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AA 757 Crashes Into Pentagon  
User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Posted (13 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

Local DC news is reporting that the aircraft that crashed into the Pentagon was an American 757. They were reporting that survivors from the Pentagon (and perhaps the aircraft) have been taken to the Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington, VA. Officials have declined the possibility of biological weapons in the attack.

More information as it comes in...

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User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

American Airlines and DC's ABC 7 is now confirming that the plane was AA 77, IAD-LAX, a Boeing 757.

Fire is still burning at the Pentagon, and it has spread pretty far around the structure. Word from the local newsies is that the plane impacted the building and exploded. It was not until about 30 minutes later that the section of the Pentagon collapsed from structural failure.

High-ranking officials are said to have been on the other side of the building from the crash.

More details as they come in...


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

AA has released the following number to call if you believe you might have family aboard any of their aircraft that have crashed. The number is: (800) 245-0999.

PLEASE--ONLY CALL IF YOU HAVE FAMILY ON THE FLIGHTS THAT CRASHED.

More information as it becomes available...


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Reports now coming in on WUSA 9 here in Washington are that there are dead in the Pentagon, and all aboard the AA 757 are presumed dead.

User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4346 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2194 times:

It's very mad world today.

Kevin-Arlington, VA



User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

FOX 5 is now reporting that an eyewitness saw the 757 fly over his head and crash into the Pentagon. Seconds later, a four-engine propeller plane (he said) flew through the smoke from the crash and veered off.

26 injured at Virginina Hospital Center, 7 injured at Washington Hospital Center, 2 in the ER at George Washington Hospital, not critical. So reports ABC 7.

More reports to come...


User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2124 times:

Folks,

If no further planes have been hijacked, we now know that a United B767 (UAL 175) first crashed into the WTC, then an American B767. An American B757 hit the Pentagon, and a United B757 (UAL 93) crashed near Pittsburgh. Apart from the United B767, these crashes and locations have been confirmed. The United B767 is a (logical) conclusion as far as no further passenger planes have been hijacked.

Hope this is the end of the attacks and not just a break.

Daniel


User currently offlineSonic99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2118 times:


What were the two that crashed into the World Trade Centre towers? There are conflicting reports about that. Where they both AA flights?


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2106 times:

WUSA 9 has an interview from an employee on his way to the USA Today building in Rosslyn...He is saying that the plane flew just a few feet over the highway, impacted the west side of the Pentagon, and exploded, first in a cloud of white smoke, and then a massive cloud of black smoke that covered the area. He positively identified the aircraft as an American passenger jet, from the silver skin and the red-white & blue markings around the windows.

There were 58 passengers, 4 flight attendants and 2 flight crew aboard the aircraft. All are presumed dead.

WUSA is also reporting now that there was "a massive intelligence failure" in the government. It was explicitly stated just now that the government knew that this might happen and blew it.


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2092 times:

ABC NEWS is now confirming (on the FBI's word) that the 757 that crashed into the Pentagon was, indeed, AA flt. 77, IAD-LAX.

The aircraft that crashed into the South tower of the WTC (the first crash) was United flt. 175, a 767. The aircraft that crashed into the North tower was American flt. 11, another 767. This is being reported by ABC NEWS.

More details to come...


User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

I would like to know why the pilots didn't try to divert or crash the planes befre they hit the buildings. Unless the terrorists are flying the planes then think they should've crashed into the ground or into the water before it hit the Pentagon and the WTC. The UAL 757 that crashed was supposed to hit the Capitol building but crashed short. Hey; Your going to die anyway so might as well save the people in the WTC and the Pentagon. If the pilots figured it out this way then the casuatly rates would not be in the thousands and the chances of surviviors on the planes would be high. How the terrorists mangaged to get on board the 4 planes is outrageous!!!!! This proves that airlines still are not following up on security. This is badand I hope that the Federal Government is investigating AA and UAL like no tomorrw this should not have happened . I've seen the area and the area where the WTC was is just a crater with piles of wreakage still around. I pray that no one I know are inside. I pray that the fatalies don't go into the thousands. There is defiantly a break down in the US Gov and the two airlines in security!!!! THis is abominable. It still outrages me that to this day security is being taken as a joke and since the hard lessons of PA 103, WTC bombing in 1993, Oklahoma, US Embassy Bombing that we are unable to potect people from such faceless cowards bent on distruction!!!


I hope Bush bombs these bastards in retaliation!!!!! I still can't reach friends or fam in the area. The WTC is gone both towers have collapsed. Hundreds and thousands are dead, serously injured or MIA.

This is New York's Pearl Harbor. God help us all



"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2054 times:

VA340,

I know that you know best of all that this is Pan Am 103 carried out to the next level. We knew this was coming, even if the FBI and CIA didn't know it was happening right now (let's discount this report, because it might be garbage). The FAA sat on their lazy, money-bought rear ends and dragged ass on domestic security, even when we knew that terrorists could do this. Even when we saw our own aircraft blown up over Lockerbie. Even when the NTSB's own security report showed that bringing bombs and guns onto domestic passenger aircraft was not only possible, but easy.

We knew that the FAA was corrupt from the ValuJet disaster. We knew that they were a bunch of incompetent bureaucrats. And yet, nothing was done. Nothing.

This is all I'm going to say on the matter on this thread, because it is meant to inform people who aren't in Washington just what's going on right now and not a debate (plenty of other threads for that), but it's clear: Our government has screwed up yet again, causing hundreds of innocent airline passengers' lives and thousands of lives in the Pentagon and World Trade Center. How much longer will we allow this to go on?


User currently offlineLuckySevens From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

VirginA340,
What is more than likely is that the pilots were executed when the plane was hijacked. No sane pilot would fly into a building....even with a gun held to their head.


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

WUSA 9 is currently reporting that the Pentagon fire has now erupted again and is still not yet under control. The roof around the collision site is expected to be burning off soon.

More to come...


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

ABC 7 is reporting at this hour that the AA 757 did not, as first reported, hit a part of the Pentagon that was unoccupied, but a section that was heavily occupied.

Virginia Hospital Center is reporting 30 injured from the Pentagon, Washington Hospital Center is reporting 5 in critical condition, GW Hospital is reporting 2 in the ER, and INOVA is reporting 12 injured, with 9 in fair condition.

More to come...


User currently offlineAlexander From Russia, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

is there any info how many people day in pentagon

User currently offlineAlexander From Russia, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1981 times:

is there any info how many people day in pentagon

User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

No word on any death toll at the Pentagon as of yet. However, all aboard the AA 757 are presumed dead. At this time, there are no known survivors from the aircraft.

From eyewitness accounts on several of the local TV stations (but WUSA 9, in particular), this is what happened:

The 757 came down low over one of the highways that surround the Pentagon, skimming it by just a few feet. A witness reported hearing suddenly something on the order of a "sonic boom", and then seeing the aircraft pass over at low height. Just before the aircraft reached the Pentagon, it banked hard right and collided with the ground, right wingtip first. (This is why you're probably not seeing long collision lines on the side of the Pentagon where the wings would have hit--they never hit there).

Again, an eyewitness reported an immediate cloud of white smoke upon collision, then a tremendous plume of black smoke that covered the entire area around the Pentagon.

The aircraft then cartwheeled into the Pentagon's lower three floors, driving all the way through the structure and into the open courtyard in the middle of the Pentagon structure. The debris is reported as being strewn all throughout the courtyard.

Several minutes later, perhaps as much as a half hour, the upper 2-3 floors collapsed from the lack of support underneath, leaving a full opening in the side of the building.

This is the best information that I have at this time. More to come.


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

ABC NEWS is now reporting that the wife of the Solicitor General (who defended Bush during the election scandal) was killed aboard American 77, which was the IAD-LAX 757 that apparently was flown into the Pentagon.

They are also reporting that she was able to place a cell phone call to her husband moments before the crash, reporting that the terrorists were herding all of the passengers into the back of the plane.

More to come...


User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3871 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

The pilot's were probably dead before the plane's crashed because, if they were alive during the actual crash, then there would have probably been some last minute attempt to steer the plane away and into New York Harbor.

User currently offlineTimvasquez From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Why is there no video of the Pentagon crash?

I seriously doubt the "sonic boom" report as the redline speed on commercial jets is around 400 kts, well short of the 600+ kts needed at sea level to go supersonic. I'm not an engineering expert but I bet the airplane would have disintegrated past 500 kts.

Tim




User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

I seriously doubt the "sonic boom" report as the redline speed on commercial jets is around 400 kts, well short of the 600+ kts needed at sea level to go supersonic. I'm not an engineering expert but I bet the airplane would have disintegrated past 500 kts.

It was not a sonic boom. This we pretty much know. However, the witness said that it sounded like a sonic boom, and I believe him. Think about this: if a large jet aircraft flying at 250-300 kph flies over your head suddenly, without warning, at a distance of only a few mere feet, what do you think it might sound like? Especially when the individual witness probably isn't an aviation buff, but just a regular Joe...I'd say it would sound like a large boom, also.

There probably hasn't been video of the Pentagon crash because was no reason to have a camera focused (or turned on, even) on the Pentagon at that time. Whereas in NYC, one plane had already crashed into the WTC, thereby giving the media a reason to have their cameras focused on that scene.

We might see amateur tape of the Pentagon crash, but I doubt it.


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1894 times:

Local news has released the following phone number for relatives of the victims of UA 93 and 175: (800) 932-8555.

Again, please only call this number IF YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE RELATIVES ABOARD THESE FLIGHTS. Thank you.

More reports to come.


User currently offlineSonic99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

From all the reports I've seen and heard throughout the course of the day it seems to me that this whole terrorist operation was a systematically planned attempt at beheading the US political, economic, and military establishments with incredible precision and quite obviously well-thought out and very well planned sequence of events.

First the World Trade Centre - representative of Corporate America

Second - the Pentagon

Third - (possibly) Camp David: if political leaders were to escape from a possible attempt to crash an aircraft into the White House where else would the political leaders probably go? = Camp David.

This series of events is absolutely sickening.

My heartfelt and sincerest sympathies to families and friends of this incredibly cowardly and inhumane act of terrorism.

S


User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

NBC NEWS is now reporting that Frasier producer David Angel was aboard one of the four aircraft that crashed. No word on which aircraft.

NBC also just reported that the name of the UA flight attendant on UA 93 who phoned in the report of the hijack on that plane was C.C. Myers. She was calling her husband in Florida, who is a law enforcement official.

It was also reported that the wife of the Solicitor General phoned twice off AA 77 to her husband, reporting the hijack on that aircraft.

More to come...


25 N202PA : ABC NEWS is now reporting that just before UA 93 crashed in Pennsylvania, it requested a change of ATC clearance for a flight path to the Washington a
26 N202PA : FOX 5 here in DC is now reporting that local officials are expecting around 100 dead at the Pentagon. This, presumably, does not include those killed
27 N202PA : ABC NEWS is now reporting that an Arlington County fire chief is reporting that more than 800 may be dead in the Pentagon. This is a preliminary figur
28 Gocaps16 : Thanks for posting these info. I live in Arlington Co., VA and about a mile from the Pentagon. Around 7pm, I walked to the Pentagon to check out thesi
29 N202PA : Kevin, This is a real tragedy for all Americans, but I think for us Washingtonians, it really hits home. Never before has anything of this magnitude o
30 Gocaps16 : I hear yea...Very tragic indeed. This day nobody will forget. god bless the people who died on thep lane and on the ground. RIP Trade Center. Kevin/DC
31 N202PA : 4:00 AM in the Nation's Capital. All's quiet on the western front, and there is no news to report at this hour. The magnitude of these disasters, both
32 N202PA : Back with more information from Washington, D.C... ABC NEWS has just reported that the death toll at the Pentagon is now expected to be around 200. Th
33 N202PA : ABC 7 just reported a scare at the Pentagon...moments ago, people started running away from the building at full force after someone reported an aircr
34 N202PA : WUSA 9 just reported that estimates of the dead at the Pentagon have now dropped further, to around 100. I have no knowledge of whether this is a seri
35 Post contains links N202PA : The latest: a link to a very incomplete list of victims from the four air crashes and the destruction of the WTC: http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo
36 N202PA : ABC NEWS is now reporting that most, if not all of the terrorists aboard the aircraft were Egyptian and Saudi Arabian nationals. Information about two
37 N202PA : FOX 5 and CBS NEWS are now reporting that SWAT teams and bomb squads have just stormed Boston Westin-Copley hotel. Presumably, this is part of the sea
38 N202PA : CBS NEWS is now reporting that the phone call from the 31 year old man aboard UA 93, the 757 that crashed in rural Pennsylvania, included a descriptio
39 N202PA : FOX 5 is now reporting that suspects are in custody in Massachussetts and that the FBI is leading a raid on another hotel outside Boston. They are rep
40 N202PA : ABC NEWS is now reporting that arrests have been made at the Boston hotel that they stormed. They are reporting that the FBI knew of two rooms in the
41 Flashmeister : MSNBC reporting that there is credible evidence that the original target of the Pentagon plane was the White House.
42 N202PA : Thanks for that update, Flashmeister. Breaking news...ABC NEWS is now reporting that a Bush spokesman is saying on the record that they have reason to
43 N202PA : Further confirmation...ABC NEWS is reporting that the statement from the White House confirms that they believe that the plane which crashed into the
44 Flashmeister : They said that the information came from Cell Phones onboard... They told the pax where they were going. They were told to call loved ones to inform t
45 Flashmeister : Sorry, forgot to include attribution: NBC News
46 Jaysit : Flashmeister: What do you mean the "pilots werent as good as we thought?" I happened to know one of the pilots on board AA 77, and he was as good if n
47 N202PA : Jaysit, Please relax. I think what he probably meant was that it may have been that the pilots were not at the controls after the hijack occurred. The
48 N202PA : CBS NEWS is now reporting that the FBI has not made any arrests in connection with the terrorist acts yesterday. Dan Rather was very clear in stating,
49 N202PA : ABC NEWS is reporting that the FBI has stopped an Amtrak train from Boston to Washington in Providence, where it has searched all passengers. They hav
50 N202PA : FOX 5 here in Washington just broke the story that building 5 of the World Trade Center, One Liberty Plaza, is near collapse. There is a potential gas
51 Flashmeister : Jaysit: Let me clarify: Maybe the terrorist pilots weren't as good as we thought.
52 N202PA : MSNBC just reported that the Millennium Building in NYC is also on the verge of collapse. That is in addition to building five of the WTC. More as it
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