.S. of any major airline. Huge hubs in ORD, PHL, CLT and
107 brandonfsu05 : I'm wondering if there will be any problems with the DOJ following UA/CO and DL/NW and SW/Air Tran. Will the DOJ approve this merger? Or is this going
108 BD338 : very interesting. The headline terms we see today are very close to those originally proposed 70/30 AA/US ownership, 11 member board etc. It's a well
109 DTW2HYD : ATT/TMobile was an exception, something to do with bad blood between ATT and FCC. As long as Arizona Representitives and Senators are happy there sho
110 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Delta and Northwest United and Continental American and US Air KLM and Air France This is probably the worst time in history for small businesses and
111 seansasLCY : The new carrier will be in Oneworld.
112 LAXdude1023 : It looks like this is your first merger you have followed. Guess what DL promised before the merger? You bet, fully fledged hubs in CVG and MEM. Gues
113 DeltaRules : Not a fan. This sucks. In a shallow way, I just wish that if one mega-merger had to have a bi-polar, "WHAT AIRLINE DO I WANT TO BE?" Continited-style
114 LDVAviation : With the mass on the East Coast the new AA will have, it will be able to grow organically in the US/Asia market. Currently, US is handing much of its
115 TWA1985 : It looks like those two "Love BIRDS" just couldn't resist coming together on Valentine's Day!
116 msp747 : PHX will most certainly get downsized, but I don't see how the new AA can cover the inter-mountain west without it. LAX doesn't have the room to expa
117 C010T3 : I really hope that Arizona keeps as much as possible in the combined company, but we all know that the New American will not piss off the Arizona cong
118 wingnutmn : What is US A330 seat configurations? The easiest way to expand to Asia is to fly the A330 on routes that 777 fly and put the 777 into Asia for expansi
119 YYCSpotter : I was hoping for the new AA to go to Star, not Oneworld. bummer. I will miss US's presence at YYC, aswell. More 737s with AA will add to the long list
120 Post contains images Bralo20 : Looking at the video on Youtube, maybe the new livery and logo were made for the merger after all?
121 seb146 : What does this do for historic routes? I had heard something long ago that if MIA-HAV opened, priority was given to PA. Since they have gone out, I ca
122 Flighty : Yes it makes US look like geniuses for trading away those LGA slots. They will now have all the LGA slots they ever would have wanted or needed in th
123 commavia : Truthfully I think AA now has the absolute best of both worlds in the northeast, and is better positioned there than Delta. AA will now have plentifu
124 jfk777 : Charlotte will see a decent expansion of Internationmal flights, 767, 777 and A330 type flights. IF DL can make ATL a huge gateway so can AA at CLT.
125 rampart : I'd have preferred perhaps 8-10 smaller airlines, well managed, pricing power in their own regions or strengths, maybe able to form alliances, and mo
126 Post contains images jpdflymhtmlb : Anyone else notice on US Airways' updated Facebook cover photo...the tail of the new American livery coming from the left hand side can be seen, but i
127 wingnutmn : Not to accuse you of looking through rosey goggles, but how do you see any of that happening? South American Gateway of MIA means just that, if you l
128 brandonfsu05 : I see CLT serving the position it does in AA as it has with US vs. PHL, except third fiddle. CLT will serve no unique destinations internationally in
129 Post contains images United787 : I did too, see below...A-Netters are usually all of this like a rumor from the brother-in-law of pilot's neighbor but not today...
130 mesaflyguy : I also recieved an email from US Airways today saying that both FF program will remain unchanged thankfully....at least for now. I hope it stays uncha
131 david_itl : Of course, it's the "lets trash a regional route because I've haven't clue why it's like this" moment. If MAN is an A330 it is because the market det
132 mah4546 : It's not "at least" for now. It's for now. Your Divident Miles will become AAdvantage Miles, probably within 24 months.
133 wingnutmn : Likewise, I see PHL as that role for JFK. I see JFK expanded internationally, and PHL relieving it. Any extra flow is split between MIA and ORD. I th
134 HPRamper : Slightly stronger? Arguably the strongest. Those aircraft in the distance are probably too far away for this marshaler to be guiding. The actual arri
135 IllinoisMan : This merger is bad news for PHX and AA FFs. Now the stink of US will taint one of the last remaining good airlines. To get a preview of how this will
136 silentbob : They could make that money back very quickly if they expand service and add JFK and MIA flights. Very interesting analysis and I suspect that you are
137 usairways85 : AA is not going to make CLT into a 800-1000 flt/day hub. ATL is Delta's main hub, DFW will be AA/US'. Highly doubt Iberia adds CLT-MAD, if CLT-MAD st
138 lightsaber : Allergian, B6, F9, and Spirit have to be salivating at the better profit potential post-merger. I would expect WN to take advantage of the increased f
139 Post contains links RyanairGuru : Absolutely, I'll give Doug the benefit of the doubt and say that this was a genius move. Just so long as AA agreed to merge then he could keep NYC, a
140 LAXdude1023 : Thanks for the laugh. CLT is not ATL.
141 oc2dc : I'm feeling a bit indifferent about this merger. On the one hand, AA will now have a huge presence on the eastern part of the U.S. and have a few new
142 HPRamper : Well...both of you have a point. CLT is smaller than ATL but its main roadblock to becoming an international hub like ATL is not its size, but the pr
143 mah4546 : Where on earth has that been said? US/AA isn't stupid. It knows it needs to up to AA's standards. It's about to become the world's largest airline -
144 usairways85 : Frankly AA has more rust bucket MD80s than US has old planes. US has: 10 762s that will quickly exit once the merger goes through 32 734s that will p
145 aacun : Although I joined late in the game, the AA employee presentation by both Mr. Horton and Mr. Parker just finished. It really looked like 2 old friends
146 aacun : Although I joined late in the game, the AA employee presentation by both Mr. Horton and Mr. Parker just finished. It really looked like 2 old friends
147 realsim : CLT-MAD on IB is not going to happen. With US being part of AA/IB JV, all the smaller markets can be reached through JFK, PHL, ORD, DFW and MIA. More
148 commavia : THRILLED is not a strong enough word to describe how I feel about that. Let's hope he means it (and I don't doubt he does).
149 tommy767 : I agree. They did a bang up job on the merger website. Puts UA to shame as they didn't roll out hub.united.com months into the merger.
150 RyanairGuru : Absolutely, MAN is a safe destination for the new carrier. Let's not forget that US are the bellweather operator on MAN-USA, having never flinched se
151 WhiteWasp : So, Is the new merger going to stay OneWorld or Star Alliance? I really didn't want to see the merger happen. I'm partial to US Airways. My hometown a
152 Lanas : Argentina has a Jewish population, but don't know how big it would be, compared to others. I believe Brazil does as well, in Sao Paulo, if I'm not mi
153 Lanas : In their merger website it states that it will be OneWorld.
154 Post contains images Maverick623 : Implying that US hasn't learned those lessons. Further implying that mergers are generally smooth. With the exception of DL and NW, they're not. This
155 flyfree727 : You recall correctly.. The question was asked from an admirals club/concierge key representative, who wanted to know what equilivant services were of
156 mah4546 : Buenos Aires has one of the world's largest Jewish communities; Sao Paulo also has a sizeable Jewish population. TLV should be served, IMO, daily fro
157 RyanairGuru : I've heard stories of that flight going out 100% full in J even if lightly loaded in the back (in February, for example). Also, it does quite well -
158 usairways85 : Without getting OT into the specific numbers of the Jewish/Israeli population of the PHL area but as you suggested it is likely that PHL is attractin
159 Post contains images Maverick623 : IIRC, doesn't American have to pony up some money to start serving TLV again, because of the TWA issues? Oh trust me I can tell you some stories abou
160 RyanairGuru : Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. I guess this could help build a case for MIA-TLV, although I note that going via LHR/CDG is 2000mi shorter.
161 usairways85 : Ah, I knew it was one of the Pharma's but I wasn't sure which one.
162 mah4546 : The fact that Miami-Tel Aviv is the single busiest trans-Atlantic city pair without non-stop service (it and SFOROM) builds a case all on its own.
163 AirplaneFan : Hopefully this new merger between AA and US will bring in some new orders for Boeing 747-8's.
164 PanAmPaul : I see to recall that AA had some sort of problem relating back to TWA which had kept it from offering the TLV service. I wonder if that has to be res
165 Post contains links Viscount724 : According to the pie chart on page 6 of this document: http://www.jewishdatabank.org/Reports/World_Jewish_Population_2010.pdf Argentina has the 7th l
166 gigneil : They very, very obviously were. Its hard to argue - US was already the largest carrier East of the Mississippi by a decent margin. Now there's no que
167 oc2dc : Do you really think US is going to change overnight and have their standards on par with AA? No, not a chance. That will take years. According to the
168 caliatenza : Will there be any new destinations in South or South East Asia, or Asia in general? Or will the OneWorld partners handle that?
169 gigneil : Not real long, is my guess.... they have a large number of new planes being delivered. And the envoy cabins are pretty nice right now. You know why?
170 flyfree727 : The "soft product" can be changed in a matter of weeks! glassware, introduction of meals on non- current meal flights etc will not take "years" to ch
171 usairways85 : This is one area where AA/US will still lag far behind DL and UA
172 joeman : To bad US didn't treat PIT and AA STL the same way DL does CVG and CO/UA CLE. The new entity AA would be offering substantial service above the compet
173 IllinoisMan : Well then I can only hope that AA honors it's frequent flyer points. US's points are worthless and their treatment of frequent flyers are terrible. H
174 RyanairGuru : Funny you should mention these two, I just remembered that PIT-STL is still flown by US. BOS, BDL, LGA, RDU and STL were retained, albeit with USEx.
175 Post contains links PanAmPaul : There is a huge amount of work ahead of them in order to integrate the two airlines. Some of it may sound rather silly at times. I was just reminded
176 Post contains links and images Revelation : US er AA thinks that is all sorted: Of course, one should not underestimate the ability of the pilots to screw things up.
177 PHX787 : This looks like it could be a disaster... "US aircraft to be flown by US pilots, AA aircraft to be flown by AA pilots." What about new aircraft, seni
178 MAH4546 : Read the header above those bullet points.
179 flyfree727 : Its less than 24 hrs since the merger was officially ANNOUNCED! I don't think you ( or us) are included in the "need to know" at this point. details
180 MrBuzzcut : So in reality, it will be AA flies AA aircraft -East fly East aircraft -West fly West aircraft for up to three years, then they get to fight it out?
181 Post contains images Darksnowynight : True, but it does look like a pretty good deal. With the way the industry looks, they'd be foolish to try and torp' this. Damn straight!
182 EaglePower83 : THANK YOU THANK YOU! If this is really the case, then I am very enthusiastic about this merger. I'm glad Doug was able to notice what did not work at
183 Post contains links AeroWesty : Didn't know where else to post this. A number of interesting, clickable-to-expand graphics regarding numbers for the hubs, fleet, and passengers for A
184 Post contains images Maverick623 : No different than what US is doing today with the East and West pilot groups. It won't be an operational disaster, although other types of disasters
185 aacun : There is already an interim cross interline program in place effective March01 that applies to AA employee travel on US and vice versa. If this is an
186 Maverick623 : I believe that it's just a reduced ZED-fare type deal. US has one of the best employee non-rev programs, AA one of the worst in terms of cost to the
187 Post contains images brilondon : The US seniority list could just be stapled to the bottom of the AA seniority list, ala the TWA merger?
188 AA767400 : Wishful thinking - but not going to happen.
189 PanAmPaul : Given that the circumstances of this merger are very different than the TWA "merger" (where AA bought assets out of BK), it's not really likely to ha
190 Rising : One thing US Airways is good at is running a reliable operation. Scott Kirby frequently mentions that nothing is more costly than running a bad operat
191 oc2dc : One of the worst in terms of cost to the employee? Where did you hear that? If you work for AA and you flew on AA metal, the cost is minimal to nothi
192 nwcoflyer : All travel, domestic or international is free on US- regardless of length of service. If Envoy is open it is a 100 dollar upgrade fee for internation
193 AA767400 : I can tell you from experience that DL and US have far less expensive fees for employees compared to AA. AA charges you an arm and a leg for any seat
194 Maverick623 : Plus free spouse travel, or, if unmarried, a "registered guest" can take the place of the spouse, although the RG does cost a little bit in taxes (vi
195 brilondon : Hopefully the integration will go much smoother than the HP/US merger, BTW has that finally be completed?
196 PHX787 : Last I heard it was still "east and west" but when this merger gets completed, apparently it's all going to be integrated under one system
197 nwcoflyer : Exactly Maverick, we have it pretty good. I am actually sitting in F class right now headed to DCA. And didn't pay anything. It's a pretty good deal
198 Post contains links Revelation : Yes, it's all sorted, see #174 above. Basically, everyone is going to get the current AA terms, which is a step up for both US East and West pilots.
199 crj900lr : Mainline = yes Express = No, our Express operation is terrible, we will weed out the carriers that are not preforming and have a respectible regional
200 oflanigan : With that said, what happens to the wholly owned carriers. PSA has CRJ-700's and could easily dump the 200's for more 70 seaters. Piedmont could use
201 silentbob : They all go away within 3 years.
202 crj900lr : PSA will be there, possibly with more 700's. Piedmont is slowly winding down its flying operation. The Dash-8's are starting to come to the end of the
203 mesaflyguy : This may be the wrong place to ask this, but what will happen to PHL-ISP and the other smaller routes from Philly that have almost completely Piedmon
204 crj900lr : All the routes will be looked at and the adjustments that need to be made will be. I wouldn't worry about the DASH service to ISP or other cities bei
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