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AA Adds MIA-SAN & DFW-HMO/ZCL  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26169 posts, RR: 50
Posted (1 year 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 7991 times:

New services to San Diego, Hermosillo and Zacatecas

Effective June 12th.
Daily
AA1065 MIA-SAN 1850-2055 B738
AA1042 SAN-MIA 2145-0540 B738

Daily
AA2833 DFW-HMO 1910-1935 E140
AA2938 HMO-DFW 0700-1130 E140

Mo/We/Sa
AA3379 DFW-ZCL 1045-1250 E140
AA3390 ZCL-DFW 1330-1550 E140


Press release:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americ...ns-network-domestic-161800104.html

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From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7814 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 7941 times:

Excellent news! UA doesnt even serve HMO or ZCL from IAH. Given US serves PHX-HMO, it makes sense to add a route to DFW since there is no service from those markets to the central/eastern US. Good to see AA thinking ahead.

MIA-SAN was a long time coming. Too bad MIA-AUS wasnt also on there.



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11979 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 7946 times:

Good news - logical, and not unexpected, adds. MIA-SAN was screaming for a nonstop. The new DFW-Mexico markets should further strengthen the DFW hub and AA's position in Mexico.

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3258 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 7691 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
MIA-SAN was a long time coming. Too bad MIA-AUS wasnt also on there.

What about PDX-MIA, SJC-MIA and SNA-MIA? I think those are the next markets screaming for a MIA non-stop.


User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 7680 times:

I think MIA-Central Plains is a place where AA has a lot of room to grow - MIA-SAN is a good start in growing domestic connectivity to the huge MIA International hub.

MIA-OKC/TUL/MCI/AUS/SAT/ELP and TUS would be good adds. AA is strong at XNA and LIT too, which could easily support a daily E75 or probably a S80 type aircraft to MIA. Too bad AA's smaller mainline and larger RJ planes are gone from MIA now!


User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

Great news. SAN was the largest Metropolitan Area without a non-stop link from MIA with AA. Now, the largests MSA without n/s service from MIA with AA are PDX, SAT, SMF, MCI, SJC, AUS, PVD, MKE, OKC, SLC, BUF and ROC.

At MIA, AA's smallest mainline aircraft seats 148/160 passengers (738) and Eagle's largest regional aircraft seats 50 passengers (ER4), so there is a huge gap between both. With the introduction of the A319 on the mainline side, and the large RJs on the Eagle side, it is clear that a lot of new destinations will be considered and some of these cities will, eventually, gain non-stop service with AA.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
Too bad MIA-AUS wasnt also on there.

AUS is now the only destionation from MIA that is served from all of the other hubs, and also from all the US hubs. (3 daily from LAX, 5x from PHX, 15x from DFW, 4x from ORD, 3x CLT, 1x PHL and 1x JFK). Just for connecting the dots, it should be one of the next adds.


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7814 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 7569 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
What about PDX-MIA, SJC-MIA and SNA-MIA? I think those are the next markets screaming for a MIA non-stop.

The one that has the best chance is SNA. PDX is a non-starter and MIA is not a tech market so SJC doesnt make a lot of sense.

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 4):
MIA-OKC/TUL/MCI/AUS/SAT/ELP and TUS would be good adds.

Only MCI, AUS, and maybe SAT make sense. The others are non-starters.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26169 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7475 times:

And for SNA there is a slot issue. To add a MIA flight, they need to reduce something else.


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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7459 times:

Finally linking Miami and San Diego. Awesome news!

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 6):
ting mhkansan (Reply 4):
MIA-OKC/TUL/MCI/AUS/SAT/ELP and TUS would be good adds.

Only MCI, AUS, and maybe SAT make sense. The others are non-starters.

AA already flies MIA-TUL - seasonal weekend service.



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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2242 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7458 times:

Money in the bank. MX once served DFW-ZCL back in the day (I think it was 4x weekly?) before it withdrew from DFW (briefly) in 2005, but never resumed this route (along with MLM and GDL). Very excited to see AA remain committed to growing DFW-Mexico.


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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3258 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7436 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 8):
AA already flies MIA-TUL - seasonal weekend service.

I assume that's really to rotate airplanes through the TUL maintenance base, not just to serve the TUL-MIA market, correct?


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2463 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7394 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
UA doesnt even serve HMO or ZCL from IAH. Given US serves PHX-HMO,

They are former CO markets that were served from IAH in the early 2000s. The markets may have matured since and apparently AA feels they are ready for Texas service again.


User currently offlinepsa1011 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7327 times:
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Awesome that SAN-MIA is finally happening. Guess people in San Diego will still have to fly through Texas to get to much of South America, though, due to the red-eye eastbound.

User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 979 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7284 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 11):

I think UA could re-open those markets soon too as a response.



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7814 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7262 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 8):
AA already flies MIA-TUL - seasonal weekend service.

Yeah, but thats to moves planes to the base not because of demand.



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User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5604 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 7256 times:

HALLELUJAH!  

It's been a long time waiting and years since SAN-MIA was last flown nonstop (1992-93!) I for one am very happy to see SAN finally connected to the final major AA hub!

The schedule is not bad - this is one of the first (mainline) red-eyes SAN has seen in a while from AA (since summer of 2007) and the timing of the r/t makes for essentially free a/c time. And connections from/to SAN over MIA should be well served.

AA and OneWorld have a very nice presence in SAN now, with great intercontinental coverage!

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User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 6863 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 10):
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 8):
AA already flies MIA-TUL - seasonal weekend service.

I assume that's really to rotate airplanes through the TUL maintenance base, not just to serve the TUL-MIA market, correct?
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 14):
AA already flies MIA-TUL - seasonal weekend service.

Yeah, but thats to moves planes to the base not because of demand.

No, not the reason it is there. The main routing to TUL for maintenance is 534/585 (DFW-TUL) and sometimes 485/548 (ORD-TUL). The volume of 737 work at TUL is very high and one flight a week a few months a year does very little for routing to TUL for maintenance. Does it get utilized that way, yes sometimes, but not very often.

It is a seasonal route that does pretty good. I don't think there is enough traffic to support daily service but Saturday service is perfect for the cruise industry and the resorts in the Caribbean that typically offer packages from Sat to Sat. Thats why it doesn't operate in the summer, demand is low for both.

N737AA


User currently offlineFlyingSicilian From Italy, joined Mar 2009, 1398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 6700 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 13):
I think UA could re-open those markets soon too as a response.

Doubtful given UA's current strategy on "consolidating" but a restart to HMO wouldn't surprise me completely.

It is a good move for DFW.

Surprised at no AUS-MIA still.



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User currently offlineoc2dc From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 6391 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
And for SNA there is a slot issue. To add a MIA flight, they need to reduce something else.

I'm sure the airport authority would be happy to allocate a daily slot to AA (next year of course). And I think they would definitely appreciate a new destination... Or with the new AA/US, they could definitely switch out a PHX flight for a MIA flight.

Also, wouldn't there be an aircraft issue? Can a 738 takeoff out of SNA with a full tank of fuel? I think the runway is too short. A 757 could probably do it but that is a lot of airplane to fill.



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User currently offlineusctrojan18 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 6112 times:

FINALLY!! SAN-MIA was the big route missing from SAN. I'm so happy SAN-MIA will be nonstop because it greatly reduces flights from SAN to the Caribbean from the 2 to just 1 stop flights. Although I prefer AS to FLL to Southern FL I still like the AA to MIA route just for the connections. This flight will be very successful compared to the previous attempt in the 90s. Congrats to SAN and AA

User currently offlineCOflyerBOS From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 4780 times:

Quoting AVENSAB727 (Reply 13):

Of course you do, despite the fact that UA has been cutting Mexico from IAH.

Nice to see AA expanding out of DFW. I hope they work out.


User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 979 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

Quoting COflyerBOS (Reply 20):

Not entirely.



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User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 4220 times:
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Quoting realsim (Reply 5):

At MIA, AA's smallest mainline aircraft seats 148/160 passengers (738) and Eagle's largest regional aircraft seats 50 passengers (ER4), so there is a huge gap between both. With the introduction of the A319 on the mainline side, and the large RJs on the Eagle side, it is clear that a lot of new destinations will be considered and some of these cities will, eventually, gain non-stop service with AA.

Technically AA's largest RJ is the 66 seat CR7.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 15):

AA and OneWorld have a very nice presence in SAN now, with great intercontinental coverage!

Awesome news for AA and SAN         


User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months ago) and read 4138 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 10):
I assume that's really to rotate airplanes through the TUL maintenance base, not just to serve the TUL-MIA market, correct?
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 14):
Yeah, but thats to moves planes to the base not because of demand.

This made me giggle.

Guy 1: "Hey, AA should fly MIA-TUL."
Guy 2: "Oh hey, they already do seasonally on Saturday."
Peanut gallery: "Yeah but this and that and yadda yadda yadda."

Well they fly MIA-TUL don't they?! 


User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3461 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
What about PDX-MIA,

From your lips, to the new AA managements ears, but for reasons I'll state below, it won't happen anytime soon.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 6):
PDX is a non-starter

PDX is lucky to have 4 non-stops a day on AA to DFW during the summer, all M80's too, (in fact the longest currently flown AA M80 route in their system) other than that, we have no other AA service from here.

AA pulled ORD a while back (even though every time I took those tired old MD's on the route, it was always full of connection traffic) Now AS flies that, and AA puts it's code on those AS flights.

AA has had two west coast networks that included PDX, those were gone shortly after they were acquired. PDX has never had a non-stop to JFK, BNA, MIA, or RDU, we did have an AA flight to STL after TW joined the fold, but that is gone. Oh yeah in the late 80's we had 2 AA jet flights to EUG from PDX, that I used to get to college at the U of O.

My point is, PDX has seen little love from AA, even though the AA sales staff was working very hard here in PDX to get the big agencies booking more with AA, I think one year PDX got 1 757 to STL or DFW, can't remember which.

Other than the SEA-NRT flight, that had connections to points east, AA has shown little interest in the Pacific Northwest, operations are smaller than in the past at SEA & PDX, and other NW cities like EUG & BOI are just gone.



AA AC AQ AS BD BN CO CS DL EA EZ HA HP KL KN MP MW NK NW OO OZ PA PS QX RC RH RW SA TG TW UA US VS WA WC WN
25 laca773 : That's fine. If AA saw the demand for South American connections, the flight would have been timed for a late morning, noontime departure. Obviously
26 Shawn Patrick : AA is also applying today to fly LAX-GRU and ORD-GRU.
27 N737AA : Eagle flew XNA-MIA a couple years ago as well. Always lots of open seats on it so it got axed. It was a non-rev dream though. N737AA
28 psa1011 : I flew PDX-STL in early 2002 on a 757 w/TW livery.
29 LAXintl : I've heard from folks that the IAH RJ network to Mexico was very strong in loads especially with business traffic for the growing number US company m
30 JAAlbert : Great news for us in San Diego! I love the Caribbean and the new AA flight makes travel to the region much more convenient. At the moment, if you fly
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