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PR Summer 2013 International Service Changes  
User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 768 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

Hi guys. So airlineroute.net has posted the summer 2013 changes to PR's international timetable, and quite a number of things are changing. Aside from the recently-announced expansion of service to Australia, a number of other changes are being implemented as well. Major ones include:

* MNL-SGN will stay daily, but except on Friday and Sunday, it will fly in the morning rather than in the afternoon. This allows for better connections to (and from) PR's long-haul flights.
* MNL-KUL is resuming, with four flights weekly. This is on top of 2P's existing service, which is already flown three times weekly: this increases service to seven times weekly (not daily as there are some days, like Wednesday, where neither PR nor 2P will fly to KUL).
* MNL-SIN-CGK is ending on March 31. Instead, MNL-SIN will be increased to four times daily, while the four times-weekly MNL-SIN-CGK will become non-stop as a morning MNL-CGK flight.
* KLO-PUS, a new service, begins on April 11

A full list of changes may be found at http://airlineroute.net/2013/03/01/pr-s13update1/.

In addition, 2P is resuming ZAM-SDK on April 22, which was last flown in 2010 by Z2. They will start off flying three times weekly. (As 2P planes are increasingly painted back in the PR scheme, we actually will not see any external differences between the two airlines.)

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User currently offlineflyingdoc787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4498 times:

I hope PAL will continue to re-schedule flights so that they can build up MNL as a connecting hub! MNL has an excellent location for connections between N. America and S.E. Asia (SGN, KUL, CGK, BKK, SIN), and Australia and N. Asia (PVG, PEK, PUS, ICN, NRT, KIX, etc.) and even TPE, HKG, XMN.
Of course, they would have to improve on the connection experience in MNL Terminal 2, such as adding amenities, shops, etc., and facilitating transfers between arrivals and departures.
Unfortunately, it seems Philippine-based carriers focus only on O&D instead of connecting traffic. Even Cebu Pacific can do better with regard to timing flights so that more passengers can connect in MNL.


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4357 times:

Quoting flyingdoc787 (Reply 1):
Unfortunately, it seems Philippine-based carriers focus only on O&D instead of connecting traffic.

I don't think it's PR solely focusing on O&D per se, but rather PR dealing with a shortage of aircraft, and so it's scheduling them accordingly. When the new A321s come in, and when restrictions are progressively lifted, hopefully the schedule will allow for more flights and better connections, especially to PR's North America flights.


User currently offlineairlinebuilder From Philippines, joined Nov 2012, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4013 times:

Here just in, 8 HGW A330 will be joining the Palexpress fleet and will be flying the following DOH, AUH, DXB, JED and RUD in a nutshell all Mideast flights will be flown by PALEX with premium economy seats available on an all economy configuration flight....... FYI everyone

User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 3):
Here just in, 8 HGW A330 will be joining the Palexpress fleet and will be flying the following DOH, AUH, DXB, JED and RUD in a nutshell all Mideast flights will be flown by PALEX with premium economy seats available on an all economy configuration flight....... FYI everyone

I am still disinclined to believe that PR will give 2P new A330s, and it will keep 12 new A330s for itself, plus the eight old A330s that it's been trying to get rid of. It just makes no sense. It's still more plausible for PR to give 2P its old A330s for its use, then get the new A330s for itself.

In addition, based on PR dropping hints, the most likely new destinations right now (aside from BNE, DRW, PER and KUL, which were already announced) are CAN and AUH.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=100612403&postcount=32862


User currently offlinefiloflyer From Finland, joined Feb 2012, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

So no HGW to moscow? And istanbul? And what happens next? ICAO has lifted its SSC's it issued on ph  .   hope eu will lift its ban on ph carriers very soon!

User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 3):
Here just in, 8 HGW A330 will be joining the Palexpress fleet and will be flying the following DOH, AUH, DXB, JED and RUD

Any link to that, please? All we have on that are these.....

.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...ine-airlines-orders-10-more-a330s/

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...s-major-order-for-airbus-aircraft/


And according to Airbus, the 242 ton version's projected earliest delivery is in 2015.....

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...ability-to-extend-market-coverage/

Quote:
"Airbus has improved the A330-300 and A330-200 even further by providing operators both with a 242 metric tonne maximum take-off weight (MTOW) capability and, for the larger A330-300, an increased fuel capacity option. These enhancements build on the capability announced earlier this year for an increased 240 tonne MTOW, and will be available for operators in 2015."



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User currently offlinebastew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

And also new services to Brisbane, Perth and Darwin.....but bizzarly all are with A320 equip!!  

Do PR have any A320's with long-haul style cabins?

I still have a soft spot for PR. They were the first airline I ever flew.....I was booked to fly SYD-BNE on 'Compass Airlines' and when they went bust (the first time) international airlines were allowed to carry domestic passengers on legs within Australia for a period. I ended up on a Manila bound (via BNE) DC10 from SYD.....bliss


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

Quoting bastew (Reply 7):
Do PR have any A320's with long-haul style cabins?

PR A320s have a Mabuhay Class section with a proper C product, although don't expect lie-flats! 


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

No Dammam flights by PALexpress?

Kind regards

HUYfan


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4480 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 8):
PR A320s have a Mabuhay Class section with a proper C product

That really depends on what you call a proper C product. It is a 2 - 2 layout with rather limited seat pitch, as one would expect on a narrow body aircraft, but no more than that. It doesn't compare to what the likes of SQ and TG or even CI are offering as a regional product on their A333 fleets, which are deployed on sectors of similar stage lengths as some of the proposed PR A320 sectors.


User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

Daily Manila-Abu Dhabi effective 01OCT officially announced...PR 656 arriving into AUH at 2145 daily.

I bet they will code share with Etihad beyond AUH to GCC and Europe/Africa...it will hurt the market share CX in particular out of AUH as they depend heavily on MNL support to feed their 3 weekly HKG AUH services. They will suffer the most followed by GF and then QR in terms of market share lost on this key route.

FYI, in 2012, 98,000 passengers flew MNL-AUH-MNL compared to 585,000 passengers on DXB-MNL-DXB !

Link: http://business.inquirer.net/110945/...tes-to-australia-china-middle-east


User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

And now Philippine's Ambassador to Qatar announces 6 weekly MNL-DOH nonstop flights from Oct 2013 as well

http://www.gulf-times.com/qatar/178/...to-begin-doha-flights-from-october


User currently offlineairlinebuilder From Philippines, joined Nov 2012, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

another link one would want to read philippinairspace.blogspot.com re B777 of PAL flying to the US mentioning LAX ORD and JFK

Same way the new Australian destinations with the A321s likewise with KUL.


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

MNL-CAN-MNL was also announced starting June 1, flying four times weekly, per behramjee's link. 

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 13):

another link one would want to read philippinairspace.blogspot.com re B777 of PAL flying to the US mentioning LAX ORD and JFK

PR employees at LAX are hoping that the 77W will be able to fly to there by April (PR 112/113), subject to the requisite approvals and, God willing, the lifting of Cat II. It seems that the 744s are on a very busy schedule.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2480 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 14):
PR employees at LAX are hoping that the 77W will be able to fly to there by April (PR 112/113), subject to the requisite approvals and, God willing, the lifting of Cat II. It seems that the 744s are on a very busy schedule.

The US audit is not until June as was mentioned in the thread regarding the ICAO approval so therefore no CAT II approval before the US audit.

IF they pass the audit, hopefully PR could start flying the 77W to LAX by early July. Anything sooner than that seem completely unrealistic.

The777Man



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User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 13):
another link one would want to read philippinairspace.blogspot.com re B777 of PAL flying to the US mentioning LAX ORD and JFK

found the link: http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2013/03/us-bound-finally.html

thanks

lets hope all this materializes especially ORD and JFK...no news of possible One World membership?


User currently offlineairlinebuilder From Philippines, joined Nov 2012, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1925 times:

from an article in a Philippine media news portal, now wander Philippine Airlines is taking so long to declare their remaining 35 aircraft to cap their 100 aircraft order is because from the Philippine Airlines president himself, they are considering the B787 but unfortunately with the current strings of incident, the order is on the wait and see status. The same way the PAL president mentioned that they are looking at new airbus aircrafts (no mention of type) so I assume its the A350....... after all being said, the hope for a B748i is really now dead and buried.......  

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1841 times:

Have PR served Kuwait before or was it just a code share service?

User currently offlinegardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1520 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

777way, PR did serve KWI in its own right . I know they did in the 1980s and possibly up until the early 1990s as well. i think the flights went via BKK and or KHI, and if I remember well, went onto ATH?

User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1654 times:
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I haven't seen anything on the PALexpress re branding...or did I miss something?

Best Regards!

Tomas SJC



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 20):
I haven't seen anything on the PALexpress re branding...or did I miss something?

2P planes are being repainted back into the PR livery. Ultimately, one will not be able to tell between a PR-operated flight and a 2P-operated flight except through the aircraft registration.


User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1540 times:
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Quoting Akiestar (Reply 21):
2P planes are being repainted back into the PR livery. Ultimately, one will not be able to tell between a PR-operated flight and a 2P-operated flight except through the aircraft registration.

Thanks! For some reason I thought I read a new branding was to be unveiled in the beginning of February

Tomas



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