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Turkish Aviation March 2013  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4422 posts, RR: 12
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13604 times:

Hello Turkish Aviation fans,
Spring is almost here and all airlines are getting ready for another busy summer;


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Really looking forward to this March since we were told;
-332 Prestige will finally be delivered this month to Turkish Government
-This is the month TK will order its NB order (and maybe 350/380 combo??)

Besides this;
-Pegasus is expected to issue its IPO soon. (only 30% or so)
-TK will be in the midst of a labor agreement. Does TK employees have the right to strike if decided?
-Maybe this month we will see the final version on TK crew uniforms
-Next week IST-JFK flights will go back to 3 x daily again.( 2 x 77W, 1 x 333)
-Only two months left for the new Istanbul airport tender
-I saw this on Hurriyet Daily News today; Melbourne expecting TK flights;
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/mel...pageID=238&nID=42006&NewsCatID=345

As usual, please continue with your news, pictures, rumors and sense of humor. Keep all the political views and personal attacks to non-av threads.
Thank you,
TK787

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25071 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13579 times:

Turkish Airlines and Air Canada will be expanding their code-sharing relationship.

In addition to current 22 points in Canada, Air Canada will now provide TK with US connections also via YYZ.

Pending government approval they seek to add the below US points to their codeshare:

Atlanta
Baltimore
Charlotte
Cincinnati
Fort Lauderdale
Cleveland
Dallas
Detroit
Las Vegas
Minneapolis
Nashville
Pittsburgh
Raleigh-Durham
San Diego
Tampa
Seattle
Boston
San Francisco
Miami
Orlando
Denver
Philadelphia

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User currently offlineTK773ER From Australia, joined Jun 2010, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13359 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):

-I saw this on Hurriyet Daily News today; Melbourne expecting TK flights;
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/mel...38&nID=42006&NewsCatID=345

I would love to see TK in my home town MEL but are they    because they are making my head    i just realised why my head is spinning had too much of this    and now I'm    and i should be doing this    Anyway one could only dream ?????


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13335 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Thank you,
TK787

Thank you for the new thread  
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):
Atlanta
Baltimore
Charlotte
Cincinnati
Fort Lauderdale
Cleveland
Dallas
Detroit
Las Vegas
Minneapolis
Nashville
Pittsburgh
Raleigh-Durham
San Diego
Tampa
Seattle
Boston
San Francisco
Miami
Orlando
Denver
Philadelphia

Nice list, although it is time that they expanded to secondary markets with their codeshares. BTW, why add BOS or SFO if they will be served nonstop very soon anyway?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25071 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 13227 times:

Having multiple codeshares to cities already served is common, so I don't see the issue with doubling up even if BOS and SFO become stations for TK one day.
All it does is provide the consumer with added options, and an additional line of schedules to view in GDS.



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4422 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 13210 times:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151469353762760&set=a.139834532759.108963.90430042759&type=1&theater

I can't seem to copy/paste the link, but it is on facebook.com/turkishairlines

TK gets into the food truck business in the US, serving Turkish coffee.
Now this is more like it.

[Edited 2013-03-01 07:38:35]

[Edited 2013-03-01 07:40:16]

User currently offlineboun From Turkey, joined Nov 2012, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13128 times:

Pegasus is starting to fly Kahramanmaras from April 1 onwards, 3 weekly. That is surprising for me. Flights are now bookable on their website. In addition, TLV is becoming double daily. I've realized they have gradually doubled their frequency to many points they fly to ( ORY, STN etc.)

I have a hunch that they will cause some trouble to TK in the long shot despite the difference in target audience or corporate strategy. What do you think?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25071 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 13001 times:

Sure TK and PC but heads especially in the domestic arena (why they had to create Anadolujet) but I don't think they will be a position to cause much "trouble" in the big picture.

See luckily the market in Turkey keeps growing fast year over year, so the pie is increasing allowing everyone to sit the table and share the bounty.

If anything, I think its TK that has caused PC much trouble as TK has tied up traffic rights and blocking PC access in many markets.

Also one of the interesting things with LCCs are they often generate new traffic, and don't necessarily steal existing traffic away. With low enough offers, travelling becomes an option for many that never considered flying.

So I think PC and TK can coexisit without bumping into each other too seriously in a growing market.



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User currently offlineJU068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12914 times:

Is the O&D markets between Istanbul and Tel Aviv big or are they relying on transit passengers, much like Turkish Airlines?

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26912 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 12839 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Hello Turkish Aviation fans,
Spring is almost here and all airlines are getting ready for another busy summer;

Thanks for the new Spring thread  
Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-Maybe this month we will see the final version on TK crew uniforms

Indeed a lot of people are waiting for that one .  


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4422 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12793 times:

Could you guys also confirm that TK will end its sponsorships of FC Barcelona and Man United? Is this immediate or will they finish the all 3 years?
Thanks.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25071 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12683 times:

Quoting JU068 (Reply 8):
Is the O&D markets between Istanbul and Tel Aviv big or are they relying on transit passengers, much like Turkish Airlines?

Until recently the market was huge - Turkey was one of the top couple tourism markets from Israel.

Today its more transit and business traffic as Israeli tourist have opted to go to more friendly locations.



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User currently offlineSteelyman From Andorra, joined Feb 2007, 118 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12683 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 10):

AFAIK at the end of the actual season



BRGDS, Mike
User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 481 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12670 times:

Guys, something very unexpected and surprising happened: the companies bidding for istanbul's 3rd airport say that the schedule is impossible to hold. Due to airkule one manager said that normally they use 200 trucks. Even if they used 20.000 (!) trucks with 5 journeys a day each of them, they would need 4 years to fill the old mines at the land foreseen for the airport. Opening not before 2021. Well, building and airport is not comparable to LEGO...

User currently offlineJU068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12644 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 11):

Thanks, well let's hope the relations improve so that we could see even more demand.

Does anyone know how many aircraft will be based at various coastal Turkish airports during the 2013 summer season?


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12387 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
This is the month TK will order its NB order

According to Focus Magazine, TK previously held off from purchasing A320s at the last minute as they are seeking more local supplier content.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...lines-airbus-idUSBRE92105G20130302

Any further information on that front?


User currently offlineJU068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 12234 times:

Pegasus has already loaded a fifth flight from Sabiha to Belgrade into its system, it will be operated on Mondays. More and more competition for Turkish Airlines in the Balkans, bad for them but good for the travellers.

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4422 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12053 times:

Quoting flood (Reply 15):
Any further information on that front?

Nothing from the Turkish media either, we are used to waiting for big orders. Just like the articles suggest, Turkish government wants more local manufacturing jobs attached to a big order, not just good pricing/ better delivery slots.
http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1362363162.html


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12038 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 13):

Guys, something very unexpected and surprising happened: the companies bidding for istanbul's 3rd airport say that the schedule is impossible to hold. Due to airkule one manager said that normally they use 200 trucks. Even if they used 20.000 (!) trucks with 5 journeys a day each of them, they would need 4 years to fill the old mines at the land foreseen for the airport. Opening not before 2021. Well, building and airport is not comparable to LEGO...

if this true ... the whole design/contract process would be up on the air for a while!!!   


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12021 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 13):

I am somewhat sceptical regarding such doomsday theories. If an airport can be built on an artificial island in 7 years (KIX, HKG) or even 5 (NGO), I am pretty sure some old mines - as big as they are - can be filled in 4-5 years. If necessary, a small port can be built by the Black Sea to where ships can deliver material to be used for the landfill. Plus, I bet there is some levelling to be done, not only holes to be filled but hills to be razed so it all comes down to engineering and project management.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25071 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11993 times:

The President of Kyrgyzstan says TK could operate a Istanbul-Bishkek-Tokyo service as part of a new Kyrgyz-Japan agreement.

http://centralasiaonline.com/en_GB/a...newsbriefs/2013/02/28/newsbrief-14

Previously I had heard they TK also explored service to China via Bishkek. Today TK routes its Ulan Bator Mongolia service via Bishkek.


At the same time Pegasus is looking to reignite its own Kyrgyzstan joint venture plans with Air Manas which it purchased a 49% stake in last year, to form a "Pegasus Asia" by leasing a 737NG to the venture that would offer services to Russia, China, Kazakhstan and Turkey.

http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/peg...ture-plans-despite-blacklist.html?

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User currently offlinegokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 11965 times:

Hey guys I need some help. I am thinking of a last minute trip for Schalke Vs Galatasaray, I found a decent price ticket to DUS via FRA from JFK. My question is will 1 hour 20 minutes be enough for me to make it to my connecting flights in FRA? Appreciate your help on this.


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User currently offlineJU068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11898 times:

Quoting gokmengs (Reply 21):

I had one hour connections in Frankfurt before. It is not a lot of time but you can make it.


User currently offlineankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11878 times:

AZ seems to shelve FCO ESB that was supposed to be reinstated on March 25 thrice weekly as the flight seems to removed from data base. FCO AYT seasonal service seems to remain though as planned. I think the recent shake up with AZ Board obliged them to revisit their immediate plans to expand.

User currently offlinetkfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 659 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11742 times:

and another unexpected increase in TLV flights, starting 3 weekly in April 1, TK increase its daily flights to TLV to six; TK790

25 gokmengs : Thanks my friend appreciate your reply.
26 JU068 : I am still wondering if the market is there or if they are just trying to fight Pegasus by increasing their own presence in TLV. With so many additio
27 Yakamoz : Pegasus adds new domestic destinations: Amasya Merzifon, Mus, Kahramanmaras, Denizli, Nevsehir. Also european routes Antalya-Pristina and from Sabiha
28 JU068 : Yes, these flights have been operating for about a month now. Though I suppose that Antalya to Pristina will operate from the summer season. Pegasus
29 TK787 : What is MNGjet? Skyliners have a new registration; TC-EJA, a CRJ200 for MNG jet.
30 Post contains links stylo777 : never heard about them before; according to their website www.mngjet.com : "MNG Jet is specialized in business jet operations and maintenance. As of
31 Post contains links TK787 : I see drawings of a Rize airport on Facebook, Is that for real or wishful thinking? (search for Rize Havaalani on Facebook) and more here: http://www.
32 TK787 : TC-JSG, A321 joins TK today, 7 more 321s to join this year.
33 TK787 : I guess this does not happen till the end of the month, beginning of April. Can someone PM me the Comfort load for TK12 on March12, thanks.
34 Post contains links tolmachevo : Have you thought of getting the train from Frankfurt airport to the Schalke stadium in Gelsenkirchen? It takes about 2:20, with just two changes. Fro
35 Post contains images gokmengs : Hey man thanks for the good advice, however I am spending couple nights in DUS before the game meeting with other GS fans fom Europe and Turkey If I
36 TK787 : Have a great time and good luck at the game!
37 Post contains images CaliAtenza : i am still hoping that TK will get permission to add more Indian destinations, come on BLR!! Its getting way too expensive for me to fly to India from
38 umit : I saw in at airporthaber , interview with Mr. Topcu that he says they leased seven 777 coming in april . Anybody knows where are they coming from ?
39 Northstar80 : There was a thread about it a couple of months ago, it was discussed to death, however nobody was able to find the sources. Amongst possible were the
40 Post contains links and images TK787 : Wow, cool, havent seen that before; http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...topcu-2003te-pilotlar-issizdi.html From the above article; "Filodaki 210 u
41 Post contains links TK787 : WOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQVS0k-VIwg I have to admit, I haven't seen a more beautiful airline ad. Way to go ETIHAD! I hope TK takes a note.
42 HB-IWC : As I wrote in that thread, these are almost certainly 9W aircraft, most likely all seven of them. Jet simply doesn't need these frames. That will sur
43 Post contains links TK787 : http://web.shgm.gov.tr/doc5/ahls.pdf (in Turkish) Maybe someone can do a better job of translating but this means IST is at FULL CAPACITY. Turkish Civ
44 Post contains images leftyboarder : Obviously they want to make way for TK's planned int'l expansion. Since domestic is bringing in less money and wasting slots with smaller aircraft th
45 TK787 : According to ch-aviation.ch; Turkish Airlines (TK, Istanbul Atatürk/Yesilköy International (IST)) has wet-leased A330-200(F) 9M-MUC (c/n 1164) from
46 LAXintl : Some various bits of news - o Air Astana and THY have signed cooperation agreement. Besides codeshares on routes to Almaty and Astana effective May th
47 Pe@rson : I'm thinking about flying TK LGW-IST-LGW in a few months (and it's over £50 cheaper than EZY on LTN-SAW-LTN). Both sectors are scheduled to be by the
48 leftyboarder : IzfE depends on the paricular configuration; older planes don't while newer deliveries do. and yes, complementary meal is offered on European flights
49 LAXintl : Aviation Daily Published an airline profile chart of TK. Here are some numbers. Top Airports (outside IST) in revenue. 1. ESB 2. LHR 3. CDG 4. IKA 5.
50 TK787 : Very interesting; -No wonder TK won't let anyone else on the ESB route. -Only two cities from Germany on the top ten and none from Russia. -LAX in nu
51 LAXintl : Keep in mind this is total revenue for the station, not per flight. So ESB who has something like 30-daily departures daily so its only makes sense it
52 Post contains images leftyboarder : An online article (will try to post a link) today suggested that 9W and TK agreed on the lease of 3 77Ws returning from TG... Btw that list shows ESB
53 Post contains links TK1244 : According to Airporthaber.com the military part of IST has been transferred to DHMI. The shelters will make way for 40 parking areas for civil aircraf
54 Post contains images MeCe : It was spoken at least by 15 years, a dream comes true Shelters and military homes may relocate but museum should stay there where it belongs in my o
55 TK787 : Not that political I think. Some people have a very bad time with visualizing things. I know from first hand. So they have to go up there and see it
56 Post contains links TK787 : 10th TK 739ER is flown to Charleston for fuel tank outfitting; http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot.com/ This will be the last one for a while. TK gets
57 TK748 : Guys, I had a chance to work on New Istanbul Airport tender for a group, and I must admit that it is impossible to finish on planned time. It is real
58 ankaraflyjet : Great information, thanks. ESB is a revenue generator for TK not solely as a domestic route but I am sure considerable amount of international sales
59 Post contains links LAXintl : Airportbaber has a couple interviews that might be interesting providing some insight at two longhaul stations. First one is with the Los Angeles regi
60 leftyboarder : I agree with you, but somehow I doubt average fares per pax originating in ESB are lower than those originating in IST.
61 radiopolitic : Not really very surprising.
62 LAXintl : I noticed in the OAG thread that now DL will now not have JFK-IST service in September. So I went into GDS and sure enough - last JFK-IST flight is Se
63 TK787 : The usual few notes from yesterday TK 12 JFK-IST, free wifi on the -JNN "Anadolu" As usual full Y and J and a 50% or so Comfort from what I can see. O
64 LAXintl : Wow, poor QC by the D&O JFK kitchen.
65 Post contains links bahadir : Peagsus is down to one -400 now. Their owned -400 TC-APR has come to US and will be waiting for its next customer. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/
66 TurkishWings : Last Sunday, when I flew CDG-IST, we were served Turkish delights before the meal service. Very strange indeed... The crew on this particular flight w
67 JU068 : What happened to her?
68 TurkishWings : Dear fellow Turkish A.netters, It is quite likely (if no problems with visa) that I will be coming to live in Washington DC for a few years as of mid-
69 Post contains images pilotaydin : A large order is going to be announced pretty soon by TK Can't tell you anymore right now
70 sirtoby : Please!!! What is pretty soon? Today? Early next week?
71 Post contains links Northstar80 : Well, if you are referring to this, it is already in the news, but I was waiting for some A380s too - no mention of it in the article http://www.airp
72 tk388 : Please let there be some A380's. Wishfull thinking
73 leftyboarder : First 2 months of 2013 for TK: RPK up 30.0% ASK up 21.8% LF up 4.8pts Pax up 24.7% Also, 12 months 2012 financial results say that net profit up from
74 Post contains images pilotaydin : nope I wasnt there ıs goıng to be more next week
75 Post contains images leftyboarder : Now you are teasing us
76 sirtoby : Order just announced: 25 A321ceo, 4 A320neo, 88 A321neo - 35 of the A321neo are options, 53 are firm. Look at the PR at their website...[Edited 2013-0
77 Post contains images TurkishWings : Finally the long awaited widebody order is in the horizon it seems... Let the speculations begin I would say A350 and A380 to start with...
78 Post contains links LAXintl : If anyone is interested in reading the Pegasus IPO prospectus its available online now. (In Turkish) http://www.pegasusyatirimciiliskiler....S._Taslak
79 MaverickM11 : How is IAH booking? Given the dirt cheap CPT and LHR fares I've been seeing on facebook I'm guessing not very well. Then again they went from 4>6/w
80 HB-IWC : In a first sign that additional B77W capacity is about to come online, TK has loaded the following extra and upgauged flights from 01JUL: TK033/034 IA
81 behramjee : excellent move...this will hurt the market share of QR more than anyone else
82 Post contains images leftyboarder : GRU/EZE load factors are very high, so that makes sense, but IAH already before first flight? Advance bookings must actually be good. We can see BOS
83 HB-IWC : It seems that Lagos will upgauge from B739ER to A332 from the end of June.
84 JU068 : Does anyone know if Turkish Airlines ever considered the Boeing B767 for its fleet? This particular aircraft is a very popular one and it seems that a
85 HB-IWC : It seems that the added capacity represents 3 additional B77W frames, that will be sourced from Jet Airways. These aircraft will come off lease from T
86 JU068 : Who said anything about now? I was talking about the past when the airline was in its initial stages of growth.
87 leftyboarder : Cockpit commonality with A340 which was their first LH aircraft since DC-10. The A340 might have been political though.
88 MeCe : 767 considered in late 80's than A310 choosed, mostly political. 340 was chosen because of ETOPS limitations, at the time 310 fleet was can not be mai
89 JU068 : Thank you for your replies. I wonder if they had chosen the B767 back then would it have been a better choice than the A310.
90 Post contains images TurkishWings : She died in her hotel room during a layover... Presumably heart attack
91 MaverickM11 : I don't get what's going on here. They're offering ridiculous fares to Western Europe which would seem an act of desperation, but they may also think
92 leftyboarder : No longer the case. In fact, in the latest figures published for Jan-Feb 2013, LatAm (made up of only GRU/EZE for now) has the highest LF of all regi
93 Turkish350XWB : And change of the schedule as well as it had a major impact on the connectivity into the middle east. Maybe we can see seperated GRU EZE flights in t
94 MaverickM11 : I'm not sure; it has to be the most dreadful transatlantic schedule in existence right now. Guessing from TK's past actions, they probably just trash
95 LAXintl : IAH is booking well. Don't get distracted with low fares. TK was running 90% LF here in LA and still was selling $599 fares to Turkey last summer (as
96 adamh8297 : For BOS would they use A332 or A333 freed up from the entry of the 77W's?
97 MaverickM11 : Pretty much everything in North America over the last twelve months averages out to something in the 70s, and with those fares, and my anecdotal trip
98 Post contains links LAXintl : Actually North American LF for 2012 averaged 82.0%, with enplanements up 47.3% yoy. http://www.turkishairlines.com/downl...eri/2012_Regional_Traffic_
99 HB-IWC : I am not surprised. The configuration of the 77W in particular with 28J vs 63W seems particularly imbalanced. I believe something like 6 rows of 2-2-
100 TK787 : J fare in the upper $3000s JFK-IST if I remember correctly but Comfort class was around $1000, still half full. J is so booked that this is the secon
101 Post contains images MeCe : I will go like this; cut out half of comfort to install business cabin than go 10 abreast economy for more profit and more push comfort class. But I
102 JU068 : Any particular reason why TK is sending its A333 to Dushanbe tonight?
103 Post contains images tozbek : The new wide body order which was given last year including 2 class configuration
104 vincewy : IST-ICN showing 777 without Comfort Class, any other routes with those newly leased 777s?[Edited 2013-03-17 20:34:58]
105 HB-IWC : TK090/091 IST ICN IST and TK015/016 IST GRU EZE GRU IST are the routes that will operate withtout comfort class. They also take exactly 3 frames to o
106 TK787 : I guess just you guys suggested. I am happy Comfort stays on the JFK route. You might have the inside info on this, any idea on how many seats on eac
107 777way : Mahan air listing Isparta in ir destinations menu, nothing in schedule.
108 tkfan : According to the latest Presentation of TK, the 737-400 will leave this year, the 737-700 in 2015 and by 2017 they will have only 8 A319, 17 A320. All
109 sirtoby : Personally I expect an order for the B737MAX-8 to replace all the B737-800NG. And for the B737-700/A319 segment the CS300 could maybe have a chance..
110 Post contains links LAXintl : Don't forget TK also has 50 more 737s with delivery through 2015. http://atwonline.com/aircraft-amp-en.../turkish-airlines-orders-35-737ngs and http:/
111 leftyboarder : This is the delivery schedule I made using their presentation and the info on latest order. Don't know how deliveries of A320/320NEO/321NEO is split s
112 sirtoby : According to Boeing's website there are 14 -800's and 6 -900ER's unfilled deliveries from that order at the end of February. One -900ER was already de
113 tkfan : I expect also a follow on order with Boeing. Seeing how popular the -700MAX is, I dont think TK wants to order them. on another not, the first delive
114 Post contains images tkfan : Your table implies about >180 Aircraft yet to be delivered?? Taking into account they have nearly 210 A/C today.... sums up to Kotil's forecast. I
115 LAXintl : Yes the first batch of 738s are 15 years old this year. In total there is 18 that were delivered between 1998-2000 that will need to be considered pre
116 Post contains images leftyboarder : Yep, 190 to be exact Taking retirements into consideration, we might see 300 or so frames by 2020. Of course we will see more orders by then. About t
117 777way : Are ACT rebranding to MyCargo or will they continue as they are?
118 LAXintl : In commercial marketing sense they use MyCargo to play on their other MyTechnic MRO business name. Airlines name however remains ACT, but some things
119 Post contains links LAXintl : TK is back to GE engines on latest A330-300 order. They had gone with Rolls Royce on the -300 previously. Turkish Airlines orders more GE CF6 engines
120 Post contains links TK773ER : Looks like TK has wet leased three 77W from Jet Airways according to this http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...ease-more-b737-800s-to-sun-express Wh
121 HB-IWC : As far as I know, there was talk about 7 additional wide bodies, but so far only these 3 have been confirmed. Did the original plan call for 7 aircra
122 leftyboarder : Well, it seems MLE-CMB, KIX, and CAN will be daily (in addition to boosts for IAH, GRU-EZE, ICN) in W13, but that is still far away... Also, LOS becom
123 HB-IWC : Let's not forget that in the second half of 2013 the first 2 A333s from the new order of 20 frames will join the fleet. That will easily cover the ad
124 stylo777 : not only passenger side is grow like crazy, but also cargo! lattest addition to TK Cargo fleet is a leased MNG 332freighter. as far as I know the MAS
125 Post contains links TK1244 : TC-MNE and TC-MNY, the two MNG A300s leased by TK for its Hajj flights in 2006, wore a similar hybrid as TC-MCZ Skyliner does also show the first 737
126 Post contains links TK787 : http://kokpit.aero/ugur-cebeci-bir-kasik-suda-bogulmak According to this article, TK couldn't decide on the new uniform and decide to stay with the cu
127 Post contains images OA260 : Good choice if its not broke dont fix it
128 AwysBSB : I wonder if TK intends to launch new South American destinations from next year. Santiago can be easily operated by a 332 if the route has stops in B
129 JU068 : Istanbul Ataturk is losing a customer. airBaltic will shift all of its operations to SAW; the airline stated that they are doing this so that their cu
130 leftyboarder : Apparently the last remaining 734s at TK have been given US registrations and are leaving very soon. The end of an era and one less subtype to manage.
131 Post contains images LAXintl : What city center are they talking about? If its Istanbul and all the tourism areas, they went the wrong direction. IST is mere kilometers away, while
132 Post contains links LAXintl : Sounds like the LH-TK venture idea is still strong. Lufthansa will keep as consultant a retiring LH board member to help "deepen cooperation with Turk
133 JU068 : Haha I found it strange too. Ataturk is very close to the city while SAW is, like you said it, on another continent. I guess airBaltic is after the l
134 777way : Lufthansa Cargo link FRA-TLV to IST in summer, thrice weekly MD11F.
135 umit : Actually considering the traffic on the European side of the city specially during the rush hours makes SAW is very attractive. I live in the Anatoli
136 mercure1 : Yes but what about tourist ? Area like Topkapi or Aga Sophia are far closer to IST. For example the Havas bus from IST to Taksim says 40min per their
137 JU068 : From Turkish Airlines' Facebook page: 'Time for a new guess for our new destination! One new hint for every 1000 Likes!' Does anyone know which destin
138 emrecan : Most probably IAH. From 1st of April TK launches IAH flights.
139 Post contains images TK105 : Hi, This is my first post here in this forum. I'm living in Ankara. TK105 was my first flight and used to be main flight for Ankara passengers connect
140 umit : Welcome to a.net , very nice introduction by the way. Nice picture , I did not know TK uses planes without painting them .
141 Post contains images JU068 : They just announced it, it was Aqaba
142 Skyeurope : @TK105 That's VP-CAL, a VIP B777-200LR I saw it on FR24 this morning..
143 SR4ever : While we are at it, any real prospects that sometime in this decade, TK create a European base in ADB, with direct flights to major European Airports
144 TK1244 : AMS, DUS, FRA, ZRH, VIE are already flown by SunExpress from ADB, and I think that we will see XQ flying the other destinations instead of TK. However
145 LAXintl : TK cant even maintain its 2-class product to Ankara due lack of premium demand let alone services to Europe from Izmir. Sun Express, or competing LCC
146 JU068 : Wouldn't seasonality also prove to be a problem for Turkish Airlines in Izmir?
147 Northstar80 : This is primarily being that the business class is actually not a real business class. The seats are the same seats as economy seats (the middle seat
148 Post contains links LAXintl : In this thread it says Air France is adding Istanbul service from Paris Orly. Sounds like a existing flight is being shifted away from CDG. Air France
149 Post contains links emrecan : According to http://kokpit.aero/vip-777-kimi-tasiyor , this T7 brought the president of Cameroon to Istanbul
150 Post contains links TK773ER : I found these two photos of TK 333 showing off with the new Istanbul 2020 Olympic logo http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1208375 and this on
151 TK105 : A colleague of mine needs to visit our company rep in GIG next week. We initially planned a trip as ESB-IST-GRU-GIG via TK / TAM. Apparently for 2-3 w
152 gokmengs : Would't this limit the transfer pax capabilities of AF? Does it mean TK has so much market share that many are not choosing AF as a one stop option t
153 leftyboarder : I wouldn't call it a loss for Turkish pax, as CDG is notoriously bad for transiting - bad inter-terminal transport, few F&B options, rude staff,
154 LAXintl : Personally I think AF is trying to capture more of the local traffic flow. ORY is more central to Paris and more convenient for many. Also does not hu
155 TK105 : @LAXintl 154 As far as I know, ORY is AF 's hub for Africa. In this regard, I would not be surprised if AF also targets Francophone Africa connecting
156 Skyeurope : No, all AF flights to Africa leave from CDG. ORY has only got some European and French Overseas destinations.
157 TK105 : @Skyeurope 156: Thanks for clarification. I checked on Wiki, you are right.
158 Post contains links LAXintl : Kotil says Australia service "most likely in 2014". He mentions both nonstop option using 77W or 777LR, but at same time says "planning to connect thr
159 HB-IWC : I wouldn't be surprised if TK were in talks with AI for some of those B77Ls the latter has on offer. At a block time of 17h for IST SYD and 18h for I
160 LAXintl : Be interesting if the Air India 77L's are in play again. Last time TK spoke with them, the lease pricing AI wanted was above market rates. AI basicall
161 HB-IWC : I believe that to be the only way for TK to operate IST SYD nonstop. At 1,000 miles longer than EK's DXB LAX, I do not believe IST SYD is feasible wi
162 Post contains links TK787 : Please continue here: Turkish Aviation April 2013 (by TK787 Mar 31 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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