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Air India Pilot Makes Rap Vide - Gets Into Trouble  
User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4227 times:

This is an Air India F/O rapping, and he is apparently in trouble, story below - slightly NSFW language (headphones recommended). Can't say much for the quality of the music, but strangely sympathise with his frustration. The fact that he is a pilot is confirmed - YouTube link.

http://bit.ly/Y0BYUQ

Associated story (basically management pissed!)

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-...agement-fume/Article1-1013622.aspx


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User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3832 times:

F.O. Shakur can't rap, so I cannot fathom what possibly could have inspired him to put up a video of himself... The ostinato wasn't bad though.

I do sympathize with his plight, as the 787 grounding isn't likely to finish anytime soon and every day he isn't flying, his salary drops.



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3643 times:

I'm no judge of rap, so I can't really say if he can rap or not, but it seemed rappish to me and I thought it was quite good. Pity about the bad language, but I can understand his frustration; AI has been on a downward spiral for quite a long time, which must be very bad for aircrew morale. Not being paid for five months can't help either.

Is he actually a 787 pilot?

What is an NoC anyway?


User currently offlineaircanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

this guy can't rap or sing..i think he should stick to his day job as a pilot not as a rapper.

User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 2):
What is an NoC anyway?

No-Objection certificate - basically something you need from your current employer if you apply for a new job elsewhere. AI management has been slow to give these out as pilots move to Indigo by the dozen. Kingfisher used the non-issuance of NoC's as a way of holding on to pilots - but later the pilots quits any which way; but they either lose access to their dues from the airline (Kingfisher) or have to sit out of work for a specified period of time.



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User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3165 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

Quoting aircanada014 (Reply 3):
this guy can't rap or sing..i think he should stick to his day job as a pilot not as a rapper.

I think his rap was OK. His day job isn't working out for him ATM. Having fun rapping is better than sitting around doing nothing. Wearing a mask might have been a good idea, though.



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5323 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Big danglers on this guy for sticking his neck way out. The rap could have been tighter but you can't doubt his cojones. If enough people were willing to step up, maybe some things would change at AI.


What the...?
User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

I also sympathize for the guy. Sure, that isn't the best rap you'll ever see, but that isn't the point.


but wow - does AI not train its people on the expectations for using social media? He's in uniform, he's not hiding who he is, he says who he works for, he criticizes his management, union leaders and coworkers... how do you think you won't get in some trouble?


User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

He deserves whatever reprimand he gets. You don't go wearing your uniform and talk bad about your employer on Youtube and think they will just accept it.

User currently offlinegr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3072 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Quoting tharanga (Reply 7):
does AI not train its people on the expectations for using social media?

Companies can only inform employees about the policies and expectations......they can't be held responsible for the actions of their employees......if this guy stepped out of line, he gets what he deserves.....


User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2361 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

I think it's the right way for him to handle his emotions and feelings. And that is one part/aspect of rap...

BUT, this guy seems pretty young, isn't it. So this rap video might affect his career (at least in India). Which employer/airline will hire such a "trouble maker"?


User currently offlineZKOKQ From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Why is everyone so quick to judge him? Everyday on this board Air India get ripped a new one for the stupid decisions it makes and this guy shows its felt by its employee's to. I am glad an employee has the balls to say what he thinks. More people should say what they think rather than being yes men.

User currently offlinegr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3072 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

Quoting ZKOKQ (Reply 11):
Why is everyone so quick to judge him? Everyday on this board Air India get ripped a new one for the stupid decisions it makes and this guy shows its felt by its employee's to. I am glad an employee has the balls to say what he thinks. More people should say what they think rather than being yes men.

Whatever AI may do, as an employee you cannot wear the uniform provided to you and do something like this......it's completely against any rules or ethics of employment.....


User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7638 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1941 times:
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In what world did this guy think that posting a video of himself performing a rap full of foul language against his employer would be a good plan?


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User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

Quoting ZKOKQ (Reply 11):
Why is everyone so quick to judge him? Everyday on this board Air India get ripped a new one for the stupid decisions it makes and this guy shows its felt by its employee's to. I am glad an employee has the balls to say what he thinks. More people should say what they think rather than being yes men.

Had he created the video and just kept it for his AI colleagues to view, then it would have been fine. I say that because those who work for AI at least can agree/disagree about the FO's actions. Once it becomes public, not only does it make AI look bad (which I'm not a fan of, but this goes for any airline/corporation/company) it makes the presenter look bad for not upholding the professionalism that uniform demands.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7638 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1887 times:
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Quoting ZKOKQ (Reply 11):
Why is everyone so quick to judge him?

Perhaps because:

He chose to share this unfortunate video with the world.
He openly uses his uniform and other work-related effects in it.
The video is full of foul, highly unprofessional language.
He does nothing but slate his employer in the video.
Anyone with even half a brain knows that this will likely get you fired.
This is a wholly unprofessional way to resolve work issues.
He can't rap to save his life.

To more directly answer the question about why everyone judges - that would be because he posted the video on the internet for us to do precisely that. Pretty obvious really.



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User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

F.O. Shakur needs to get some tips from this guy if he ever decides to rap again......

http://youtu.be/DYA_ivyj3kE


User currently offlineZKOKQ From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Oh come on. Most that language is run of the day stuff now in most parts of the world. People are so sensitive. Cant handle their ego getting a touch up.

User currently offlinegr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3072 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1599 times:

Quoting ZKOKQ (Reply 17):
Oh come on. Most that language is run of the day stuff now in most parts of the world. People are so sensitive. Cant handle their ego getting a touch up.

It may be okay with you....to the rest of the world, it's foul language.....


User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

Quoting ZKOKQ (Reply 17):
Oh come on. Most that language is run of the day stuff now in most parts of the world. People are so sensitive. Cant handle their ego getting a touch up.

Really, when was the last time you head a pilot come on the intercom using such language when addressing the passengers?


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