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Commercial Flights To Honolulu 1971/72  
User currently offlineHH65MAN From Australia, joined Feb 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 2789 times:
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Need some expert help. Would like to know which airlines flew from the US West Coast to Honolulu in 71 and 72. Sense my first flight in the middle sixties to the present I can remember them all....except when our family travelled there for a military transfer.

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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 2620 times:
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Pan Am, United, Western, AA and Braniff from Love Field Dallas.

User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2051 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

In the early 70s, HNL service from the North American mainland looked like this:

United: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York (they may have had San Diego service as well - not sure and my timetables/OAGs are at home)
Pan Am: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle/Tacoma
Northwest Orient: Seattle/Tacoma, Portland, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago
American: Chicago, St. Louis
Braniff: Dallas
TWA: Los Angeles
Western: Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose, Anchorage
Continental: Los Angeles, Seattle/Tacoma
CP Air: Vancouver

LAX and SFO were, not surprisingly, the big gateways, with SEA trailing in third. Northwest Orient continued on to Tokyo. Continental continued on to Johnston Atoll, Guam and Micronesia. Pan Am continued on to Tokyo, Guam, and several points in the south Pacific (heading for Australia and New Zealand). American also flew onward to Australia via Nadi and Pago Pago. TWA flew to Manila as part of their round-the-world service.


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3208 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 2471 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 2):
United: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York (they may have had San Diego service as well - not sure and my timetables/OAGs are at home)

UA also did BWI-HNL on a DC-8-62 around that time.

I don't think UA started SAN-HNL until after that time. WA did SAN-HNL.

It would be interesting to also list the ITO flights. PA had dropped ITO by 1971 but UA, WA, NW, BN, and CO served ITO then.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2458 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Here are a couple of websites that have historical airline schedules:
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/list.htm#B1
http://www.departedflights.com/routemaps4b.html



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User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2051 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
It would be interesting to also list the ITO flights. PA had dropped ITO by 1971 but UA, WA, NW, BN, and CO served ITO then.

I believe Pan Am axed Hilo in 1970 - either they or Braniff were the first to pull out. United, Northwest, Continental and Western all made the move to the new ITO terminal in 1976, although most didn't last long beyond that. United was the last overseas carrier to leave Hilo in 1986.


User currently offlineHH65MAN From Australia, joined Feb 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 2356 times:
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Many thanks for your replies. Any idea on the aircraft used by the airlines? I've never heard of Western. I grew up on Hickam AFB and used to live and play near the active runways and don't recall seeing them.

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3098 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 2):
In the early 70s, HNL service from the North American mainland looked like this:

United: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York (they may have had San Diego service as well - not sure and my timetables/OAGs are at home)
Pan Am: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle/Tacoma
Northwest Orient: Seattle/Tacoma, Portland, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago
American: Chicago, St. Louis
Braniff: Dallas
TWA: Los Angeles
Western: Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose, Anchorage
Continental: Los Angeles, Seattle/Tacoma
CP Air: Vancouver

LAX and SFO were, not surprisingly, the big gateways, with SEA trailing in third. Northwest Orient continued on to Tokyo. Continental continued on to Johnston Atoll, Guam and Micronesia. Pan Am continued on to Tokyo, Guam, and several points in the south Pacific (heading for Australia and New Zealand). American also flew onward to Australia via Nadi and Pago Pago. TWA flew to Manila as part of their round-the-world service.

Man, those were the days! Oh, to be at HNL back then to see all the sweet metal and liveries!!



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User currently offlinebraynfeeble From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

You could have flown on Braniff, ONA, TIA, World ?


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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3208 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 5):
I believe Pan Am axed Hilo in 1970 - either they or Braniff were the first to pull out. United, Northwest, Continental and Western all made the move to the new ITO terminal in 1976, although most didn't last long beyond that. United was the last overseas carrier to leave Hilo in 1986.

Pan Am only served Hilo for a year or two around 1969-1970. Braniff still flew DAL-ITO with a 707 for a few more years.

UA's last Hilo flight was in 1986, as you state, with a DC-10 routed something like LAX-KOA-ITO-LAX. Of course, ATA and UA have again more recently served Hilo from the mainland. I'd love to see AS in ITO, but it's probably not likely.

Quoting HH65MAN (Reply 6):
Any idea on the aircraft used by the airlines?

UA flew DC-8-50s, DC-8-61s and DC-8-62s (the latter from JFK and BWI) from all destinations. They also flew 747s and then DC-10s.

WA flew 707s and 720Bs, and later DC-10s

PA did 707s and 747s

TWA were 707s

CO were 707s

AA was 707s

Braniff was the 747 (Big Orange) and 707s

NW was 747s and 707s.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2458 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
Braniff was the 747 (Big Orange) and 707s

Correct. Braniff flew 707-320s and 747 from DAL to HNL. The 747 was used from DFW. According to this thread, Braniff used 707-138s from DAL to HNL. Braniff 707-138Bs To HNL? (by jackbr Sep 5 2012 in Civil Aviation) Reply #11.



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User currently offlineWALmsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

Quoting HH65MAN (Reply 6):

Many thanks for your replies. Any idea on the aircraft used by the airlines? I've never heard of Western. I grew up on Hickam AFB and used to live and play near the active runways and don't recall seeing them.

Western was one of the U.S. first airlines, starting service in 1926. They survived sixty years as primarily Western/Midwest U.S. airline with some East Coast destinations added in the 1970s/80s. They were merged into Delta in 1987.

They started service to Hawaii in the late 60s/early 70s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Airlines

1971 Route Map




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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25860 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 2):
CP Air: Vancouver

CP also had limited seasonal nonstop service between YYC/YEG and HNL during much of the 1970s. It was a once-a-week DC-8-63 that operated a triangular routing HNL-YEG-YYC-HNL in the early '70s. By 1975 that flight used a 747-200.


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

In 1971 CO flew HNL to PDX, SEA, ORD, LAX and Hilo-ORD, LAX.

http://www.departedflights.com/CO103171.html



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User currently offlinesfoa380 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

We used to fly Western Airlines every summer from SFO in a DC-10 "Spaceship." About an hour before landing, they would roll around this plastic volcano and serve punch--dry ice for effect and all...

User currently offlinetimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6896 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):
In 1971 CO flew HNL to PDX, SEA, ORD, LAX and Hilo-ORD, LAX.

Like it says: don't believe all that.


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3208 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Quoting timz (Reply 15):
Like it says: don't believe all that.

That is correct, although I didn't realize CO did ORD-ITO/HNL.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25860 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 16):
Quoting timz (Reply 15):
Like it says: don't believe all that.

That is correct, although I didn't realize CO did ORD-ITO/HNL.

In 1971 CO's ORD-HNL/ITO flights were one-stops via LAX, not nonstop.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5554 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 2):
United: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York (they may have had San Diego service as well - not sure.
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
I don't think UA started SAN-HNL until after that time. WA did SAN-HNL.

UA was flying nonstop SAN-HNL (using DC-8-62s) in '70-'71. (They were not flying the route in '78 and I'm not sure when they stopped flying it.)

WA also had the authority and was flying between SAN and HNL in the early '70s.

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