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The 13th Colombian Aviation Thread  
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 12
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9090 times:

So to start this new topic I post the news on Aviancataca's 2012 profit, which jumped 73% to 195 million USD:

http://www.portafolio.co/negocios/ut...des-la-firma-aviancataca-crecen-73

To a good discussion,


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
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User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9002 times:

The master plan for BOG:

http://aviacionyturismo.wordpress.co...-maestro-del-aeropuerto-el-dorado/

It includes an extension of the north runway to 4700 meters. Is that necessary? Wouldn't the aircraft reach their maximum tire speeds before being able to use the whole length of it?



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlinetrent772 From Colombia, joined Oct 2012, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8890 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 1):
being able to use the whole length of it?

Airplanes never use the whole length of the runway for take-off, the length of the runway must be enough to accelerate to V1 loose an engine, abort the take-off and stop within the paved surface using wheel brakes only or, accelerate to V1 loose an engine, continue the take-off and cross the opposite threshold at 35ft AGL.

That's why you see airplanes lifting off from the runway at about 2/3 of the length most of the time.

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 1):
Wouldn't the aircraft reach their maximum tire speeds

They indeed would, at BOG's elevation this plays a big role when calculating MTOW, also with the higher speeds another limitation comes into play, Brake Energy, this is the capability of the wheel brakes to stop the airplane when it reaches its maximum kinetic energy accelerate-stop speed, brake energy is typically the limiting factor in high/moderately hot conditions, on long runways, with lower flap settings.

IMO the plan to add 900m to the northern runway lacks an in-depth investigation on the matter, I think 300m should do the trick, but who cares? Why stretch the runway 300m for a price if you can stretch it 900m for 50 times the same price?

The master plan is nice and all but it won't be finished in our lifetimes.

One question though, will the 900m be added to the western (13L) threshold or the eastern one (31R)?

[Edited 2013-03-11 23:06:53]


Pedaling Squares…
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9708 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8820 times:

Nice and clear explanation trent772, thanks 

RCS763AV, a tip when starting a new thread would be to put the number of the thread at the end of the thread title so it is easier to find, just as all other country threads do. I didn't see this thread because the "13" was mentioned within the front part of the title. Even so, thanks for starting it.


About AV's new livery, is there more news? It is supposed to be unveiled this month, right? I have a scale model of the AV 787 where you see the airline titles slightly larger on the aircraft then it is now. Could this be the only change to the new revised livery? I think such a change would be enough. As the saying goes: "Why fix it, when it isn't broke" 

A388


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8804 times:

Quoting trent772 (Reply 2):
IMO the plan to add 900m to the northern runway lacks an in-depth investigation on the matter, I think 300m should do the trick, but who cares? Why stretch the runway 300m for a price if you can stretch it 900m for 50 times the same price?

That's exactly what I thought. 900m is way too much.

Quoting trent772 (Reply 2):
The master plan is nice and all but it won't be finished in our lifetimes.

I think we will, the new legal framework (public-private association law) and reinforced institutional forces that the Santos government has taken time to put in place will surely get the project going much faster than the inept Pastrana and Uribe governments, at a much lower price too. That said, this is still Colombia so I don't expect it to be ready in 15 years, more like 25-30.

Quoting trent772 (Reply 2):
One question though, will the 900m be added to the western (13L) threshold or the eastern one (31R)?

Western of course. It would require a lot of valuable land inside the city to extend to the east.

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
About AV's new livery, is there more news? It is supposed to be unveiled this month, right?

The week May 20 is what they're saying.

On other news, CM Colombia keep reinforcing their ADZ operations after the addition of PEI, the CLO-ADZ route goes from 7 to 12 weekly flights starting may 31st.

CM7466 CLO0001 %u2013 0156ADZ E90 x47
CM7464 CLO1157 %u2013 1352ADZ E90 D
CM7467 ADZ0226 %u2013 0426CLO E90 x47
CM7465 ADZ1225 %u2013 1425CLO E90 x67
CM7465 ADZ1634 %u2013 1834CLO E90 67

They've certainly found their domestic niche in ADZ, they seem to be making money off of it.

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
RCS763AV, a tip when starting a new thread would be to put the number of the thread at the end of the thread title so it is easier to find, just as all other country threads do.

Or maybe just take a closer look. Many of the other country threads have a phrase behind the number and people keep responding to them.



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineav757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 660 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8796 times:
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Avianca chooses LEAP-1A engines from CFM for its A320NEO fleet.

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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9708 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8795 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 4):
Or maybe just take a closer look. Many of the other country threads have a phrase behind the number and people keep responding to them.

No matter how you look at it, we can all agree that it is much easier to find when the number is at the end, unless we all read from right to left!!!!

A388


User currently offlinetroest From Denmark, joined Mar 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8720 times:

Avianca initiates BOG-MAD service increase from 10 to 14 weekly effective 17MAY13. Initially planned from 30APR13 but got postponed.

AV026 BOG1447 – 0725+1MAD 330 D
AV010 BOG2135 – 1415+1MAD 330 D

AV027 MAD0925 – 1300BOG 330 D
AV011 MAD1720 – 2054BOG 330 D


User currently offlinetroest From Denmark, joined Mar 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8696 times:

Quoting trent772 (Reply 2):
IMO the plan to add 900m to the northern runway lacks an in-depth investigation on the matter, I think 300m should do the trick, but who cares? Why stretch the runway 300m for a price if you can stretch it 900m for 50 times the same price?

Arrivals:
Larger planes will have more length to brake on a wet runway. Planes come in at a higher speed on high altitude airports as you mentioned than those at sea level.

http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p624/troest80/Skaeligrmbillede2013-03-12kl231855_zps0f9483ac.png

Departures:
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p624/troest80/Skaeligrmbillede2013-03-12kl233730_zpscb9d5772.png

Quoting trent772 (Reply 2):
One question though, will the 900m be added to the western (13L) threshold or the eastern one (31R)?

It would be added on the western threshold.

[Edited 2013-03-12 16:23:50]

User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4385 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8630 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 4):
CM Colombia keep reinforcing their ADZ operations after the addition of PEI, the CLO-ADZ route goes from 7 to 12 weekly flights starting may 31st.

CM7466 CLO0001 %u2013 0156ADZ E90 x47
CM7464 CLO1157 %u2013 1352ADZ E90 D
CM7467 ADZ0226 %u2013 0426CLO E90 x47
CM7465 ADZ1225 %u2013 1425CLO E90 x67
CM7465 ADZ1634 %u2013 1834CLO E90 67


Speaking about their international routes, CM BOG-CUN goes from 2x to 4x weekly from June 15th and CM PTY-HAV goes from 1x to 3x weekly from June 16th.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8564 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 9):
Speaking about their international routes, CM BOG-CUN goes from 2x to 4x weekly from June 15th and CM PTY-HAV goes from 1x to 3x weekly from June 16th.

Indeed. That was discussed on the previous thread. Thanks.


Brazil is studying giving their support to Avianca in the acquisition of TAP. They suggest the bidding be done via the AviancaTaca holding which is only focused on aviation and not the Synergy Group which has a number of different interests:

http://www.latercera.com/noticia/neg...n-la-compra-de-aerolinea-tap.shtml

This is great news. AV and TP will make great partners across the atlantic.



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlinetrent772 From Colombia, joined Oct 2012, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8534 times:

Quoting troest (Reply 8):

Arrivals:
Larger planes will have more length to brake on a wet runway. Planes come in at a higher speed on high altitude airports as you mentioned than those at sea level.

Nice graphs!! Now I clearly understand why LH Cargo won't start the approach into BOG with a wet runway, I've heard them request a hold when the brake actions is less than good.

I understand the landing, it makes perfect sense having the chance to land airplanes into BOG at MLW, more cargo, what's not to like?.
I strongly disagree with the Take-off graph as it clearly does not take into account the elevation, and if it somehow does it is not taking into account the ground speed during take-off, at sea level indicated airspeed equals ground speed if the wind is calm, at 8360ft above sea level, ground speed is close to 20% higher than indicated airspeed so you would be getting awfully close to the tire speed limit with a rotation speed of 155kt, airplanes are already reaching these speeds with the present runway without a problem, no airplane out of BOG is field restricted rendering the runway extension useless, the problem with BOG is the second segment climb due to the surrounding terrain.

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
About AV's new livery, is there more news?

I had a chance to see a render claiming it was the final thing, all I can say is EPIC FAIL!!!! (Just as I predicted  )
it was going around facebook, maybe someone else has seen it?

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 4):
the inept Pastrana and Uribe governments

At last, we agree on something  



Pedaling Squares…
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9708 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8516 times:

Quoting trent772 (Reply 11):
Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
About AV's new livery, is there more news?

I had a chance to see a render claiming it was the final thing, all I can say is EPIC FAIL!!!! (Just as I predicted )
it was going around facebook, maybe someone else has seen it?

Now I'm getting more interested, someone please post a picture of this rendering...

A388


User currently offlinetroest From Denmark, joined Mar 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8508 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 12):
Now I'm getting more interested, someone please post a picture of this rendering...
Quoting trent772 (Reply 11):
I had a chance to see a render claiming it was the final thing, all I can say is EPIC FAIL!!!!

This is what I could find. I personally don't like the "Avianca" name written so big on the side fuselage. Prefer the same size as it is used today. The new colors.... I still don't like. What do you think?
http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p624/troest80/Skaeligrmbillede2013-03-13kl175034_zpse0ddb38c.png

[Edited 2013-03-13 10:01:04]

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9708 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8489 times:

Quoting troest (Reply 13):
This is what I could find. I personally don't like the "Avianca" name written so big on the side fuselage. Prefer the same size as it is used today. The new colors.... I still don't like. What do you think?

Is this really the official new livery? It doesn't look official. In any case, I see they have copied the eagle that the new AA livery has, only difference is that this eagle is the AV eagle or condor. All in all, if this really is the new livery, then damn. Bad bad bad. Changing a corporate livery totally as AA did, is very risky and the chances of it firing back is much bigger than it is a success. AA did a great job, even though I didn't like it at all at first. The new AV livery to me is different and I think the current livery is way much better.

A388


User currently offlinetroest From Denmark, joined Mar 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8477 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 14):
Is this really the official new livery? It doesn't look official. In any case, I see they have copied the eagle that the new AA livery has, only difference is that this eagle is the AV eagle or condor.

Not sure and hope not. But this one is circulating on the web.

AA's new livery reminds me of Cubana de Aviación.


The ninth AV A330 N280AV will arrive from TLS to MDE on Friday 22MAR13 painted in all white. Maybe this one will be painted is Star Alliance colors or in the new livery. Hopefully not like the one posted.

[Edited 2013-03-13 10:39:30]

User currently offlinesumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8451 times:

Quoting troest (Reply 13):
The new colors.... I still don't like. What do you think?

I like the tail: A red parrot (Taca) perched, with its long tail going under the fuselage (so one would be able to identify from underneath).
The condor (Avianca) has been left to the engines and logo. 2 birds in one plane. What I don't like is the large Avianca title in all that fuselage whiteness. It looks cheap. If only there was a counterbalancing motif towards the front and smaller titles, it would look better.

The design is clearly a compromise to include both TA, AV and cost. But there is room to go the extra mile.
If it stays like shown, I trust that, at least, the colours will look better on the metal.

Quoting troest (Reply 15):
The ninth AV A330 N280AV will arrive from TLS to MDE on Friday 22MAR13 painted in all white. Maybe this one will be painted is Star Alliance colors or in the new livery

We'll have to see. It might well be the new livery.


User currently offlineRICARIZA From Colombia, joined Apr 2005, 2382 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8305 times:

I doubt (hope not) that's the final livery. I expect something better from AV taking into account they currently have a successful and beautiful and fairly new livery.. I expect to see something closer to the current livery with some TA influence...

I really hope this is not the livery, this will be a complete fail !!



I miss ACES, I am proud of AVIANCA & I am loyal to AMERICAN
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4302 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8148 times:

How is EasyFly doing? They fly about 10 Jetstream-41 props. I read somewhere they temporarily ceased operations on 31 January but further research showed the operate as normal.


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8111 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 18):
How is EasyFly doing? They fly about 10 Jetstream-41 props.

They're actually making money, and they fly more than the jetstreams. the fleet is constantly expanding with them opening new bases every couple of years (right now the bases are BOG, EOH and BGA with BAQ consolidating as one too).

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 18):
I read somewhere they temporarily ceased operations on 31 January but further research showed the operate as normal.

There is an issue and it's the fact that 40% of the airline was owned by a capital fund called Interbolsa that resulted in bankruptcy due to illegal and irresponsible practices which was a major scandal in the country. It is a major concern and no one still knows what's going to happen with this share of the company. I didn't know they had suspended operations on January 31 but it's probably due to that.



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7974 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 4):
They've certainly found their domestic niche in ADZ, they seem to be making money off of it.

no wonder with such high fares!

cheers
Avianca



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8748 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 7780 times:

Chile's DGAC recently approved LAN Colombia's AOC and the carrier is now permitted to operate flights between Colombia and Chile. LAN Colombia is currently the only LATAM affiliate carrier that does not operate into Chile. LAN Colombia's COO stated that the carrier plans on launching a daily non-stop service between BOG and SCL by 01JUL13 utilizing the B-767-316ER:
LAN COLOMBIA OPERARÁ EN CHILE


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8748 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 7704 times:

Also starting in June, LAN Colombia will increase frequencies on the BOG-ADZ, BOG-CTG, BOG-CUC, and BOG-SMR routes.

User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 7586 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 22):
Also starting in June, LAN Colombia will increase frequencies on the BOG-ADZ, BOG-CTG, BOG-CUC, and BOG-SMR routes.

CUC, SMR and ADZ I imagine will be going from three to four daily flights, and BOG-CTG to six daily flights?


On other news, Avianca are adding a 7th daily flight to SMR, which will depart at 22h from BOG, RON is SMR and come back at 6am. This will enable the city to be connected to the international night arrival bank and the morning departure bank, which wasn't possible before, meaning Santa Marta will have much better connections to North America. Flight is to be operated by the Airbus A318.



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4385 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7451 times:

Does "Cubana de Aviación" still operate the BOG-HAV sector using their own planes?
Any word concerning to the low amount of weekly frequencies served by either AV BOG-HAV and CM BOG-HAV.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
25 SCL767 : On a weekly basis: CU348 08:15 HAV 10:30 BOG TU-204 CU349 12:00 BOG 16:45 HAV TU-204 Well there are more frequencies between LIM and HAV compared to
26 Post contains links SCL767 : With the introduction of the B-767-316ERs into its fleet; LAN Colombia has implemented new schedules on the BOG-GRU and BOG-MIA routes: Boeing 767, un
27 summa767 : Route News: jetBlue will go double on BOG-MCO from 20th June. The current flight will change schedule to make for a more efficient operation. AV has p
28 Post contains links RCS763AV : For real? That's your what you have to say? The amount of frequencies is indeed low, but this was an untapped market which was being milked by CM via
29 summa767 : Could wel happen. NK has really stagnated in Colombia after a fast rise. We never heard any more about the plan for a small hub at BOG. I forgot to m
30 RCS763AV : They have indeed, but it's because they have stopped growing at FLL after having found a very lucrative market at other US fortress hubs that have ve
31 av757 : Avianca will do today the delivery ferry flights from LFBO/TLS of its tenth A330-243 registration N280AV/cn1400 which is in an all white livery to SKR
32 Post contains images airliner777 : Great news for both carriers!!!
33 777jaah : Not to be picky, but Interbolsa was more of a financial holding, not a capital fund, like Grupo Aval. AV has always said that Viva is the real compet
34 av757 : It has been confirmed that A330-243 N280AV/cn1400 will be painted in the white/black Star Alliance livery next week before starting regular operation
35 Post contains links troest : Found this from other forums: The Colombian ministry of (proteccion social) social protection gave LAN Colombia a sanction effective 13 march 2013 for
36 falkerker : Dont bang me if this question is ignorant (perhaps it is just me talking with my desire) but is it aerodinamically possible for large airlines (EK co
37 777jaah : From what I've read in this forums, fue to max tire speed, it won't be possible, despite runway lenght. IMHO, the best way we could get a direct link
38 Post contains images trent772 : Well, it could make it from a physics stand point, it would have to be empty though, and that would be a disaster from a business stand point. This h
39 trent772 : A couple of weeks back Aires finally changed its callsign to "LanColombia" thus effectively ending 31 years of Aires history. May LAN Colombia last an
40 A388 : Is there more information on AV's new livery? What is the final look of the new livery and when will the first aircraft be painted and which aircraft
41 777jaah : Come on! That's a really unfair, every employee in Colombia wil get their butts kicked!!! Has anyone seen any f the works being done at BOG regarding
42 Post contains links RCS763AV : While talking about the renovation works being finished in CTG by SACSA and in BAQ by Aerocivil themselves, the director of the organism has spilled o
43 trent772 : I don't think they've started yet. I'm guessing that to have a clear view of the entire complex the best place to put the new tower is where CATAM is
44 RCS763AV : They're finished. You mean the eastern side? Also, due to environmental concerns with the ciénaga surrounding the airport, the runway extension woul
45 trent772 : They are? I was there last week and they surely don't look like they're done, I saw a lot of cardboard walls and unfinished work, I sincerely hope th
46 tavong : Or Bogotá, remember that Bogotá was more or less a lake before the city is now. I´m not a geologist, but if i remember correctly more or less 50%
47 jfk777 : is LAN ever going to fly to Miami from BAQ or CTG ?
48 RCS763AV : They were handed to Aerocivil on the date the article was published. They're done. Let's see what happens with CTG. If they really want to make it a
49 trent772 : Hello All, Today while leaving the active runway (13R), we crossed paths with a B737 belonging to the Colombian Air Force, I'm sure it was either a se
50 Post contains links 777jaah : Is a 737-400. I know conversion from pax to combi was made somewhere in Asia by an american company. FAC oficially received the airplane on april 09
51 trent772 : Thanks for the links, lazy on my part not to look it up. It sure looks like a nice plane, any ideas on where and what missions it will be deployed on
52 RCS763AV : Avianca are significantly increasing their caribbean operations, With the new 3x weekly flights to SJU and 4x weekly flights to CUN, Avianca are also
53 A388 : The increase to CUR (and I'm guessing to AUA as well) is seasonal and is done every year so this increase isn't anything special. Does anyone here kn
54 Post contains images RICARIZA : The only status is a rumor that it would be mostly white with a new condor-like logo in red, a red tail and red engines.. really bad livery, very clos
55 Post contains images A388 : Thanks RICARIZA, I totally agree with you A388
56 RICARIZA : Actually, I just noticed that I was posted here on Reply 13, not sure if you saw it. That's the one I am referring to.
57 A388 : I have seen that post, thanks RICARIZA. As you said, let's hope that isn't the new livery. A388
58 Post contains links RCS763AV : CUR and AUA operate daily year-round, i don't understand what you think I said in my previous post... On other news, regional operator Easyfly have i
59 A388 : No they don't operate daily year round, at least not to CUR. CUR is operated daily only during high season, during low season it is operated 5 times
60 A388 : Current BOG-CUR schedule: AV92 BOG CUR 319 DEP 1456 ARR 1746 DAYS 1.3...7 AV92 BOG CUR 318 DEP 1456 ARR 1746 DAYS ...456. They currently operate 6 tim
61 Post contains links trent772 : A very interesting article regarding the future of Avianca. http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....e-xml/AW_04_22_2013_p37-569573.xml Interesting thin
62 A388 : Nice article indeed and nothing new actually. Only the A350 deployment is news to me as you say but coming to think of it, it doesn't surprise me. Wh
63 bogota : Nothing is written in stone, as it was said before and refuted by many, AV was interested in keeping the A330 together with the B787. I can be quite s
64 Post contains links troest : Avianca increase BOG-GRU-BOG 14x weekly effective 02MAY13 10 of the flights will be operated with A330s and the rest with A319s. Link in Spanish only:
65 RCS763AV : BOG-GRU-BOG has been 14x weekly for a long time now. The upgrade consists on extra capacity being added as more A330s will be operating the flights.
66 troest : Thanks for clearing it up. Perhaps it will be become an all A330 route soon.
67 A388 : Okay, that's good. A388
68 Post contains links RCS763AV : Avianca is again on the top 5 most recognized brands in Colombia, taking the 4th position: http://www.dinero.com/edicion-impres...o/las-marcas-mas-rec
69 danimarroquin : really good interview for the Aerocivil director . Colombian's market its over flowing and needs extreme expansions all over the country !!!!!
70 Post contains links 777jaah : Here's some articles on todays newspapers on the future of Catam, that will be moved to Madrid AFB, and El Dorado. http://www.elespectador.com/noticia
71 RCS763AV : It's great news that the government is finally taking an active role in expanding El Dorado to it's true potential. The plan includes, Transferring CA
72 falkerker : They state a 900m extension would allow transat flight sto operate at 98% (instead of the actual 70%), is that true? If it is, it would make BOG a mu
73 777jaah : Me neither I still doubt about tire speed limitations. Maybe someone with real technical knowledge can give us some info on that. About the companies
74 trent772 : Interesting article, CATAM should have been moved out of EDR centuries ago. What a load of BS, airspace around BOG isn't running out, there's plenty o
75 falkerker : There was some news a while back that AF was wondering about switching A340 to 777 bacause they needed larger capacity but they were hesitant because
76 Post contains links trent772 : A much more in-depth look into what ElDorado will become. http://www.portafolio.co/economia/el...ado-sera-toda-una-ciudad-comercial Your thoughts?
77 Post contains links falkerker : New Avianca Livery leaked... Aside from the obvious copy from AA, I do like it (although I'll get bashed for saying so) http://www.flickr.com/photos/b
78 RCS763AV : It's a BIG step backwards from the current and very beautiful livery. They incorporated the bland TACA look. Fail.
79 falkerker : Although the current livery was beautiful, I think it was a tad outdated and needed some refurbishment. Granted, they could have done MUCH better, but
80 trent772 : This new livery is wrong on so many levels it's not even funny. And to think that actually some lame design agency got paid for this? I could have don
81 Post contains images MATURRO727 : well, maybe the same agency designed both AV and AA new livery, if so what a lazy bastards... agreed ! Now im wondering what will happen wth AV Brasi
82 Post contains links RCS763AV : With the surge of travel between Colombia and Mexico after the visa imposition was removed, Avianca are now launching seasonal MDE-MEX flights: http:/
83 Post contains links RCS763AV : Here's the press release for the launch of MDE-MEX fights, to operate between the 5th of july and september the 1st, 3x weekly, on airbus A320 aircraf
84 Post contains links RCS763AV : Interjet to finally start flights to BOG, after the mexican government has assigned them over the ghost of MX for the route: http://eleconomista.com.m
85 SJOtoLIR : The press release didn't state the intended date for the first flight. InterJet is regulated under the low-cost model and it may imply the reduction
86 RCS763AV : It says next summer...that's all indeed. It will surely mean the reduction of fares between BOG and MEX. Traffic between Colombia and Mexico is soari
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