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Changing Currents- Caribbean Aviation Thread 104  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 22517 times:

Greetings once again to all A.net patrons and welcome to the first Caribbean Aviation Thread of 2013!


This is our 104th instalment and I must thank all our contributors and silent observers for religiously continuing to support the thread. That said, our regional aviation industry climate is always spiced with its fair share of conspicuous developments. The past several months have proven to be quite eventful with start-ups, shutdowns, pullouts and we can never forget politicking. That said, as we continue through the new year, let this be a year of measured and sustainable development for the Caribbean aviation industry; no matter how small that development may be.



******NEWS FEED******
GEO and China sign US$130M airport expansion deal
VS using A333 on BGI and ANU rotations; more 744 EC services to be replaced
BW DHC8's all retired and being ferried to CYYC
BW B763s operating to JFK/YYZ more frequently; even used on LGW route (ETOPS 180min?)
Dominica becomes shareholder in LI
BW accorded GEO flag carrier status with nonstop JFK and YYZ services
FlyJamaica successfully launches KIN-JFK service after hiccups
EZjet dies a hostile death; GOG using $200,000 bond to reimburse pax affected
LI orders six new ATR-42-600s; first to come in June 2013
LI orders two new ATR-72-600s via Air Lease Corp; coming in June/August
VS to cut 1x weekly LGW-TAB B744 route in May 2013
BW to get 3rd B763 in Q3 of 2013. Expected from the Far East.
CM increases POS-PTY from daily to 12 weekly eith E190
DAE to add 6 ATR-72s to their fleet for expansion. (ex American Eagle)
DL discontinues it's once lucrative JFK-GEO nonstop
WS makes POS daily year-round with the B73G



Happy Posting!!


It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 22519 times:

One thing foir sure 2013 will be a very interesting year for Carib aviation.

What is the REAL reason for DL dropping GEO? Rumors abound...some focus on sloppy management at GEO, exposing airlines to drug trafficking.

Competition on the YYZ POS route froim West jet. How will this impact BW, now that Westjet has committed to the route on a year round basis?

BW monopoly on the JFK GEO route. Will any competitors jump in? What will the Guyana govt do to off set the embarrassment of losing a major carrier? indeed the only global brand to serve GEO when it plans a vastly expanded terminal.


Will PY emerge as a new competitor on GEO North Ameican routes, thereby keeping out the majors who will be loathe to get into a fare war? They have previously spoken about 767 service to YYZ and JFK via GEO, and indeed those routes will only work if routed this way.

Will GORTT finally allow BW management to run the airline instead of interfering?

LIAT with new planes, hopefully changing its much maligned image.

DAE fighting with Insel Air. Is there room for both with DAE's rapid expansion?

Fly Jamaica. Will its be another Ezjet/Redjet?


User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 22474 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 1):

Hmmm I can see LI charging for bags or extra "fuel" fees!
I'm also curious to see this DAE vs. Insel fight!
Jetblue taking over the caribbean from SJU
I think we can't expect much from CM this year!
PY vs. BW can be also "mortal kombat"


cheers from GCM !  

PS: BW424 you should come to GCM, looots of trinis expats here, when I arrived I though "wow many indians they're so far from home!!!!..... and then just remembered, oops no, hey I'm on the west indies..... went to the KFC and asked the cashier :" lady from where you come from?" she said right away Trinidad, and u? "Brazil"? whaaat it's carnival!!! what are you doing here?" LOL I missed the caribbean people and its english! sometimes can't get a word of it!  Smile

[Edited 2013-02-14 17:10:07]

User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2567 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 22310 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 2):
I think we can't expect much from CM this year!

PTY-GEO before PTY-BGI?
CM taking over Cayman Airways GCM-PTY?
CM making it to SCU?
Of course I can't forget long awaited PTY-BZE hopefully (for real) happening this year.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 22261 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 1):
Rumors abound

That they do

Quoting guyanam (Reply 1):
some focus on sloppy management at GEO, exposing airlines to drug trafficking.

But this is not the REAL reason.....

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
PTY-GEO before PTY-BGI?

Not likely....I see BGI first. They are engaged with CM unlike the folks at GEO. With CM it is a checklist process....you have to address all of their concerns and that takes gobs of time. BGI is on that road....

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
CM taking over Cayman Airways GCM-PTY?

KX loads / yields were horrible and they are not bringing back the flight. Why the lack of success is puzzling but it would definitely give CM pause.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
Of course I can't forget long awaited PTY-BZE hopefully (for real) happening this year.

Thanks for the cheerleading!



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2567 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 22246 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
KX loads / yields were horrible and they are not bringing back the flight. Why the lack of success is puzzling but it would definitely give CM pause.

So were DAE CUR-PTY and Constellation T&T POS-CUR-PTY yields before CM started PTY-CUR and PTY-POS. Code-share or not, there are PTY routes which wouldn't work unless flown by CM metal, GCM happens to be one of those.
KX should have negotiated w/CM, let CM fly to GCM and sell the seats thru CM own website/reservations bearing the KX code-share.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineBigMac From Suriname, joined Nov 2003, 319 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 22236 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 1):
Will PY emerge as a new competitor on GEO North Ameican routes, thereby keeping out the majors who will be loathe to get into a fare war? They have previously spoken about 767 service to YYZ and JFK via GEO, and indeed those routes will only work if routed this way.

It seems PY is unable to get rid of their A340 and will have to keep it until 2014. They will seek 2 replacements, either a Boeing 777, 767, or A330.
Additionally, PY will receive a 3rd 737 this quarter (when exactly I don't know). GEO-JFK is on the table but is not a priority (as in do not count on it anytime soon).

Personally, I've been flying PY recently instead of BW on the PBM-MIA route. The flight (including stop) is shorter, the departure/arrival times are better, and you get a nice meal(s). The only problem with PY's 737 are that they are old (interior), there's no IFE of any kind (which doesn't matter to me at all), the seat pitch is a little tighter compared to BW, and there's no online check-in option on the PBM-MIA route.

Below are some pictures I took on BW 484 (POS-MIA) 3.5 months ago (I don't have a registration but it seems to be one of the newer birds):

Notice the F seat is exactly the same as AA's last gen F seat


Huge amount of legroom, couldn't even touch the bulkhead


The menu


Fresh fruit


Herb omelette



To fly, or not to fly: that is the question
User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 22178 times:

Quoting BigMac (Reply 6):

What will PY use its 3rd 737 for? Given that Surinam is poorly integrated into the neighboring countries there are only but so mnay places that they can serve, and it appears as if the existing fleet meets that need.

If PY misses the opportunity to do a GEO JFK route now they might not get another chance. I predict that some one will come and, as we know, this is a two airline route only. BW is too established to be dislodged now that they have nonstops. A new US brand (Jetblue?) will have their own prestige factor.

In fact even Westjet might look at YYZ GEO (if their fleet have the range) if their POS route does well. YYZ is an even tighter route than JFK is.


User currently offlineturk223 From Barbados, joined Aug 2003, 396 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22138 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
Not likely....I see BGI first.

...from you mouth to Copa's ears


User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1739 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22122 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 7):
I predict that some one will come

Let me get some suggestions to fly the route.


User currently offlineCaymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22113 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 2):

Welcome to Grand Cayman! You shouldn't travel down this end and not tell me!

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 4):
KX loads / yields were horrible and they are not bringing back the flight. Why the lack of success is puzzling but it would definitely give CM pause.

Its not puzzling at all. They didn't promote the flight, it was not timed for connections, there weren't enough frequencies, and the build up time was mere weeks. They also got none of the business traffic because they didn't give businesses time to prepare for the non-stops and they didn't organise the cooperative contracts with health providers to carry medical traffic. If they do it properly, it will do well.

Theyre doing the same foolishness with LCE and this 1x weekly thing will lose them a lot of business.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6039 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22104 times:

Quoting Caymanair (Reply 10):
Theyre doing the same foolishness with LCE and this 1x weekly thing will lose them a lot of business.


Isn't LCE 2Xweekly?



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineCaymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 22101 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 11):

Its 2x weekly now, but if you look at their summer schedule it drops to Friday only. Not good.


User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days ago) and read 21758 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 7):
In fact even Westjet might look at YYZ GEO (if their fleet have the range) if their POS route does well. YYZ is an even tighter route than JFK is.

No, their airplanes will not be able to operate YYZ-GEO.



Maintain own separation with terrain!
User currently offline9YCAL From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 21753 times:

Inbound, any word on the third B763 for CAL?

User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2567 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 21690 times:

Quoting Inbound (Reply 13):
No, their airplanes will not be able to operate YYZ-GEO.

GEO (06°29'55"N 58°15'15"W) YYZ (43°40'38"N 79°37'50"W) 337° (NW) 2870 mi
MVD (34°50'18"S 56°01'51"W) PTY (09°04'17"N 79°23'00"W) 329° (NW) 3385 mi
From www.gcmap.com
Are you sure? B737-700 seems to have the range.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 21666 times:

Quoting Caymanair (Reply 10):
Theyre doing the same foolishness with LCE and this 1x weekly thing will lose them a lot of business.

I was on the LCE flight, out of 50 pax, 20 were on FUNTRIP, local travel agents of GCM trying to promote the destination for KX, they wanted to film me etc... WTF? I had to ruuuush to the ferry boat sorry, maybe next tiiime LOL!

Quoting Caymanair (Reply 10):


Welcome to Grand Cayman! You shouldn't travel down this end and not tell me!

hahahha LOL, had lots of fun in GCM but man itIS expensive.  


User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 21599 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 2):
PS: BW424 you should come to GCM, looots of trinis expats here, when I arrived I though "wow many indians they're so far from home!!!!..... and then just remembered, oops no, hey I'm on the west indies..... went to the KFC and asked the cashier :" lady from where you come from?" she said right away Trinidad, and u? "Brazil"? whaaat it's carnival!!! what are you doing here?" LOL I missed the caribbean people and its english! sometimes can't get a word of it!  

haha...yes, eventually one day when I find the time.

Quoting Inbound (Reply 13):
No, their airplanes will not be able to operate YYZ-GEO.

That begs the question...how is the 2x weekly GEO-YYZ service doing in terms of loads?



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 21496 times:

Air Jamaica Shuttle suspends flights

Jamaica Air Shuttle previously operated between Kingston's Tinson Pen Aerodrome and Sangster International Airport in Montego Bay as well as scheduled service to Cayman Brac, Port-au-Prince in Haiti and Santiago de Cuba in Cuba.

The airline on Monday suspended flight operations until further notice and its 25 employees have been laid off.

The developments at Jamaica Air Shuttle come four months after the airline added a fourth weekly flight between Kingston and Port au Prince, Haiti.

Statement from their Facebook page

Dear Valued Jamaica Air Shuttle customers,

Regrettably, Jamaica Air Shuttle has not been spared the rigors of the prevailing toxic global economic climate that has sent the biggest and strongest of airlines scrambling for solutions to the challenges of skyrocketing operating costs and contracting margins.

Effective Monday, February 18, 2013 we will have to suspend flight operations while we renegotiate a sustainable operating model that will assure the Company of the viability sufficient to continue to provide the level of safe, reliable, punctual and courteous service that you have come to expect and deserve.

We are eternally grateful to our growing core of loyal customers that have supported and promoted us since inception, and we assure you of our continued commitment and loyalty to you. We ask for your understanding and patience in this troubling and challenging period in which we will remain true to our guiding principles of safety, customer satisfaction and economic sustainability, which will guide us through this process.
We are expecting that a resolution to the immediate challenges will be worked out in the weeks ahead and we will be in a position to resume operations in the shortest possible timeframe.

Again, we thank you for your patience and understanding as we work through the challenges that have been thrust upon as we emerge stronger and more resilient.

Sincerely,

Christopher Read
Managing Director

Strangely enough, on the 12 February the airline posted this cryptic message on their Facebook page:

Good Afternoon Everyone,
We are currently experiencing technical issues regarding making bookings. You may find that you are unable to book flights on our website beyond February 17th; depending on your route. If this occurs please contact the Reservation Office (1-876-923-0371) to assist with further details. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your patience as we try to have the issue rectified.

Norman Manley International Airport to be privatised within a year

It is expected to take another year before the Norman Manley International Airport is placed under private management.
Dr. Omar Davies, Minister of Transport, Works and Housing, said the undertaking is being targeted for implementation under a Public/Private Partnership (PPP) agreement. The process is scheduled for completion by March 2014.

Dr. Davies said a 2004 Capital Development Master Plan, which is currently being updated, will guide the process. This undertaking will include extension and widening of the runway, establishment of runway end safety areas in line with International Civil Aviation Organization and Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority safety standards.

The Sangster International Airport in Montego Bay was placed under a similar arrangement in 2003.

more information available at: http://rjrnewsonline.com/local/norma...ort-to-be-privatised-within-a-year


User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 21494 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 15):
Are you sure? B737-700 seems to have the range.

Range yes, but the payload/capacity will be low for that amount of fuel required and on a 7400' runway.



Maintain own separation with terrain!
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2567 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 21434 times:

Quoting Inbound (Reply 19):
but the payload/capacity will be low for that amount of fuel required and on a 7400' runway.

POA runway is 7481ft long.
POA (29°59'40"S 51°10'17"W) PTY (09°04'17"N 79°23'00"W) 321° (NW) 3277 mi
From www.gcmap.com
But I've no clue if CM actually have to take-off its B737-700 weigh-restricted from MVD or POA to PTY, I would guess no.
However, MVD and POA do have the temperature at take-off time on their side when compared to tropical GEO.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days ago) and read 21397 times:

Quoting Inbound (Reply 13):



The YYZ route seems over served now that BW has added capacity and Westjet has jumped in with a aggressive daily service into POS. Capacity seeme to be up by almost 75%. What will be the fallout as I cannot imagine that either carrier will want to have too many empty seats indefinitely.

Westjet has been having discussions with the Guyana govt. As have B6. I guess the notion is if/when they get suitable planes they will see if GEO makes sense.

I know that the GY govt is very embarrassed by the departure of DL. Is currently spending lots of media time refuting every argument about why DL withdrew service. This includes denying that DL has seen detariorating loads. Apparently they have not, based on Guyana stats. But deteriorating yields they definitely anticipate now they they have to competewith BW for those who insist on nonstop flights.

There was also some scandal involving DL personnel searching the former president, before he was allowed to board.

We will see what they dig up. They claim that they wil not offer any revenue subsidy, or waive taxes on fuel or landing fees Dont know if DL was insisting on this. DL may have them over a barrel so you may well not see the last of them into GEO, if they can force concessions out of the GY govt.

The local travel agents are making a lot of noise about .not having enough seats to sell for the busy Jul/Aug perod. I assume that BW will have an aggressive summer schedule featuring a daily 767 nonstop, because that is what it will take to fill the gap.


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 783 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days ago) and read 21390 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 20):

POA runway is 7481ft long.
POA (29°59'40"S 51°10'17"W) PTY (09°04'17"N 79°23'00"W) 321° (NW) 3277 mi
From www.gcmap.com
But I've no clue if CM actually have to take-off its B737-700 weigh-restricted from MVD or POA to PTY, I would guess no.
However, MVD and POA do have the temperature at take-off time on their side when compared to tropical GEO.

Remember you have to add fuel not only for the flight, but any headwinds enroute, atc delays, instrument approaches, alternate airport (which would be POS in this case). WS 73G's seat only 136. Any restricted weight will cut the amount of pax they can carry on that flight. Less pax means a lower yield for that flight. So yes, while the 73G can probably make the trip, its just not worth the hassle. Same story for B6 and their A320's. It's just not worth it.



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days ago) and read 21378 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 22):

Any word yet on who will fill the gap in just over a month into SJU from SKB/ANU/DOM. I assume that LI is the only option. I note that they have already started a 4X/week ANU/SKB/SXM flight, in addition to the existing daily ANU SJU service.


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days ago) and read 21369 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 23):

It was noted in another thread that seaborne would take up SJU- DOM, FDF and PTP using Saab 340 aircraft:

http://www.seaborneairlines.com/wp-c...ads/SAL-DOMPTP-Feb-19-Engl-Spa.pdf

No word on any others yet



Reality be Rent. Synapse, break! Vanishment, This World!
25 LimaFoxTango : That additional flight has been around since last year, about late Nov if i remember correctly. Back then it was routed ANU/SXM/EIS/SJU. The next few
26 Post contains images yellowtail : What they need to do is to move the service to Belize where there actually some pax willing to pay for J class tickets to GCM and then have Tropic Ai
27 guyanam : That additional LI route should absorb any seat shortage into SJU a smost of AE's passengers will move over to the MIA route, so only O&D traffic
28 yellowtail : Let me publicly welcome our Roving Brazilian and trip reporter, Andre Franca to Belize! enjoy your stay, the weather looks to be great!
29 Post contains images andrefranca : Thank you so much!!! I'm really having fun here in caye caulker!
30 yellowtail : Tropic Air has announced service start date from BZE to CUN https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tropic-Air-Belize/340653164591 So what's next for them? GCM
31 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : DAE hires new Chief Commercial Officer "DAE has added to its top management team, Carlos Tait, as Chief Commercial Officer. Mr Tait is an experienced
32 yellowtail : Rumors abound of a soon to be announced 3Xweekly MIA-GEO B738 MIA-PBM B738
33 BE77 : Abound where when, who?? Direct? Any clue as to timing? Quit teasing me!!! A direct PBM-MIA connection, even 3X, would make life so much easier for t
34 yellowtail : Sorry I should have said AA....there is another thread on it now....
35 Post contains links and images A388 : I think PY will suffer from these direct flights, especially on the PBM-AUA-MIA flight. The The U.S. immigration check in AUA to me doesn't outway th
36 Post contains images BigMac : MIA-PBM with a B738 is suicide... Route won't last a month... PBM is such a small market and we already have DAE, Insel Air, PY, and BW, though none
37 A388 : AA can stimulate tourism to Surinam as they have a much bigger market they serve from the U.S. (connecting possibilities). Surinam currently doesn't
38 guyanam : AAs MIA GEO will just about squash PYs GEO MIA service as AA offers connection to points within the USA. Many who use this flight travel beyond MIA a
39 2travel2know2 : I don't see that much potential for PBM-SDQ unless it's flown via CUR/SXM, or has an HAV or even KIN tag-on. If PY wants to return to PTY it'll be mo
40 A388 : How is the PTY-CUR route doing so far? A388
41 guyanam : I still think that PY is being over ambitious and that its plans for route developiment into non traditional markets might well hurt them. I do not k
42 A388 : With regards to the PBM route, I also think there are too many seats but I think DAE is just trying to be competitive and take a risk here. Looking a
43 BigMac : Of course AA can stimulate tourism to Surinam, but how much (probably only a handful). How many "real" tourists (people who have no relation with Guy
44 A388 : Let's leave it to time to see how succesful AA will be. It is clear that you have your own opinion. If it works, it works. If it doesn't work, they w
45 2travel2know2 : If it's because CUR O/D demands tag-on to SXM, SDQ, PAP, KIN or HAV may make more sense, not sure about SJU. If CM is already in the CUR-PTY route, C
46 A388 : That would also require approval from CUR and Venezuela and to my knowledge the bilateral between CUR and Venezuela will not allow PY to fly the CUR-
47 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : WestJet flights to continue through low season St. John’s Antigua- Canadian carrier WestJet Airlines has confirmed it will continue its service from
48 817Dreamliiner : Oh great... Another Airline to join the ANU Saturday rush...
49 Post contains links caribbean484 : Scandinavian travelers now have easier access to Tobago with the introduction of a charter service from several Scandinavian cities directly to the AN
50 817Dreamliiner : Never said it wasnt... Just that ANU is already jammed packed on a Saturday... its about time this route restarted! would have preferred if VS had do
51 guyanam : [ The issue is can ANU accommodate all these passengers arriving Sat mid afternoon? Its a small airport. Maybe Su might have been a better day?
52 LimaFoxTango : Sat and Sun are equally busy days. Uncomfortable first and last impression of ANU for the pax, but they'll survive. All depends on what arrival and d
53 Caymanair : I think you'll find that to be the case at most Caribbean airports where tourists make up the bulk of passengers. Major airlines reduce their schedul
54 N312RM : All valid points, plus the delays in KX getting their IOSA certification, which precluded any sort of code share with CM. I understand that the retur
55 Post contains images andrefranca : MINI trip repooorrrrrt mini trip repoooort! Firstly I would like to say TAHNK YOU VERY MUCH! Yellowtail or Anthony! for your support and help and for
56 yellowtail : Glad you had fun!
57 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Nice Photos Andrefranca! Did some spotting at MAN airport on Saturday, the daily EK A380 flight got stuck on the runway (lost its steering) and had t
58 Post contains images A388 : Nice photos 817Dreamliiner, it would be better to have the sun behind your back when spotting but that's just for the ones who want to upload the phot
59 Post contains images A388 : Nice photos 817Dreamliiner, it would be better to have the sun behind your back when spotting but that's just for the ones who want to upload the phot
60 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Yes I know what you mean with the sun. I guess you can only get good ones in the afternoon, during the morning the sun is directly in front of you so
61 Post contains links A388 : I found a photo of a spotting location that seems to be on the opposite side of the terminal building that is great for morning photography (see belo
62 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Thanks, ive always wondered about the other spotting locations, the one you linked looks like a really good spot, however im limited to public transp
63 Post contains images A388 : Okay I understand that. In this case it will be good to go to that a.net meeting. You will meet other spotters who might be able to pick you up to go
64 Post contains links caribbean484 : Grenada PM: CAL may get flag carrier status "Newly sworn-in Prime Minister of Grenada Dr Keith Mitchell has hinted Caribbean Airlines Limited (CAL) ma
65 yellowtail : I vote for having it in BZE.
66 Post contains links and images A388 : Hey guys, I just realized I made the first photo of the 747 passing over Mahoo Beach from the Mahoo Beach bar. I took the picture back in 1996 and so
67 guyanam : Any one knows how BW is doing on the LGW POS route? By now they should have fully established themselves so its time to figure out if this route is vi
68 Post contains links and images A388 : Hello guys, My night photo of AA's newly painted 737 is now on the site as well: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation P
69 Post contains links and images A388 : Dutch Antilles Express received their first ATR72 this past weekend. See my photo in below link: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Cu
70 Post contains images andrefranca : They seem to be desperate for airlift? dammm too far away... won't be using them!
71 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : LIAT introduces Dominica / San Juan direct service ST. JOHN’S, Antigua, March 15, 2013 – LIAT is pleased to announce the commencement of its direc
72 viasa : Did you know the new PJ-registration? Is it PJ-DAK?
73 caribbean484 : According to my sources, CAL has serious problems that are coming from the decisions made by the last chairman, and the inability of the current mana
74 2travel2know2 : Anybody taking bets how long Caribbean Airlines will remain getting hurt until something major will happen to them?
75 windian425 : TUI will start long-haul charter services from Hamburg to the Dominican Republic, Mexico and Barbados from November 2013. A B767-300 will fly twice we
76 BW424 : Possibly another few months at the most. CAL is state-owned completely which makes it easy for the government to pump cash in, but that's the problem
77 yellowtail : A little dickie bird in KIN tells me thatDL is restarting ATL-KIN in Dec?[Edited 2013-03-22 18:40:07]
78 yellowtail : Seems to be bookable now.....can a restart of POS be far behind?
79 2travel2know2 : Hope this time DL ATL-KIN schedule will be more fit to KIN O/D needs. Red-eyes ATL-POS, morning POS-ATL?
80 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : LI will be operating a proving flight into Guyana's Ogle Airport on Tuesday (3/26). This flight will pave the way for scheduled passenger flights hope
81 guyanam : While their incompetent management is clearly to be blamed, especially for rushing the LGW route, Clearly BW assuming JMs operations was a mistake. K
82 BW424 : This is where you are wrong. People seem to have this delusional belief such as yourself that this was the brain child of the former GORTT PM. Realit
83 BW424 : Awesome to hear of this news. I know it's been long overdue! Any info on LI's ATR delivery schedule? Is is still on for May this year?
84 A388 : Hello viasa, unfortunately I don't have the local registration of this aircraft yet. A388
85 yellowtail : Now I know you didn't write that long post on a smart phone
86 guyanam : BW is slashing KIN, so where is this critical mass going to come from? Jamaicans do not support it, never did, and I am not sure what BW can do to ch
87 JM02 : The BW operations may be struggling in KIN but it's not as if KIN is a booming market. Year on year numbers for KIN are falling and in-fact B6 is redu
88 guyanam : KIN is not a booming market. I am not aware that it is a shrinking market either. Remember than an importrnat driver is the VFR market, which I am su
89 Post contains links JM02 : This was incredibly inefficient and was not done because the loads were so great but because they had excess capacity and also for aircraft repositio
90 guyanam : Not debating LHR or MAN. The BW manager for Jamaica has reported that the airline is under severe pressure on its KIN base due to inroads bycompetito
91 yellowtail : and now there are reports that DL might be back on an ATL KIN Reports? It is loaded already for a December start.
92 Caymanair : The whole Air Jamaica sale/ BW takeover/ 2 brands, one airline fiasco was horribly managed from Day 1. Made significantly worse by the change of gove
93 JA : How long in advance do people book flights to GEO? Would it make sense for a DL replacement to start in late June or early July?
94 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : CAL flies into the red IT’S official! Caribbean Airlines (CAL) is bankrupt! Word reaching TnT Mirror is that the Board has gone cap-inhand to borrow
95 2travel2know2 : My sympathy with the employees about to lose their jobs and the passengers about to be forced to either change or lose they bookings.
96 yellowtail : Off the wall thought but would CM become a suitor for BW? They could set up a small hub in POS
97 2travel2know2 : True both BW and CM do have matching B737 fleets and CM does lack presence where BW is(was) an strong brand, but I really doubt it CM would dare to d
98 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : LIAT passengers say Ogle Airport would be more convenient for travel GEORGETOWN, Guyana, March 26, 2013 – An in-flight Guyana Airport Preferences Su
99 guyanam : Why would the disappearance of the AJ brand have helped BW? The duplication of operations was reduced by integrating their flight crews, reservations
100 2travel2know2 : I dare to add that GND, BGI and UVF too could some-way benefit from an strong reliable BW POS operation. Not to forget, definitely CCS, which for all
101 guyanam : Mybe POS can evolve into a local hub based on Eastern Ven, GEO and PBM. Maybe some additional feed to PTY out of BGI/UVF/BGI. I only wished BW focuse
102 aa1818 : Gotta agree with you here. What CAL has become (leaving politics out of it), is something that no A.netter ever wished for. Focussing on 737s and a s
103 yellowtail : HAs anyone ever noticed that the moment the Caribbean carriers get fascinated with over the pond stuff they start to lose money......and focus. BW wo
104 BW424 : Well...there lies the issue. When you have amateurs at board level wrongfully running an airline and possess an extreme thirst to have a "big plane"
105 caribbean484 : For those wondering about CAL's loses and where they come from, the airline's CFO had a meeting last week outlining it all. The airline lost: US$20m i
106 2travel2know2 : Had BW been managed by focused people who know how to run an airline with no T&T government officials interfering its operations, something good c
107 andrefranca : We know that in the world of aviation, we'll always encounter the "ones" who think they know about aviation.... PS- Gotta catch my AC flight to YYZ,
108 Post contains links and images A388 : Hello All, Below is the photo I took when I arrived back in Curacao about two weeks ago: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Av
109 guyanam : The problem is that, not only does the board not understand tha aviation business, but they know nothbing about running corporations either. Clearly
110 Caymanair : By that I mean that BW should have walked away from any JM deal. Why go back after their first bid was refused? No one else would have bought JM and
111 yellowtail : But by the comments on this forum, one would think that folks in GEO are happy DL is gone/is going.
112 guyanam : In ore BW didnt buy over JM, nor did they assume any of its assets, liabilities, or contractual obligations. The only ex JM staff who were hired were
113 guyanam : DL made their decision for reasons that had NOTHING to do with the fuel subsidy. Clearly not as how can the Guyana govt be blamed for something that
114 2travel2know2 : Maybe this question has been sort of asked here before more than once but now that DL showed no interest for GEO and given the financial state of BW;
115 LimaFoxTango : Whatever gave you that impression?
116 beeweel15 : BW is an easy fix wish they would take the help
117 Post contains links and images TransIsland : Crash in Mayaguana, Bahamas, last night: http://www.tribune242.com/news/2013/...lane-kills-three-mayaguana-runway/ View Large View MediumPhoto © Step
118 Post contains images A388 : Tell us how easy that is, I'm curious and VERY doubtful at the same time A388
119 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Wow haven't posted in this thread in a while.... As someone who use to fly BW regularly, im actually sad to here this. Im hoping they can turn themsel
120 2travel2know2 : Help from whom?
121 guyanam : The BW JFK GEO nonstop flights have decent loads, even before DL disappeared. In fcat it is BECAUSE BW started this route why DL left, as they were h
122 2travel2know2 : This statement really sets back any dream of turning POS into a true continental hub airport someday. No wonder why (other than the usual language/cu
123 A388 : That's good 817Dreamliiner, I hope that you will have your first photos accepted in the database soon. I envy you that you are going to LHR. I would
124 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Thanks, im keeping my fingers crossed, though the screening process takes forever! My LHR spotting isnt totally firm yet, Have to get to London first
125 guyanam : Was watching Bloomberg TV (major source of financial news) and a hotelier was talking about plans for additional facilities in PTY. Why? Because PTY
126 yellowtail : I am very sorry to be blunt, but you have no idea what you are talking about. There were 2 reasons that DL left. One of those was the fuel subsidy is
127 2travel2know2 : Sure POS can't compete with PTY but IMHO, specifically talking about CCS (serviced daily ATR POS and not twice daily B737-800) that's because BW mana
128 Post contains links aa1818 : Just thought i'd share the rebuttal from BW in the Trinidad Express from Tuesday 2nd April 2013. http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/...t-strapped-for
129 Post contains images A388 : Thanks 817Dreamliiner. In July BA will get their first A380, it might be worth the trip to go to LHR at that time too. I wish I was you (so close to
130 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Well, ill probably be back home in MNI then, but maybe someday . Dont forget MAN as well
131 Post contains images A388 : Okay, no problem my friend. Should you need any help in photo editing or aircraft photography tips, just let me know and I see how I can assist. Also
132 guyanam : So why dont you tell us why you think that a poor NON TOURISM dependent country like Guyana ought to offer an incentive to DL to offset BWs fuel subs
133 guyanam : I guess the truth is some where between the Mirror artice and the BW response. Any way it is quite clear that GORTT will not allow BW to collapse. I
134 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Thanks alot A388! I'll PM you if I need assistance. Though, I wont be doing much editing for a while, got exams coming up... But yes ill post here if
135 2travel2know2 : AA can't add any more seats to its MIA-CCS service. Venezuelans refuse to fly SBA Airlines and all the excess demand flies via PTY and BOG, and that
136 TransIsland : It sort of is. Many small airports in the Bahamas do not have runway lights. They normally only operate from sunrise to sunset, and are closed at nig
137 guyanam : And I submit Venezuelans will sooner use BOG and PTY than they will use POS. I wonder why you think that they will see the unknown BW with any more f
138 2travel2know2 : Venezuelan aviation is in such a lousy condition that international passengers 1st choice when flying are the non-Venezuelan airlines. So that means
139 andrefranca : POS is waaaayyyyy out of the way for us, POS could work if they had cheap flights from northern brazilians cities, but open skies will be avaiable to
140 Post contains links 2travel2know2 : Please compare routes via PTY and via POS for GRU. (from www.gcmap.com) GRU (23°25'55"S 46°28'10"W) MIA (25°47'43"N 80°17'24"W) 324.1° (NW) 4072
141 andrefranca : I totally see your point, but JJ already deploys its A330 on the MAO MIA, AA and CM still with their narrowbodies but both flights PACKED, shouldn't
142 beeweel15 : This is nothing new the old BW did this just repeating something done in the past
143 LimaFoxTango : [Post deleted] .....[Edited 2013-04-08 09:32:57]
144 guyanam : Why should a broke airline speculate that MAYBE they might be favored when Latin American carriers like COPA and Avianca are well installed and Venez
145 aa1818 : Yeah, but 1) trying to see the positive in the airline, when there's so much negative press; 2) it resurrects a dead industry for POS, which is alway
146 yellowtail : Has it crossed anybody's mind that DL announcing KIN, when it did, was a little retaliation against BW in GEO.
147 LimaFoxTango : What I did notice is that DL reused the JFK/GEO flight numbers for its ATL/KIN service (DL 383/384).
148 Post contains images yellowtail : I did too.... Trade ya one "weak destination" for another. You push us out of GEO with subsidized fuel, we'll push you out of KIN with a revenue guar
149 Post contains links 2travel2know2 : From www.gcmap.com Please compare: CCS (10°36'11"N 66°59'26"W) MIA (25°47'43"N 80°17'24"W) 322.0° (NW) 1360 mi 2 segment path: 2003 mi (+47.3%)
150 A388 : CCS of course is more convenient if you can pay those tickets which many average Venezuelans can't. The ticket fares ex-CCS to the U.S. are very high
151 guyanam : How does it retaliate against BW. ATL KIN punishes AA via MIA more as thyat was how people would have otherwise flown to KIN. What flies in the face
152 yellowtail : Because BW has a lot invest in KIN....you hurt BW if you siphon of their traffic.
153 guyanam : How is DL hurting BW at KIN? BW does not fly to ATL. The people flying between ATL and KIN use AA via MIA. BW is being hurt by B6 out of its FLL and
154 A388 : I also don't see this DL flight to KIN having anything to do with Caribbean Airlines. Caribbean Airlines is the least of DL's problems seeing their sm
155 BW424 : [Edited 2013-04-10 14:19:42]
156 2travel2know2 : I'd have thought so.
157 LimaFoxTango : The May/June time frame is still being thrown about. Training has commenced and should be in full swing shortly as more and more guys are sent to Fra
158 Post contains images A388 : Nice and thanks for the update BW424. Please keep us informed about these LIAT ATR's. I'm very interested in seeing the revised livery!!! A388
159 BW424 : LOL A388. It was LimaFoxTango with the update. The edit function freaked out on me while updating a post. Yes, I'm very excited as well! Thanks for t
160 caribbean484 : CAL’s Consolidated Profit Statement 2012 (US$) Revenue 31-Dec-12 31-Dec-11 Operating Revenue Passenger revenue 394,134,736 424,328,363 Cargo and mai
161 guyanam : The revenue drop must have been on their KIN ops as I cant think of any reason why it would have been down on the POS/GEO. Well KIN is gone as they wi
162 Post contains links BW424 : "Howai: Restructuring coming for debt-riddled CAL" "Bankruptcy is not an option for debt-riddled State-owned Caribbean Airlines Ltd (CAL), Finance Min
163 caribbean484 : So in two years, as Lok Jack succinctly put it they run down the airline to the point of debt of TT$1.4B. As mentioned in the article the airline had
164 guyanam : We do not know whether the Lok Jack board would have been any more successful on the Jamaica base than the current management. Jamaicans did NOT acce
165 westindian425 : Nostalgia is an amazing thing. While JM existed, there were complaints about them. When they were being taken over, people were upset that JM was goi
166 westindian425 : Hey, @A388, I have a question for you, sir! I'm trying to book a trip for a few friends of mine from NYC to BON via AUA from May 3 - May 6th. I've alr
167 guyanam : People complain about their kids. That doesnt mean that they dont love them. This is the relationship that Trinis and Jamaicans had with their airlin
168 Post contains images A388 : Hello westindian425, how are you doing? I don't know customs in AUA so I'm afraid I can't give you any meaningful advice but knowing that AUA has two
169 Post contains images speedbird2263 : An excellent analogy if ever I've seen one. Spot on IMHO. -2263
170 guyanam : Glad to see a Jamaican on this site.
171 yellowtail : That you are right about. Based on the loads I am seeing....I would not say "flocking to Fly Jam"
172 A388 : Well they all have been here in the past but since they started there own threads, they all moved. It's funny to see that even on this forum the Jama
173 guyanam : Well they arent doing BW. They have slashed their flights by 50% into KIN and the flights arent full. The issue of course being why did BW reduce the
174 trintocan : In fact there was a bit more to this. AC were instrumental in founding JM and as a result for many years the two carriers avoided competing with one
175 guyanam : AC and JM competed head to head by the early 70s. They initially served YYZ via PHL, but then began nonstops. JM discontinued YYZ in the 90s as they
176 andrefranca : Hey man, based on my past 2 visits to AUA, customs officers are relaxed but immigration lines can be unbelievable, 6 officers to process 4 jets on th
177 Post contains links caribbean484 : "Dutch Antilles Express (DAE), as part of its fleet refurbishing plan, is investing over 2.5 million dollars in performing scheduled major overhaul on
178 Post contains images speedbird2263 : In late April nonetheless; I can't speak for Canada but I'm based close enough to the border in DTW and I've had it! with anything less than 59F/15C.
179 Post contains images westindian425 : Wow! Good to know. I'll give my friends the info. I managed to book a 5-hour break. Insel Air was booked solid, and DAE only had a flight at 9pm (B6
180 Post contains images speedbird2263 : I'm telling you man! I'm willing to write that memo..or better yet make it an essay to Mother Nature on the importance of adhering to her seasonal de
181 A388 : Well, hate to tell you that the so-callled "islanders" you are talking about are all wrong. Saba and St. Eustatia decided to join "Mother Holland" be
182 trintocan : The principal reason air passenger duty (APD from here onwards) was devolved to Northern Ireland was that it has few long-haul flights and these were
183 guyanam : Not an expert on this issue but while in SXM I didnt hear a kind word about CUR. In fact SXMers went as far as they could to indicate that their iden
184 A388 : From your view, yes, there might be some truth to what you said. What andrefranca said is totally not true. A388
185 yellowtail : Try going thru MIA with all these furloughs....lines at FIS were about 3.5 hours yesterday.
186 Post contains links guyanam : There is a video comparing SXMers with people from CUR. Totally different. Not just in laguage and accent when the latter speak English, but their ma
187 A388 : Yes, that is true but not everyone is multilingual but compared to SXM we are multilingual. I speak three languages fluantly and understand four in t
188 A388 : Just wondering guys, How is Caribbean Airlines doing now with their brandnew ATR72-600's? I remember there were issues with baggage capacity or someth
189 Post contains images andrefranca : Hellloooooo Caribbean people! Sorry I have not being around for a while due to my crazy "gap year" exploring! right now guess where am I? I left f****
190 Post contains images andrefranca :
191 Post contains links b757lvr : The Star Newspaper in St.lucia is reporting that United Airlines will Launch new Service from Newark to St.Lucia. The weekly flight from EWR to UVF st
192 Post contains links BW424 : "Hopes of stability in the Caribbean are dashed as its namesake carrier struggles" "Caribbean Airlines’ 2010 acquisition of Air Jamaica ushered in h
193 ahlfors : Well, the situation for Caribbean Airlines isn't surprising. Back when the government let it be run like a real airline, things went well... then the
194 guyanam : Agree in terms of its analysis of LGW. Quite skeptical about claims that BW has 90% loads into LGW. Can any one verify this? Mixed opinions of the 76
195 westindian425 : NICE!!!!! Considering I have a lot of family from St. Lucia, this would be welcomed news indeed!
196 yellowtail : Meanwhile over in the forgotten Western Caribbean, Tropic Air today announced service BZE-RTB. Commencing Nov 20. This will be their 4th international
197 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Hi guys Just wanted to let you know that ive finally gotten one of my photos accepted here in the database: View Large View MediumPhoto © Yvan Greena
198 BW424 : Government and policy change is one hell of a thing..... Honestly, the 767s and LGW is the entire reason why BW is so much in debt right now. As the
199 Post contains links caribbean484 : Thanks for the reports on the Western Front lol, but some news on the french Caribbean Air Caribbean will provide 100 tickets to the ultra-poor sailo
200 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Thanks BW424!
201 guyanam : And the US$38MM loss on the Jamaica routes plays no part in BWs weak position? Do agree that LGW was a mistake and shouldnt have been attempted when
202 Inbound : Obviously you are referring to the wet-leased 767 operation into LGW. Yes, that was extremely expensive as well as loss of revenue by having their ow
203 guyanam : In fact once DL departs the 4x JFK GEO POS will not be enough. JFK flights seem to be almost 100% sold out in coach Whether the YYZ GEO POS needs to
204 BW424 : I'm speaking of the entire scenario of acquiring these 767s. Obviously, if Nicholas didn't have his "bright idea" that CAL should go to London becaus
205 Post contains images A388 : Great photo Yvan!!! I'm glad to help you. You live close to a very nice airport with lots of movements (MAN) so I'm looking forward to more photos be
206 2travel2know2 : Yes, an airline doesn't need wide-bodies to be considered leading or respected carrier. But since CM was mentioned, CM is crying for a larger B737 to
207 guyanam : You make good points here but I would argue that BWs KIN base also distracted from its acheiving the goals that you describe. This was a risky ventur
208 yellowtail : BW could learn alot by looking at what TA did with SAL and LIM hubs....each complementing each other and serving different markets. The same could be
209 A388 : You do know Copa also serves AUA, CUR, NAS, SJU, SDQ, HAV, MBJ, KIN, PAP and ADZ in the Caribbean(?) Even so I do agree with you that it is much more
210 guyanam : The horse has already galloped out of the barn when it comes to Jamaica. They have already decided that they dont like BW, FlyJam is there for those
211 A388 : That's true but as you said the number of flights AA offers from MIA to North America makes CM from PTY practically non existant. So yes, CM and thei
212 2travel2know2 : That would mean we'd now probably see passengers flying between POS and KIN/MBJ/NAS (maybe PAP too) via PTY. As for passengers between POS and CUR/AU
213 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : As I mentioned before and continually keep saying, CAL's Jamaica operations is not the problem as loads have always been decent enough to make money o
214 guyanam : NAS definitely and BZE if CM starts service. Dont see KIN (BW) or SXM (BW/LI) as competing service already exists. Also dont see CUR/AUA with PY/LI t
215 guyanam : JFK to POS/GEO fully booked, and its not even summer. Surely BW will do more than to re-introduce its 424/425 service when loads really spike. Hopeful
216 Post contains images yellowtail : Where is a DL flight when you need it
217 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Unfair competition: LIAT denounces Caribbean Airlines subsidy St. John’s Antigua- LIAT has agreed to challenge the Trinidad & Tobago government
218 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : Given the amount of time BZE has invested in talking to CM, while I'd like to see CM to BZE, BGI and GEO within one year, I'm very sceptical that mig
219 yellowtail : That is very right....I believe they have been at it for a few years. On the other hand, BGI and GEO do have one thing going for them that BZE doesn'
220 Inbound : I had a look at the model airport at GEO's terminal a few days ago and it's not that huge. They only have 7 "fingers" planned and to think they only
221 guyanam : DL wants to rape a poor nation which cannot afford to pay them subsidies on a route where they have almost 90% loads. Do you not think that this is e
222 2travel2know2 : I've not been to POS, so I ask, when international passengers come out of the jetways, do they go to the same are where the departing passengers are
223 andrefranca : I deplaned twice there, once I had to go through customs, as I was arriving in the country the second time we used the tarmac and deplaned directly t
224 trintocan : No, when passengers deplane via the jetways they descend stairs to the Immigration and Customs areas which are on the ground floor. The departures le
225 andrefranca : in PTY they NEVER re-scan, only if you clear customs and decide to return! but there are special checks for the USA bound flights, don't even need to
226 A388 : Yes, I also wasn't aware that the SJU-CCS flight was stopped as it is a very lucrative flight for AA!!! A388
227 yellowtail : And BW is doing what? I would argue the very same thing! I wan't either. I thought AA would hang on to this tooth and nail simply because of the CCS
228 2travel2know2 : Very foolish from AA part to stop SJU-CCS. There is an interesting CCS-SJU O/D traffic which could alone have supported the daily flight, albeit mayb
229 guyanam : Guyanese have complained on numerous occasions that when they disembark they are directed to an elevator, not an escalater, and that there are often
230 A388 : Again AA didn't stop the SJU-CCS flights. A388
231 2travel2know2 : They're planning to do so.
232 andrefranca : thank for explaining, I knew it was going on, but didn't know how.
233 A388 : Do you have a source on this? What is the reason they want to stop this route? A388
234 Post contains links andrefranca : http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/...011.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n CAL BOARD AXED!
235 Post contains images time2lyme : Here we go again Think they'll get it right this time? Taking bets......
236 yellowtail : Check the ticket price....
237 Mah4546 : Nope.
238 Post contains images yellowtail : there should be an announcement for BZE later this week..... some of my a.net friends might want to dig up their comments from the OAG thread a few mo
239 2travel2know2 : Very wise move from AA part not to plan to stop SJU-CCS.
240 guyanam : Dont know where you are getting your info from. Checked fares for travel in June. $750, including taxes and fees. The SAME fare that DL used to charg
241 yellowtail : Yet, you accused DL of raping the consumer in GEO Why did you not think it was when DL was charging the fare (as per your comparison above), but now
242 guyanam : I really do think from your ardent defense of DL that you really think that DL was right to demand that Guyana should buy expensive jet fuel and then
243 yellowtail : PY....they got their own problems trying to take care of PBM burgeoning tourism industry. As for FlyJam, they believe (rightly so) in Jamaica first..
244 Post contains links guyanam : Fly Jam is owned by a Guyanese who definitely wants to serve his country. Why are they going through the expense of applying for route rights? PY has
245 Post contains links BW424 : New forum up. Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105 (by BW424 May 20 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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