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UA Launches EWR-ANC  
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11716 times:

As noted in the OAG thread UA will be launching twice weekly 757 (sUA) nonstop service from EWR to ANC. CO has flown EWR-ANC in the past.

I'm going to go out on a ledge and say UA serves more US States from the NYC area than any other airline. They fly to Hawaii and now Alaska nonstop from EWR.


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User currently offlineusctrojan18 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11633 times:

UA doesnt serve Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, New Mexico, Mississippi, Delware, or West Virgina from EWR. Surprised about WV but UA still flies to 43 states from EWR. Not bad.

User currently offlinejerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2026 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11562 times:
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Quoting usctrojan18 (Reply 1):
Delaware

to be fair no airline serves Delaware, DL used to at ILG but no longer does.



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User currently offlinedeltairlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8904 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11524 times:

Quoting STT757 (Thread starter):
I'm going to go out on a ledge and say UA serves more US States from the NYC area than any other airline. They fly to Hawaii and now Alaska nonstop from EWR.

This is state #38 for United out of the NYC metro area. Next closest is Delta, which isn't far behind at 33. (I'm excluding PR/VI/DC). Delta has Alabama (BHM) and Utah (SLC), United has Connecticut (BDL), Montana (BZN), Hawaii (HNL), Wyoming (JAC), Oklahoma (OKC/TUL), Rhode Island (PVD) and now Alaska (ANC).

That being said, United has 81 domestic (US+DC) destinations out of the NYC area, while Delta is right on their heels at 75 (US+DC).


User currently offlineDolphinAir747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11469 times:

Interesting, I should try it out sometime...

When did CO fly the route, and with which aircraft?


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11432 times:

EWR-ANC is 3370 miles per great circle mapper. Wonder how the route will perform. If it does perform well, i'd expect it to go to 5x weekly or daily.

KH



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User currently offlineMIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11417 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 5):
When did CO fly the route, and with which aircraft?

It may have been operating daily (if seasonally) in ~2002, with a 757-200.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11348 times:

Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 2):
Quoting usctrojan18 (Reply 1):
Delaware

to be fair no airline serves Delaware, DL used to at ILG but no longer does.

That didn't last long. It was during the brief period when UA wanted to be able to promote that they served all 50 states (whether it made economic sense or not). They added new service to one point in half a dozen states like Wyoming, North Dakota, Vermont, New Hampshire etc., along with ILG.


User currently offlineknope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2947 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11062 times:

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 3):
That being said, United has 81 domestic (US+DC) destinations out of the NYC area, while Delta is right on their heels at 75 (US+DC).

Funny, I just tallied this for AA today to pass the time on a fligh this afternoon. I came up with 50 nonstop destinations from the NYC airports for AA/AA* and I think US wil add two more. While 52 is solidy behind UA and DL, I'm a tad surprised that gap is not larger. If the B6 tie continues, that probably puts them in a pretty competitive position with the other two.


User currently offlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10983 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):

That was 1985. They had a contest also and people cheated.


User currently offlinejerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2026 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10843 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
That didn't last long. It was during the brief period when UA wanted to be able to promote that they served all 50 states (whether it made economic sense or not). They added new service to one point in half a dozen states like Wyoming, North Dakota, Vermont, New Hampshire etc., along with ILG.

Delta also did the all 50 states thing in the past 5 years as well.



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User currently offlinesimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10614 times:

Quoting usctrojan18 (Reply 1):
New Mexico

Continental flew EWR-ABQ in the past, so it could come back, though it would be overflying ORD, IAH, and DEN (sorry CLE).


User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2182 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9717 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
It was during the brief period when UA wanted to be able to promote that they served all 50 states (whether it made economic sense or not). They added new service to one point in half a dozen states like Wyoming, North Dakota, Vermont, New Hampshire etc., along with ILG.

UA has long served markets in Vermont (BTV), Wyoming (Laramie, Cheyenne, Jackson, etc...), and probably ND as well (though not all from NYC). The whole fuss really was about Delaware. But by serving 50 states, I do not think they ever meant all 50 states from NYC.



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User currently offlineusctrojan18 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9682 times:

Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 2):
Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 2):
to be fair no airline serves Delaware, DL used to at ILG but no longer does.

Just wondering, will Delaware get airline service anytime soon or will it just be known as the state that can't fly (commercially)


User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6002 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9656 times:

Quoting usctrojan18 (Reply 13):
Just wondering, will Delaware get airline service anytime soon or will it just be known as the state that can't fly (commercially)


.... probably not. As mentioned earlier DL tried service to ATL a few years ago it was not a commercial success. The issue is that ILG is too close to PHL...it's less than a 30 minute drive.

[Edited 2013-02-20 22:21:55]


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User currently offlineJerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2026 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9634 times:
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Quoting usctrojan18 (Reply 13):

Well the only 2 airlines I think might try ILG at some point is Frontier and the new PeoplExpress (if they ever get off the ground). Frontier not as likely as it would be likely not to happen without TTN going south.



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User currently offlineusctrojan18 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9603 times:

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 15):
Well the only 2 airlines I think might try ILG at some point is Frontier and the new PeoplExpress (if they ever get off the ground). Frontier not as likely as it would be likely not to happen without TTN going south.

Any chance of Allegiant? They seem to find small airports and make revenue off them. But you're probably right, I think people would prefer PHL or Amtrak along the NEC.


User currently offlineLHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1600 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9590 times:

Quoting usctrojan18 (Reply 13):
Just wondering, will Delaware get airline service anytime soon or will it just be known as the state that can't fly (commercially)

Probably not I'd guess - Wilmington is under 30 miles to PHL and under 70 to BWI, while the southern part of the state could either go to someplace like SBY in MD. So yeah just not a very good location to get dedicated air service based on proximity to major airports in the north and a small but viable one (SBY) in the south.


User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4643 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9423 times:

I've forgotten what year we flew it but it was a long time ago CO flew EWR-ANC non stop.


I did it a few times and it was an interesting flight, trivia for you it had to be flown under ETOPS rules due to the remote region and lack of diversionary airports under a lot of the flight path.


ETOPS is not just for over water !

[Edited 2013-02-20 23:00:25]


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User currently offlineatct From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2307 posts, RR: 38
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9303 times:

Well it will be nice to have 2 extra flights...Not a big gain in my opinion.

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User currently offlinetoobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 799 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8811 times:

It won't last long if the yields aren't good. That's a long domestic route. I'm sure cargo would do well on it.

User currently offlineYukon880 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day ago) and read 8607 times:

Quoting atct (Reply 19):
Well it will be nice to have 2 extra flights...Not a big gain in my opinion
Quoting toobz (Reply 20):
I'm sure cargo would do well on it.

Fully agree with my ATC colleague, it's nice to have but it don't amount to much.

And I don't see much hope that this will be a banner route for cargo either, especially 2 days per week.
The best yield on the belly cargo will be live animals (if UA permits), the QuickPak express product and US mail, if selected. All of which would probably amount to very little weight, which is actually good because laden with fuel for the longhaul, payload will be limited. Even if 10 to 15K pounds of payload remains available (extremely optimistic), the revenue generated on standard freight is but a fraction of the high-yield cargo products already mentioned.


Yukon



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 8504 times:

Well, it may not be much, but as a loyal CO flyer in ANC, I'll take what I can get.
This would make travel to Europe SO MUCH EASIER. One stop!?!? Yes, please! Beats the pants off of ANC-SEA-IAH-LHR or ANC-DEN-EWR-CDG.

I hope this route makes tons of cash, because I want it to stick around!

Do we think this has better chances than US's ANC-PHL failure???


User currently offlineYukon880 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 8347 times:

Hey Astrojet,

I'd love to see this one stick around, I really would. In fact, I would go so far as to try to make the case that the Widget should do much the same thing with a flight to/from JFK! But having said that, and not even searching for the schedule for this "new" UA flight, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that the departure time from ANC will not mesh well with the evening departures from EWR to Europe and the World. I suspect an evening depart from ANC and early A.M. arrival at EWR.

No matter what the hour, I would think that UA via EWR will be stronger than US via PHL, no matter what.

And by the way...

CO appreciates your loyalty!



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 8209 times:

Quoting Yukon880 (Reply 23):
I suspect an evening depart from ANC and early A.M. arrival at EWR.

Yup, departs ANC at 9:00Pm and arrives at EWR 7:55Am. It allows a connection to the Morning LHR flight, but I think this route is catering to O&D traffic between the NYC area and ANC. The EWR departure is 4:25Pm arriving ANC at 8:03Pm.

Quoting deltairlines (Reply 3):
Montana (BZN
Quoting usctrojan18 (Reply 1):
UA doesnt serve Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, New Mexico, Mississippi, Delware, or West Virgina from EWR.

They have a codeshare, with Amtrak, from EWR to Wilmington Delaware.

http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Mark...tComm/Promotions/Pages/Amtrak.aspx



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25 kgaiflyer : Probably less than that. I rented an Avis car a couple weeks ago after missing a connection to DCA at PHL. I was through both Pennsylvania and Delawa
26 izbtmnhd : No need to be sorry about CLE. CO flew CLE-ABQ in the past as well.
27 luv2fly : I am sure it is seasonal for the cruise industry.
28 kgaiflyer : Most definitely for tourism -- Alaska is beautiful in the summer. But ships don't actually dock in Anchorage. Most Alaska cruises originate in Vancou
29 luv2fly : Princess and Holland American do one ways through Alaska that either end or begin in Seaward. Having worked for the cruise industry it is true a few
30 klwright69 : Maybe UA is testing the waters again. Get a legup on the competition.
31 tommy767 : Interesting how a sUA 757 will operate the route. I'm sure many will complain about how it's not on an ex-co 757 Also to note, based on the DL SEA-LAS
32 United1 : One of the two flights will be a 752...looking at a Monday in June. ANC to SEA 752 SEA 739 SFO 738 SFO 738 DEN 738 IAH 753 ORD 739 ORD 738 Add in EWR
33 TK787 : If it works out for UA, I bet AS would be interested in the future.
34 EWRkid1990 : While waiting for an EWR-SEA flight in July of 2002, the next gate over was boarding a 757-200 to ANC.
35 STT757 : SEA-ANC is one 739 and one 757 for UA. It's probably going to be one of their sUA ETOPs 757s. Well sure, AVOD, lie flat BusinessFirst seats etc..
36 GentFromAlaska : Wow ANC is loosing its stepchild persona as of lately. Its been a favorite go to airport as of lately for just about all of the fliers. Albeit be it s
37 AA737-823 : What? Oh crap, I'm out. A seven-hour overnight flight on a CO 752 is fine- I've done ANC-IAH many times on such equipment and been perfectly happy. O
38 AADC10 : The irony is that most mainline USA airlines are Delaware corporations.
39 GentFromAlaska : That's either the best or worst kept secret as trivia questions go. Radio stations love to use it. I remember hearing it in Florida, Hawaii and in Al
40 tommy767 : It's a tourist destination -- a seasonal one at that. What do you expect? Be glad it's not on a 739.
41 kgaiflyer : Why? I've done ANC-SEA on AS 739A's Why would sCO 739ER's be a problem?
42 kgaiflyer : Plus the most cramped F-class seats in the air. And several of the sCO 753's have those damned double-pronged earphone plugs
43 kgaiflyer : An Alaska Railroad vista-dome seat from Seward to Anchorage is a definite plus even though it parallels the highway most of the way.
44 CODC10 : ANC-EWR-LHR on the early flight (UA18) is actually the only way from ANC to Europe on United without double redeyes and a long layover. Non-issue. 73
45 Viscount724 : Are you including UA Express and similar commuter services with UA flight numbers? I was referring to the period when they operated UA mainline servi
46 tommy767 : Plus the sCO 752s are tied up on other domestic routes mainly to the other hubs but generally EWR-TPA/ORD/DEN/SFO/LAX. sUA 757s are now all over the
47 atct : We have three cruise ports. Anchorage SilverSea Cruises docks at the port of Anchorage. Smaller, luxury ships. I couldve sworn last season I saw a Ho
48 AA737-823 : It is? Tell that to the 731,449 people that live here. Or the many more who work here; thousands of people fly into and out of Anchorage on their way
49 luv2fly : Holland has a small ship, called the Prisdaam(sp) that could have been her. She does the longer round the world sailings.
50 2travel2know2 : What I'd like to see is upgrade to B767 and a tag-on to GUM from ANC.
51 CODC10 : Wouldn't that be cool? I wonder what the PDEW is between ANC and NRT. JAL serves the market seasonally. At less than 3000nm, ANC-NRT is comfortably w
52 2travel2know2 : ANC most likely needs a year-around link with Asia, specially due to Alaska oil-related traffic. UA ANC-NRT could feed not only on UA NRT operation b
53 atct : Ive always thought a tag on ORD-ANC-NRT would be awesome with a 757-200. Or just send a 757-200 on the IAH/EWR-SEA through flights and continue on to
54 kgaiflyer : Or picked up by a scavenging eagle. The Kenai Peninsula has some the size of prehistoric monsters. Apparently the climate and food chain there agrees
55 tommy767 : With all do respect, ANC is definitely a tourist destination as most domestic carriers ramp up their ANC ops in the summertime. You don't see too man
56 MAH4546 : Year-round is DL/MSP, UA/SEA, UA/DEN and US/PHX, in addition to AS/ORD, AS/PDX, AS/SEA and AS/LAX (LAX ops March-December).
57 TK787 : Really? Is that the latest Anchorage population or the whole state? For UA miles, have you tried TK from ANC-ORD/LAX-IST.... and onwards. I know it c
58 kgaiflyer : The whole state, I'm afraid. Anchorage's population is just under 300,000. Btw, don't underestimate the importance of Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson
59 Roseflyer : ANC seems to be getting a bit more service this year than in years past. B6 to SEA VX to SFO DL to SEA UA to EWR FI to KEF
60 MAH4546 : Close to 400,000 in the metro. One thing to remember though is that Alaskans have extremely high propensity to travel, which, combined with Alaska be
61 Post contains images Yukon880 : Apparently not, as China Airlines was all to thrilled to trade ANC for KIX as their "tech" stop from JFK. Thusfar none have stepped-up to fill the vo
62 Post contains images AA737-823 : You mean, "due". Most domestic destinations have increased service in the summer time. This year, ANC is getting WAY more than (I feel) it can sustai
63 Post contains links TK787 : If that means anything TK was chosen best airline in Europe by Skytrax last two years in a row. Catering is by Do&Co and it is far better than ot
64 GentFromAlaska : It all depends on what side of the teeter-totter one sits. I'll accept you have never stood in -5 degrees on 4th street in ANC on the first Saturday
65 tommy767 : You WERE a loyal CO flyer. I'm failing to see why they were so good up in ANC when they had all 2 flights a day to SEA and a seasonal to IAH. Not say
66 Yukon880 : Used only with the greatest respect, I assure you! Yukon
67 Post contains images atct : I completely agree. I was proudly a loyal CO customer (based at IAH for 5 years) and now I am a whore to the cheap airfare world (be happy Yukon, Im
68 Post contains links STT757 : UA is also launching EWR-Traverse City (seasonally), Here's the official press release for ANC and TVC: http://ir.unitedcontinentalholdings....-newsAr
69 MaverickM11 : Considering UA just dropped the entire state, CO was probably pretty good by comparison. And when you take AS out of the picture, your options were a
70 AA737-823 : But you're a UA apologist, so I'll have to help you see it: onward connectivity. From IAH, CO could take you virtually anywhere in the world, either
71 tommy767 : *Seasonally* take you all over Latin America I think you mean. I'm surprised CO had staff in ANC with the very few flights they had to 1 destination
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