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United/Cont. Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 15  
User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 days ago) and read 41795 times:
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As the previous thread was quite lengthy please continue the discussion here if so desired.

Previous thread:
United/Cont. Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 14 (by LipeGIG Dec 10 2012 in Civil Aviation)

274 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineqfatwa From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 41733 times:

The data:

Added N832HK.

United - Mainline REMAINING = 26 [3 x 752 not to be painted] : Total (176/202).
B744 (12/23) 104-105 [2], 107, 116-117 [2], 119, 127-128 [2], 177, 180, 197, 199. [One in Charter Livery]
B752 (89/92) [former UA] 502-516 [15], 518-526 [9], 528-530 [3], 533-541/543-581/584-590/592-598 [62]. Remaining unlikely to be repainted - planned for fleet exit soon.
B763 (22/35) 643-644 [2], 647, 652-653 [2], 656-657 [2], 663-677 [15].
B772 (52/52) [former UA] 204, 206, 209-229 [21], 768-769 [2], 771-788 [18], 791-799 [9] ..... COMPLETED,

United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (504/504) = 100%
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (67/67) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (5/5)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (22/22) former CO
B787 (6/6) 901-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________

United Express - Total Express REMAINING (268/439)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (3/8) 266SK, 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (10/22) 16541-14542 [2], 11544, 11547, 16559, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573, 16999.
ERJ-145 Trans States (7/20) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 832HK, 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-13988 [11], 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (14/38) 631RW-639RW [9], 641RW-642RW [2], 653RW, 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (33/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-728SK [3], 730SK, 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-768SK [4], 771SK, 774SK..
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (5/14) 820AS, 829AS, 829AS-830AS [2], 835AS.
CRJ-200 SkyWest (50/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 979SW-980SW [2], 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/14) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551, 81556 -87557 [2].
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].

United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
_______________________________________________

TOTAL (1109/1,306) = 84.83%
______________________________________________________________________________

INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS

Airbus new interior bins
A319: 4026, 4029, 4049,
A320: 4207, 4230, 4249, 4656, 4258, 4266, 4280, 4285, 4287, 4291, 4293, 4295, 4298

New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies

B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (14/14=100%) - Complete
TOTAL (97/104-93.26%)

* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.

New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet

B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)

Economy Plus conversion
COMPLETED - 772; 764 (Four Hawaii aircraft not included); 752; 73G (Four Micronesia aircraft not included); 735.

NOT COMPLETED:
753 - 1 Ship : 0854.
739 - 13 Ships : 0443-0455.
738 - 31 Ships : 0260-0277; 0519-0531...... (Eight Micronesia aircraft not included).

[Edited 2013-02-19 20:23:52]

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 41670 times:

Quoting qfatwa (Reply 1):

It was confirmed in the previous thread that the first HI config went in for mods as well.


User currently offlineje89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 41577 times:
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Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 2):
It was confirmed in the previous thread that the first HI config went in for mods as well.

Yes, N69063 is already in HKG and is the first of four Air Mike birds to receive the same interior as the other 12 B764s.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 41546 times:

Quoting je89_w (Reply 3):
Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 2):
It was confirmed in the previous thread that the first HI config went in for mods as well.

Yes, N69063 is already in HKG and is the first of four Air Mike birds to receive the same interior as the other 12 B764s.

And it could be that the first UA 772A Hawaiian aircraft is in the shop. N215UA has been in SFO since 1/22 - not sure the reason. If new config, expected to keep 2-5-2 in back and move 7 across Business seats to the front of the aircraft with probably 5 rows of 7 for a config of 35-312.


User currently offlineantoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1579 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 41358 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 253):
photo confirms N832HK in new colors

I worked that one today, thought she looked a bit shiny...


Does anyone know if a standard interior color scheme has been picked for regional aircraft or if they're just leaving them with whatever they've already got (even after heavy checks) until they retire the current frames?

As much as I was a CO fan, I do prefer the UAEx interior scheme on the ExpressJet birds... I never got the lavender and grey mix on the COEx operation.



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User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 41151 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 4):
N215UA has been in SFO since 1/22 - not sure the reason. If new config, expected to keep 2-5-2 in back and move 7 across Business seats to the front of the aircraft with probably 5 rows of 7 for a config of 35-312.

Flying UA201 tomorrow SFO-HNL-GUM.

Also, N768UA and N799UA have both been in SFO since monday...


User currently offlinejayunited From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 980 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 41092 times:

If the curet expectation are correct United will go from 6 777 in domestic configuration to 13 777. Why would United need so many domestic 777's? The only 2 markets to Hawaii where I can see UA needing to add domestic 777's is LAX-HNL and probably EWR-HNL. DEN-HNL market is all over the place at times its a 757, 767 and there was even a time when UA did use a 777 but it seems like a 767 should be enough capacity on this route and as far as IAD-HNL putting a 777 on that route would be to much capacity. The 764 UA currently uses on this route is probably the right amount that this market can support dumping a 777 with 315 seats in coach on this route just seems like a waste.

So besides the Hawaii market what other domestic markets need a 777 because since the merger sUA use of wide body aircraft on domestic routes has been reduced drastically in favor of increasing the number of non stops in particular markets and moving/refurbishing those domestic aircraft to international service/routes.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 41069 times:

Quoting jayunited (Reply 7):
If the curet expectation are correct United will go from 6 777 in domestic configuration to 13 777.

It will be 9, 3 more 772s will receive IPTE and 3 of the remaining old international config will go to domestic, plus the current 6.

The 14 763s that were converted to 2-class international were more or less replaced by 12 753s, and now the 4 764 HI configs will be replaced by 3 high density 772s. The original 6 will be kept domestic as well. They are not adding high-density capacity, they are standardizing around 2 types to shift other widebodies to international lift and growth. In fact,, they are actually reducing the total number high-density aircraft.


User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 628 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 40833 times:

Quoting jayunited (Reply 7):
Why would United need so many domestic 777's?

I expect they'll be utilized on all the mainland routes currently having widebodies to Hawaii -- SFO, ORD, EWR, IAD, and IAH -- which will, in the cases of EWR, IAD, and IAH, represent an increase in seats. LAX, now essentially all-757 to Hawaii, could see one, but I doubt it.  

GUM to NRT and HNL will use 3-4 frames of the total 9, and that pretty much does it. I wouldn't be surprised if HNL-NRT went this way too, even though that flight is now on 3-class aircraft.

Also, UA will no doubt occasionally continue to fly 763s, 764s, and 777s to the Islands in int'l config. as they do now.

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 8):

  


User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3679 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 40784 times:

Does UA's SEA-NRT flight use the 77A or will they upgauge the product?


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User currently onlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6003 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 40757 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 10):
Does UA's SEA-NRT flight use the 77A or will they upgauge the product?

No it's usually flown by the ER...the 77A can fly the route, and has as a sub however.

Quoting antoniemey (Reply 5):
Does anyone know if a standard interior color scheme has been picked for regional aircraft or if they're just leaving them with whatever they've already got (even after heavy checks) until they retire the current frames?

I don't think they have picked a standard interior color scheme for any of the aircraft yet....the 752 refresh uses the same fabric in Y as on the IPTE birds while new 739ERs use the CO standard.... 



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 40684 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 11):
No it's usually flown by the ER...the 77A can fly the route, and has as a sub however.

Lately it's been getting A-model birds pretty regularly.

Tu 19FEB - N779UA (A)
We 20FEB - N796UA (ER)
Th 21FEB - N772UA (A)
Fr 22FEB - N779UA (A)

I've been surprised to notice a few A-model birds on SFO flights recently too, most notably on UA885 SFO-KIX a week or two ago. I had no idea the A-models could reasonably fly that far.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 40645 times:

14 aircraft 763ER 2 Class Intl Lie Flat upgrade program is now complete.
N666UA is now en route HKG-SFO 6868/21Feb.

763ER Maint:
N673UA Entered GSO 6853/20Feb
N676UA Should Exit GSO soon - Flew test hop 6869/20Feb.

Quoting n515cr (Reply 6):
Also, N768UA and N799UA have both been in SFO since monday...

N786UA could just be replacing N215UA. which is sked to exit tomorrow. It also could be the first conversion to hawaiian config.
N799UA is an ER unit and is to get ITPE. N786UA is already in SFO for ITPE with an estimated exit around 3/7/13. Doubt if there will be two in ITPE mod at the same time.

752 Maint:
N561UA sked to exit MIA 239/22Feb
N517UA (ps unit) entered SFO 2/3/13 - potential this aircraft is being pulled from service. It was on an exit list


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 40501 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
N786UA could just be replacing N215UA

Any word on if 215UA has the updated HI config? It was there a month, surely that's enough time to replace 5-6 rows of seats? Or is the plan still to use p.s. seats vs the old international recliners?


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 40416 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
N799UA is an ER unit and is to get ITPE. N786UA is already in SFO for ITPE with an estimated exit around 3/7/13. Doubt if there will be two in ITPE mod at the same time.

It's also the one that got aborted from IPTE after the 787 grounding.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
N517UA (ps unit) entered SFO 2/3/13 - potential this aircraft is being pulled from service. It was on an exit list

Makes sense - it's one of the last 757s in blue.

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 14):
Any word on if 215UA has the updated HI config? It was there a month, surely that's enough time to replace 5-6 rows of seats?

It would also required certification. Looks like it's flying UA201 today and the seat map shows the old config.


User currently offlineordramper98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 40281 times:

New 737-900 N37468 aircraft #3468 is enroute to MCO from BFI. Flight number is UAL 6853.

User currently offlineje89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 40201 times:
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Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 14):
updated HI config?

How different will the updated Hawaii config be from the current one? In terms of passenger experience, will there be PTV in Y?


User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1738 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 40079 times:
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Quoting n515cr (Reply 15):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
N517UA (ps unit) entered SFO 2/3/13 - potential this aircraft is being pulled from service. It was on an exit list

Makes sense - it's one of the last 757s in blue.

My internal list, albiet a tad dated, shows this ship slated for retirement February 2013.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 39993 times:

738 Maint:
N33292 exited INT 6856/21Feb - Probably routine Maint

763ER maint:
Looks like N676UA was to exit GSO, but returned to the gate 6869/20Feb

319 WiFi:
N819UA sked to enter IND 6879/22Feb - probable WiFi


User currently offlineTankereng From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 39867 times:

Does anyone know if the Skywest EMB-120s are going to be repainted?

User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 39763 times:

N517UA is exit completed, parked and awaiting crew for a ferry flight to TUP.

757 exit roster probably mirrors 737-900ER inductions. Can see out to June 2014.



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 39527 times:

763ER maint:
N676UA exited GSO 6867/22Feb - no mod done, aircraft already in new 2 Class config.

A 319 WiFi:
N814UA exited IND 6860/22Feb - presume WiFi, but unconfirmed

Reliable information from Flyer Talk thread indicates these aircraft have WiFi:
A319:
N801UA through N811UA
N813UA, N815UA, N823UA, N847UA
A320:
N435UA, N468UA
B747:
N104UA, N181UA

772 Paint:
N775UA sked to exit VCV 6878/23Feb - completes 772 Globe paint program
Expect a 763 or 744 to enter VCV, but not seen a ferry flight yet.

738 Maint:
N27205 sked to enter INT 6852/23Feb

752 Maint:
Looks like N570UA entered MIA 334/22Feb


User currently offlinecooterbill From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 39400 times:

Quoting Tankereng (Reply 20):

The plan is to begin the repaint of the EMB-120s during the second quarter of this year.


User currently offlinecosyr From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 39284 times:

Quoting cooterbill (Reply 23):
The plan is to begin the repaint of the EMB-120s during the second quarter of this year.

I can't wait. Haven't seen a 120 in that livery since CO in CLE.


User currently offlineTankereng From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 39353 times:

Quoting cooterbill (Reply 23):

Thanks! I am flying on one next month on my way to Hawaii, and was curious. Looking at the list I have a chance to fly a "battleship" gray aircraft.


User currently offlineqfatwa From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 39428 times:

Quoting ordramper98 (Reply 16):
New 737-900 N37468 aircraft #3468 is enroute to MCO from BFI. Flight number is UAL 6853.
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 21):
N517UA is exit completed, parked and awaiting crew for a ferry flight to TUP.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 22):
772 Paint:
N775UA sked to exit VCV 6878/23Feb - completes 772 Globe paint program

United - Mainline REMAINING = 24 : Total (34/58).
B744 (12/23) 104-105 [2], 107, 116-117 [2], 119, 127-128 [2], 177, 180, 197, 199. [One in Charter Livery]
B763 (22/35) 643-644 [2], 647, 652-653 [2], 656-657 [2], 663-677 [15].


United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (646/646) = 100%........ [plus 2 not to be repainted].
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (68/68) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B752 (89/91) [former UA] 502-516 [15], 518-526 [9], 528-530 [3], 533-541/543-581/584-590/592-598 [62].
...................... Remaining 2 aircraft unlikely to be repainted - planned for fleet exit soon.
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (5/5)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (74/74) combined.
B787 (6/6) 901-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________

United Express - Total Express REMAINING (268/439)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (3/8) 266SK, 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (10/22) 16541-14542 [2], 11544, 11547, 16559, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573, 16999.
ERJ-145 Trans States (7/20) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 832HK, 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-13988 [11], 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (14/38) 631RW-639RW [9], 641RW-642RW [2], 653RW, 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (33/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-728SK [3], 730SK, 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-768SK [4], 771SK, 774SK..
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (5/14) 820AS, 829AS, 829AS-830AS [2], 835AS.
CRJ-200 SkyWest (50/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 979SW-980SW [2], 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/14) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551, 81556 -87557 [2].
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].

United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
_______________________________________________

TOTAL (1110/1,307) = 84.92%
______________________________________________________________________________

INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS

Airbus new interior bins
A319: 4026, 4029, 4049,
A320: 4207, 4230, 4249, 4656, 4258, 4266, 4280, 4285, 4287, 4291, 4293, 4295, 4298

New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies

B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (14/14=100%) - Complete
TOTAL (97/104-93.26%)

* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.

New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet

B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)

Economy Plus conversion
COMPLETED - 772; 764 (Four Hawaii aircraft not included); 752; 73G (Four Micronesia aircraft not included); 735.

NOT COMPLETED:
753 - 1 Ship : 0854.
739 - 13 Ships : 0443-0455.
738 - 31 Ships : 0260-0277; 0519-0531...... (Eight Micronesia aircraft not included).


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 27, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 39566 times:

Widebody Maint:

763ER N656UA Sked to Exit GSO 6849/24Feb
763ER N565UA sked to Enter GSO 6863/24Feb

744 N118UA Sked to Exit PEK 6864/25Feb

753 E+/DTV
N74851 sked to Exit INT 6880/24Feb with DTV/E+
Do not see N75854 entering INT yet - only non-E+/DTV non-ETOPS bird left


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 28, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 39427 times:

Why not just fit out the entire 753 fleet, ETOPs aircraft, with the DirecTV, the ETOPs birds do make rotations within the lower 48 in addition to the Hawaii flights. Or go with AVOD like sCO's 757s and the planned newly reconfigured PS 757s.


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User currently offlinecosyr From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 39340 times:

Quoting qfatwa (Reply 26):
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-13988 [11], 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].

Almost nothing has happened with these planes in months. I get all the UAX planes not being in a hurry to repaint, but these are the only planes left that say Continental (other than the Retrojet) It seems like United would want to nip these 7 planes, particularly since they just need to retitle. Is it likely that they are done and just not confirmed, or has anyone out there seen these seven still wearing Continental Express?


User currently offlineBFinSF From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 39304 times:

Quoting cosyr (Reply 29):
Is it likely that they are done and just not confirmed, or has anyone out there seen these seven still wearing Continental Express?

Not sure which one was observed, but one RON'd at LGA on 2/13. I was surprised to see it.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 31, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 39275 times:

Darn, it looks like 772 N768UA is operating 201/24Feb today SFO-HNL, still in its old International copnfiguration - was hoping it would get new Hawaiian configuration.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
Why not just fit out the entire 753 fleet, ETOPs aircraft, with the DirecTV, the ETOPs birds do make rotations within the lower 48 in addition to the Hawaii flights. Or go with AVOD like sCO's 757s and the planned newly reconfigured PS 757s.

Maybe that will follow, but since they have IFE and fly mostly Hawaii, it should be more important to place DTV on the 13 739ERs (3456-3468) that have E+ but were delivered with no IFE.

Maybe the programming is a bit different, but there are 79 sUA 752s (plus about 150 Airbues) flying mostly domestic with the same overhead IFE as the ETOPS 753's. Putting AVOD on them would still give them a subfleet, but could be considered if the product is about the same install price and superior to DTV over the Pacific.

Once 753 #3854 goes through INT, we'll see which aircraft are next. I hope its the 739ERs, followed by the 738 mid lavs and then the 753 ETOPS.

[Edited 2013-02-24 11:37:20]

User currently offlineantoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1579 posts, RR: 4
Reply 32, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 39058 times:

Quoting cosyr (Reply 29):
It seems like United would want to nip these 7 planes, particularly since they just need to retitle. Is it likely that they are done and just not confirmed, or has anyone out there seen these seven still wearing Continental Express?

There were 8, but one was done last month-ish. 2 or 3 of them need a full paint job. I see them semi-regularly in BNA... two RONed the same night a week or two ago.



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 33, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 38910 times:

752 Fleet Exit:
N517UA (winglets) sked ferry to TUP 6876/25Feb - I think TUP usually means scrap

Maint:
763 N656UA Exited GSO 2/24/13 after extended 2+ month heavy check.

744 N118UA Now to Exit HKG 6869/26Feb after extended 7+ week heavy check.

738 N27213 Entered INT 6855/25Feb
This puts 2 738s in INT, don't expect last 753 due for DTV/E+ to enter INT soon

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 27):
763ER N565UA sked to Enter GSO 6863/24Feb

Error aircraft is a 752, not 763: - N565UA entered GSO 2/24

[Edited 2013-02-25 07:21:57]

[Edited 2013-02-25 07:46:28]

User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1738 posts, RR: 12
Reply 34, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 38891 times:
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ExpressJet flew another 2 ERJ-135's out of Kingman to IAH last week. Assuming these are being added to the operating fleet soon.

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 35, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 38551 times:

753 E+/DTV
N75851 sked to Exit INT 6880/24Feb with DTV/E+ FLIGHT CXLD still in INT

New delivery 739ER
N38467 Sked to exit MCO 6860/26Feb

772 Maint:
N794UA sked to enter PEK 6857/25Feb - will check later to see if it's Maint or a positioning flight

752 Maint:
N523UA sked to enter GSO 6861/27Feb - Maint only, I presume


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 36, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 38478 times:

Anyone know what's up with N179UA?
Looks like it flew LAX to SYD on Thursday, with a Saturday return cancelled, and the poor lady is still there in Sydney, as near as I can tell.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 37, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 38382 times:

N179UA sked to ferry SYD-SFO 6873/27Feb - not sure why it cxld


753 E+/DTV
N75851 now sked to Exit INT 68849/26Feb with DTV/E+

752 Maint:
N566UA sked to exit GSO 6862/28Feb - maint only


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 38, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 38199 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 37):

N179UA sked to ferry SYD-SFO 6873/27Feb - not sure why it cxld

Aah, the maintenance hub... on a ferry, it must be a fairly significant issue. With QF, the world's foremost 747 expert, right there in SYD, I'm having a hard time figuring out just what would warrant a ferry permit. Yikes.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 39, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 38170 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 38):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 37):

N179UA sked to ferry SYD-SFO 6873/27Feb - not sure why it cxld

Aah, the maintenance hub... on a ferry, it must be a fairly significant issue. With QF, the world's foremost 747 expert, right there in SYD, I'm having a hard time figuring out just what would warrant a ferry permit. Yikes.

It doesn't mean the aircraft is a maintenance ferry. United uses ferry numbers 6849-6880 and 7945-7974 all the time to move aircraft around.

The flight was cancelled and out of position and I assume the aircraft needs to move back to the U.S. Unless there was a cross cancellation.


User currently offlineDC8FanJet From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 37614 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 36):
Anyone know what's up with N179UA?
Looks like it flew LAX to SYD on Thursday, with a Saturday return cancelled, and the poor lady is still there in Sydney, as near as I can tell.

ramp damage at SYD


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 41, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 37422 times:

A319 WiFi:
N817UA sked to enter IND 6849/27Feb

744 Paint:
N105UA sked to exit VCV 6857/28Feb
N175UA sked to enter VCV 6856/28Feb


User currently onlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6003 posts, RR: 9
Reply 42, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 37413 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 12):
Lately it's been getting A-model birds pretty regularly.

Interesting...I was going off memory. Looks like they are keeping the old product on the route.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 38):
With QF, the world's foremost 747 expert, right there in SYD, I'm having a hard time figuring out just what would warrant a ferry permit. Yikes.

Probably cheaper to do the work in-house and QF has been outsourcing more and more MTC to MNL lately so who knows what assets they have available at this point to work on another airlines aircraft....UA has been working on the 747 since 1970 and SFO TechOps is more then capable of dealing with whatever is thrown its way.



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User currently offlineqfatwa From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 37392 times:

Quoting DC8FanJet (Reply 40):
ramp damage at SYD

I heard that a set of stairs was blown into the aircraft by the wind causing damage. I work at Sydney Airport.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 44, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 37223 times:

772A Maint or Mod:
N210UA sked PEK 6859/2Mar
Could this be the Hawaiian reconfig?


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 45, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 36815 times:

735 fleet exit:
N14628 sked to ferry 3/1/13 HOU-PSM (Maine) probably en route to Europe
N17627 is returning to service today, was in LCQ. Not a fleet exit yet.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 44):
772A Maint or Mod:
N210UA sked PEK 6859/2Mar
Could this be the Hawaiian reconfig?

Reliable source confirms no mod for this unit in PEK- maint only

752 Maint:
N555UA (ps) exited IND 6866/28Feb - no mods

753 Maint:
N57857 entered MIA 6874/28Feb for maint
don't see N57857 exiting MIA yet.


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 46, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 36770 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 33):
752 Fleet Exit:
N517UA (winglets) sked ferry to TUP 6876/25Feb - I think TUP usually means scrap

Ooo a winglet bird? Why would they scrap this one?



"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 47, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 36789 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 46):
Ooo a winglet bird? Why would they scrap this one?

Lease expired, returned to lessor. Given the aircraft's age, number of hours/cycles and the resale market for a PW-powered 757, its owner obviously feels they will get a better return with a part-out, so next stop is the scrapper's torch, unfortunately.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 48, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 36459 times:

739ER New Delivery:
N37468 exited MCO 1719/2Mar

N73G Maint:
N16701 entered INT 6854/2Mar - assume just maint

319WiFi:
N819UA now sked to enter IND 6856/3Mar

763ER maint:
N644UA sked 6858/6870/3Mar SFO-HNL-HKG for maint


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 49, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 36005 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 46):
Ooo a winglet bird? Why would they scrap this one?
Quoting CODC10 (Reply 47):
Lease expired, returned to lessor.

So who owns the winglets? The lessor or United? Any chance that these winglets will go to a non-winglet bird?


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 50, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 35610 times:

753 Maint:
N74856 now sked to exit MIA 6879/5Mar

772 Maint:
N784UA sked to exit PEK 888/5Mar
N77019 exited HKG 116/5Mar
N78009 appears to have entered HKG 117/3Mar
N210UA has not ferried to PEK - will be maint only - no mod

744 Maint
appears N117UA entered PEK 889/3Mar

738 Maint:
N27205 sked to exit INT 6851/6Mar
N73276 sked to enter INT 6880/6Mar

Republic Q400 N203WQ has been reported to have F seating.

[Edited 2013-03-04 22:27:04]

User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 35552 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 50):
N73276 sked to enter INT 6880/6Mar

A mid-lav bird...interesting.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 52, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 35582 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 51):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 50):
N73276 sked to enter INT 6880/6Mar

A mid-lav bird...interesting.

Probably just maint as the 4 previous 738s into INT have been in about 10 days each. While INT was announced as a mod station for the 738/379s, doubt INT would be doing the conversion from Mid lav to standard config. We'll know in about 10 days, unless someone else has more info.


User currently offlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 35300 times:

Anyone know if the 744s are going to get AC power in Y? I thought I read on SeatGuru that installation would be complete sometime in 2013.

User currently offlinemohunk From United States of America, joined May 2007, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 35285 times:

KOA-LAX week and a half ago was ex CO 757 with no channel 9 yet. When will they complete channel 9 installation on all mainline aircraft?

User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 34924 times:

Correction (swap) for the Trans States fleet. It looks like N808HK is now in US colors - per a 2012 picture. (807HK already in US colors). The total remains 20.

Per Airways Mag, N834HK joined the fleet from Passaredo on 3/1. Noted as house colors for now...


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 56, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 34658 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 50):
772 Maint:
N784UA sked to exit PEK 888/5Mar

Oops, that was N794UA that exited PEK

319 WiFi:
N819UA exited IND 6857/6Mar

772 possible ITPE:
N786UA sked to exit SFO 331/8Mar
N791UA sked to enter PEK 6851/7Mar (recent ITPE units done in SFO, but previous in PEK)

737NG Maint:
738 N27213 sked to exit INT 6857/8Mar
738 N73276 sked to enter INT 6880/6Mar
739 N35407 sked to enter INT 6856/7Mar

752 maint:
N519UA exited MCN 6863/7Mar
N528UA entered MCN 6862/6Mar

735 fleet exit?:
N32626 entered HOU 6860/4Mar
N16632 been in IAH since 2/28 - will monitor

Express:
CRJ700 N754SK is in Globe paint
E170 N857RW is in Globe Paint
Q400 N339NG and N203WQ now have F Class


User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 26
Reply 57, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 34335 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 56):
735 fleet exit?:
N32626 entered HOU 6860/4Mar
N16632 been in IAH since 2/28 - will monitor

The infamous aircraft 626 is in fleet exit status.



UNITED We Stand
User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 58, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 34213 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 57):
The infamous aircraft 626 is in fleet exit status.

Why is it infamous? Is the ship where the mechanic got sucked into the engine?


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 34059 times:

Photos confirm new colors:
ExpressJet N14923: http://www.flickr.com/photos/japb777/8301416051/
ExpressJet N827AS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/planes/8510438418/
ExpressJet N828AS: http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=02294521
ExpressJet N832AS: http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=02294507

[Edited 2013-03-08 17:19:25]

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 60, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 33959 times:

772 ITPE CORRECTION:
N771UA (Not N791UA) entered PEK 6851/7Mar - Aircraft already has ITPE, so will be a maint visit at PEK
N799UA looks to be in SFO for ITPE - No flight activity since 3/5

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 58):
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 57):
The infamous aircraft 626 is in fleet exit status.

Why is it infamous? Is the ship where the mechanic got sucked into the engine?

Unfortunately yes.
http://www.aviation-office.com/offic...6-boeing737-524-elpaso-tx-pro.html


User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 26
Reply 61, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 33798 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 60):
N771UA (Not N791UA) entered PEK 6851/7Mar - Aircraft already has ITPE, so will be a maint visit at PEK

Not seeing that one. Maint visits for aircraft #8416, #8417 and #2029.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 60):
N799UA looks to be in SFO for ITPE - No flight activity since 3/5

IPTE for aircraft #2999.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 60):
Unfortunately yes.

Also was the fleet number of Flight #1713, a DC-9-10 registration N626TX, at Denver's Stapleton Airport.



UNITED We Stand
User currently offlineCOPolynesianPub From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 33638 times:

Can someone clarify something? I was at IAH this morning, March 9th trying to nonrev UA984 from IAH to LAX. The a/c was a UA757 in the UA tulip livery. I thought they were all painted into the globe livery. Was this a reinfuction of an a/c that was parked?
Thanks!


User currently offlinehhslax2 From Bahrain, joined Jan 2012, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 33567 times:

Quoting COPolynesianPub (Reply 62):
Can someone clarify something? I was at IAH this morning, March 9th trying to nonrev UA984 from IAH to LAX. The a/c was a UA757 in the UA tulip livery. I thought they were all painted into the globe livery. Was this a reinfuction of an a/c that was parked?

N527UA is the only non PS bird in tulip livery. Flightaware says it flew IAH-LAX this morning.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 64, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 33388 times:

319 WiFi:
N817UA exited IND 6851/9Mar
N816UA entered IND 68050/9Mar

73NG Maint:
739 N25407 sked to exit INT 6879/10Mar (only in INT 3 days)
738 N14231 sked to enter INT 6880/10Mar

772 Maint:
N210UA shows sked to exit PEK 6860/10Mar
Aircraft did show into PEK 3/4, so it looks like a short 6 day maint visit

752 Maint:
N562UA entered GSO 6874/9Mar

319 New bins:
Reported N802UA has new bins installed

[Edited 2013-03-09 21:39:28]

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 65, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 33109 times:

744 maint:
N107UA (in PEK since 2/18/13) sked to exit 6857/12Mar

772 Maint:
N779UA Sked to enter PEK 6851/12Mar (non-ITPE non-ER unit, but don't expect any mod work)

763 maint: N673UA exited GSO 7963/10Mar


User currently offlineHypoxik From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 33132 times:

CALTECH
I noticed one of the 73's had the tapes going tonight. Did they "flip the switch" and kill all the six packs?



California Native. KIWA, PHOG, KEWR, KIAH, KLAX, KIAH, KEWR, KORD
User currently offlineqfatwa From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 32835 times:

739 N36469 delivered.

Added Expressjet N828AS & N832AS, and N14923.

United - Mainline REMAINING = 24 : Total (34/58).
B744 (12/23) 104-105 [2], 107, 116-117 [2], 119, 127-128 [2], 177, 180, 197, 199. [One in Charter Livery]
B763 (22/35) 643-644 [2], 647, 652-653 [2], 656-657 [2], 663-677 [15].


United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (647/647) = 100%........ [plus 2 not to be repainted].
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (69/69) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B752 (89/91) [former UA] 502-516 [15], 518-526 [9], 528-530 [3], 533-541/543-581/584-590/592-598 [62].
...................... Remaining 2 aircraft unlikely to be repainted - planned for fleet exit soon.
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (5/5)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (74/74) combined.
B787 (6/6) 901-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________

United Express - Total Express REMAINING (271/439)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (3/8) 266SK, 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (11/22) 16541-14542 [2], 11544, 11547, 16559, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573, 14923, 16999.
ERJ-145 Trans States (7/20) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 832HK, 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-13988 [11], 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (14/38) 631RW-639RW [9], 641RW-642RW [2], 653RW, 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (33/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-728SK [3], 730SK, 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-768SK [4], 771SK, 774SK..
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (7/14) 820AS, 827AS-830AS [4], 832AS, 835AS.
CRJ-200 SkyWest (50/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 979SW-980SW [2], 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/14) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551, 81556 -87557 [2].
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].

United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
_______________________________________________

TOTAL (1114/1,308) = 85.16%
______________________________________________________________________________

INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS

Airbus new interior bins
A319: 4002, 4026, 4029, 4049.
A320: 4207, 4230, 4249, 4656, 4258, 4266, 4280, 4285, 4287, 4291, 4293, 4295, 4298.

New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies

B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (14/14=100%) - Complete
TOTAL (97/104-93.26%)

* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.

New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet

B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)

Economy Plus conversion
COMPLETED - 772; 764 (Four Hawaii aircraft not included); 752; 73G (Four Micronesia aircraft not included); 735.

NOT COMPLETED:
753 - 1 Ship : 0854.
739 - 13 Ships : 0443-0455.
738 - 31 Ships : 0260-0277; 0519-0531...... (Eight Micronesia aircraft not included).


User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 68, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 32817 times:

Quoting Hypoxik (Reply 66):

I noticed one of the 73's had the tapes going tonight. Did they "flip the switch" and kill all the six packs?

Ongoing process. All new deliveries will have the tapes (PFD/ND). The existing fleet will be reprogrammed over the course of the next few months. Each jet takes 8-10 hours as it is a software/pin change. I've heard all done by August but CALTECH will likely have a better estimate.


User currently offlineHypoxik From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 32528 times:

Thanks. Sad to see the 500's go. But the six'r looks odd on the DU's.


California Native. KIWA, PHOG, KEWR, KIAH, KLAX, KIAH, KEWR, KORD
User currently offlinedurangomac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 32075 times:

It was just announded on the SkyWest internal web site that the EMB-120 will start repaint in May. Sounds like just one line at the moment. I'll try to update as they go in for paint.

User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 71, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 31892 times:
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Quoting durangomac (Reply 70):
It was just announded on the SkyWest internal web site that the EMB-120 will start repaint in May. Sounds like just one line at the moment. I'll try to update as they go in for paint.

There seems to be only one type left -- the ones with both galley and lav in the front.

I haven't seen any E120 airframes with the galley in the back for quite a while.


User currently offlinedurangomac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 31862 times:

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 71):
There seems to be only one type left -- the ones with both galley and lav in the front.

I haven't seen any E120 airframes with the galley in the back for quite a while.

Most of SkyWest's E120's are rear galley and lav actually. I show 29 rear galley and 13 forward galley aircraft.


User currently offlineTankereng From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 31677 times:

Just flew on SkyWest's E120,N568SW, last Wednesday, and it had a rear galley. It was painted in the light blue United colors.

User currently offlineac888yow From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 74, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 31632 times:

Can someone please help to clarify something for me?

I'll be flying UA15 and UA144 later this year (EWR-HNL-IAD) on a J reward and I'd like to know if I should expect the new BusinessFirst lieflat seats. The online seatmap seems to indicate as much, but I don't know how reliable that is.

For what it's worth, the seat map shows a J config of 8 rows of 2-1-2 seating. Thanks in advance for any help.


User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 75, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 31601 times:

Quoting ac888yow (Reply 74):
I'll be flying UA15 and UA144 later this year (EWR-HNL-IAD) on a J reward and I'd like to know if I should expect the new BusinessFirst lieflat seats. The online seatmap seems to indicate as much, but I don't know how reliable that is.

Currently these flights are scheduled as 764 HD flights, the 20J/236Y configuration. However, there were only 4 of these birds - 063, 064, 065, 066 - and now only 3, as ship 063 is across the Pacific getting reconfigured into the international 39J/203Y. Once 063 gets back in rotation, the next 764 HD will head into mods for 39J/203Y reconfiguration.

Where all this is going is.... for the months of April and May, the IAD-HNL and EWR-HNL flights seem to alternate between 764 international and 764 HD. Then from about May onward, they seem to show a permanent assignment of 764 international birds, once the last few HD's are converted to 39J/203Y.

So it really depends when you intend to go.... April or May you have about a 50/50 shot of getting the new product - it really will just depend on the day of the week and if you're lucky or not. June onward - you *should* be pretty well guaranteed the new configuration.


User currently offlineac888yow From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 76, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 31350 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 75):

Many thanks for the information. I'll be flying in September/October so it seems luck is on my side.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 77, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 31299 times:

744 Paint: N118UA entered VCV 6862/13Mar-
N175UA exited VCV 6876/13Mar
744 Maint:
N107UA exited PEK 6857/12Mar
N175UA sked to enter PEK 6850/16Mar

772 Maint:
N229UA sked to exit PEK 6869/15Mar
N771UA sked to exit PEK 6852/15Mar, then sked to reenter PEK 6858/17Mar
N779UA entered PEK 6851/12Mar

763 maint:
N644UA sked to exit HKG 6868/16mar
N647UA entering HKG 6867/14Mar

320 Bins?:
N469UA exited LCQ 6880/14Mar
N470UA entered LCQ 6880/14Mar

73G Maint:
N16701 exited INT 6856/12Mar
N24702 entered INT 6855/12Mar
N15710 was in and out of INT 3/11 to 3/13

[Edited 2013-03-14 23:43:56]

User currently offlineordramper98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 31085 times:

757, Aircraft 5996 N596UA has been at IND for months. I'm pretty sure it was in for conversion to the new "PS" product. It finally flew a test hop today. Hopefully it's ready to go back into service.

User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 79, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 30998 times:

Quoting ordramper98 (Reply 78):

757, Aircraft 5996 N596UA has been at IND for months. I'm pretty sure it was in for conversion to the new "PS" product. It finally flew a test hop today. Hopefully it's ready to go back into service.

While I have nothing to base my conjecture on, I'd say it's *very* unlikely that 5996 will be a new p.s. bird. The 59xx series denotes winglet ETOPS ships. Considering the p.s. birds only fly between 3 different airports all the live long day, it'd be a gross waste of an ETOPS-capable aircraft, of which I believe there are only 13 in the sUA 757 fleet.

We'll know soon enough, of course, I just hope for the sake of the company that they didn't just completely waste an ETOPS unit on p.s. mods, haha.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 80, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 31000 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 79):
While I have nothing to base my conjecture on, I'd say it's *very* unlikely that 5996 will be a new p.s. bird. The 59xx series denotes winglet ETOPS ships. Considering the p.s. birds only fly between 3 different airports all the live long day, it'd be a gross waste of an ETOPS-capable aircraft, of which I believe there are only 13 in the sUA 757 fleet.

We'll know soon enough, of course, I just hope for the sake of the company that they didn't just completely waste an ETOPS unit on p.s. mods, haha.

I believe this is the first reconfigured p.s. bird.

While it seems incongruous that a p.s. ship be ETOPS-rated, keep in mind that the company may have other designs for these aircraft. I'm not saying I know more than anyone else, but with a few upgrades, it's not outside the realm of possibility that these aircraft could also serve on some premium-heavy transatlantic routes as well.


User currently offlineDC8FanJet From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 31022 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 79):
While I have nothing to base my conjecture on, I'd say it's *very* unlikely that 5996 will be a new p.s. bird. The 59xx series denotes winglet ETOPS ships. Considering the p.s. birds only fly between 3 different airports all the live long day, it'd be a gross waste of an ETOPS-capable aircraft, of which I believe there are only 13 in the sUA 757 fleet.

We'll know soon enough, of course, I just hope for the sake of the company that they didn't just completely waste an ETOPS unit on p.s. mods, haha.

PS birds fly 6 hour legs all day, exactly why the winglet aircraft are assigned. This aircraft is indeed the first "new" PS
configured 757.


User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 30960 times:

Why are we not tracking the conversion of Q400's to first class. A friend of mine just asked me how many had been converted...I came here and nothing. Can this be added to this list of interior modifications?

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 83, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 30704 times:

319 WiFi:
N816UA exited IND 6879/15Mar (WiFi unconfirmed)
N818UA entered IND 6880/16Mar

738 Maint:
N16217 entered INT 6850/16Mar
N73276 exited INT 6851/15Mar

Quoting Joeljack (Reply 82):
Why are we not tracking the conversion of Q400's to first class.

I'm tracking on the UA fleet webs site when receiving report on this and other forums.
I show the following Q400s with F
191WQ, 203WQ, 204WQ, 208WQ
323WG, 328WG, 333WG, 339WG
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 84, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 30422 times:

738 Maint:
N14231 exited INT 3/12/13

752 New ps Config:
N596UA sked to exit IND 6855/17Mar (to LAX) should have new ps config. - first one completed


User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 85, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 30383 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 84):
N596UA sked to exit IND 6855/17Mar (to LAX) should have new ps config. - first one completed

So this aircraft is the first to receive the 28 BusinessFirst, 48 EconomyPlus & 66 Economy Class configuration? There are 15 due for this treatment, presumably the 12 PS birds, N596UA and two others? Does anyone have word on which two the others are and presumably the 68xx are the new fleet numbers?


User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3214 posts, RR: 13
Reply 86, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 30332 times:

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 85):
Does anyone have word on which two the others are and presumably the 68xx are the new fleet numbers?

68xx would be referring to its ferry flight number out of IND  

All sUA 757's will retain 5000-series ship numbers.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 87, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 30283 times:

The first reconfigured PS aircraft was not previously a PS aircraft, so it's possible all the new PS birds could be new to PS service. Also the seat map is already on UA's website for tomorrow's flight.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlinecooterbill From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 30055 times:

N532UA is currently flying JFK-SFO, which will be its last revenue flight for United. Will begin fleet exit tomorrow (March 18). N596UA will replace it in the PS fleet.

User currently offlineAtlflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 29936 times:

Any photos of a reconfigured ps bird yet?

User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 90, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 29548 times:

Can we get a count put in for all sUA 757s that are getting interiors refreshed (aside PS). They likely are entering MIA and GSO.


"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 91, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29362 times:

744 Maint:
N116UA sked to exit PEK 888/20Mar
N105UA could be replacing N116UA in PEK 3/19

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 90):
Can we get a count put in for all sUA 757s that are getting interiors refreshed (aside PS). They likely are entering MIA and GSO.

The refresh program to my knowledge was being done at MCO. It seems to have stopped at MCO. the following were confirmed with refresh at MCO.
all aircraft below are NxxxUA
536, 540, 541, 547, 549, 581, 582, 585 - aircraft were in and out in 7 days

It is assumed that MIA and GSO are heavy maintenance stations. I'd love to be enlightened if refresh is being done at these or other stations like IND.
The N numbers of aircraft that have been through or are in MIA are 570, 559, 561 and GSO 566, 565, 523, 562.

[Edited 2013-03-18 23:02:56]

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 92, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 29068 times:

752 Maint:
N522UA sked to exit MCN 6859/21Mar
N579UA sked to enter MCN 6863/20Mar

772 Maint:
N779UA sked to exit PEK 6859/20Mar

744 Maint:
N105UA entered PEK 889/18Mar
N175UA was sked to PEK, but is in SFO - was in VCV paint until 3/13


User currently offlinepenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 28789 times:

Quoting qfatwa (Reply 67):
United - Mainline REMAINING = 24 : Total (34/58).
B744 (12/23) 104-105 [2], 107, 116-117 [2], 119, 127-128 [2], 177, 180, 197, 199. [One in Charter Livery]
B763 (22/35) 643-644 [2], 647, 652-653 [2], 656-657 [2], 663-677 [15].

Will 653 be repainted? It is in the STAR ALLIANCE billboard scheme.

In the Star Scheme:
767:
653UA
76055

747:
121UA

777:
218UA
794UA
78017
76021
77022

737:
26210

757:
14120


User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 94, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 28729 times:

Quoting penguinflies (Reply 93):

GUM 73G 720 is also in star paint.


User currently offlinequiet1 From Thailand, joined Apr 2010, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 28589 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 92):
772 Maint:
N779UA sked to exit PEK 6859/20Mar

Is N779UA now in IPTE configuration?


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 96, posted (1 year 7 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 28539 times:

Quoting penguinflies (Reply 93):
Will 653 be repainted? It is in the STAR ALLIANCE billboard scheme.

653 was already repainted in the post-merget STAR scheme.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 97, posted (1 year 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 28235 times:

Quoting quiet1 (Reply 95):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 92):
772 Maint:
N779UA sked to exit PEK 6859/20Mar

Is N779UA now in IPTE configuration?

No, it was only in PEK for 7 days and will be going to the Hawaiian config at some point.

319 WiFi:
N818UA sked to exit IND 6857/22Mar

752 Maint:
N521UA sked to exit IND 6862/22Mar
N526UA sked to enter IND 6860/22 Mar
N579UA sked to enter MCN 6880/21Mar
N522UA sked to exit MCN 6879/22Mar

73G Maint:
N24702 sked to exit INT 6856/22Mar
N14704 sked to enter INT 6855/22Mar

Quoting penguinflies (Reply 93):
In the Star Scheme:

747:
121UA

This aircraft is in Star with UA logos - will need a repaint or at least a touch-up with new logo.

[Edited 2013-03-21 21:38:53]

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 98, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 27796 times:

73NG Maint:
738 N16217 exited INT 6856/23Mar
739 N79402 entered INT 6855/23Mar

763ER Maint:
N648UA sked 6851&6866/24Mar SFO-HNL-HKG (3 class aircraft)

With the departure of N532UA, the mainline fleet stands at 351 PsCO and 351 sUA units. This includes the grounded 787s and potentially a sCO 735 and maybe sUA 752 that may be exiting the fleet.
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/fleet-total-upgrades


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 99, posted (1 year 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 27400 times:

Any idea what is going on with the remaining 737 E+ mods. I understand the mid cabin lab 738s need a lot of work, but what about the others 738s and 739s?

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 100, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 26998 times:

752 Maint:
N563UA exited MCN 6850/25Mar
N520UA entered MCN 6849/25Mar

763ER Maint:
N647UA sked to exit HKG 6867/26Mar
N648UA enterecd HKG 6866/24Mar

772 maint:
N78009 sked to exit HKG 116/26Mar
N78005 looks like it entered HKG maint after flight 117/24Mar

sUA 752 exit list:
The FedEx/UA 752 pruchase thread states UA 752 fleet exit dates for 2012:
3/13 508UA
4/13 527UA
5/13 506UA
7/13 573UA, 574UA
8/13 503UA, 507UA, 511UA, 515UA, 519UA, 554UA, 555UA
9/13 557UA, 560UA
11/13 525UA, 533UA
12/13 509UA, 544UA

The thread noted that beginning in Sept, 739ER units will be going into the sUA fleet. This makes sense as 735s are to be replaced by the next new 739ER, then 752s will be replaced by 739ERs.
The 739ERs are to still be designated 737-924ER. Let's hope that specific flights may be operated by 739ER units, but that sUA crews will not be tied to those exact aircraft units. Does anyone see this an a potential operational performance issue?


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 101, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 26999 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 100):
The 739ERs are to still be designated 737-924ER. Let's hope that specific flights may be operated by 739ER units, but that sUA crews will not be tied to those exact aircraft units. Does anyone see this an a potential operational performance issue?

Well yes, it's shortsighted. How CO of them.

If they are going to send out 20ish sUA 757s, they better have suitable replacements for the crews. Doesn't sound like they have a proper game plan for this.



"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 102, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 27041 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 100):
The thread noted that beginning in Sept, 739ER units will be going into the sUA fleet.

I still don't understand why they've chosen to make the distinction. Why not just add them to the CO fleet, and fly them to UA destinations, like they're already doing hundreds of times a day???

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 100):
Does anyone see this an a potential operational performance issue?

Not sure.

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 101):
Doesn't sound like they have a proper game plan for this.

I bet you're right; I bet someone's secretary came up with this plan, with no forethought whatsoever.
For the love, get off your high horse and live with the merger. Belly aching about it won't bring back your beloved (yet flawed...) United Airlines.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 103, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 26970 times:

Isn't it completely possible (if unlikely) that they will have a combined seniority list by September and this whole sUA and sCO thing will be moot?

User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 104, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 26960 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 102):

Really? With Smisek running this airline do you honestly think something good would come out of a 739 seniority deal such as this?



"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 105, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 26930 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 104):
Really? With Smisek running this airline do you honestly think something good would come out of a 739 seniority deal such as this?

I don't really like him, but I don't see why not; while he doesn't make the POPULAR choice, he does tend to make choices which make good business sense. With limited exception.
That's more than I can say for either of UA's two previous CEO's.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 106, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 26942 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 101):
If they are going to send out 20ish sUA 757s, they better have suitable replacements for the crews. Doesn't sound like they have a proper game plan for this.

Seems to me the switch of new units to sUA is a suitable replacement for sUA crews. New deliveries are coming in all the time and they are 739ERs- after replacing retiring sCO735s, they will replace sUA757s. We can debate whether the crews will be integrated, crews will be trained, but this move keeps the crews covering retiring equipment in new replacement aircraft.

739ER new Delivery:
Nxx470 (sorry don't have the full n Number) sked to enter MCO 6879/26Mar

752 Maint:
N570UA sked to exit MIA 6879/27Mar
N543UA sked to enter MIA 6880/26Mar


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 107, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 26747 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 105):
I don't really like him, but I don't see why not; while he doesn't make the POPULAR choice, he does tend to make choices which make good business sense. With limited exception.
That's more than I can say for either of UA's two previous CEO's.

Based on how the merger is running so far, it seems like he's made very few good and popular choices. UA is still getting it's ass kicked by Delta and all he has to defend himself is the usual smoke and mirrors approach.



"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlinesulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 108, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 26705 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 107):
Based on how the merger is running so far, it seems like he's made very few good and popular choices. UA is still getting it's ass kicked by Delta and all he has to defend himself is the usual smoke and mirrors approach.

I'm starting to think that ex-girlfriend that you said you hated works for CO  

[Edited 2013-03-26 09:32:33]


In thrust we trust!
User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 109, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 26700 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 100):
The 739ERs are to still be designated 737-924ER. Let's hope that specific flights may be operated by 739ER units, but that sUA crews will not be tied to those exact aircraft units. Does anyone see this an a potential operational performance issue?

Hopefully it's just a block-hour thing. It won't take long for the distinction to be moot as SLI is coming, but UAL will probably have to start getting some sUA pilots current on the 737 again to bridge the gap.


User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 26
Reply 110, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 26363 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 103):
Isn't it completely possible (if unlikely) that they will have a combined seniority list by September and this whole sUA and sCO thing will be moot?

Very well could be.   

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 109):
Hopefully it's just a block-hour thing. It won't take long for the distinction to be moot as SLI is coming, but UAL will probably have to start getting some sUA pilots current on the 737 again to bridge the gap.

  

For some of those other low information and misinformed posters, seems they believe that the CEO of United should just layoff those sUAL 757 pilots as their planes retire and hire new pilots off the street to fly the 737-900ERS as they arrive, rather than get some sUAL pilots to fly the 737-900ER. Glad these misinformed aren't running United, what a real disaster that would be.

To counter some of the misinformation and Continental / United hate out there, the CEO of United has little to do with these seniority integration negotiations. It is the responsibility of the two work groups to come up with something acceptable to the combined workforce. It will be the vote of the union members whether this becomes part of the final contract or not. Then the company and CEO will decide whether to accept this or not. As far as I know, there has been nothing about seniority for the pilots or tehnicians sent to the company.

The Technician seniority integration talks are still ongoing, there are some very different rules in place for the two workgroups. It is said, by the technician's union, that there has been some progress. The end might even be in sight, but these negotiations have been going on for quite a while. The sCAL and sUAL technicians even have the same union and these negotiations have been going on for a while. The CEO of United has very little to do with this process, no matter what some CEO CAL / UAL haters want to believe.

It is very nice to see new aircraft arriving. Hate seeing any 757s being retired.



UNITED We Stand
User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 111, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 26250 times:

744 Paint:
N118UA exited VCV 6878/26Mar
No cross ferry sked into VCV - there are about 3 non-Globes transiting SFO today - maybe there is a mx issue with another aircraft


User currently offlinejayunited From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 980 posts, RR: 2
Reply 112, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 26245 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 109):
Hopefully it's just a block-hour thing. It won't take long for the distinction to be moot as SLI is coming, but UAL will probably have to start getting some sUA pilots current on the 737 again to bridge the gap.

I was on the employee shuttle bus here at ORD and there were a few UA and CO pilots on the bus and they all were talking about the seniority integration and how the union needs to just get this done and over with especially with UA retiring some 757 this year. There were a couple of sUA pilots who said they loved the 737 and can't wait to get back on them so hopefully the union will resolve this situation soon and sUA pilots can start getting current on the 737 and sCO pilots can start flying sUA aircraft. Although I have to admit I have yet to here a sCO pilot say they are looking forward to flying an A320/19, which is kind of strange you hear UA pilots talking about the 737 but at least here at ORD I haven't heard a single CO pilot say they are looking forward or want to fly the A320/19?


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 113, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 26199 times:

Quoting jayunited (Reply 112):
Although I have to admit I have yet to here a sCO pilot say they are looking forward to flying an A320/19, which is kind of strange you hear UA pilots talking about the 737 but at least here at ORD I haven't heard a single CO pilot say they are looking forward or want to fly the A320/19?

The perception is that the 737 is more of a 'pilot's airplane' whereas on the Airbus you're more 'along for the ride', but there are certainly those who have other preferences too. I know some former UA guppy drivers who are looking forward to getting back on the 737, and especially the NG as it is a faster, more modern version of the 737 Classics. As for the CO side, it's fair to say that most pilots have no A32X experience, and the old A300s that were taken out of service 15+ years ago were not compatible with the newer Airbus common flight deck.

The other thing is that some Airbus and B756 FOs might be senior enough to hold a CA position on the 737 once SLI is reached. As the most junior Captains at sUA have nearly 20 years in, there are a lot of late-1990s hires who have been looking to upgrade for a long time, and watching pilots 5-10 years their junior holding the left seat on 737s with CAL. With retirements and expansion, some gradual upward mobility might finally be realistic.


User currently onlineFlyHossD From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 903 posts, RR: 2
Reply 114, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 26172 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 110):
Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 103):
Isn't it completely possible (if unlikely) that they will have a combined seniority list by September and this whole sUA and sCO thing will be moot?

Very well could be.   

I believe it will be later than September. As I recall, the last arbitration session is set for late August, but I'd expect additional sessions - and the somewhat inevitable delays for one reason or another - thus delaying the combined or integrated seniority list. My guess is that the decision will be issued by Thanksgiving.

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 110):
It is the responsibility of the two work groups to come up with something acceptable to the combined workforce. It will be the vote of the union members whether this becomes part of the final contract or not.

There won't be a vote by the union members. It's already in binding arbitration.

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 110):
Then the company and CEO will decide whether to accept this or not.

The company has already agreed to accept whatever list is presented.



My statements do not represent my former employer or my current employer and are my opinions only.
User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 115, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 26068 times:

If there is no ISL by the time the first airplane shows up to replace an S-UA 757, SUA pilots should be trained to fly them. To that end it's not the same as getting a brand new type added to the fleet. While SUA does not operate the NG, SCO does and since we all technically fall under the same umbrella it's not a situation of starting a training program from scratch for approval. My guess is if no SLI SUA will run a vacancy bid with 737 positions and SUA pilots will go to IAH for training. If there is an SLI then it won't matter as contractually the SUA pilots will be able to bid the 737 as seniority allows as a combined workgroup.

Personally I'm sad to see the 757s go as I think it is a far better airplane to the 737. At least from a cockpit comfort perspective it's replacing a Caddy with a SmartCar.


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 116, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 26060 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 113):
The perception is that the 737 is more of a 'pilot's airplane' whereas on the Airbus you're more 'along for the ride', but there are certainly those who have other preferences too. I know some former UA guppy drivers who are looking forward to getting back on the 737, and especially the NG as it is a faster, more modern version of the 737 Classics. As for the CO side, it's fair to say that most pilots have no A32X experience, and the old A300s that were taken out of service 15+ years ago were not compatible with the newer Airbus common flight deck.

I have to say, the more I fly on the A320, the more facilitated I become with it. Even though it can get technical fairly often.



"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlineHypoxik From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 117, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 25904 times:

The 739ER is not a suitable replacement for a 752. The sky interior helps, but the refurbished interior 75s are still better.


California Native. KIWA, PHOG, KEWR, KIAH, KLAX, KIAH, KEWR, KORD
User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1738 posts, RR: 12
Reply 118, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 25779 times:
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Quoting Hypoxik (Reply 118):
The 739ER is not a suitable replacement for a 752. The sky interior helps, but the refurbished interior 75s are still better.

Agreed. Tell that Boeing though   Pilots certainly will agree as the 752 is a hot rod.


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 119, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 25702 times:

Quoting n7371f (Reply 119):
Agreed. Tell that Boeing though Pilots certainly will agree as the 752 is a hot rod.

Boeing is lame these days  



"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 120, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 25635 times:

764ER Lie Flat:
N69063 sked to exit HKG 6851/29Mar
N76064 Sked to enter HKG 6850/28Mar

After 744 N118UA left VCV, Reported Widebody Paint line may be stopped for Peak Season

753 Maint:
N57857 sked to exit MIA 6874/28Mar
N75858 entered MIA 6876/27


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 121, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 25553 times:

Quoting Hypoxik (Reply 118):
The 739ER is not a suitable replacement for a 752. The sky interior helps, but the refurbished interior 75s are still better.

Actually, it is a suitable replacement... most of the time. Most of the carriers aren't using the full capability of the 752, so a 739 will fit their needs just fine, on quite a bit less fuel. I certainly prefer the 757 over the 737, but I'm not the one paying the bills.
And, while you opine that the refurb 757-222 are better, I'd point out that the dispatch reliability of the 737 makes it the bird of choice for me... I have yet to fly a CO/UA 737 that had potable water on MEL... not so the sUA 752!

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 121):
Reported Widebody Paint line may be stopped for Peak Season

Oh you've GOT to be kidding! Yet another summer goes by with no 747 repaints. Nearly half of the fleet is still in blue U, and they're not in the best shape!
At least they got 175 painted.... what an embarrassment, with all of that bare aluminum behind the hump!


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 122, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 25541 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 121):
764ER Lie Flat:
N69063 sked to exit HKG 6851/29Mar
N76064 Sked to enter HKG 6850/28Mar



So the remaining 764s are indeed getting the reconfiguration, exciting stuff. Flew on one of the reconfigured 764s HNL-EWR last September and even 10 hrs in Y was doable thanks to the excellent AVOD. Hopefully they keep the 764s on EWR-HNL, it's the right sized aircraft with the best product. The Hawaii 777s are too big and the lack of AVOD too much of a hassle for such a long flight.



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User currently offlinefun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1057 posts, RR: 1
Reply 123, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 25512 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 121):
764ER Lie Flat:
N69063 sked to exit HKG 6851/29Mar
N76064 Sked to enter HKG 6850/28Mar

After 744 N118UA left VCV, Reported Widebody Paint line may be stopped for Peak Season

753 Maint:
N57857 sked to exit MIA 6874/28Mar
N75858 entered MIA 6876/27

Finally, a post about a/c painting. Let's take the other discussions to their own thread.

Good news on the 764 AirMike conversion.

Can we get an updated progress chart?


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 124, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 25504 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 123):
Hopefully they keep the 764s on EWR-HNL, it's the right sized aircraft with the best product. The Hawaii 777s are too big and the lack of AVOD too much of a hassle for such a long flight.

For now, the plan is to keep a 764 on EWR-HNL. Houston changes to a 3-cabin 777 next month, DEN gets one in June for the peak summer season, then IAD gets DEN's 777 on August 14, along with new flight times. 2 of the SFO-HNL flights are domestic 777s, as is the daily ORD-HNL. One SFO-HNL frequency is still in the schedule with a reconfigured 764 as of June, with 1 764 due to RON (likely mx) at HNL turning to a 6am HNL-SFO the next day.


User currently offlinejayunited From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 980 posts, RR: 2
Reply 125, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 25457 times:

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 124):
Good news on the 764 AirMike conversion.

Can we get an updated progress chart?

I believe that once N69063 reenters service that only 3 (64,65,66 if I'm not mistaken) 764 will be left that will still need to be reconfigured from HI domestic service to international. After the 764 are finished I believe all United 767-300 and 400 will be configured for international use.

So after UA has finished with the 767 will they then start refreshing the domestic 777? And if so who has the contract to refresh those airplanes will it be done in house at United maintenance facilities in SFO, or will it be done in HKG or PEK does anyone know where and when those planes will start to be reconfigured?


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 126, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 25049 times:

Per Airways Mag, 2x Silver B1900Ds have been sold:
N81538 (COEx c/s)
N82539 (Globe c/s)

11 left in the fleet, 3 of which are in COEx colors.


Also, photo shows ExpressJet ERJ N13908 (UA) in new colors

[Edited 2013-03-29 23:18:01]

User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1579 posts, RR: 4
Reply 127, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 24780 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 127):
Also, photo shows ExpressJet ERJ N13908 (UA) in new colors

I KNEW that paint job looked super fresh when I saw her this week...



Make something Idiot-proof, and the Universe will make a more inept idiot.
User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 24676 times:

Found the info below on the UA 777 thread and thought it might be of interest for this discussion since it notes that the last tulip 752, N527UA, is leaving the fleet tomorrow (thanks STT757 for posting it!)

Quoting STT757 (Reply 14):
Here are the sUA 757s scheduled to leave within the next year:

757-200 EXIT N527UA 3/30/2013 4/1/2013 MQ 4/1/2013
757-200 EXIT N506UA 5/1/2013 5/1/2013 MQ 6/9/2013
757-200 EXIT N573UA 7/2/2013 7/2/2013 MQ 7/30/2013
757-200 EXIT N574UA 7/2/2013 7/2/2013 MQ 7/30/2013
757-200 EXIT N503UA 8/27/2013 8/27/2013 MQ 10/8/2013
757-200 EXIT N507UA 8/27/2013 8/27/2013 MQ 10/8/2013
757-200 EXIT N511UA 8/27/2013 8/27/2013 MQ 10/8/2013
757-200 EXIT N515UA 8/27/2013 8/27/2013 MQ 10/8/2013
757-200 EXIT N519UA 8/27/2013 8/27/2013 MQ 10/8/2013
757-200 EXIT N554UA 8/27/2013 8/27/2013 MP 10/1/2013
757-200 EXIT N555UA 8/27/2013 8/27/2013 MP 10/1/2013
757-200 EXIT N557UA 9/27/2013 9/27/2013 MP 10/1/2013
757-200 EXIT N560UA 9/27/2013 9/27/2013 MP 10/1/2013
757-200 EXIT N525UA 11/5/2013 11/5/2013 MP 11/30/2013
757-200 EXIT N533UA 11/5/2013 11/1/2013 MQ 12/1/2013
757-200 EXIT N509UA 12/19/2013 12/19/2013 MQ 12/19/2013
757-200 EXIT N544UA 12/19/2013 12/19/2013 MQ 1/1/2014
757-200 EXIT N539UA 1/4/2014 1/1/2014 MQ 2/1/2014
757-200 EXIT N514UA 1/4/2014 1/4/2014 MQ 1/1/2014
757-200 EXIT N538UA 1/8/2014 1/8/2014 MQ 2/1/2014
757-200 EXIT N540UA 2/14/2014 2/14/2014 MQ 3/1/2014
757-200 EXIT N513UA 3/1/2014 2/14/2014 MQ 3/1/2014
757-200 EXIT N541UA 3/1/2014 3/1/2014 MQ 4/1/2014
757-200 EXIT N516UA 4/1/2014 4/11/2014 MQ 4/11/2014
757-200 EXIT N520UA 5/1/2014 5/12/2014 MQ 5/12/2014
757-200 EXIT N524UA 6/1/2014 6/14/2012 MQ 6/14/2014

They consist of:

11 1990 builds
8 1991 builds
6 1992 builds


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 129, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 24559 times:

I didn't post that info, I just checked what years they were manufactured. Another poster provided the fleet list.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 130, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 24569 times:

Quoting n515cr (Reply 129):
the last tulip 752, N527UA, is leaving the fleet tomorrow

Fantastic. I flew on that plane March 9, and it was in sad shape inside. Some of the most creative uses of RTV I've ever seen.... I took notes, as I've been known for creative use of RTV myself. But clearly, United's boys put me to shame!
But seriously, time to go.


User currently onlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 24438 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 130):
I didn't post that info, I just checked what years they were manufactured. Another poster provided the fleet list.

My mistake.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 132, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 24285 times:

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 133):
I stand by my original statement - binding arbitration has begun.

It's my understanding that the sUA Merger Committee withdrew from the mediated talks. So the next step is arbitration.

What does this have to do with fleet upgrades?


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 133, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 23963 times:

739ER New Delivery
N37470 sked to exit MCO 6850/2Apr E+ no DTV or IFE

752 Fleet exit:
N527UA reported to have left fleet at SFO - was last narrowbody with tulip scheme

752 Maint - potential interior refresh:
N590UA appears to be eontering MCO 6858/2Apr (interior Refesh?)
N565UA exited GSO 6853/1Apr
N513UA entered GSO 6853/1Apr
N520UA exited MCN 6852/29Mar

735 Fleet exit??
N14629 entered HOU 6856/30Mar - possible fleet exit

Now for the routine maint: - if not interested, just don't read it

739 Maint: Not sure of the nature of the maint.
N79402 exited INT 6861/1Apr
N37413 entered INT 6860/1Apr

73G Maint:
N14704 exited INT 6849/30Mar
N16703 entered INT 6863/30Mar

763ER Maint:
N648UA sked to exit HKG 6868/4Apr
N649UA sked to enter HKG 6869/4Apr

772 Maint:
N778UA sked to enter PEK 6857/3Apr

[Edited 2013-04-01 23:09:48]

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 134, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 23628 times:

Checking United.com Flight Status, found following additional A319s with WiFi:
(N8xxUA) 814, 815, 816, 817, 818, 819, 822, 835

735 Fleet Exit:
N32626, sked to ferry HOU to Goodyear, AZ 6849/4Apr


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 135, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 23620 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 133):

752 Fleet exit:
N527UA reported to have left fleet at SFO - was last narrowbody with tulip scheme

752 Maint - potential interior refresh:
N590UA appears to be eontering MCO 6858/2Apr (interior Refesh?)
N565UA exited GSO 6853/1Apr
N513UA entered GSO 6853/1Apr
N520UA exited MCN 6852/29Mar

The 757 refreshes and sell offs make no sense. N520 is older than N527 and it's getting refreshed? What exactly is the criteria for how they decide this?



"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
User currently offlinesulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 136, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 23538 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 135):
The 757 refreshes and sell offs make no sense. N520 is older than N527 and it's getting refreshed? What exactly is the criteria for how they decide this?

"Continental" management does it to enrage and confuse you - duh!

In the case of 527, it was actually owned by the company.

520 is leased from Wells Fargo. The lease probably isn't up yet...



In thrust we trust!
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 137, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 23473 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 135):
The 757 refreshes and sell offs make no sense. N520 is older than N527 and it's getting refreshed?

There are many criteria for which airplanes go and which stay, even if all else was equal (which it isn't). Minor age differences have virtually nothing to do with it. Major age differences (i.e., "we want to retire all airplanes delivered between 1985 and 1995, while keeping the newer ones") probably do.
But ownership versus lease status is one thing. Another thing that we mechanics push for is to get rid of hangar queens first. We all want to get rid of Christine... at least, out on the line. The hangar guys might like the job security...


User currently offlinefun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1057 posts, RR: 1
Reply 138, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 23119 times:

How about an old fashioned summary table ?

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 139, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 23061 times:

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 140):
How about an old fashioned summary table ?

  

This thread is starting to stray from it's original intent.

I asked a while back about the status of the 737 E+ upgrades, as far as I can tell none of the remaining few (738 mid-lav, some of the first 739 Sky Interior, and the handful of 738 Sky Interior) have gone in for mods.

Why is UA waiting to modify these? If they have enough slack in the schedule to have a bunch of 752s in for cabin refresh, surely they could take a 737 out for a couple days to add E+?


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 140, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 23024 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 141):
This thread is starting to stray from it's original intent.

The intent of this thread is to monitor and report upgrades, paint jobs, new/exiting units, etc., etc. I don't know why UA isn't putting E+ in some remaining 738s and 739s, but many of these sets of aircraft require an STC as they would be the first aircraft with that exact configuration. I could be that the 787 grounding has a profound ripple effect on the entire fleet.

I am as frustrated as you are, but the intent of the thread isn't changed if UA isn't doing the upgrades.

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 135):
The 757 refreshes and sell offs make no sense. N520 is older than N527 and it's getting refreshed? What exactly is the criteria for how they decide this?

Tommy, the only one that might be getting a refresh was N590UA, the MCO unit. I don't think GSO is doing refresh.


User currently onlineFlyHossD From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 903 posts, RR: 2
Reply 141, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 22932 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 132):
What does this have to do with fleet upgrades?

It was a correction to earlier erroneous information. I do agree with you, though, that it wasn't about any fleet upgrades.

Or should I let mistakes stands "as is?"



My statements do not represent my former employer or my current employer and are my opinions only.
User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 142, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 22824 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 142):

I was referring to the bickering about management...

Thanks for the info. Do the 739s need an STC given that new ones are being delivered with E+?


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 143, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 22732 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 144):
Thanks for the info. Do the 739s need an STC given that new ones are being delivered with E+?

Group #1) 3443/3444 have DTV, no E+, Non Sky - same config as 3413-3442 - should be no STC needed with E+ mod

Group #2) 3445-3455 Have DTV, No E+, are Sky, so need STC

Group #3) 3456-3470 No DTV, Have E+, are Sky, may need an STC

If Group 2 got an STC, maybe that would suffice for Group 3 as the final configuration would be exactly the same for both Groups. Same should apply if Group 3 got the STC first.


User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 26
Reply 144, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 22669 times:

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 114):
I believe it will be later than September. As I recall, the last arbitration session is set for late August, but I'd expect additional sessions - and the somewhat inevitable delays for one reason or another - thus delaying the combined or integrated seniority list. My guess is that the decision will be issued by Thanksgiving.

Hopefully before the end of the year then, or is that just a guess?

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 114):
There won't be a vote by the union members. It's already in binding arbitration.

Didn't and do not believe it went into binding arbitration yet. Hadn't heard that, but did get this item,

https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/DesktopModules/ViewDocument.aspx?DocumentID=49185
"SLI Arbitration Hearings to Begin in April
Arbitration hearings on the SLI have been scheduled to begin in April.
April 15-20
May 11-15
June 11-13
June 18-20
June 27-28"

"Each side will present opening statements on April 15. The Continental Representatives will present their direct case April 15-20. The United Representatives will present their direct case May 11-15."

So it is not in binding arbitration yet, it seems ?

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 114):
The company has already agreed to accept whatever list is presented.

Well, that was the point. The two groups would get a list and present it to the company. This was in response to some on here, that think it is the fault of United management that negotiations are not over and done yet. The Technician groups are trying to get a seniority list integration together too. Same with other work groups.


Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 144):
I was referring to the bickering about management...
Thanks for the info. Do the 739s need an STC given that new ones are being delivered with E+?
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 145):
Group #1) 3443/3444 have DTV, no E+, Non Sky - same config as 3413-3442 - should be no STC needed with E+ mod
Group #2) 3445-3455 Have DTV, No E+, are Sky, so need STC
Group #3) 3456-3470 No DTV, Have E+, are Sky, may need an STC
If Group 2 got an STC, maybe that would suffice for Group 3 as the final configuration would be exactly the same for both Groups. Same should apply if Group 3 got the STC first.


Have to look into it. The projects are coming, but I do believe STCs will be needed for all of them. Have seen the mid-lav removal project in the works.



UNITED We Stand
User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 145, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 22485 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 141):
Tommy, the only one that might be getting a refresh was N590UA, the MCO unit. I don't think GSO is doing refresh.

IIRC, MIA and GSO are also taking care of the refreshes as well.



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 146, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 22292 times:

From FT thread, confirming following will become ps fleet with new configuration:
(N5xxUA)
546, 589, 590, 595, 596, 597 ETOPS/Winglets (596 complete)
598 ETOPS/ no Winglets
587, 588 overwater
568, standard domestic
502, 503, 510, 512, 518, ps units today with winglets no ETOPS
These changes will leave UA with 9 ETOPS non-ps units to cover hawaiian flying along with the 12 sCO 753s.

739ER Maint:
N37413 exited INT 6849/4Apr
N47414 entered INT 6863/4Apr

752 Maint:
N507UA entered MCN 6860/3Apr
N505UA exited MCN 6855/4Apr
N527UA Fleet Exit flew SFO Test Hop 6870/4Apr. Whrer to next??


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 147, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 22185 times:

A couple things about the new PS aircraft:

I'm surprised by the fact that some are newer aircraft, 1999, 1998, 1997 but they also have a couple 1989, three 1990 and one or two 1991s thrown in there (with a couple 1993s sandwiched in the middle). I would have thought they would have gone with all 1993 or newer aircraft since these 757s will probably be the last sUA Pratt powered 757s to be retired in the future.

Also six of the aircraft are ETOPs, is that a big deal or is there something to that fact? I know UA now has the 757-300s and 737s to fly California-Hawaii so the sUA ETOPs 757s could be redeployed. Anything plans for the ETOPs PS aircraft that would require their ETOPs certifications?



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 148, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 22117 times:

I would image at some point ps service will go with 739ER or 739MAX aircraft. The use of the older 752 units may be a tip off to length the service will stay with 752s.

When ps goes 739, the ETOPS units offer the option of TATL routes the sCO 752s are currently flying, but with a higher mix of premium seating as the new ps configuration is basically an sCO 752 with more BF seats.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 149, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 22079 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 149):
I would image at some point ps service will go with 739ER or 739MAX aircraft. The use of the older 752 units may be a tip off to length the service will stay with 752s.

Is it also possible these particular older frames simply have lower cycles relative to the rest of the fleet? Or perhaps UA will use them more as spares, given that they are increasing the p.s. fleet by 3.


User currently offlinefun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1057 posts, RR: 1
Reply 150, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 22068 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 150):
Is it also possible these particular older frames simply have lower cycles relative to the rest of the fleet? Or perhaps UA will use them more as spares, given that they are increasing the p.s. fleet by 3.

Or additional frequency or new route? SAN or SEA > JFK?

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 149):
I would image at some point ps service will go with 739ER or 739MAX aircraft.

Almost has to go 739MAX to compete w/AA's new rides which look sweet on transcons.

How about a summary table of conversions?


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 151, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22224 times:

The logistics of an EWRJFK transfer to operate new p.s. 757s to Europe (e.g. EWR-LHR) would be challenging. If they rotate through EWR via the West Coast, it's possible, but that would occupy a lot of time for not much benefit. I really don't see United jumping into the JFK-LHR fray, given the DL-VS consolidation there. It would be tough to compete.

The way I see it, UA will either increase frequency on the existing p.s. service, especially to LAX, or have a few EWR-LAX/SFO flights operate with p.s. birds too.

Plus, once wifi mods are carried out on the sCO 752s, they are virtually indistinguishable from the p.s. 757s aside from # of seats, so they can be operated in place of p.s. ships on weekends, holidays and on individual frequencies that generate less premium demand. Similarly, 767s can be swapped in during periods of higher demand with no change in product. This flexibility will have the effect of multiplying the p.s. fleet.


User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 152, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 22193 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 148):

I'm surprised by the fact that some are newer aircraft, 1999, 1998, 1997 but they also have a couple 1989, three 1990 and one or two 1991s thrown in there (with a couple 1993s sandwiched in the middle). I would have thought they would have gone with all 1993 or newer aircraft since these 757s will probably be the last sUA Pratt powered 757s to be retired in the future.

Are these counts for the new PS configuration or existing PS planes?

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 152):
The logistics of an EWRJFK transfer to operate new p.s. 757s to Europe (e.g. EWR-LHR) would be challenging. If they rotate through EWR via the West Coast, it's possible, but that would occupy a lot of time for not much benefit. I really don't see United jumping into the JFK-LHR fray, given the DL-VS consolidation there. It would be tough to compete.

No way. I think eventually more 767 and 777 will be on EWR-LHR.

With all the sUA 757 retirements, it will be interesting to see what domestic routes the sCO 757s will end up on (especially since the Atlantic routes are in a slump.)



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 153, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 22184 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 153):
Are these counts for the new PS configuration or existing PS planes?

New.

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 153):
With all the sUA 757 retirements, it will be interesting to see what domestic routes the sCO 757s will end up on (especially since the Atlantic routes are in a slump.)

They're putting them, sCO 757s, on EWR-BOG/IAH-BOG. Might see a few more Latin America routes.



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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2940 posts, RR: 10
Reply 154, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 21820 times:
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Perhaps this is mentioned/discussed somewhere in this long standing thread, if so, I apologize for not reading this long topic... but I am curious, I was on United last night on an international 767-400 and read in Hemispheres that soon all the 767's will have been renovated and will feature the flat beds. So, did United re-renovate the sUA 3 class 767's to be 2 class, removing Global First from sUA 767's? Or did they mean the remaining sCO 767's have been finished? Which, I thought was already done?


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User currently offlinegoldenjet707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 155, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 21829 times:

They consider the sUA 3 class birds already redone. That leaves 3 Pacific version birds, ships 64,65 and 66. Ship 64 is already in HKG. Flew on ship 63 last week, shortly after it came back from HKG. Looks new and squeaky clean!
The 200's should be retired by year's end unfortunately.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2940 posts, RR: 10
Reply 156, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 21521 times:
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Quoting goldenjet707 (Reply 156):

Oh! Great! I know that the CO leadership loathe the F cabin because it's not a money maker. Which I am sure is true. While I love United Global First (especially on a 767 or 747) it isn't good enough to pay for, because if your company contract or rich clients are willing to fork over $12k to fly you in F on a long haul, one would chose another carrier because their First is REALLY a first class experience. (unless your shooting for GS status). If Smisek is reading about the progress of his fleet renovation here, Mr Smisek up the game in Global First. Don't dump it.



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 157, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 21375 times:

To clarify, the 763 3 class units "being done" means the reconfiguration with flat beds is complete. Scores of 3 class birds will be staying in the sUA fleet, at least for the near future.

21 of 35 763ERs (14 previous domestic aircraft are now 2 class international)
23 of 23 744s
43 of 52 772s (other 9 in Hawaiian configuration).

In reality the only F service removed was domestic F from the domestic 763ERs (which will now fly international with lie flat Business seats) and the 3 772A units that will become Hawaiian units.

The systemwide net is a loss of 36 GlobalFirst seats (Hawaiian 772 conversion) and addition of 450 Lie Flat Business seats (15 763ER units now in international 2 Class).

To be fair, I guess we should include the loss 172 Global First seats with the ITPE reconfiguration going from 12 to 8 on the 43 772s - not sure if the 763 conversion had a loss in Global First when lie flat business was added.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 158, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 21357 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 158):
43 of 52 772s (other 9 in Hawaiian configuration).
Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
Why not just fit out the entire 753 fleet, ETOPs aircraft, with the DirecTV, the ETOPs birds do make rotations within the lower 48 in addition to the Hawaii flights. Or go with AVOD like sCO's 757s and the planned newly reconfigured PS 757s.
Quoting CODC10 (Reply 124):
For now, the plan is to keep a 764 on EWR-HNL.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 147):
These changes will leave UA with 9 ETOPS non-ps units to cover hawaiian flying along with the 12 sCO 753s.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 148):
Also six of the aircraft are ETOPs, is that a big deal or is there something to that fact? I know UA now has the 757-300s and 737s to fly California-Hawaii

Okay, somebody help me out here.

Exactly how many fleet types and numbers does United require to serve Hawaii?

We seem to have people allotting:
9 777's
3-4 764's
9 752's
12 753's
And a few 739's as well???

That's easily 30-40 airplanes... for low-margin Hawaii flying???


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 159, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 21220 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 159):

My guess, but it will likely end being

9 772
12 753
9 752 (replaced over time with 739ER)
A few 738 for routes like LAX-ITO

Keep in mind that for at least 4 routes (ORD, IAD, EWR, IAH, and maybe DEN to HNL, and ORD-OGG if it continues) the aircraft can only manage one r/t in a 24 hr period. There are also multiple LAX and SFO to HNL, and then all the secondary destinations (LAX/SFO/DEN-OGG, LAX/SFO-KOA, LAX/SFO-LIH, and some extra Sat only service).

UA has always been a huge carrier to the islands.


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 160, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 21205 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 159):
That's easily 30-40 airplanes... for low-margin Hawaii flying???

A common misconception. Even more-so untrue for UA as they are the largest carrier in the mainland-Hawaii market if I am not mistaken. Cargo adds a little icing to this cake as well.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 161, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21139 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 160):
Keep in mind that for at least 4 routes (ORD, IAD, EWR, IAH, and maybe DEN to HNL, and ORD-OGG if it continues) the aircraft can only manage one r/t in a 24 hr period. There are also multiple LAX and SFO to HNL, and then all the secondary destinations (LAX/SFO/DEN-OGG, LAX/SFO-KOA, LAX/SFO-LIH, and some extra Sat only service).

Good grief. I had no idea that a full 6.2% of the fleet was devoted to Hawaii flying!


User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 162, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 21130 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 162):
Good grief. I had no idea that a full 6.2% of the fleet was devoted to Hawaii flying!

Yep, because it is profitable



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User currently offlineatxpatriot811 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 21087 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 152):
Plus, once wifi mods are carried out on the sCO 752s, they are virtually indistinguishable from the p.s. 757s aside from # of seats, so they can be operated in place of p.s. ships on weekends, holidays and on individual frequencies that generate less premium demand. Similarly, 767s can be swapped in during periods of higher demand with no change in product. This flexibility will have the effect of multiplying the p.s. fleet.

So if wifi expands fleet wide, then there isn't much difference in the product between a ps 757, sCO 757, 2 cabin 763, 764, sCO 777 aside from the number of seats?

Seems like ps 757 is really just a premium heavy low density intl 757 and a sCO 757 is a high density intl 757. Kinda like the regular and hawaii 764 before the flat bed retrofit.

UA really should re-evaluate their flat bed seats. Its 2013 and 100% all aisle access is now the standard. The notion of having to jump over someone to reach the aisle or having someone jump over you to reach the aisle should not belong in a premium cabin.

However, I do hope they can find a way to keep backwards facing seats, they are actually superior for sleeping in, just wish UA would market that more, rear facing seats is one of the most counter intuitive things to the traveling public.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 164, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 20976 times:

Quoting atxpatriot811 (Reply 164):
So if wifi expands fleet wide, then there isn't much difference in the product between a ps 757, sCO 757, 2 cabin 763, 764, sCO 777 aside from the number of seats?

Pretty much.

Quoting atxpatriot811 (Reply 164):
Seems like ps 757 is really just a premium heavy low density intl 757 and a sCO 757 is a high density intl 757. Kinda like the regular and hawaii 764 before the flat bed retrofit.

Pretty much.

Quoting atxpatriot811 (Reply 164):
UA really should re-evaluate their flat bed seats. Its 2013 and 100% all aisle access is now the standard. The notion of having to jump over someone to reach the aisle or having someone jump over you to reach the aisle should not belong in a premium cabin.

What do you suggest? 1-1 in a 757? That's an ugly profit picture.
And 100% aisle access is NOT the standard on such carriers as Lufthansa, which has just introduced 2-2-2 on the 748i.
SQ may be able to offer 1-2-1, along with Swiss and some others, but UA is no SQ/LX.
AND, keep in mind, UA offers more flat beds in business than any other carrier on the planet (unless Delta caught up recently, as they intend to do). So, if you really can't stand to "climb" over another person in flight, then cough up the dough for UA Global First.

Quoting atxpatriot811 (Reply 164):
However, I do hope they can find a way to keep backwards facing seats, they are actually superior for sleeping in, just wish UA would market that more, rear facing seats is one of the most counter intuitive things to the traveling public.

Meh. I'm ambivalent about forward versus rear; the REAL joke is 2-4-2 in business in the 777. That's just one seat fewer than coach, and was a laughing stock when it was introduced seven years ago, when even the likes of lowly CO was doing 2-2-2...


User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1738 posts, RR: 12
Reply 165, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 20662 times:
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Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 165):
Meh. I'm ambivalent about forward versus rear; the REAL joke is 2-4-2 in business in the 777. That's just one seat fewer than coach, and was a laughing stock when it was introduced seven years ago, when even the likes of lowly CO was doing 2-2-2...

Agreed. Was floored when I flew one and felt jammed in like a sardine in Business Class. Even better when you're in the middle, starring at someone else directly in front of you. I like to call it Tilton Class.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2666 posts, RR: 9
Reply 166, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 20348 times:

Sorry mostly maint updates below:

320 WiFi:
Noticed N404UA and N463UA have WiFi operational

772A Maint:
N778UA exited PEK 6856/10Apr
N774UA sked to enter PEK 6857/9Apr

739 Maint:
N47414 exited INT 6857/7Apr
N39415 entered