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10 Years Of The Boeing 777-300ER  
User currently offlinesoftrally From Canada, joined Mar 2012, 81 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21741 times:

I know this topic is a little late, but I only noticed it today. 10 years ago, on February 24th, 2003, the Boeing 777-300ER made its maiden flight. Since, it turned out to be one of the most successful widebodies produced, and is Boeing's "cash cow".

Article: http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/q1/nr_030224g.html

[Edited 2013-03-04 05:43:22]


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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10763 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 21759 times:

10 years, sigh, I´m getting old. Three cheers for the engineers, three Boohs for the exterior designers!

User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 21534 times:

Congrats to Boeing on a great milestone for this outstanding technical marvel. Both a brilliant piece of engineering, and one of the best-looking birds to grace our skies!!   

Hamlet69



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8424 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 21521 times:
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Quoting na (Reply 1):
10 years, sigh, I´m getting old. Three cheers for the engineers, three Boohs for the exterior designers!

Its time for the next version of the 777, let not rest on past glory. Airbus does have an answer this time in their A350-1000 which heavy 77W user Cathay has already ordered.


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2473 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21079 times:

Congrats to Boeing and every one involved in the 777 program for creating such a wonderful aircraft!  
Quoting na (Reply 1):
three Boohs for the exterior designers!

As they say Beauty lies within the eye of the beholder... Though im not surprised you would say such a thing....



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User currently offlinefactsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 947 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21008 times:

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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4341 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20624 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 5):
So....let us celebrate with 10 beauties:

Photo © Johannes Klinghardt

Your first picture was a 777-300 (non ER) with noticably smaller engines and wings. Also this aircraft was already flying in the late 1990s.



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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1627 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20596 times:

I'm a massive Airbus fan, but for me the 77W still takes the cake as the most bad-ass looking current flying airliner. Those awesome engines, 3 wheel bogies, the length, the nose...I love it!! Knowing it can continue take-off at MTOW after V1 on one engine is just mind boggling.

Not surprisingly the GE90-115B is my favorite current engine 



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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3151 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20402 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 4):
Congrats to Boeing and every one involved in the 777 program for creating such a wonderful aircraft!
Quoting na (Reply 1):
three Boohs for the exterior designers!

As they say Beauty lies within the eye of the beholder... Though im not surprised you would say such a thing..

What do you mean? The 777-300ER is a beautiful airplane. We aren't talking the A310 here. It's stunningly beautiful and graceful.

More importantly, IMHO it's the best airplane ever designed. Until the 787 proves itself, the 777 - especially the -300ER - is hands down the best airplane overall to ever grace the skies. You name it - economical, reliable, safe, durable, easy to fly, etc.

I agree that the Boeing people who designed the -300ER should be very proud.


User currently offlineSassiciai From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2013, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 20398 times:

In my humble opinion, the 777 in all incarnations is one of the least comfortable aircraft around for long flights! It is the noisiest (by far) with these 2 great engines just outside. With the ever-more popular 3-4-3, is rather cramped, and when the cabin crew is doing service, there's no way to pass in the aisle, it's too narrow!

I quite often fly from BRU to MNL (and back), and those flights via Abu Dhabi or Qatar are very revealing. The first leg is an A330, with 2-4-2 in Y and relative peace and quiet (P&Q), followed by a 777 3-4-3 with no P&Q at all, and shouted communications with the cabin crew about everything! On rare occasions, I have benefited from an upgrade - then everything changes! On an EY upgrade flight on an A330, I didnt want to get off! LOL!

777 - great plane for its economics, but certainly not for the quality of service to the passenger! I now actively try to avoid 777 flights to get away from the noise!


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9896 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 20274 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 7):
I'm a massive Airbus fan, but for me the 77W still takes the cake as the most bad-ass looking current flying airliner. Those awesome engines, 3 wheel bogies, the length, the nose...I love it!! Knowing it can continue take-off at MTOW after V1 on one engine is just mind boggling.

Not surprisingly the GE90-115B is my favorite current engine

I totally agree with you on this too 
Quoting Sassiciai (Reply 9):
777 - great plane for its economics, but certainly not for the quality of service to the passenger! I now actively try to avoid 777 flights to get away from the noise!

Well the 77W is a game changer in its category and still going very strong so I don't think all the airlines who have ordered the 77W, purely ordered it due to its economics alone.

A388


User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 20153 times:

It would only be appropriate to pay homage to the airline that launched and was first to fly the 777-300ER:

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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3768 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19995 times:

The funny thing is that ten years ago, everyone thought that the "world-proven" and "lower-risk" A346 would kill the 77W in sales.

In the end, it was the inverse: the 77W's economics killed the A346 completely, especially during the first oil price spike.

Happy birthday, 77W!



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User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19493 times:

Quoting Sassiciai (Reply 9):

In my humble opinion, the 777 in all incarnations is one of the least comfortable aircraft around for long flights! It is the noisiest (by far) with these 2 great engines just outside. With the ever-more popular 3-4-3, is rather cramped, and when the cabin crew is doing service, there's no way to pass in the aisle, it's too narrow!

In my humble opinion, I disagree. I found the 777 to be very comfortable on long-haul. I have also flown on the A330 prior to entering the 777 sitting in the rear of both airplanes is very similar experience. Both in terms of noise and comfort. I do enjoy the larger space onboard the 777 and have not been in at 3-4-3 configured 777. Both the A330 and 777 are very comfortable 

Happy birthday 777-300ER! Time flies



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User currently offlinemanny From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19494 times:

Its been so successful that it made its competitor obsolete. Congrats to Boeing.

User currently offlinemanny From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19336 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 5):
So....let us celebrate with 10 beauties:

Some of those liveries are the blandest.

AF should be in the 10. So too AI, Thai and the latest entrant AA should be the beauties on the list!


User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19288 times:

Quoting Sassiciai (Reply 9):
I quite often fly from BRU to MNL (and back), and those flights via Abu Dhabi or Qatar are very revealing. The first leg is an A330, with 2-4-2 in Y and relative peace and quiet (P&Q), followed by a 777 3-4-3 with no P&Q at all, and shouted communications with the cabin crew about everything! On rare occasions, I have benefited from an upgrade - then everything changes! On an EY upgrade flight on an A330, I didnt want to get off! LOL!

Hello,

While I agree with the engines being quite loud, the peace and quiet, intercom communications and the seating layout is fairly relative to the airline itself. I'd avoid ten a breast everyday but there are only a handful of carriers who do this. With respect to the A330 and its accomplishments and robust sales record, the article says enough in my opinion.      


http://www.smh.com.au/travel/blogs/t...assenger-plane-20130107-2cbzr.html


User currently offlineL0VE2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 1609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 18893 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 5):
So....let us celebrate with 10 beauties:

You forgot the newest and most beautiful of them all:


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User currently offlineEightball From Saudi Arabia, joined Oct 2007, 281 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 18332 times:

Quoting factsonly (Reply 5):
So....let us celebrate with 10 beauties:

I think this beauty should be on the list:


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Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 8):
The 777-300ER is a beautiful airplane. We aren't talking the A310 here. It's stunningly beautiful and graceful.

More importantly, IMHO it's the best airplane ever designed. Until the 787 proves itself, the 777 - especially the -300ER - is hands down the best airplane overall to ever grace the skies. You name it - economical, reliable, safe, durable, easy to fly, etc.

You just described why the 777-300ER is my favorite aircraft. Big grin

[Edited 2013-03-04 12:49:43]


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User currently offlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 18105 times:

Personally, I really like this one.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/1/5/5/2220551.jpg


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 17589 times:

Quoting softrally (Thread starter):
and is Boeing's "cash cow".

Is the 77W really a bigger "cash cow" than the 737? Total 77W orders stand at 671 compared to 7,369 737NG and MAX models (not counting earlier 737 models).


User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1968 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 17395 times:

Congrats Boeing....Going on 60 years of Jet Transport history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmQE05i1l0s&t=2m8s



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13252 posts, RR: 100
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 17394 times:
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How time slips by.   

I still vividly remember the ETOPS debates that seemed to peak in 2007. Instead of all the proclaimed 'you will regret walking off a cliff,' we have had an amazingly safe and efficient decade of long haul air transit.

I'll let everyone else debate on the liveries. I'm happy for the continents connected.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1448 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16805 times:

Quoting Sassiciai (Reply 9):
In my humble opinion, the 777 in all incarnations is one of the least comfortable aircraft around for long flights! It is the noisiest (by far) with these 2 great engines just outside. With the ever-more popular 3-4-3, is rather cramped, and when the cabin crew is doing service, there's no way to pass in the aisle, it's too narrow!

I quite often fly from BRU to MNL (and back), and those flights via Abu Dhabi or Qatar are very revealing. The first leg is an A330, with 2-4-2 in Y and relative peace and quiet (P&Q), followed by a 777 3-4-3 with no P&Q at all, and shouted communications with the cabin crew about everything! On rare occasions, I have benefited from an upgrade - then everything changes! On an EY upgrade flight on an A330, I didnt want to get off! LOL!

777 - great plane for its economics, but certainly not for the quality of service to the passenger! I now actively try to avoid 777 flights to get away from the noise!

I understand the noise part, but I think everything else you mentioned comes down to the carrier configuration really. I've flownSQ's 77Ws both in Y and J and it is very comfortable even in Y if you ask me. When the likes of EK pack 10-across on a 77W, don't expect room to pass on the isles but that doesn't mean it's the aircraft type itself that sucks.



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User currently offlineEightball From Saudi Arabia, joined Oct 2007, 281 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16701 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 22):
I'm happy for the continents connected.

Indeed! Next week I'll be flying on EK 221, DXB-DFW, which is operated by a 777-200LR. The 777 family has arguably reshaped long-haul air travel.

I'm currently in a flight training program in order to get my commercial pilot license, and if my career planning works out and I become an airline pilot, then I would consider becoming a 777 Captain to be the peak of my career. Hey, one can dream.  


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25 UAL747DEN : That noise is called POWER, pure POWER!! The things that you don't like about the 777 has nothing to do with the aircraft it has to do with the AIRLI
26 L0VE2FLY : I'm not a fan of the new AA livery, but it easily trumps the Euro whites JL & EK and even EY, their billboard logo looks so tacky.
27 Post contains links and images UA735WL : I don't think there is a livery that looks bad on a 77W (well....maybe JL ...but then again, that looks bad on everything! ) But if I were to pick a f
28 RomeoBravo : I'm not a huge fan of the aesthetics though i wouldn't say it's bad looking - i prefer the shorter 777s however. It certainly is an amazing piece of m
29 will : The W class... Pure Excellence.... Nothing comes close...
30 BoeingGuy : Yeah, I'd take the "noise" of a 777-300ER than the put-put-put feeling of an A340-200 trying to get off the ground. Even Boeing pilots are in awe of
31 Post contains images markusburkhard : Uh... all twin-engined airliners can do this. Otherwise they'd never be certified to fly and no-one in their right minds would ever fly on it Cheers,
32 Post contains images starbucks : I guess travelavnut knows that too, I think he/she meant to say it in a way like "I know how it works, but I'm still amazed by the fact that the A380
33 Post contains links and images CCA : How this missed the cut I'm not sure...... View Large View MediumPhoto © Cary Liao - AeroPX
34 RayChuang : At the time the 777-300ER first flew, there was a lot of skepticism over whether Boeing could make its money back on this plane, especially in light o
35 smeagol : I am getting old. I flew tons of time of 772/772ER but the only one experience with 77W is Air Canada in 2009. 77W is my 2nd favorite aircraft (#1 is
36 CaliAtenza : Ive flown EK's and Cathay's 777W, loved them both. I hated the shell seats in Y on Cathay though; so glad they decided to switch back to the regular o
37 Post contains images rotating14 :
38 RyanairGuru : Wow, it's gone fast! This has been a truly revolutionary aircraft, one that has changed the face of long haul travel. I have to salute Boeing for crea
39 flyenthu : I love the 77W! I depend on those ultra-long hauls in a 77W to ferry me back and forth halfway around this planet every year. Sure it is a noise-maker
40 RickNRoll : Sometimes you get it wrong, sometimes you get it right. Boeing nailed it with this one. Let's not forget GE, though, the engine was a technological br
41 Post contains links and images L0VE2FLY : Of course she's gorgeous, if you want to include special liveries we might as well add this stunner: View Large View MediumPhoto © Karl Nixon
42 spacecadet : Funny thing is my first flight on a 777-300ER was the 300 mile trip from Tokyo to Osaka. (It was a JAL connecting flight; really a positioning flight
43 Post contains links and images 7BOEING7 : I was always partial to this one. View Large View MediumPhoto © Royal S King
44 Post contains links and images AirIndia : Tributes are in line for: Air France: First to fly View Large View MediumPhoto © Jens Breuer Emirates: Most ordered View Large View MediumPhoto © N9
45 rotating14 : What ever happened to that frame?? Repainted and sold??
46 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Sold to JAL as JA732J View MediumPhoto © Andrew Hunt - AirTeamImages
47 Post contains links and images vhqpa : Sold to (built for as a matter of fact) Japan Airlines JA732J View MediumPhoto © Jerry Pang
48 B777LRF : As a passenger the 777 is not my favourite aircraft by a long shot, regardless of what variant we're talking about. The 777F, on the other hand, now t
49 The777Man : Many congratulations to Boeing for the 777-300/ER ! It's a great aircraft and has exceed its expectations in many ways. I prefer the shorter 777s but
50 StickShaker : The 77W effectively has no competition and therefore no pricing pressure from a competing product - this gives room for very generous margins. The 73
51 Ferroviarius : You are 100% right, I think. I do avoid the 777 whenever possible. Most comfortable definitely 333 and 342 or 343. On the other hand, I do prefer the
52 Sassiciai : You are 100% right, I think. I do avoid the 777 whenever possible. Most comfortable definitely 333 and 342 or 343. On the other hand, I do prefer the
53 Sassiciai : I do remember one occasion, on Christmas Day in 2003, taking a Phillipines Airlines A330 flight SIN - MNL that departed Changi a full 5 or more minute
54 Post contains images CXB77L : So the 777-300ER is just 10 years young! I'm sure that there are many more to come for both the -300ER and the 777 family as a whole (in the form of
55 Post contains images Sassiciai : 9+ hours sitting listening to "the power" is not my idea of fun or comfort, and it is less than helpful in lulling me to sleep Sitting in a Cessna 152
56 Post contains images CXB77L : There's plenty of time to sleep before and after the flight ... at least, that's my philosophy I never sleep on flights.
57 Boeing767-300 : I can't believe that was ten years ago. I remember the public doubts that EK expressed over the 77W versus the A346. After better than expected perfo
58 EPA001 : A really fantastic airplane. By all means and measurements. A truly great effort in engineering. That one was quite remarkable where many (including
59 Post contains images RomeoBravo : The reason that the A346 which entered service in 2002 did so poorly in the end is elegantly highlighted in this graph... Absolutely not taking anyth
60 qf002 : I will -- A343s in the 90s.
61 brilondon : And they would have rid themselves of them in the early on in the 2000's just like the other airlines and move into the A330 or B777 aircraft.
62 qf002 : Just like CX, SQ, EK, AF, LH, SA, LA (and all the other airlines that still operate A340s alongside A330s/777s) did? I think a mixed fleet of A330s a
63 spacecadet : Well, you realize that the engines being so powerful means they're actually on a *lower* power setting during cruise than something like an A330 woul
64 Post contains images RyanairGuru : I agree. Go back to 1993 and the 343/5 would have proved the perfect aircraft for routes such as BNE-LAX, SYD-FRA, SYD-EZE/SCL etc. They would have c
65 VC10er : Perfection was achieved with all 777's. The W is the cherry on the cake of the perfect airplane. Her crisp, razor sharp lines, giant engines get my te
66 RayChuang : I think the most pleasant surprise for the 777-300ER was the change from the original 7180 to 7800 nautical mile still air range. Just that small addi
67 Post contains images CXB77L : And THAT is the 777's legacy. Airbus may have been the first to develop a widebody twin, but Boeing was the first to develop a long haul widebody twi
68 Norcal773 : You contradict yourself a lot because there's no 'quiet' airplane per se. Ever heard of noise-canceling headphones? Comes in handy on ALL airplanes e
69 qf002 : ETOPS. If they wanted to fly a smaller long haul aircraft across the Pacific (ie BNE-LAX, SYD-SFO, SYD-EZE/SCL, perhaps YVR etc) then they would have
70 Post contains links rwessel : I'm not sure what that graph is tracking (Jet-A prices?), but it does not appear to be adjusted for inflation, which make it rather deceiving. It sho
71 Post contains images EPA001 : In any comparable position in the A340 compared to the B77W, the A340 is quieter. Clearly, and there is no discussion about that. The difference betw
72 Post contains links and images RomeoBravo : No it wasn't adjusted but it's still better than looking at gasoline prices as they're taxed differently. Here's another chart...
73 Sassiciai : Well, I actually don't like headphones, and prefer to pass my time reading a book, with the moving map on the IFE, so for me, noise level is quite im
74 Post contains images Norcal773 : Wait, you can't read a book with Noise canceling headphones on? That's new but to each their own. My point is the noise level between an A350 and a 7
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