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(2) BAC 1-11's Scrapped, Video & Pics At MCO  
User currently offlineL1011dal From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11140 times:

The 2 (VIP) BAC 1-11's that were flew to Orlando a few years ago were scrapped on the ramp in October. A video and pics are posted at

http://www.l10.homestead.com/BAC-1-11-demo.html

Sad to see them go but understand with the huge operating cost.

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User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 837 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11052 times:

Sad news, which I had the chance to go back out to that ramp and see them again before they got torn down. I shot the tail of one of them a few years ago.


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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 10486 times:

I flew on the BAC-111 a number of times when Pacific Express was in operation>
LAX-SCK
LAX-Monterey

The in cabin noise was considerable.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 10316 times:
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Ok, dumb question of the day time.

In the linked page, it says that the RR Spey engines are 'the same' as those used on the Gulf II and III. When it says same, does that mean the same design but bigger and more powerful? Or, are they actually identical?? The 1-11 is much bigger, hence my foolish question.



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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 10256 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 3):

In the linked page, it says that the RR Spey engines are 'the same' as those used on the Gulf II and III. When it says same, does that mean the same design but bigger and more powerful? Or, are they actually identical?? The 1-11 is much bigger, hence my foolish question.

There were quite a few different versions of the Spey for a number of different Aircraft. 1-11, HS 121, G1159, F28, Nimrod to name a few.

Quoting DesertAir (Reply 2):
The in cabin noise was considerable.

Unless you were sitting in the very back of the cabin it was very quiet inside, after all it is a rear engined jet.
The most noise was from the reverse thrust but this only lasts for a few seconds. I have fond memories of the 1-11.


User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 10256 times:

That's a shame.....

Here is how they started out:

N200JX:


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N200EE:

http://www.bac1-11jet.co.uk/images/0...0Tenneco%20Wisley%20Mar%201966.jpg



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4952 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 10209 times:

Good old N1541. I flew on that BAC many time when it was with Braniff. Later they painted it in that Ochre color. I thought that color looked best on the 111's in Braniff's fleet. But they only had one of them in that color.

I liked the BAC-111, nice aircraft to fly on and had super cold a/c in it. You could have one sitting on the ramp at SHV on a 100F day with the front door open and by the time you get 3 feet in the aircraft the air was about 65F. But noisy on takeoff.
You could hear those engines crackle!

When did N1541 get scrapped and where at? I believe it also flew with USAir for awhile too.



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User currently offlinegoosebayguy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 9975 times:

Saw N999BW at LAX two years ago and just wondered if there were anymore still flying about? Also saw one at Bournemouth two years ago all stripped of paint not sure if it was for scrap or going to be re-sprayed?

User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 9778 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
When did N1541 get scrapped and where at?

N1541 is the blue airplane (N200JX) at Orlando.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xDca0Ra-tk


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[Edited 2013-02-22 08:33:28]


This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4915 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 9518 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 8):
N1541 is the blue airplane (N200JX) at Orlando.

Braniff's BAC 111s were unusual in that they were not equipped with the rear (ventral) airstairs.
Looking at the cabin layout, I see that did not change, right to the end.

Quoting DesertAir (Reply 2):
The in cabin noise was considerable.

I have flown on many BAC 111s of many airlines and one thing that struck me was not the cabin noise, as it was similar to a DC-9, but the very strange sound of the Speys when starting up. It was the same in the Trident.



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 8281 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 9):
I have flown on many BAC 111s of many airlines

I barely remember flying on a US 1-11 . I was little at the time and thought it was a DC9,til U saw '1-11' imprinted on the windows.



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User currently offlinetherevmatt From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 6334 times:

These aircraft were part of Jack Safro's fleet at KUES for a number of years. I live on the approach path to this airport and saw them on my drives around Waukesha frequently. Sad to see them scrapped, they were beautiful.

User currently offlinewoodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1029 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4528 times:

I had the pleasure of seeing and photographing this BAC-111 in Fairbanks Alaska in Sept of 2012. It was flying out of FAI on *test*? flights for Northrup Grumman, for what I dont know but their flightaware info was for 3-5 hour flights north into the Arctic and returning to FAI. Airliners rejected my photos because they were taken with my phone and therefor not of high enough quality but I dont see any more recent ones in the database. I'll share one here for everyone!
N164W at Fairbanks International, Sept, 2012


User currently offlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1074 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3891 times:

I haven't looked lately, but is the BAC-1-11 in USAir colors still on the southwest ramp at MCO?

User currently offlineintsim From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3864 times:

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 13):
I haven't looked lately, but is the BAC-1-11 in USAir colors still on the southwest ramp at MCO?

There was a USAir BAC 1-11 being used for fire training in July 2009. I assume it was these other two birds that were not too far away.


User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2694 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 8):
N1541

Is there any link between N1541 and N800DM? They have almost the same colours.

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Saw this rarity in FRA in the 80s when Elton John used this Bac 1-11 for his tournee.


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4952 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3397 times:

Up until a few years ago a BAC 111 would come into Hobby and park at Enterprise Aviation. It would stay two or three days and then leave. I never figured out who owned it.

I know from BAC sales brochures that the 111 was equipped for landing on grass strips. Did anyone ever do this?



Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7472 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

Intsim


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I think that this is the one, (seen in 2010.


User currently offlineL1011dal From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

The US Air BAC 1-11 pictured above is still used as fire trainer at MCO. The landing gear and support structure was recently reinforced since the elements took a toll on the structure however it is still active as a fire trainer. The demoed BAC 1-11's at the beginning of this thread are two different frames which are now history.

User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4952 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 8):
Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
When did N1541 get scrapped and where at?

N1541 is the blue airplane (N200JX) at Orlando.


I read somewhere that N541 was the first production BAC 111 off the line. This means that N1541 "survived" the longest, 50 years of service. What an amazing feat.

I also read that Leona Helmsley, the Queen of Mean had a 111 as a private jet. Does anyone know what happened to that one?



Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
User currently offlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1074 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2320 times:

[quote=type-rated,reply=19] read somewhere that N541 was the first production BAC 111 off the line. This means that N1541 "survived" the longest, 50 years of service. What an amazing feat.

According to TAHS jet airliner production list, N1541 was the 13th 1-11 built, after two prototypes. It was the first delivered to Braniff on 06/30/64.


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7472 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

http://www.bac1-11jet.co.uk/

According to this site, it was C/N 0015. However, there was no C/N 0001 TO 0003. C/N0004 and 0006 were prototypes.

Hope this helps.


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4952 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Thanks for clearing that bit of info up. I always wondered about that.


Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
User currently offlineUnited727 From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

As noted in other threads, there are a couple other complete BAC's remaining in the US other than the NG ships (both former AAstro Jet's). The one in the most danger is the ship in Kansas (former VASP), as the owner wants to either "Sell or Scrap"...


Looking for the impossible way to save those dying breeds!!!!
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5490 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

I nabbed a photo of 200EE the day before it was scrapped and a few shots of the blue and white one during the process. Really a shame what wreckless people with money can do. If you google Pete Benevides I believe he may have been the owner or had some part in it, he ran skyview aviation which was based at the white hangar they were parked in front of.

http://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=67&filename=phplDPiN7.jpeg
(god help me i've spent 10 mins trying to get the thumbnail to appear lol)

[Edited 2013-03-04 15:38:26]

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