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727 Landing At Merrill Field, Anchorage (video)  
User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3255 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 13070 times:

http://www.adn.com/2013/02/26/280358...ooth-landing-at-merrill-field.html

IIRC the runway measures 4000'x100'. FedEx donated the aircraft to UAA for training purposes.


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13010 times:

I missed it today, but I'm glad the ADN managed to grab someone's footage!

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12989 times:

Made two low approaches before landing on third time around.

http://youtu.be/mxynk6cTjTg

http://youtu.be/nc8OuEwsOGM



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User currently offlineWhiteWasp From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12653 times:

I'm assuming it was bare bones. Still very very impressive! Wasn't there a UA 727 that landed at Meigs many years ago?

User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3047 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12611 times:

That is the most impressive airliner landing I've ever seen! 11 seconds from touchdown to basically stopped. Wow!


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12506 times:

Quoting WhiteWasp (Reply 3):
I'm assuming it was bare bones. Still very very impressive! Wasn't there a UA 727 that landed at Meigs many years ago?

Indeed; that was a -100 model, and it is now glue to the wall at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. I walked through it last summer; pretty neat exhibit!

This one that landed at Merrill today was a -200, though.


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12103 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 4):
That is the most impressive airliner landing I've ever seen! 11 seconds from touchdown to basically stopped. Wow!


Indeed. The -100 was capable of using some pretty short runways, one of the reasons it was developed.....truly awesome machines the B727-100 and 200.



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User currently offlineDFWHeavy From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11891 times:

Simply impressive to see how fast planes can stop when they really want to and max breaking is used.

Does anyone know how much of the 4,000 ft runway was used up here/how much was left when the plane stopped?

How far pass the threshold did it touch down?



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User currently offlinewilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11819 times:

Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 7):
Simply impressive to see how fast planes can stop when they really want to and max breaking is used.

Does anyone know how much of the 4,000 ft runway was used up here/how much was left when the plane stopped?

How far pass the threshold did it touch down?

Fly enough, and one will experience a landing like that. I know I have. I was on a TWA 727 into Houston Hobby and we landed on 12R and was stopped and turning on taxiway K, about halfway down a 7602 ft runway, impressive.


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8658 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11772 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 4):
That is the most impressive airliner landing I've ever seen! 11 seconds from touchdown to basically stopped. Wow!

You think that's impressive, take a look at this landing on a 15m wide runway and with a crosswind. This runway is 4,800ft though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap_nyRzEOMI


User currently offlinercair1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1351 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11736 times:
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Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 7):
Does anyone know how much of the 4,000 ft runway was used up here/how much was left when the plane stopped?

I don't know this - but I do recall reading in the book "Loud and Clear" that they demonstrated ground rolls in the 1000 ft range during development. The 727 had nose gear brakes - largely deactivated later because they were not needed. I believe they demonstrated 700ft-ish landing rolls during testing.



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User currently offlinepwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11671 times:

Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 7):
Does anyone know how much of the 4,000 ft runway was used up here/how much was left when the plane stopped?

Can't speak for this flight, but when I use to work for DL at PWM, the morning FedEx 727 flight from MEM use to regularly pull off the runway at the 4,000ft mark after landing.

That's exactly what the 727 was designed to do. Fly in and out of strips that were to big for the earlier jets such as 707s or DC-8s.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11491 times:

After AC retired the last of their DC-9-32s in 2002 they donated one to the Canadian Aviation Museum in Ottawa. It landed on the 3,300 ft. runway at Rockliffe Airport (YRO) near the city center where the museum is located. Used about 2,000 ft. of runway.


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11432 times:

Quoting 4holer (Reply 4):
That is the most impressive airliner landing I've ever seen! 11 seconds from touchdown to basically stopped. Wow!

It was certainly very cool....but I was going to say this:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 9):
You think that's impressive, take a look at this landing on a 15m wide runway and with a crosswind. This runway is 4,800ft though.

Definitely not cooler than the SP landing at Rand Airport. May have had a slightly longer field, but obviously a much bigger bird.



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User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 3047 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10343 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 9):
You think that's impressive, take a look at this landing on a 15m wide runway and with a crosswind. This runway is 4,800ft though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap_ny...zEOMI

I've seen that and it's indeed impressive but in a different way. The quickness of the decelleration with the 727 was what I meant.



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User currently offlineseat55a From New Zealand, joined Jan 2013, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9946 times:

I think the Globemaster that landed at Peter O Knight instead of MacDill beats them all...no precautionaries, no planning (well, at least not that they admitted).

And it was able to take off again with no issues.


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4146 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9484 times:

Anyone catch the tail number?

User currently offlineil75 From Argentina, joined May 2001, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9349 times:

Nice video, impressive landing!

A question a bit OT: Both the 727 and the South African 747 have the landing gear down while performing low bypasses/ flyovers. Why that if they never intended to land? Is it precautionary? Is it to brake the plane? I just wonder.

Thanks!


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9099 times:

Awesome video here,

http://youtu.be/dNYqIl7P9RQ

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 16):
Anyone catch the tail number?

N492FE

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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8765 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 18):
Awesome video here,

Certainly is. Thanks a lot for that one.



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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 42
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 8031 times:

While we're at it, here's a video from Germany, courtesy of some pretty bloody skilled Russian pilots: AN-22 landing in Speyer Years ago, I had the chance to go inside that aircraft - it is every bit as massive as it looks in the video.


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User currently offlinercair1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1351 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7813 times:
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Quoting il75 (Reply 17):
A question a bit OT: Both the 727 and the South African 747 have the landing gear

I suspect you'd have configuration warnings going off - and better to configure for the situation you are in.

Also - if they were really doing test approaches, they want the aircraft configured the same way as the real one.



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User currently offlinebtfarrwm From United States of America, joined May 2011, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

Here's another impressive landing. Evergreen flew this 747-100 to McMinnville, OR and it now sits on top of their waterpark with waterslides. The runway is ~5420' long and 150' wide.

http://youtu.be/tbYi8QnEU7I


User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2485 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4533 times:
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Quoting btfarrwm (Reply 22):
Here's another impressive landing. Evergreen flew this 747-100 to McMinnville, OR and it now sits on top of their waterpark with waterslides. The runway is ~5420' long and 150' wide.

And they sure 'wasted' a lot of runway on this landing it looks like.



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User currently offlineAlaskanJohn From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Th FedEx 727 landed literally right on the numbers! After a small bounce, he was down and at taxi speed in what I estimate was about 2800 ft. The bird was so light that, prior to the first of two planned practice approaches the captain advised when asked by ATC that he would check his fuel after the first pass and then decide whether to do the planned second practice approach or just do the full stop landing. To the delight of the spectators, he did the second pass before coming around for the very exciting landing! While being towed to parking, the captain joked with ATC that this was not his typical airline landing, to which ATC replied that it looked pretty good to all of us! Local television stations' news report there were three fly-bys before landing. That is not true.

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25 AlaskanJohn : Another interesting back story to this flight: N492FE is named "Two Bears." FedEx Express has a tradition of christening each of its jets with the nam
26 71Zulu : The news said something about a second 727 going to a school in Fairbanks, anybody got the info?
27 Post contains images braniff722 : It kills me to see the 727 story coming to an end! Without a doubt, one of Boeing's greatest design and plane ever built! Honestly, in the 21st centur
28 Post contains links PITrules : Video of the Meigs Field landing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=NV4tgjSPgks
29 AA737-823 : Back on topic, lol: Keep in mind, it was utterly empty. Not really. As a passenger, you're ~never~ going to experience a landing like a completely emp
30 Post contains links CitationJet : Another good video of the Merrill Field landing, with ATC communication: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06RGK89pyNU
31 rcair1 : I just finished reading the book "Loud and Clear" (Serling) which discussed demonstrated 1000 ft ground rolls. The 700ish comes from the web as a sup
32 airbuster : Hey I landed a Fokker 70 fully loaded on 27L at heathrow and got off at S4, that's about 3000 ft. So I'm sure the 727 being empty can get down and sto
33 71Zulu : AS used to fly the 737-200 in revenue service to Dutch Harbor, and that runway was only 3,900 feet, don't think they ever flew the 727-100 there but i
34 Post contains links PITrules : DC-8 takeoff after landing at the wrong (3,200') airfield at Da Nang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bvK6enoQDg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mId1WK6
35 Viscount724 : I think the runway was longer than 3,200 feet. That number is mentioned in some sources re that incident but other sources refer to something between
36 PITrules : Thanks; I was just going off of the commentary in the video. Pretty impressive takeoff nonetheless.
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