ilari From Finland, joined Jul 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5882 times:
Ok, should we start a new thread on Finland? (as we're officially not Scandinavian)
Some time ago I was listening to radio news and they mentioned a new charter airline called Snowbird starting operations later this year. Anything new on this? Their website http://www.snowbird.fi is not on yet.
teme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5530 times:
Quoting ilari (Reply 3): Do you think the AY ceo could be foreign, as Kauppalehti reckoned? Finn or foreign, I truly hope (s)he has knowledge of aviation business.
Well there is the suggestion from Shareholders' Nomination Committee. That Mr. Klaus W. Heinemann to be elected as Chairman of the Board. Year ago his haw hot potato in annual general meeting. Mainly because the elder shareholders don't want any "outsiders" to AY's Board of Directors. But now I must say that AY has to keep every door open.
Yes Y+ would be very welcome, especially if the product offers more than a regular Y seat with two inches more legroom... They have also said they are considering replacing in-seat video screens with tablets.
finnishway From Finland, joined Jul 2012, 188 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5450 times:
Quoting okAY (Reply 1): I heard the same rumours about snowbird. They are a group of ex-Finnair employees who are behind this. ops should start with a single leased A320, summer 2013 if I have understood correctly.
Finnair employees? I thought they were ex-Air Finland employees. Could be both, though.
They probably won't start with their own AOC this summer, maybe not even in this year. That process takes a lot of time, so they may start as an virtual airline.
okAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 554 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5423 times:
Quoting HELyes (Reply 6): They have also said they are considering replacing in-seat video screens with tablets.
I don't see the added value in this. Anything you can put on a tablet u can put on a fixed IFE seatback-mounted monitor. Tablets get broken more easily as people end up sitting on them, dropping them etc. And most probably someone will try to steal them, too.
okAY From Finland, joined Dec 2006, 554 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5288 times:
A little off topic, but IFE can be the next thing to be charged. Food, bags, seat selection etc have already undergone this change, why not IFE. It is technically possible to block individual monitors, so why not block them all and open them when a pax so wants, for, let's say 5 euros.
sailas From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2007, 211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5215 times:
so what are the future plans of HEL airport? Any new plans or do they plan to fit all a340/333and 350 in that small terminal? I wish they could take more risks, but its a strict no no in the scandinavian business world.
Airlines been on: AY, LX, SR, OS, SK, KF, EZY, FR, BA, LH, AF, TG, DC, FC, TK
Sorry, wrote a little unclear. I meant in general this could be the next source of revenue for any airline. AY has, as far as I know, no plans to start charging. The only airline I know is doing so to an extent is Thomson Airways who has basic and premium packages available for IFE. The premium package costs 5 pounds and if you buy it, you get more movies, games, series etc.
These systems are really expensive. To be honest, as I have my laptop and iPhone, I would not mind the little screen being switched off and flying cheaper.
finnishway From Finland, joined Jul 2012, 188 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5082 times:
Quoting okAY (Reply 14): The only airline I know is doing so to an extent is Thomson Airways who has basic and premium packages available for IFE. The premium package costs 5 pounds and if you buy it, you get more movies, games, series etc.
Well, it mostly flies charters and I try to avoid them, so not a problem for me. Anyway 5 pounds for a long flight is not much, I could pay that.
I don't think that airlines like BA or LH would begin to charge using IFE.
I'd say in the Finnish business world. Swedes are much more courageous in taking chances. They realise that sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but if you do nothing, nothing will happen either. We Finns like to think no-risk business is best.
If AY wants to achieve the goal it has set, doubling Asia-traffic by 2020, a new terminal needs to be built. They have now around 15 long haul planes. Times two = 30 long hauler, present space is nowhere near sufficient.
vin2basketball From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 247 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4796 times:
Quoting AY" class="quote" target="_blank">okAY (Reply 16): If AY wants to achieve the goal it has set, doubling Asia-traffic by 2020, a new terminal needs to be built. They have now around 15 long haul planes. Times two = 30 long hauler, present space is nowhere near sufficient.
Not all of AY's long hauls are to Asia, plus there is some scope for increased Seat Factors, and increased utilization of existing fleet; you could hypothetically double the traffic with maybe 22-23 long haul aircraft.
vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3644 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4756 times:
I have seen a discussion in another forum that the Finish domestic market is in tatters since Flybe Nordic has entered the scene - a lot of routes getting canned, other having their frequencies / timings adjusted so that they have become rather useless and Flybe Nordic apparently flying around half empty planes. Is this true or just some wild exaggeration of the situation?
First A32s came early 2000, if my memory serves me correct. Some of them are owned, some leased. I think AY will stick with the series, however aircraft specific phase out happens surely as lease contracts come to an end etc. Thinking on a larger scale, if not A32s, then what? B73s is just as old and they would lose the ability to Cris-cross crews with the big Airbuses.
AFAIK no. Helsinki Airport just announced they will start dividing Schengen arrivals into two different arrivals halls, so a pax needs to know at the gate which direction to go as he disembarks. I think this is bad for Helsinki Airport, even at bigger airports there is usually one arrivals hall for Schengen/one for non-Schengen. Helsinki loses its attraction as being small/convenient airport due to this. But then again, transfer pax to/from Asia will never know about this.
25 finnishway: True, unfortunately. There have been a couple of plans some years ago, but no decisions have been made. Right now there is one major problem in Finla
26 teme82: I think that Finavia should sell some of the regional airports. But who would buy them?
27 finnishway: Municipalities and regions if they care about their air connections. Who would pay for this? Taxpayers. Private companies could also by them.
28 g2scandinavia: Is Vantaa the only profitable airport in Finland?
29 teme82: Sadly it is the only profitable airport in Finland that is owned by Finavia. There is Mikkeli airport that is owned by City of Mikkeli (MIK/EFMI), do
30 finnishway: Yes, it is the only profitable commercial airport in Finland. All of those profits are used to run HEL and other airports in Finland. There is a grou
31 g2scandinavia: I used ti live in Espoo and Helsinki back in 2000/2001. I was a bit surprised that there are actually no other competing capital airport for Helsinki.
32 finnishway: There is no actual need for another airport. HEL is good enough and there is space to build another terminal if needed. Where do they actually need a
33 Treg: Wasn't Tampere (TMP) adverticed by Ryanair as Helsinki for a while? A bit further than Skavsta from Stockholm, but not much [Edited 2013-02-28 03:49:
34 ilari: And at some point someone suggested LPR being called St Petersburg West.
35 Ideekay: Any new news about how Flybe Nordic (Or is it called Flybe Finland now) is doing on the route HEL-MHQ?
36 ilari: Apparently quite well or at least ok. Air Åland has long ago quit the route.
37 sailas: i thought Mikkeli airport has been out of use for a long time? I love seeing HEL grow, but it seems like a painfully long process...
38 finnishway: There hasn't been scheduled commercial flights for a long time. It is still in use, but mostly for general aviation. Finnish Air Force started to fly
39 teme82: It is. Because the Finnish ARMY HQ is in Mikkeli. Anyway they are seeing some bizz jets from Russia in there. It's nice not busy airport close to the
40 sailas: out of topic but the army HQ in Mikkeli was stopped years back. Last time i went to Mikkeli airport it looked like nothing had been there for a decad
41 teme82: Nope. It now is in Mikkeli. Even their www page says so
42 sailas: ahh i see, i served in Parolannummi and answer to HELITR. Im sure i would have a hard time shooting planes if it ever came to it . I flew TK to DXB fr
43 okAY: HEL has grown. Destination-wise, the Asia-network is impressive to say the least. There has been growth, it has just been driven by AY. Reasons for t
44 teme82: I bet you had to change plane at IST. I don't know how much there is demand for HEL-DBX route. But there has been rumors about gulf carriers starting
45 okAY: Finnair is celebrating its 90 years of operations this year. The airline is releasing a series of videos, featuring historic as well as current footag
46 sailas: Yes had to change in IST. Needless to say the plane was 100% full from IST to DXB, even tough it was a a332, 31st of december, and arrival time at 2
47 okAY: I second that. I have worked at HEL, in the shops, on tarmac as well as running from one gate to another, so I have seen it inside out. What I don't
48 sailas: ahaha i thought i was the only one who tought the same way about this But HEL should have done the rail link a long time ago. I remember when i was s
49 okAY: Yeah, the raillink is well over due. I'm happy it will be part of the communal rail service a la AMS, not a private company venture like Arlanda Expr
50 sailas: This is true. I already feel sorry for the tourists if they come on a late evening train on a friday night... How many more routes can AY open with t