wrldtvlr From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15903 times:
What really struck me is that they're adding widebody service. Reading this article it looks as if Delta is going after American's premium cross country traffic.
Quote: New offerings include:
Sparkling wine in BusinessElite®
Copies of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and USA Today for BusinessElite customers, beginning later this spring
BusinessElite express meals beginning this fall
Complimentary headsets for all customers seated in Economy Comfort™ and Economy
Complimentary beer, wine, spirits and premium snacks in Economy Comfort in April
Complimentary movies and on-demand TV shows in Economy, plus free HBO® selections and new release movies for customers seated in Economy Comfort starting this summer
375 ml bottles of Hess Select Chardonnay and Meiomi by Belle Glos Pinot Noir available for purchase in Economy Class beginning in March
Starbucks coffee for all transcon customers, beginning this summer
Expanded movie and on-demand TV library, with up to 100 movies to choose from
Upgraded food for purchase menu including more kid-friendly and healthy options beginning this fall
All transcon flights out of New York's JFK will depart from T4, Delta's new international terminal, opening in May
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4583 posts, RR: 26 Reply 5, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15758 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1): Is this not a rehash of the press release from last November ?
No, the November press release focused on the flat-beds in J, whereas today's announcement concerns other soft product enhancements, not just to BusinessElite, but also to Economy Comfort as well as to regular Economy.
Josh32121 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 325 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15739 times:
Quoting g500 (Reply 2): let's see what American comes up with. Do they even care since they will be shifting most trans-cons to PHL
What do you mean? AA has already announced their new transcon product to be offered on A321's. Big buzz about it on here. The DL product enhancements were largely thought to be a response to that announcement.
And I think your assumption that all transcon flying will be shifted to PHL is a multitude of adjectives including but not limited to crazy, clueless, bizarre, naive, etc. AA has a huge FF base in the LA and NYC markets, and JFK-LAX is arguably (as another poster suggested) the most lucrative domestic route in the U.S., and AA is the leader on it. They are not giving that up. Hollywood doesn't want to fly to PHL. They want to fly to NYC.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15720 posts, RR: 48 Reply 11, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 15509 times:
Did I miss lie flats on 757s at DL? When/where/how?
Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 8):
The key is corporate contracts. Delta continues chasing what AA and UA have owned for years.
I wish the business chased the improved product, but if it did, AA/UA wouldn't be the market leaders in transcons. On the bright side passengers have never had so many improved/ing products to choose from transcon.
"....Sixteen full flat-bed seats on the updated transcontinental 757 fleet will be arranged in a 2-2 configuration and offer a 20-inch wide seat and an average bed length of 79 inches. Each BusinessElite seat will feature a high definition 16-inch video monitor. This fleet modification will also include changes to the Economy cabin, with 44 Economy Comfort seats offering 35 inches of pitch and 50 percent more recline, in addition to 108 Economy seats. All seats in the Economy cabin will feature a nine-inch video monitor, with standard 110v and USB power ports available at every seat...."
davescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 15468 times:
Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 8): The key is corporate contracts. Delta continues chasing what AA and UA have owned for years.
And we have a winner!
This has to be designed to go head/head with United PS service.
Quoting DL WIDGET HEAD (Reply 10): Surprised to see Starbucks coffee in the offing. Thought DL had a thing with Seattle's Best. Nonetheless, I like the enhancements. Shouldn't be limited to NYC transcons though.
I agree about the coffee. I wonder what that was about.
NYC is the prime biz destination. But I do wonder if PHL/BOS for example could support similar premium traffic. It would seem to make some sense.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15720 posts, RR: 48 Reply 15, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 15300 times:
Quoting panamair (Reply 12): "....Sixteen full flat-bed seats on the updated transcontinental 757 fleet will be arranged in a 2-2 configuration and offer a 20-inch wide seat and an average bed length of 79 inches.
redzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 275 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 15096 times:
Just did a check for April, and DL is charging $169 for one-way economy fares on LAX-JFK. Amazing. I don't know what the mark-up is for economy comfort, but the enhanced entertainment and catering make that a very attractive option. Medallions with free EC seating are getting spoiled with that. But the business fare are a lot higher on the same day: $1919 on the 752, $1973 in the 763 with flat beds. A one-stop via ATL in regular domestic first can be had for as little as $871.
Not sure how the fares compare to AA/UA... don't have time to look right now.
Edit: just checked--on the same day, AA charges $164/$1915, UA $169/$1920, and B6 $169. So they are all in the same ballpark, with B6 likely driving the low economy fares. I live in a market with no LCCs, and one-way fares like that still surprise me, especially for t-cons. I don't shop those routes very much.
JFK-LAX, SFO have seen a lot of competition lately and its driving the prices down, and its not helping to see UA go to almost 15x daily on LAX, SFO-EWR so they can stick it to VX. At this point i can't see how any carrier is making any money on these transcon flights.
Aeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2957 posts, RR: 30 Reply 23, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 14339 times:
Delta has always been my carrier of choice (whenever SU is unavailable), and I travel the SFO-JFK sector back and forth quite a few times a year. While the service is always great - never have any complaints, I was always surprised by the lack of proper IFE on the flights. The seat-back TV/movie selection on the SFO/LAX-JFK sectors is ridiculous, especially when compared to the offerings of B6 and VX on the same routes. Free selection is super limited and overall bleak. Back when Song was in existence, things were good and I made it a point to always fly with them, once the re-brand happened things went downhill in that particular department.
In any case, glad to hear that DL is finally sprucing up that much needed aspect of those trans-con flights. It's about time.