"The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating an incident during a flight from Colorado Springs to San Diego involving the Colorado College Ultimate Frisbee team."
It's an entirely different kind of flying; all together.
gr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2986 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20414 times:
I think passengers, whether they're a bunch of college students or an Olympic team, need to understand that such activities may be "cool" on the ground or anywhere else, but not on a plane......10 odd passengers dancing in the aisle could cause problems in a small plane that no one can imagine until it actually happens.....moreover, there's always the possibility of an emergency happening at just that moment and all these "cool" dancers getting in the way....
If nothing else, a plane is a closed, congested space and not all passengers may share your idea of cool....I think this whole thing of flash mobs, including this Harlem shake thing, is being carried too far by some......it certainly has no place on a plane.....and they had the audacity to state that they planned it one day in advance.....
I know I'll get flamed by a lot of righteous, indignant folks on here, but I am just expressing my personal opinion on this....
IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4718 posts, RR: 25 Reply 6, posted (2 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 19798 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 5): I'm more fascinated by that playing frisbee is considered a sport.
Wonder if you can get a four year ride playing frisbee? A seriously slow day at the FAA offices in the Western region, wonder what type of inspector gets assigned this one?
Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
usxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 830 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (2 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 19697 times:
I can't imagine any FAR's being violated here... I've seen the video and even a few executives @ Republic have seen it and liked it.... overzealous government maybe?
flashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2863 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 19369 times:
I think this whole FAA review falls under the category of "way, way too much about nearly nothing". There is no significant safety issue here, at all, period. It's just ridiculous to suggest that there is anything here worthy of an investigation -- that's more hilarious than the stunt ever was. Frontier should be thrilled about this publicity!
Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 6): Wonder if you can get a four year ride playing frisbee?
You can, indeed. I know a couple of people who are on scholarships for Ultimate, one at a major Pac-12 school.
cubastar From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 370 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 18817 times:
Quoting gr8circle (Reply 2): I think passengers, whether they're a bunch of college students or an Olympic team, need to understand that such activities may be "cool" on the ground or anywhere else, but not on a plane......
Quoting gr8circle (Reply 2): If nothing else, a plane is a closed, congested space and not all passengers may share your idea of cool..
I happen to agree with you entirely. There's an old saying that some people today do not understand:
"One Person's Freedom Ends Where Someone Else's Begins".
ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21026 posts, RR: 60 Reply 12, posted (2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 18776 times:
There was a rumor that Stanford's band was banned from an airline for crap like that. They thought it would be funny to move from one side of the airplane to the other in unison to cause it to roll. It never actually happened, but, apparently, the USC band thought it was a funny idea and tried it...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
AirCalSNA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 18720 times:
I can't believe how lame and sheep-like college students are these days. Repeating endlessly the same prank that wasn't original or funny to begin with. Get a life, twits.
I will be interested to see if the FAA does anything about this. All that flailing around in a small plane doesn't seem like a good idea and probably could compromise safety if an emergency arose. I don't think the seat-belt sign being off is license to just have at it and do whatever you feel like.
indcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 103 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 16718 times:
Quoting nzblue (Thread starter): "The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating an incident during a flight from Colorado Springs to San Diego involving the Colorado College Ultimate Frisbee team."
And if the sequestration goes through, they will have other things to worry about...........
ilove727s From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 16249 times:
As someone who is a dispatcher in the 135 world, I can say first hand that the FAA is in a desperate fund-raising mode. I believe that's all this is about.
TWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 755 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 15577 times:
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 15): What's next the FAA to ka-bash the famed WN toilet paper race from fore to aft down the aisle of the aircraft. Citing to many arms in the aisle.
Or the thing where they let those penguins on the plane...
It's stuff like this that make flying today enjoyable, granted it only happens .00000001% of the time. I just wish the Harlem Shake video that I have been in took place on a plane!
There's nothing like the smell of Jet-A in the morning. It smells like... VICTORY!!!
The only FAR violation I could've possibly see would be not Following crewmember instructions, but that would require that the crew said to stop or not to dance in the aisle ...other than that mostly just plane stupidity or fun.
If the FAA does have an issue with it hopefully it would just be "Yeah, that was funny. Just don't do it again...". Unfortunately, it's the FAA and that they wouldn't do something reasonable like that. I can see it might make some passenger's nervous, but other than that I don't think it was a problem.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19695 posts, RR: 56 Reply 24, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 14469 times:
Quoting flymia (Reply 21): As long as everyone in the plane was ok with it I don't see the big deal.
Even if not everyone on the plane was okay with it it's still not the FAA's business.
-Mir
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25 mingocr83: My 2 cents...if the captain approved this, the FAA is wasting resources as usual.
26 SCQ83: Totally agree... Harlem Shake is not even funny after you see one... Gangnam was quite smart IMO.
27 Elevated: That right there could be the smoking gun. The interphone (PA) IS considered a piece of EE (Pre-flighted during our EE checks) and of Crew use ONLY f
28 FlyDeltaJets: Agreed Anything that happens with a US flagged carrier on its aircraft is the FAA's business.
29 BOStonsox: There was just another thread about people on SK being allowed to do one, although I can't remember if anyone involved was a passenger. They didn't ap
30 RWA380: I may not agree with you, I will support your right to have your opinion and to state it with out ridicule or being flamed. That said, where were the
31 Harmonium: Before this gets completely off the tracks, can we agree that an investigation is merely a thorough look at what happened with the purpose of disclosi
32 par13del: If government agencies were not wasting billions over the years and demanding more taxes, POTUS would not have had to come up with a sequester that h
33 ltbewr: You probably had some people on the flight who see such activity as inappropriate and unsafe. Some will see what appears to be a coordinated act as a
34 toobz: Nothing but an overreacting (what a surprise) branch of government with nothing better to focus on...Even though in reality they have their hands full
35 L410Turbolet: The good thing is that it took a whole 33 replies before someone brought up 9/11 as possible justification for virtually anything in today's US civil
36 Mir: Not really. If it doesn't involve the FARs, the FAA has no say. There are all sorts of objectionable things that people can do on aircraft that aren'
37 lightsaber: I'm so glad the FAA is spending its money investigating the Harlem Shake instead of keeping towers open... How much waste and security theater have w
38 freakyrat: I think F9 needs to capitalize on this by having the spokesperson animals doing the Harlem Shake in a commercial.
39 flashmeister: Agreed. It doesn't appear that F9 did anything wrong here, so they should milk this for every ounce of publicity that they can.
40 gr8circle: Agreed and no one's denying the importance of doing that.....but just do it when you have your feet on solid ground, not in a plane 30,000 feet up in
41 rampart: In that case, I hope the FAA reinvestigate all previous uses of the PA to sing happy birthday, wish newlyweds well, or congratulate the sports team o
42 aajfksjubklyn: They have time for this but yet wont have enough employees to man control towers....JOKE!
43 scbriml: How is it the FAA's job to fix Boeing's problems with the 787?
44 jetblueguy22: . You may not like it, but I find it hard to believe you never did anything in college that was popular. It's just a dance all in good fun. I'd rathe
45 777STL: I agree. Nothing is more brilliant than some fat Korean guy jumping around like he's riding a horse.
46 spacecadet: Just how many people do you imagine are actually investigating this? My guess is 1, on his/her lunch break. And he/she is not going to be otherwise k
47 GentFromAlaska: I think I saw Griz shake his tush a time or two across the years.
48 Silver1SWA: I think people are taking the term "investigating" as something much more consuming of time and resources than what's actually being done by the FAA.
49 jreuschl: Wonder what UA would have done, especially with them being videotaped?!
50 SCQ83: Off-topic, but Gangnam is a parody of a kind of nouveau-riche Koreans (Gangnam is a district in Seoul). If you ever been to Seoul or have met these K
51 737tanker: I agree there was nothing wrong with it, but the Captain probably didn't even know it was happening.
52 Elevated: You missed my point. "Scandalous," dramatic much? It's up to the FA's desecration to make any extra announcements over the PA; it's another story whe
53 rampart: Sorry, I think you missed my point, sarcastic. "Dramatic much" would be the reaction to this stunt. I'm assuming for now that the crew made a best ju
54 kingcavalier: It was a big segment on the Today show this morning. Of course, NBC showed a clip of a F9 737-200. Anyone else see the story?
55 Caryjack: Fox News is reporting the following: The FAA is considering if the FA was wrong to allow the dance, but have not opened an "official" investigation. T
56 ikramerica: The FAA is also investigating the Brady Bunch for singing in the aisles of a "Very Brady Sequel". The FAA moved the goal posts after certification, an
57 DeltaMD90: Pretty obnoxious and I'd be pissed if I was trying to sleep, but as long as they weren't doing it when they weren't supposed to, let them be
58 enilria: I'd like to make a point. Since you are required by law to "comply with all crew member instructions", essentially the passengers would be compelled b
59 lightsaber: No ideas. That they should, but should and actual often have quite a few labor hours in there. I've seen 7 investigate nothing. May I investigate Mar
60 sweair: If funding is short why waste it on non trivial things like this? No one made a threat, it is actually good to move your limbs in an aircraft, it help
61 scbriml: The FAA moved the goal posts? OK, which goal posts did the FAA move? The battery failure rate was many orders of magnitude more frequent than Boeing
63 GentFromAlaska: The snippet received some national media attention of sorts Friday evening. Jay Leno aired the segment in the opening monologue on the Tonight Show. I
64 kevi747: All in good fun. Much ado about nothing. Please move along....nothing to see here. (Then again, the song IS about terrorists.) LOL!
65 mariner: I hope Frontier is thanking its lucky stars that the FAA stepped in. It's given them national attention, international exposure (from London to New Z
66 zeke: Operating a Frisbee without a certificate ? Seriously, you can have a college Frisbee team ????
67 dynamicsguy: As noted earlier, ultimate is a team sport played with a flying disc (a frisbee to the layman). And it is no less a "real" sport just because it usin
68 zeke: Frisbee is a trademark, hence flying disc, nothing to do with "layman". Still a pathetic waste of money considering that those funds could be put int
69 dynamicsguy: Show the man in the street a flying disc and he will tell you that it's a frisbee, and so that is what it is to the layman. Like many trademarks it h
70 Chipmunk2307: Not to mention the guy wearing the banana suit. Where do you get those? But in all seriousness, does it matter if the plane was on the ground or flyi
71 lightsaber: Posted by someone from a region with college Cricket teams... Its fun. You aim for a series of goals a la a golf match. Many of the universities have
72 dynamicsguy: You're talking disc golf, and all you say about it is true, but the team in the video was an ultimate team and played a different sport.
73 B727FA: It's "club" level so no scholarships, conferences, etc. Think intercollegiate intramurals. Ultimate is much more like soccer...very fast and very fun
74 BOStonsox: How is this a waste of money? Ultimate may not be an NCAA-sanctioned sport, but it's no different than any other kind of sport offered at any other u
75 CO777DAL: I don't know why the FAA is singling out Frontier? Lets see who else has done it. Southwest Airlines. Looks really cool with the Boeing Sky Interior M
76 rampart: Yeah, tell that to the college football cartell. I assume you aren't that familiar with US intercollegiate athletics. At least Ultimate can be played
77 lightsaber: Ahh... That's what I get for aging. EIther way, this was a fun thing to do. Those were entertaining. Thank you for sharing. Now we've all given those
78 speedbird2263: They even employed the now defunk planking in that one. I can't for the life of me figure out how this 'craze' got viral in that 'short' space of tim
79 winginit: awww... sounds like someone is a bit upset that their college glory days are over. indeed.
80 KELPkid: In the US, it falls in under 14 CFR part 103 (ultralight operating rules)
81 KELPkid: On a slightly more serious note, if people were a little to rambunctious, and their movements caused the aircraft or flight crew to have to make fligh
82 FlyDeltaJets: The act of the airline operating is under a FAR. The FARs covers other things specifically but is still their business to ensure operation is in acco
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