Eltomzo From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 61 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4902 times:
I was surprised to see this company operates an E190. I haven't seen a European charter airline operating regional aircraft before. Then I saw this:
Jetairfly chairman Elie Bruyninckx said, “With the E-190, we can reduce the number of costly triangle and intermediate-stop flights that are necessary with our larger airplanes to consolidate loads in smaller markets. That means more nonstop flights and shorter travel times for our passengers.”
Does this mean that the Embraers will be used as feeders to the airport's hubs? If so, is this the first example of a charter airline operating an (embryonic) hub and spoke system?
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rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4718 times:
Quoting Eltomzo (Thread starter): Does this mean that the Embraers will be used as feeders to the airport's hubs? If so, is this the first example of a charter airline operating an (embryonic) hub and spoke system?
No it is means the Belgium market for TUi Package holidays is somewhat limited in size, even to the Spanish hotspots.
They have to combine flights over Ostend and Liege with Brussels, on one end, or do multiple stops around the Greek Isles and Morocco for instance.
They can also tailor some of the smaller markets such as Dalmatian coast resorts where the B738 are just too much capacity.
Further they also operate a from a few small northern French markets again where Corsair are too large.
These Regional Jets will allow more point to point round trip operations and they are NOT creating a Hub and spoke least not in their Belgian operations.
Thomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2278 posts, RR: 31 Reply 4, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4256 times:
They plan to use them on many different routes, right now they are scheduled to operate to AJA, ALC, LEI, ATH, BIA, CTA, DJE, DBV, NBE, FAO, GRO, IBZ, XRY, CFU, LDE, AGP, MAH, NAP, OHD, OLB, PMO, PMI, PRN, REU, SKP, TIA and ZTH according to our database. All from Brussels.
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photoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 372 posts, RR: 20 Reply 8, posted (3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3399 times:
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Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 4): They plan to use them on many different routes, right now they are scheduled to operate to AJA, ALC, LEI, ATH, BIA, CTA, DJE, DBV, NBE, FAO, GRO, IBZ, XRY, CFU, LDE, AGP, MAH, NAP, OHD, OLB, PMO, PMI, PRN, REU, SKP, TIA and ZTH according to our database. All from Brussels.
So about half of these destinations make sense, the other half doesn't. I was expecting they would deploy the E190 on OST and LGG outbound flights so they can use the 737s of OST/LGG at BRU/CRL...
I think the E190 is a good aircraft to replace some routes during the low season but deploying an E190 on BRU-PMI/AGP/ATH/FAO (high season) sounds unrealistic. Anyway the E190 looks good with Jetairfly/TUI livery!
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avroarrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1041 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2644 times:
As axelesgg says, they used to have the F100 as well, there is even a cockpit video program featuring a flight in it to Nador. Air Canada also uses the E jets to do vacation charters, since they are well suited/designed for short to mid length thin routes.
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Tomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 456 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2580 times:
Quoting photoshooter (Reply 8): So about half of these destinations make sense, the other half doesn't. I was expecting they would deploy the E190 on OST and LGG outbound flights so they can use the 737s of OST/LGG at BRU/CRL...
The poster of the destinations probably didn't add these destinations depend on season. You'd suppose IBZ is not as busy in the winter season as it is in the summer season for instance .
photoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 372 posts, RR: 20 Reply 15, posted (3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2258 times:
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Quoting rutankrd (Reply 13): Quoting Tomskii (Reply 12):
You'd suppose IBZ is not as busy in the winter season as it is in the summer season for instance
Almost no charters to Ibiza from anywhere between November and May - The isle hibernates !
I was about to say the same... I doubt they fly to IBZ during the low season. All I am saying is that I'm a bit surprised they are not basing it in OST/LGG with lower costs and not difficult to fill them. The F100 they had was a frequent visitor in OST/LGG/CRL as well, or even based there for a period.
Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 14): I think they will more fly from Liège and Ostend than from BRU. They may also fly some routes out of Charleroi and from Morocco for the ex-Jet4You
Jet4You had quite some flights from Morocco to other places in Europe.. JAF seems to be interested in doing the same but limited and only within The Netherlands - Belgium - France.
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TS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3306 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2215 times:
Why limited to NL-B-F ? The opensky agreement allow any European airline to establish routes to/from Morocco with no regards to registration or country of origin... confirm ?!
Tomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 456 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1678 times:
Quoting photoshooter (Reply 15): I was about to say the same... I doubt they fly to IBZ during the low season. All I am saying is that I'm a bit surprised they are not basing it in OST/LGG with lower costs and not difficult to fill them. The F100 they had was a frequent visitor in OST/LGG/CRL as well, or even based there for a period.
I would not underestimate loads at LGG nor OST (but more on LGG). The few times I flew them out of LGG (it's not that far for me) the flights were pretty full. That's high season of course but there are a lot of walloons liking the fact to fly out closer to home in a less busy airport than BRU or CRL.
acelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 786 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 months 3 weeks ago) and read 884 times:
Well it passed through LPA on delivery yesterday....be interesting to see if more follow if it works out well.
Might other parts of the TUI group also be interested...
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