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BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013  
User currently offlinevxracing16 From UK - England, joined May 2011, 14 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Ryanair have announced that these price hikes will lead to a drop in traffic from 12.5m to 11.4m as they cut back 43 of its routes and the reduction of 170 flights per week.

Even though the airport has been sold to MAG, BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/ferro...stansted-s-airlines-and-passengers

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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2966 times:

Quoting vxracing16 (Thread starter):
Even though the airport has been sold to MAG, BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

The sale is far from completed - Its remains a BAA enterprise


User currently onlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2853 times:
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Not any more it's not!. Deal completed today.

User currently offlinevasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3985 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day ago) and read 2766 times:

weird... How is BAA pushing these charges ahead if they're not going to be owning STN?

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day ago) and read 2742 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 1):
Its remains a BAA enterprise

How do you figure? It's a done deal. De-branding has started in earnest.



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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day ago) and read 2677 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 4):
How do you figure? It's a done deal. De-branding has started in earnest.

Not questioning sale however when posted hadn't seen todays press statement - (just timing)


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 22 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 5):
Not questioning sale however when posted hadn't seen todays press statement - (just timing)

Fair enough, but this was beyond doubt some weeks ago. Branding has been off the website for ages.

Quoting vxracing16 (Thread starter):
BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

This is an idiotic thing to do at this particular juncture and point in time, and the timing has to be viewed as bizarre. Ryanair certainly have a point that it looks suspect.



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User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

The Telegraph says the price rise was agreed years ago with the CAA

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ted-by-one-million-passengers.html


User currently offlineacelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 857 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

So will MAP change/cancel the increase once they are in charge I wonder.....


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

Quoting acelanzarote (Reply 8):
So will MAP change/cancel the increase once they are in charge I wonder.....

They'd be crazy not to. Love or hate Ryanair, the fact is they provide most of the footfall through Stansted, and the passenger numbers have been going down for too long already. It is also telling that FR are not the only airline to have either pulled or reduced routes. Something is wrong, and constantly hiking fees clearly won't remedy the current trend.



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User currently offlinecloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 4 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

BAA became HAL in October last year.


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User currently offlinetrent900 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1915 times:

I'm not convinced MAG will go ahead with these increases, I would have thought it would have been very difficult to hide something like that from RYR though, and only last week there was mention of them increasing based aircraft to 50 (8 more then last year)!

Regarding MAGs plans for the airport, well, lets just say its going to be a very interesting couple of years -

Stansted takeover: Manchester Airport Group pledge sky battle as they seal £1.5bn deal

Its interesting they mention £40m on new shops but no other details on other investment. Where are they going to spend this kind of money on retail? Surly terminal space has already been used.

D.


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5305 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 6):
This is an idiotic thing to do at this particular juncture and point in time, and the timing has to be viewed as bizarre. Ryanair certainly have a point that it looks suspect.
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
They'd be crazy not to. Love or hate Ryanair, the fact is they provide most of the footfall through Stansted, and the passenger numbers have been going down for too long already. It is also telling that FR are not the only airline to have either pulled or reduced routes. Something is wrong, and constantly hiking fees clearly won't remedy the current trend.
Quoting trent900 (Reply 11):
Its interesting they mention £40m on new shops but no other details on other investment. Where are they going to spend this kind of money on retail? Surly terminal space has already been used.

The whole thing is STN can save money by closing down and scrapping everything a Ryanair passenger, like me, doesn't want to pay for or just don't need. I use STN for connections only, not as arriving or departing passenger, but the whole point of flying as cheap as possible is to remove all amenities, also in a terminal. Just bring a book and wait until boarding starts, not so difficult is it?

Airports also have to adapt to the low cost culture if their largest clients are low cost.


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 12):
the whole point of flying as cheap as possible is to remove all amenities, also in a terminal. Just bring a book and wait until boarding starts, not so difficult is it?

But that wouldn't work. If an airport is to discount landing charges but more commonly passenger facility charges to encourage more custom from more airlines or existing airlines more often, they must make up that aeronautical revenue shortfall elsewhere, i.e. from commercial or non-aeronautical revenues. A smaller airport, with little traffic throughput, may not be able to offer many facilities beyond the most basic, e.g. basic food-and-beverage, currency exchange, and news agency. But a major airport, like STN, does obviously have the traffic.

In any case, MAG has openly stated that they seek long-haul operators which they deem may be realistic if they can help achieve a 30-minute train connection to central London versus the present 45 minutes.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1729 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 13):
MAG has openly stated that they seek long-haul operators which they deem may be realistic if they can help achieve a 30-minute train connection to central London versus the present 45 minutes.

Can you account for why LGW already having a 30 minute connection fails in this enterprise? They're not going to get sustainable long haul beyond perhaps Emirates if MAG strike a good deal. The market cannot, has not and will not support that enterprise given the proximity and critical mass of Heathrow.


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 14):
Can you account for why LGW already having a 30 minute connection fails in this enterprise? They're not going to get sustainable long haul beyond perhaps Emirates if MAG strike a good deal. The market cannot, has not and will not support that enterprise given the proximity and critical mass of Heathrow.

I simply reported what I had read in The Times. I have little motivation in debating such a matter as it's not my area of interest.

[Edited 2013-03-02 05:09:32]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

I'll that as a "no" then.

User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 16):

Take it however you want. If I were interested in long-haul operations from LGW and STN I'd happily debate it.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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