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AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?  
User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 16174 times:

Looking at our delivery schedule the first of the A319's is due 1H/Jul2013. Just wondering if production has begun in any form for this aircraft? The delivery schedule in the ops website does not specify when production on airframes begin.

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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1341 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 16136 times:

Well it's February, so unless there's been a delay or deferral, yes, production would have begun a little while back...


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30415 posts, RR: 84
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 16044 times:
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AA is going to take the A319-100 sharklet test frame later this year and that one has already been built, but I am guessing it will not be the first AA A319-100 delivery.

User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16239 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 15996 times:

1 has been built already. AA will take the A319 sharklet test aircraft built in 2012. MSN 5327.

The other 15 A319's ordered start with MSN 5678 (to be delivered in July). No idea on actual production of these aircraft. No idea whether 5327 will be delivered before 5678.

Current AA order 16x A319 and 115x A321's btw (total 131). Likely many more A321's will be firmed as A319's.



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User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 15771 times:

I thought I read someplace that AA had planned 130xA139 and 130xA321... Was it modified or did I read something else?

User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3703 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 15605 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 4):
I thought I read someplace that AA had planned 130xA139 and 130xA321... Was it modified or did I read something else?

It was 130 A32xOEO and 130x A32xNEO, convertible to any A320 family member.



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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1536 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 15518 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 3):
Current AA order 16x A319 and 115x A321's btw (total 131). Likely many more A321's will be firmed as A319's.

Where did the extra one come from? AA's last quarterly filing shows 130 A32x classics on order.



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User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16239 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 15106 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 4):
I thought I read someplace that AA had planned 130xA139 and 130xA321... Was it modified or did I read something else?

130 total non-neo (mix 319 and 321). Upped by 1 to 131 now.

Also 130 planned neo's.

So total 260 originally. Now 261.

Quoting FL787 (Reply 6):
Where did the extra one come from? AA's last quarterly filing shows 130 A32x classics on order.

My source, areotransport, shows it as 131 total. The additional 1 was added ~ 6 mos ago.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 15102 times:

Is it safe to assume that In another 2-3 months we should figure out what routes the first A319s will be flying?

User currently offlineamerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3728 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14997 times:
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Quoting yyz717 (Reply 7):
So total 260 originally. Now 261.

And those are only the ones AA ordered on its own in the middle of 2011.
Add to that the ex-US A32x, the Airbus narrow body fleet will be huge.



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User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12324 times:

To be fair, they have 93, already built, that they will acquire soon  

In all seriousness, would it be a better idea for AA to convert some of their later A319 deliveries to A321/320 orders, since they only ordered 11, and will acquire a large number in the merger with US? (assuming the merger goes through) I can't imagine that an additional 11 frames will make that much of a difference. Or are the newer 319's more capable than the ones US already has?


User currently offlinePugman211 From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11720 times:
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Airbus is currently on around the MSN 5550 area for SA aircraft. Do you have a list of MSN's for AA?

User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16239 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11260 times:

16x A319 MSN's: 5327, 5678, 5698, 5704, 5745, 5753, 5761, 5781, 5786, 5788, 5789, 5798, 5810, 5827, 5842, 5902
6x A321 MSN's: 5838, 5876, 5890, 5895, 5899, 5939

Only 6 A321 MSN's identified so far.

The remaining 109 aircraft are nominally booked as A321. Firmed up as A319 or A321 as MSN's progressively assigned.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10060 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 12):
16x A319 MSN's: 5327, 5678, 5698, 5704, 5745,

The most recent report I can find of a spotters tour round XFW (about 2 weeks ago) gave:

Highest MSN complete aircraft: #5523
Highest MSN main and rear fuselage: #5591
Highest MSN rear fuselage: #5598

So it will be a little while longer before #5678 appears on the production line



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User currently offlinecaptainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9294 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 7):
The additional 1 was added ~ 6 mos ago.

Maybe a baker's dozen kind of deal... Airbus figured they wouldn't really be able to use it past the sharklet testing procedures, so they tossed it in with the other 130 OEOs?



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User currently offlineJack From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9034 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 12):
16x A319 MSN's: 5327, 5678, 5698, 5704, 5745, 5753, 5761, 5781, 5786, 5788, 5789, 5798, 5810, 5827, 5842, 5902
6x A321 MSN's: 5838, 5876, 5890, 5895, 5899, 5939

So who are they leasing these from, is it direct from Airbus who will sell them on like the SIA A330 or from existing leasors orders?


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5396 times:

I figured the first ones would come from USAirways

User currently offlinegen2stew From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4682 times:

According to a previous poster MSN#5327 is to go to AA. LINK TO MSN#5327 : http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...0D4038BEFCC943D65&selectedIndex=12


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User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2669 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

Are there renderings of them with the new livery? All of the ones I can find have the Vignelli livery.

User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8373 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3257 times:

Yes, AA/US will take a lot of new Airbus deliveries. But the schedule and blend are TBD.

There will be future joint press releases from Doug Parker of AA and Airbus. Those are the announcements to look for. The existing US and AA deals will be blended and renegotiated, favorably to all.


User currently offlinenomorerjs From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3238 times:

Many of these will find a nice new home at ORD!

User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

What is US scheduled to take this year? I know some A332s are due midyear, but I'm less sure what narrowbodies they have lined up after taking a dozen or so A321-200s last year.

User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 8):
what routes the first A319s will be flying?
Quoting nomorerjs (Reply 20):
Many of these will find a nice new home at ORD!

Thats my bet.

N737AA


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