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Fly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3120 posts, RR: 53
Posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 644 times:

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What can be done to prevent this in the future?
- There can never be 100% guarantee that airport security works (plus all other airport staff)
- Neither can anti-aircraft weapons be a solution

So how about:

- Steel cockpit doors like on El Al (that is a rumour, I don't know if it's true)?
- Self destruction devices on board? (But at the moment of the highjacking the pilot doesn't know the real intent yet)
- The possibility to control the plane from the ground in emergency situations, overruling cockpit commands? Would that be possible with today's technology?

And I'm sure the experts come up with more ideas that I can't think of right now.

Konstantin

Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been...

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Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 606 times:

Hi !

Steel cockpit doors are a very good idea for every aircraft.

Self destruction devices sounds like in a James Bond movie, i am sure that no pilot would aktivate them during the flight.

The possibility to control the airplane from the ground is also a very good idea but todays technology isn`t so far today.

I have no idea how we can make air travelling saver. Every time when i board a plane in the USA i feel very save, it is very mysterious that terrorist can walk through a security at a US airport.

Patrick

Fly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3120 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 598 times:

I (used to) feel safe in the US in general (except for street crime), but for domestic flights, I don't think security was particularly strict.

I just read an article that ground-control for planes has been developed some 20 years ago - even if the 720 fuel crash test failed.

Konstantin

Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been...

Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 590 times:

Flying the plane from the ground may not be too far off.ACARS has the potential to do it in the future

Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 581 times:

That sounds very interesting that ground control for planes has been developed 20 years ago.

But i think a system like that would be to expensive for comercial airplanes.

The problem is the security on the ground, if they look more strict to the passengers and their luggage this had never happend.

Patrick

Flight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3292 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 569 times:

- Self destruction devices on board? (But at the moment of the highjacking the pilot doesn't know the real intent yet)

Yeah, thats a good idea, kill everyone on the plane....

(see the sarcasim?)

Flybulldog From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 562 times:

If steel doors, don't the pilots have to come out to eat, use the restroom? What if they started killing passengers?

GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12715 posts, RR: 80
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 560 times:

I'm afraid that US domestic flights will have to match the standards of security of international flights, and keep in line with with likely upgrades to those.
If that means less flights, longer check-in times, so be it.
It also could mean higher prices, as airlines will have employ better trained, better paid security personell.
These are practical and likely measures.
I suspect some heads at the FAA will roll too. Security staff here have commented that FAA observers in the past commented that they did not need the standards of security they encountered here as 'there will never be hi-jackings of US domestic airliners.'

AWA22 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 555 times:

You cant have steel doors. The doors have to breakaway for the crew can get out in an emergency. Steel is not flexible enough. Watch ABC they have a very good aviation expert on every couple of hours, unlike other experts on other networks the one on ABC is actually a former airline pilot.

Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 679 times:

Well I have an answer that is a double edged sword:

Until further notice, I am engaging in a blanket boycott of the entire airline industry.

True, this does give the terrorists a certain level of victory that they were striving to achieve.

But on the other hand, the airlines (and the airports and associated industries) will not receive another dime from me as long as these Orwellian and invasive, and frankly, ridiculous paranoid security measures are in effect.

Not to mention the incompetence and mismanagement of the existing system that allowed this disaster to happen in the first place.

It did not HAVE to come to this.

Please read my post about "Calling a spade a spade" thread in the non-av forum.

Alessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 551 times:

Dear GDB!
I agree with you, price of domestic airtravel around the
globe
will go up, big investment that will improve the safety
at airports will take place. Perhaps connecting flights from small airports with lack of controll of facilities will force passengers to check in again.

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