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IB To Operate A330 To LHR  
User currently offlineLofty From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 309 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7355 times:

IB are to operate the A330 on the MAD - LHR route from next week.

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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7198 times:

Is this for crew training/familiarization purposes or a permanent schedule (to replace the A340 flights or additional capacity)? What are the flying times?

I understood that MIA will also get the A333.

A388


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8552 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6683 times:
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User currently offlineBA0197 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2011, 313 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6267 times:

Perhaps this is replacing the once daily(?) A340 service to MAD from LHR? Surely they don't need the seats on the A340 (they just use it for cargo); so this allows there still to be significant more cargo stowage (as compared to A32x) yet reduces the number of seats. Smart move by IB if this is the case.

User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6185 times:

Quoting BA0197 (Reply 3):
Surely they don't need the seats on the A340 (they just use it for cargo); so this allows there still to be significant more cargo stowage (as compared to A32x) yet reduces the number of seats

This is correct if we're talking about the A340-600 being replaced by the A333 on this route (only for crew familiarization flights anyway). However, in case it's the A340-300 we're talking about, then we must not forget that the A333 and the A343 are exactly the same size.

Iberia operates the A343 in two different cabin configurations:

254 seats: 36J / 218 Y
291 seats: 24J / 267 Y

The new A333s have 278 seats: 36J / 242Y.



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User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1750 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 5867 times:

must be for the training of crew and ground staff....

Does IB need to complete some hours before getting a longer ETOP certification?? that can be an issue as well.

I also expect to see the A333 sometimes flying to LAD, Canary Islands and TLV.

I think IB will have a blast with this machine, and they will regret not to order them 5 or 6 years ago... they are going to have 36J and 242Y so still with big premium cabin and more pax in economy compare with the A343 and cheaper to operate...


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5449 times:

There's a lot of connecting traffic on this route - I've used it flying to Latin America from London - so the capacity is presumably needed permanently, and the A330 will be cheaper to operate than the A343.

Don't understand why IB chose CF6s for their A330s though!



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User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5240 times:
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Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 6):
Don't understand why IB chose CF6s for their A330s though!

Ask AY why they also ordered A333's with CF6's  



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

Quoting teme82 (Reply 7):

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 6):
Don't understand why IB chose CF6s for their A330s though!

Ask AY why they also ordered A333's with CF6's

It's not as if IB have any CF6s in their current fleet, they operate T500s on their A346s and BA of course operate loads of RR powered planes. Indeed with IAG's current and future fleet of T500, T800, with the T900 and T1000 to come, and a strong possibility of future TXWB powered A350s to come, they could have had a full set!

But enough of this PM style rant 



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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4841 times:

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 6):
Don't understand why IB chose CF6s for their A330s though!

They do provide maintenance for the (CF6-equipped) Spanish Air Force A310's, though that's only two planes, so nothing huge. Maybe they want to build up a CF6 3rd party maintenance capability?

Quoting migair54 (Reply 5):
I think IB will have a blast with this machine, and they will regret not to order them 5 or 6 years ago...

Definitely. At that time, the A333's MTOW had already been sufficiently improved that IB could have ordered them for their route network; precious time has been lost.


User currently offlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 894 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4744 times:

Given the IB strike this week, are the A333 flights still due to come into LHR ?

User currently offlineLofty From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

Flt Desg Eff Date Dis Date Freq Dept Arp Dept Time Arvl Arp Arrv Time Subfleet
IB 3162 21-Feb-13 21-Feb-13 ...4... MAD 08:20 LHR 09:50 IB 333
IB 3162 28-Feb-13 03-Mar-13 ...4..7 MAD 08:45 LHR 10:15 IB 333
IB 3162 25-Feb-13 04-Mar-13 1...... MAD 08:30 LHR 10:00 IB 333
IB 3166 08-Feb-13 22-Feb-13 ....5.. MAD 15:55 LHR 17:20 IB 340
IB 3166 23-Feb-13 23-Feb-13 .....6. MAD 15:55 LHR 17:20 IB 320
IB 3166 20-Feb-13 25-Feb-13 1.34..7 MAD 15:55 LHR 17:20 IB 333
IB 3166 28-Feb-13 28-Feb-13 ...4... MAD 16:10 LHR 17:35 IB 333
IB 3166 01-Mar-13 08-Mar-13 .2.45.. MAD 15:55 LHR 17:20 IB 346
IB 3166 14-Mar-13 15-Mar-13 ...45.. MAD 15:55 LHR 17:20 IB 346
IB 3166 10-Mar-13 17-Mar-13 ......7 MAD 15:55 LHR 17:20 IB 333
IB 3166 20-Mar-13 27-Mar-13 ..3.... MAD 15:55 LHR 17:20 IB 342
IB 3166 21-Mar-13 29-Mar-13 .2.45.7 MAD 15:55 LHR 17:20 IB 346
IB 3167 08-Feb-13 22-Feb-13 ....5.. LHR 18:40 MAD 22:10 IB 340
BA522 20-Feb-13 25-Feb-13 1.34..7 LHR 18:40 MAD 22:10 IB 333
BA522 28-Feb-13 28-Feb-13 ...4... LHR 18:55 MAD 22:25 IB 333
BA522 01-Mar-13 08-Mar-13 .2.45.. LHR 18:40 MAD 22:10 IB 346
BA522 14-Mar-13 15-Mar-13 ...45.. LHR 18:40 MAD 22:10 IB 346
BA522 10-Mar-13 17-Mar-13 ......7 LHR 18:40 MAD 22:10 IB 333
BA522 20-Mar-13 27-Mar-13 ..3.... LHR 18:40 MAD 22:10 IB 342
BA522 21-Mar-13 29-Mar-13 .2.45.7 LHR 18:40 MAD 22:10 IB 346
BA522 13-Feb-13 20-Feb-13 ..3...7 LHR 17:40 MAD 21:10 IB 340
BA522 05-Feb-13 21-Feb-13 .2.4... LHR 17:40 MAD 21:10 IB 346
BA522 06-Mar-13 13-Mar-13 .23.... LHR 17:40 MAD 21:10 IB 333
IB 3172 13-Feb-13 20-Feb-13 ..3...7 MAD 14:55 LHR 16:20 IB 340
IB 3172 05-Feb-13 21-Feb-13 .2.4... MAD 14:55 LHR 16:20 IB 346
IB 3172 06-Mar-13 13-Mar-13 .23.... MAD 14:55 LHR 16:20 IB 333
BA524 03-Mar-13 04-Mar-13 1.....7 LHR 20:15 MAD 23:50 IB 333
BA514 21-Feb-13 25-Feb-13 1..4... LHR 11:10 MAD 14:45 IB 333
BA514 28-Feb-13 03-Mar-13 ...4..7 LHR 11:25 MAD 15:00 IB 333
BA514 04-Mar-13 04-Mar-13 1...... LHR 11:10 MAD 14:45 IB 333
IB 3180 03-Mar-13 04-Mar-13 1.....7 MAD 17:25 LHR 18:50 IB 333


User currently offlineBritishB747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting Lofty (Reply 11):

Where did you get this detailed information? Was looking to fly on the Iberia A340 during the summer. I can find out what flight is operated by the A340 but it doesnt tell me whether its a -600 or a -300. Would rather go on a -300 or a combination of both.

Thanks.



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Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2355 times:
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