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Indian Aviation Thread Part 103  
User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13581 times:

Part 102 can be found here: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 102 (by LAXDESI Dec 17 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Some interesting Air India on time numbers can be found here: http://www.pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=87352

Quote:
The Minister of State for Civil Aviation Shri K.C. Venugopal informed Rajya Sabha today that Air India and Air India Express have achieved schedule integrity of 99.58 per cent and 99.18 per cent respectively. In addition, Air India and Air India Express have also achieved On Time Performance (OTP) of more than 76.10 per cent and 91 per cent respectively during the Winter Schedule. This was a result of several steps being taken such as close monitoring, optimization of schedules, frequent feedback, making contingency arrangements etc. which were initiated during the winter Schedule These came into effect from 28th October, 2012.

The Minister also informed the Rajya Sabha that no flights of Air India and Air India Express from Kerala to Middle East were cancelled during the year 2013 upto 10th March 2013. However there have been some instances of delays due to various reasons. In case of delays or cancellations passengers are informed in advance and those passengers reaching the airport are attended as per the prescribed norms.

75% OTP during winter (fog season) and less than 0.5% cancellation is indeed a good sign for AI's continued operational restructuring.

In addition, ICAO has published a pretty damning report of DGCA: http://www.livemint.com/Politics/nAD...-air-safety-concerns-in-India.html

Quote:
The United Nations (UN) aviation watchdog has expressed grave concerns on India’s air safety, placing it among the 13 worst-performing nations on this count, according to excerpts of an audit report.

...

The organization has clubbed India with Angola, Congo, Djibouti, Eritrea, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Kazakhstan, Lebanon, Lesotho, Malawi, and Sao Tome and Principe.



Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
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User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13566 times:

The ICAO report excerpt is shocking and disturbing. As is the DGCA's casual response to it.

"The organization has clubbed India with Angola, Congo, Djibouti, Eritrea, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Kazakhstan, Lebanon, Lesotho, Malawi, and Sao Tome and Principe.

A DGCA spokesman dismissed the concerns as “procedural issues”."

Incidentally Bangladesh was on this list too, but managed to get out of it last year. Yet another area where they have moved ahead of us. The report specifically notes "None of India’s neighbours—Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka or the Maldives—has been red-flagged".


User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 13559 times:

On the AI OPT stats: Don't know why, but I remain skeptical. My last trip through Delhi in late January this year on a bright and sunny day, I actually took a photo of the Departures board. Half the AI flights were delayed, and a couple cancelled. None of the other airlines showed any problems. But this kind of actual observation always seems to be explained away as a one-off, and never seems to show up in the stats!

User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 13439 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 2):
On the AI OPT stats: Don't know why, but I remain skeptical. My last trip through Delhi in late January this year on a bright and sunny day, I actually took a photo of the Departures board. Half the AI flights were delayed, and a couple cancelled. None of the other airlines showed any problems. But this kind of actual observation always seems to be explained away as a one-off, and never seems to show up in the stats!

The data is for 2012. AI's reliability fell off a cliff since mid-December, and is only starting to recover.

SG has also been doing terribly lately...

Quoting sankaps (Reply 1):
The ICAO report excerpt is shocking and disturbing. As is the DGCA's casual response to it.

Yes, the DGCA response is very concerning as well.



Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
User currently offlinegoacom From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 13379 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 2):

Hmm, interesting. I observed a similar pattern when I was travelling in Dec/Jan while at Bom. Perhaps the phosphors on the monitors have been permanently burnt in to show "late" due to its past record, lol.
Ps. I for one do not trust any AI stats. This POS airline and the government policies that have been established to "protect" it have been the main cause of the calamity facing the Indian aviation sector today.


User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 13314 times:

Quoting goacom (Reply 4):
Ps. I for one do not trust any AI stats. This POS airline and the government policies that have been established to "protect" it have been the main cause of the calamity facing the Indian aviation sector today.

I completely agree! I don't trust too many stats from the GOI in any case, lots of cooking of data in general, a real disconnect from the on-the-ground reality.


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13295 times:

Quoting goacom (Reply 4):
Ps. I for one do not trust any AI stats. This POS airline and the government policies that have been established to "protect" it have been the main cause of the calamity facing the Indian aviation sector today.

After the KFA reliability debacle, the government has started using airport data to establish OTP, to avoid data fudging.



Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13289 times:

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 6):
After the KFA reliability debacle, the government has started using airport data to establish OTP, to avoid data fudging.

That's good. When did that start though?


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 13107 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 7):
That's good. When did that start though?

Around a year ago? I don't remember exactly...



Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 394 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 12928 times:

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/TQO...ament-on-UN-air-safety-report.html

Quote:
Aviation ministry misled Parliament on air safety report: council

The aviation ministry misled the Indian Parliament about a safety audit draft report by a United Nations watchdog, a member of the Civil Aviation Safety Advisory Council (CASAC) said in a letter to aviation minister Ajit Singh and aviation secretary K.N. Srivastava.
This is a very serious allegation. I wonder who will be made to fall on the grenade this time so that top bosses can   .



I am on Twitter @BLRAviation
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12911 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 1):
The ICAO report excerpt is shocking and disturbing

Most Issues seem to be manpower related and regulationwise......
DGCA needs to follow an EASA position in terms of regulatory work.......



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6086 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12768 times:

Ariana KBL-Dushanbe-DEL soon http://www.flyariana.com/index.asp

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12487 times:

There is currently a rumour here at AMS tha 9W is thinking about a second daily BOM/DEL - YYZ flight via AMS (next to the flight via BRU). Is this a credible rumour? It sounds so strange..

User currently offlineVTORD From United States of America, joined exactly 2 years ago today! , 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12410 times:

I doubt. They just went from A330-200 to A330-300 on that route. Is demand that high on that route....?

http://www.jetairways.com/EN/US/Pres...rbus330-300DelhiTorontoSector.aspx

Last week there was a story in the Indian press about the "possibility" of the EY deal falling through. So unless 9W is cozying up to KLM as a codeshare partner and thinking of starting AMS.....



Get your facts first. Then you may distort them as you like.
User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12200 times:

While landing at SAW (Istanbul sabiha Gokcen), i saw an Air India Cargo A310 freighter. It seemed like parked there or ages.. whats the story, does AI fly freighters to SAW or is that one just parked there

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12144 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 14):

While landing at SAW (Istanbul sabiha Gokcen), i saw an Air India Cargo A310 freighter. It seemed like parked there or ages.. whats the story, does AI fly freighters to SAW or is that one just parked there

AI Cargo Freighters both types the A310F & B732F were retired quite a few yrs ago.



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6086 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11855 times:

China Airlines Cargo have ended MAA service and Mihin Lanka are suspending DEL from mid April.

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6086 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 11746 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 14):

This is the case

Quote:
Quoting 777way (Reply 12):
according to a post in Indian aviation thread theres an Air India A310Fapparently in AI livery, stored at SAW, who does it belong to now any idea?

There was also a passenger A310. They are being parted out by MyTechnic.

Here is a photo by someone - you can see the freighter (N430AL) in the background
http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws...6852606711e2a5b622000a9f1254_7.jpg

Here is the passenger one (N428AL) before the chop job
http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?i...seq=0


User currently offlinebrahmin From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11676 times:

Which airline/s will the IPL be flying on?

User currently offlineairdfw From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

What is going on in India? I mean everything is stand still. Is 9W cannot make up its mind to go to bed with EY or Star?

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11644 times:

Quoting airdfw (Reply 19):
Is 9W cannot make up its mind to go to bed with EY or Star?

I think you have to be more patience. It's more likely that they're still in negociations and these things take time. AFAIk ther was a news article a few days ago which implied that they're going to create a special company which will hold a majority of the 9W shares. EY would get a majority share in this new comapny However, they need the approval from the Indian government to set up the new company (and this is rumoured to take a few extra weeks/months). If this is correct you won't hear from a possible EY-9W tie up anytime soon. Finally, I think it's more up to EY to decide if they want to invest in 9W rather than 9W making up its mind.


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11564 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 20):
Finally, I think it's more up to EY to decide if they want to invest in 9W rather than 9W making up its mind.

Agree partially - it's also up to 9W to make the investment worthwhile for both parties (instead of only for themselves). I suspect a large part of the current hold up is to do with 9W "wanting the money for free".



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User currently offlinebrahmin From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11545 times:

PP cannot do anything for 9W now and EY is not an Indian airline. 9W will have to to play 'What the Market values them as.'

User currently offlineaviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11494 times:

Quoting brahmin (Reply 18):
Which airline/s will the IPL be flying on?

Must be Spicejet (not sure) due to the Kingfisher fiasco and the entry of Sun group. Sun group owns Spicejet and the new IPL team Hyderabad Sunrisers


User currently offlineJOYA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 570 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11364 times:

Quoting brahmin (Reply 18):
Which airline/s will the IPL be flying on?
http://articles.economictimes.indiat...aredevils-official-airline-partner



If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
25 777way : Air China Cargo too have stopped MAA service.
26 HAWK21M : Whats the status on Air Asia India.
27 sturmovik : I heard they're starting to recruit. Btw, strangely enough, a pilot friend (currently unemployed) got a call from Paramount asking if he'd be interes
28 Karan69 : They won a hefty lawsuit which awarded them around 1400 crore INR against GECAS UK, so they maybe looking at re starting Karan
29 gr8circle : Is that what the new airline is going to be called? Or will there be some other name? Also, anyone have details on when they are starting ops, what f
30 sankaps : Do you have a source or link for that?
31 CaliAtenza : Heard that TK wont be flying to other indian cities due to no India based airlines showing interest in launching flights to IST, anyone else know more
32 brahmin : TK basically caters to Indians traveling on to N America. Indian carriers would have a tough time filling planes for people visiting Turkey or Turks v
33 himmat01 : It will be called Air Asia India and will be based in MAA. The plan is to fly to tier II cities and no flights to either BOM or DEL.
34 BLRAviation : I am really surprised as to why one of the most happening threads on A.net just a few months ago is now so sparse? Any ideas why? how to revive this t
35 Post contains images VTORD : Air India should ask for compensation for the 787 fiasco again. That will get a lot of people going. Just saying. Seriously though everythings gone qu
36 777way : part 98 I think went on for months before it reached 200 posts.
37 AirIndia : Revision of bilaterals with DXB, 380 approvals should set the ball rolling..... However, with Union election in less than a year, the government will
38 ojas : I personally feel if BJD comes in the coalition, Jay Panda may have a very good chance.
39 HAWK21M : Heard they were thinking of restarting with A320s Just get folks to start posting.....
40 sturmovik : My friend said the HR person mentioned something about ATRs. Secondhand info, yes, but interesting I thought.
41 Post contains links Karan69 : http://www.business-standard.com/art...-lawsuit-money-112122400122_1.html Karan
42 sankaps : Thanks. Seems a very high number (Rs 1,650 cr) for a lease dispute over a defective engine. I am skeptical of theaccuracy of this report.
43 Cricket : MoCA will likely go to a non-Congress partner which is not called the NCP My sympathies lie with them, but let them win first. AirAsia's and Tony's T
44 Post contains links art : Mr. Ajit Singh, Civil Aviation Minister: "We also have a national civil aircraft development program for 100-seat medium transport aircraft. Some of t
45 Cricket : Someone remind them just how frikkin' long HAL (the lead contractor) has spent on developing the Light Combat Aircraft. Instead of doing these projec
46 HAWK21M : Why no cargo operators lining up as yet post FDI?.
47 sankaps : Unfortunately that is not the case. A grinning VJM was in full view awarding Chris Gayle a giant Rs 1 lakh Man of the Match check last week after one
48 brahmin : How much traffic does the IPL generate for the Indian carriers? With ten teams there is a minimum of eighty away games and more. I am not too familiar
49 777way : Hong Kong airlines Cargo have also ended MAA and DEL too.
50 Post contains images comorin : Even the Non-Av thread has slowed down considerably - once you had to scroll all the way down before hitting yesterday's posts; not so anymore. Also,
51 HAWK21M : Not much I would think...... Any details on Air Asia India launch date scheduled......heard they wont touch VABB.
52 BigTom : Heard that Air Asia India won't touch BOM or DEL. Will they be able to sell through tickets to SE Asia through Chennai from Indian Tier 2 and 3 cities
53 AirIndia : As long as its not their own metal, they should be. Wasnt Modiluft in a similar arrangement with Lufthansa in the 90s?
54 Cricket : They ought to manage well enough, leaving BOM and DEL to Indigo and SpiceJet are they? Could be a smart move, but then again these two cities do acco
55 himmat01 : For a single traveler, saving of 2-3 thousand may not matter but for a middle class family of 4, that adds up to 10-12 thousand. This difference migh
56 BigTom : Air Asia certainly do have some good deals to SE Asia from India, how do they compare with fares offered by the competition on these routes?
57 JOYA380B747 : A middle class Indian family almost always looks for cheaper alternatives. And why wouldn't they. The Indian Govt has never us reason enough with les
58 Cricket : True, but I believe you guys are making one mistake, many people in the professional classes do value time as well. Now if I had to get to BKKKUL or
59 Post contains links BigTom : Looks as if the Jet-Etihad deal is done pending approvals ... Etihad to get 32% of Jet
60 Post contains links and images lightsaber : Is this now fact? (Note, I'm asking): Brushing aside the opposition from state owned carrier Air India, other domestic carriers and private airports,
61 bizmark03 : Everyone's busy watching IPL On a serious note, Is the increase seat entitlements between Abu-Dhabi and India already done? Since the Civil Aviation
62 Post contains links 15a : http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=95006 This is the official GOI statement on the India - AUH bilateral - 36670 additional seats taking th
63 bizmark03 : Too bad! I wonder how GMR and GVK feel after they've pumped so much money into Delhi and Bombay International Airports, the Govt. of India is making
64 sankaps : Good question, though at the end of theday 50k seats isa bout 2.5M seats per year, whch at 75% LF is about 2M pax per year. India has about 20-25M in
65 rahulrahul : Has anyone been to the new MAA terminals? I went before the they opened, but people have been saying that it is great. I will be going this summer, so
66 Nimish : They need to realize they're not monopolies - and they should be encouraging increase air traffic through lower tariffs and promotions. Ancillary rev
67 Post contains images comorin : Don't forget to visit the bogs there- I hear they are ultramodern and spotlessly clean!
68 gr8circle : Question about AI.....I noticed that most of the 787 flights are scheduled from DEL (once they re-start).....is there anything at all to and from BOM?
69 brahmin : All the 787 crew should be based there, but, the crew will travel to DEL and back to BOM as crew or passenger, stay in a hotel and then operate their
70 freqflyer : I was there (domestic) yesterday. Far better than the old dump. But looks like every other new AAI terminal. Some commercial shops are still coming u
71 gr8circle : For last several decades AI has been BOM based, so anyone wanting to be an AI crew member had to move to BOM from any other part of India......now th
72 bizmark03 : AFAIK AI were planning on shifting base from Bombay to Delhi, there was also some talk of leasing out their HQ at the Air India building at Nariman P
73 Post contains links Cricket : This is a FUD story by the Times of India today http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...-services/articleshow/19793961.cms Personally, I don't mind pay
74 777way : PIA have upped KHI-DEL to A310 from 737 but frequency remains once weekly. Any idea which PIA aircraft visited Chandigarh few days back was it ATR or
75 CaliAtenza : I dont see why Jet cant make a go of it; they have the fleet.
76 HAWK21M : Whats the launch date for Air asia india.
77 sturmovik : This is an issue I have with all of the new terminals coming up. They're all big bloody blocks of steel, glass and marble, freely interchangeable wit
78 Post contains images sankaps : At the new CCU terminal, they have the writings of Tagore inscribed on the ceilings... a nice local touch.
79 sturmovik : I was not aware of that, that is indeed a nice touch. I wish BLR and HYD had more stuff like this.
80 JOYA380B747 : Are the ground services at the new CCU terminal really that messed up like the media is saying?
81 Post contains images sankaps : Yes, it is quite messed up. If you look beyond the "showcase" areas, the airport is filthy. Processes still slow. Needless bottlenecks (for example at
82 BLRAviation : AI and 9W are supposed to be "full service" carriers. The global norm for check-in luggage on full service carriers is 1 bag of up to 23 kgs. As an L
83 777way : When did AI resume Bahrain?
84 ojas : 7-8 months ago. DEL - BAH - AUH - DEL routing
85 Post contains links sankaps : Air Asia India announces new CEO: 32-year old former model Mittu Chandilya. An interesting choice for sure! http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...-in
86 airdfw : ARE AI 787 are flying now?
87 Karan69 : Yes the domestic runs have commenced Karan
88 Post contains links and images Cricket : Awakening this thread from the depths of despair (OK, so I was in Europe for a few days ) I found this story interesting... Subramanian Swamy has slam
89 VTORD : So Swamy thinks the 9W-EY deal is "fraught with massive security risk"? Hmm..... I wonder what he thinks of EK operating more flights out of India tha
90 brahmin : Well, now we see that the GOI does not always support AI.
91 comorin : Swamy Subramaniam, God bless his patriotic soul, is swinging at windmills again. I can't blame him - a lone honest person seeing his country being ea
92 Cricket : But some of what he does is a bit whacky, but if it wasn't for people like him, a lot worse would happen...
93 airdfw : On Science channel here in US, they were showing the building of Mumbai International and I guess it is a new terminal. When the this terminal will be
94 Post contains links Cricket : Not a very clear story, but it appears that Indigo has gotten permission to take delivery of 28 more aircraft in the 2013-14 timeframe. I guess this a
95 Post contains links Ilove747 : Have been a follower of this thread for long and not an active contributor. Just came accros this plans for the COK by CIAL the airprort operator. The
96 lightsaber : What part of the deal is fraud? Seriously. EY is saving 9W and their cost was air traffic rights to India. If 9W had failed right after IT, that woul
97 Post contains links BLRAviation : Sorry the Daily Pioneer link doesn't work. The "fraud" part is the quid-pro-quo offered to EY on increasing seat bi-laterals. I think this Op-Ed piec
98 Post contains images comorin : - Actually, no shortage of other candidates to set back India's growth for decades!
99 VTORD : Fraud also in the way GoI committed to pump 30,000 crores of tax payers' money in to AI but ended up handing a deal to 9W that would cripple AI. So w
100 Post contains links and images BLRAviation : You need to read my blog to understand the reasons for that. The 30,000 is not for AI. AI is merely the conduit for the flow to the leeches who have
101 Post contains images lightsaber : That is wise business negotiation on the part of GoI. Since that benefits all 9W stockholders and puts enough money into Jet to make them at least sh
102 Post contains images comorin : A little off-topic, but may I also recommend "The Theory of Moral Sentiments" by Adam Smith.
103 BLRAviation : Cannot disagree with you more. Bilateral air services capacity is a national asset not one to be frittered away for the benefit of just the sharehold
104 comorin : Remarkable comment, indeed. While China is now the #1 manufacturer in the world at $2.9T, the US is #2 at $2.4T. Having off-shored a lot of junk manu
105 sankaps : Not to mention the quality and quantity of intellectual property and innovation that is still manufactured in the US, which is still by far second to
106 Post contains links lightsaber : That is where India needs to change. It isn't an asset as much as a tool to motivate other bilateral deals. But the Etihad and Jet alliance is in Ind
107 DTW2HYD : Are you a registered Republican? It is impossible to counter your statements (even with facts) without looking unpatriotic.
108 sankaps : I have read your comment several times, but still struggling to comprehend what you are trying to communicate. Are you saying the US is not the hub o
109 sankaps : That is true, but has that ship sailed now? Further, even if India were to build a huge, efficient, modern hub without process bottlenecks, could an
110 Post contains images lightsaber : And manufacturing is growing quickly in the USA thanks to: 1. Robotics ( a field my brother switched to) 2. China and Thailand tipping the $4/hour wa
111 LJ : However, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia already have ailrines which connect Europe (and in some cases expanding). Moreover, the GA is alre
112 DTW2HYD : I am saying exactly that, A $600 Billion Apple spends only few million on R&D. HP which has "invent" in its name last invented decade back. We ar
113 YTZ : No. The cost advantage of the Gulf Three will never be strong enough to overcome the benefits of o/d to the huge markets in India. But India does nee
114 HAWK21M : With the 9W-Etihad deal, looks like major maintenance will move to Gamco.....so 9w will be another line mx Airline. This will lead to a reduction of 5
115 Post contains images comorin : Bad guesswork. Apple spent $ 3.4B in R&D in 2012.
116 DTW2HYD : FYI. Most of it is in Israel. Not in USA.
117 comorin : Appreciate any links on the subject.
118 Post contains images sankaps : Wow. Just wow! (Note again I am referring to IP, design, and innovation, which are higher order attributes than manufacturing and programming which c
119 Post contains images comorin : Thank you for taking over the rest of the rebuttals! I started to, but my mind just got boggled... Hyper-efficient Capital Markets that understand ri
120 lightsaber : There is still time. A high O&D hub will always 'eat the lunch' of a low O&D hub due to passengers inherent desire to avoid extra connections
121 sankaps : Lightsaber, no doubt non-stops are preferred over connections. But are you talking of hub O&D only, or country O&D? A large chunk of India O&
122 comorin : And local politics. GoI policies have to run the gauntlet of State Govt fiefdoms with their colorful armies of 'rowdies' and what not. And then there
123 Post contains links blr380 : Speaking of GoI hurdles, 9W - EY deal is currently on hold: http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...8709/jet-etihad-deal-put-hold.html I guess these h
124 Post contains links lightsaber : Agreed. But if the Indian cities (e.g, MAA) could act as a hub adding in connecting traffic to boost revenue, they would be quite competitive. For se
125 blrsea : I don't understand the hand-wringing over it. Regulatory approval is a must in all countries when big mergers/takeovers take place, even in the US. A
126 DTW2HYD : A 24% stakeholder should not act like they own 51%. I guess EY overplayed their hand in management changes even before the deal is closed or India st
127 VTORD : EY paid something like a 32% premium on the list price for the stake so I would not blame them for acting like they have 51% really.....I am not able
128 Post contains links DTW2HYD : Apple spends money to open a new R&D center to hire Texas Instruments' employee in Israel for their own processor design. They had contract with
129 sankaps : So this factoid is enough for you to say Apple (and by extension the US) is no longer an innovator and to personally attack those who beg to differ,
130 Post contains images HAWK21M : AI B787 Flying Display at the Paris Airshow .....
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