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BAA Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013  
User currently offlinevxracing16 From UK - England, joined May 2011, 14 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

Ryanair have announced that these price hikes will lead to a drop in traffic from 12.5m to 11.4m as they cut back 43 of its routes and the reduction of 170 flights per week.

Even though the airport has been sold to MAG, BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/ferro...stansted-s-airlines-and-passengers

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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2963 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 2801 times:
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Quoting vxracing16 (Thread starter):
Even though the airport has been sold to MAG, BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

The sale is far from completed - Its remains a BAA enterprise


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 2688 times:
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Not any more it's not!. Deal completed today.

User currently offlinevasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3858 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

weird... How is BAA pushing these charges ahead if they're not going to be owning STN?

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7693 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 2577 times:
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Quoting rutankrd (Reply 1):
Its remains a BAA enterprise

How do you figure? It's a done deal. De-branding has started in earnest.



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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2963 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 2512 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Reply 4):
How do you figure? It's a done deal. De-branding has started in earnest.

Not questioning sale however when posted hadn't seen todays press statement - (just timing)


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7693 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 6 hours ago) and read 2387 times:
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Quoting rutankrd (Reply 5):
Not questioning sale however when posted hadn't seen todays press statement - (just timing)

Fair enough, but this was beyond doubt some weeks ago. Branding has been off the website for ages.

Quoting vxracing16 (Thread starter):
BAA seem insistent that these charges go ahead.

This is an idiotic thing to do at this particular juncture and point in time, and the timing has to be viewed as bizarre. Ryanair certainly have a point that it looks suspect.



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User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 771 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

The Telegraph says the price rise was agreed years ago with the CAA

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ted-by-one-million-passengers.html


User currently offlineacelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 821 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

So will MAP change/cancel the increase once they are in charge I wonder.....


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7693 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1992 times:
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Quoting acelanzarote (Reply 8):
So will MAP change/cancel the increase once they are in charge I wonder.....

They'd be crazy not to. Love or hate Ryanair, the fact is they provide most of the footfall through Stansted, and the passenger numbers have been going down for too long already. It is also telling that FR are not the only airline to have either pulled or reduced routes. Something is wrong, and constantly hiking fees clearly won't remedy the current trend.



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User currently offlinecloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

BAA became HAL in October last year.


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User currently offlinetrent900 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

I'm not convinced MAG will go ahead with these increases, I would have thought it would have been very difficult to hide something like that from RYR though, and only last week there was mention of them increasing based aircraft to 50 (8 more then last year)!

Regarding MAGs plans for the airport, well, lets just say its going to be a very interesting couple of years -

Stansted takeover: Manchester Airport Group pledge sky battle as they seal £1.5bn deal

Its interesting they mention £40m on new shops but no other details on other investment. Where are they going to spend this kind of money on retail? Surly terminal space has already been used.

D.


User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 6):
This is an idiotic thing to do at this particular juncture and point in time, and the timing has to be viewed as bizarre. Ryanair certainly have a point that it looks suspect.
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 9):
They'd be crazy not to. Love or hate Ryanair, the fact is they provide most of the footfall through Stansted, and the passenger numbers have been going down for too long already. It is also telling that FR are not the only airline to have either pulled or reduced routes. Something is wrong, and constantly hiking fees clearly won't remedy the current trend.
Quoting trent900 (Reply 11):
Its interesting they mention £40m on new shops but no other details on other investment. Where are they going to spend this kind of money on retail? Surly terminal space has already been used.

The whole thing is STN can save money by closing down and scrapping everything a Ryanair passenger, like me, doesn't want to pay for or just don't need. I use STN for connections only, not as arriving or departing passenger, but the whole point of flying as cheap as possible is to remove all amenities, also in a terminal. Just bring a book and wait until boarding starts, not so difficult is it?

Airports also have to adapt to the low cost culture if their largest clients are low cost.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19193 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Quoting KL911 (Reply 12):
the whole point of flying as cheap as possible is to remove all amenities, also in a terminal. Just bring a book and wait until boarding starts, not so difficult is it?

But that wouldn't work. If an airport is to discount landing charges but more commonly passenger facility charges to encourage more custom from more airlines or existing airlines more often, they must make up that aeronautical revenue shortfall elsewhere, i.e. from commercial or non-aeronautical revenues. A smaller airport, with little traffic throughput, may not be able to offer many facilities beyond the most basic, e.g. basic food-and-beverage, currency exchange, and news agency. But a major airport, like STN, does obviously have the traffic.

In any case, MAG has openly stated that they seek long-haul operators which they deem may be realistic if they can help achieve a 30-minute train connection to central London versus the present 45 minutes.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1564 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 13):
MAG has openly stated that they seek long-haul operators which they deem may be realistic if they can help achieve a 30-minute train connection to central London versus the present 45 minutes.

Can you account for why LGW already having a 30 minute connection fails in this enterprise? They're not going to get sustainable long haul beyond perhaps Emirates if MAG strike a good deal. The market cannot, has not and will not support that enterprise given the proximity and critical mass of Heathrow.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19193 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 14):
Can you account for why LGW already having a 30 minute connection fails in this enterprise? They're not going to get sustainable long haul beyond perhaps Emirates if MAG strike a good deal. The market cannot, has not and will not support that enterprise given the proximity and critical mass of Heathrow.

I simply reported what I had read in The Times. I have little motivation in debating such a matter as it's not my area of interest.

[Edited 2013-03-02 05:09:32]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

I'll that as a "no" then.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19193 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1384 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 16):

Take it however you want. If I were interested in long-haul operations from LGW and STN I'd happily debate it.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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