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New Doha Airport (Hamad) To Open April 1 To 10 AL  
User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15412 times:

The New Doha Airport named Hamad International Airport is scheduled to open April 1 (soft opening) to 10 airlines. They are:

1. Air Arabia
2. Fly Dubai
3. Ras Al Khaimah Airways
4. PIA
5. Biman Bangladesh
6. Nepal Airlines
7. Syrian Air
8. Air India Express
9. Yemenia
10. Iran Air

Approximately 32 flights a day will depart from the airport with 220 weekly flights. Only Concourse B (the Eastern wing) will open and the Eastern Runway will be fully operation. There will NOT be any proper duty free nor eateries as I came last week from the airport and nothing has been completed yet.

There are 10 gates in Concourse B (all with jet bridges). 2 of them are designed for the A380.

This is exciting as both airports will be operational until the end of the year when Qatar Airways transfers operations to Hamad Airport.

I created another thread last month, but its closed. So, time for a new one. http://www.gulf-times.com/qatar/178/...rlines-moving-to-new-hamad-airport


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 15245 times:

why the low class carrier moving there first?

User currently offlinegr09 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2008, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 15114 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 1):
why the low class carrier moving there first?

I wouldn't call them low class carriers. My assumption QR negotiated with some airlines that will test the new airport capabilities and tune possible problems before the rest moves across the highway.

That brings up a question - how is QR going to move their planes? Just by landing the inbound planes at NDIA or are they going to move some planes on the ground? I haven't been to Qatar for over a year so I have no idea if they are preparing some connection. Those who travel on the new airport road - any idea?



[Edited 2013-03-17 17:40:05]

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 15064 times:

Why not SV, KU, GF, RJ, ME, MS in there if not EK, EY, and WY?

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 15056 times:

Probably wont complain much. They can be good guinea pigs to work out the kinks.


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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12905 posts, RR: 100
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 14776 times:
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My first rough guess is this is 1mill pax/year. Nor a trivial number, but not huge either.

But what about eateries? Passengers will survive without duty free, but there needs to be some food available. At least coffee and some fast food?

Since all the initial airlines are LCCs, I imagine their landing fees were given a cut.

Now what I question is: Is this enough passengers and flights to pull some load off the old DOH? Since we're looking at only a 6% to 8% of the passengers in an airport growing faster than that.    The old airport will still operate far above design capacity. Heck, the new airport will 'fill up' quickly. I expect to see the follow on expansion happen fairly quickly.

Quoting 777way (Reply 1):

why the low class carrier moving there first?

No lounge access. Any carrier who provides lounges for their passengers will have to wait until they are completed.

Quoting 777way (Reply 3):

Why not SV, KU, GF, RJ, ME, MS in there if not EK, EY, and WY?

Many of those airlines provide lounge access. Per wikipedia, June is implied (but not actually stated) when the first lounges will be ready.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14575 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 1):
why the low class carrier moving there first?
Quoting gr09 (Reply 2):
I wouldn't call them low class carriers. My assumption QR negotiated with some airlines that will test the new airport capabilities and tune possible problems before the rest moves across the highway.

Well, these carriers won't have lounge access and duty free accesses.

Quoting 777way (Reply 3):
Why not SV, KU, GF, RJ, ME, MS in there if not EK, EY, and WY?

They require lounge access.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
They can be good guinea pigs to work out the kinks.

Indeed.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 5):
My first rough guess is this is 1mill pax/year. Nor a trivial number, but not huge either.

Actually, this is the number I got as well.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 5):
But what about eateries? Passengers will survive without duty free, but there needs to be some food available. At least coffee and some fast food?

When I went, there was NOTHING. However, I wouldn't rule out Costa Coffee since it is owned by Qatar Airways in Qatar. and perhaps a small confectionary store.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 5):
Now what I question is: Is this enough passengers and flights to pull some load off the old DOH? Since we're looking at only a 6% to 8% of the passengers in an airport growing faster than that. The old airport will still operate far above design capacity. Heck, the new airport will 'fill up' quickly. I expect to see the follow on expansion happen fairly quickly.

I have done an analysis, and it turned out to be 7-8 percent from the old airport. Let's not forget Qatar Airways is in for a huge expansion this year with lots of new destinations plus cargo expansion.



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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2401 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 14374 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
The New Doha Airport named Hamad International Airport is scheduled to open April 1

Will the new airport linked to the old airport by shuttle? How long will it take?

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 6):
They require lounge access.

But also Iran Air and PIA are offering Lounge access to their Homa-Class/Business Plus passengers, but not sure about Yemenia...


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14198 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 7):

Will the new airport linked to the old airport by shuttle? How long will it take?

Yes, they will link the two airports by shuttle. If they use the main roads, it will take 10-15 minutes depending on the traffic.

Quoting debonair (Reply 7):

But also Iran Air and PIA are offering Lounge access to their Homa-Class/Business Plus passengers, but not sure about Yemenia...

Iran Air flies a very small plane to secondary cities, and not Tehran. So, its probably some sort of LCC or something. They must've offered a free usuage of the facility though for them to be used.



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User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 14084 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 1):
why the low class carrier moving there first?

I guess they've learnt from other big airport openings....there will be problems, so might as well send the "lesser" carriers to find out what those problems are. When the new PEK T3 opened, Sichuan Airline (and maybe Shandong Airlines) were the first users, not the much bigger and important Air China.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 6):
They require lounge access.

Whilst they should be able to provide lounge access, it's not a limiting factor. There are plenty of airports around the world that cater for C class pax that have no lounge. E.g. Salzburg and Innsbruck in Austria. BA customers in both of those get given a EUR 10 voucher at check in. I think OS/LH give their pax EUR 5.



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User currently offlineyowza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13974 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 9):
I guess they've learnt from other big airport openings....there will be problems, so might as well send the "lesser" carriers to find out what those problems are. When the new PEK T3 opened, Sichuan Airline (and maybe Shandong Airlines) were the first users, not the much bigger and important Air China.
Quoting 777way (Reply 1):
why the low class carrier moving there first?

This is nothing to do with the carriers being low class or lesser in any way. In short, the carriers that have agreed to move are those that have the highest amount of pax originating or destined for Doha as a percentage. Simple as that. You will have noticed that none of these carriers are in an alliance thereby further reducing likelihood of onward travel through Doha. The LCC presence reinforces this.

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User currently offlineLGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13850 times:

Sorry have done a search but not found anything. What will be the three letter IATA designation for the new airport? Will it revert to DOH when QR move in?


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13831 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):

1. Air Arabia
2. Fly Dubai
3. Ras Al Khaimah Airways
8. Air India Express


[quote=lightsaber,reply=5]
Since all the initial airlines are LCCs, I imagine their landing fees were given a cut.

Only these are LCC.


User currently offlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1008 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13706 times:

As of now, the two airports appear completely disconnected from each other.

Would it make sense to build a connecting taxiway-- either temporary, to help ferrying planes and equipment during the eventual move; or even permanent, in which case the current airport's runway could serve as a third runway in the future.

Also, of the ten airlines listed above (and I agree with the above poster- with the exception of a few, most are certainly not low-cost carriers), I assume that most of the traffic would be O&D. But for persons who are transferring to another flight that uses the old airport, what would the procedure be?


User currently offlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1008 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13703 times:

Also, incidentally, I noticed on google maps that even though the new runways look absolutely complete,
there are no "X" markings that usually accompany non-operational runways.


User currently offline3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13655 times:

The delay at the airport is because the Lounges are not ready. There is a case in court right now between the Doha Airport Authority and the company that was previously called in to set up the lounges. They were later kicked off the job, and a new company was brought in. As a result all the airlines that require lounge access will have to wait while those that do not will start flying there April 1.

Airlines that are not moving there:

QR
EK
EY
GF
UA
KLM
Oman Air
BA
9W
Egypt Air
Kuwait Airways
Saudi Arabian Airlines
Turkish
Royal Jordanian
...and more

Almost all of those with the exception of QR will not have many arriving or departing passengers that are connecting at Doha. It's purely about lounge access.

Quoting AT (Reply 14):

Also, incidentally, I noticed on google maps that even though the new runways look absolutely complete,
there are no "X" markings that usually accompany non-operational runways.

The runways have had X's on them for a long time. However, recently they have started to do test flights into the airports and in the recent past they've used the airport for other purposes (e.g. During the UN climate conference they used it to park the raft of VIP aircraft that flew into DOH), the images you are looking at were probably taken on one of those days. If you take a look at Bing Maps they have X's on them.

It should also be noted that quite shortly the airport will be expanded to the west (towards the old airport) and if you take a look at the Western Runway you can already see the beginnings of taxiways leading out toward that area. If QR reach the size that they have stated publicly then there will be a shortage of parking spots in no more than 2 years.


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13478 times:

Quoting AT (Reply 14):



Also, incidentally, I noticed on google maps that even though the new runways look absolutely complete,
there are no "X" markings that usually accompany non-operational runways.

There are aircraft that land there every day for testing purposes. Last week I went into an A300 cargo in the new airport.

Quoting AT (Reply 13):
Also, of the ten airlines listed above (and I agree with the above poster- with the exception of a few, most are certainly not low-cost carriers), I assume that most of the traffic would be O&D. But for persons who are transferring to another flight that uses the old airport, what would the procedure be?

There will be shuttle busses between DOH and Hamad.

Quoting 3rdGen (Reply 15):



The delay at the airport is because the Lounges are not ready. There is a case in court right now between the Doha Airport Authority and the company that was previously called in to set up the lounges. They were later kicked off the job, and a new company was brought in. As a result all the airlines that require lounge access will have to wait while those that do not will start flying there April 1.

I truly dont blame the Lounges company. The airport has a lot of other things to complete other than the lounges. But, we'll see the verdict (maybe after some time) but well see.



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User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3451 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13448 times:

By the way, is it an entirely new airport or just an extension of the present DOH with new terminals and runways on the other opposite side ?

User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13354 times:

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 17):
By the way, is it an entirely new airport or just an extension of the present DOH with new terminals and runways on the other opposite side ?

A totally new airport. Its separated from DOH by a 2 kilometer stretch of desert to the East. Half of it is reclaimed from the Arabian Gulf.



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User currently offline3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13297 times:

Whats the deal with the shape of the airport? I've seen a number of other airports (namely Hong Kong) that are built in exactly the same shape. Is it the same company that did both or have companies just decided that this is the most efficient design? There's also one in China that looks the same, can't remember which one though.

There's now a rendering on skyscraper city of the planned expansion to the west of the airport, first time I've seen a drawing: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=304873&page=62

[Edited 2013-03-18 11:33:38]

[Edited 2013-03-18 11:55:40]

User currently offlineMarkam From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 441 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12927 times:

What will happen to the old airport? Will the land be kept for an eventual expansion of the new airport (third runway?), or will it be redeveloped for other purposes?

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12905 posts, RR: 100
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12697 times:
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Does the new-DOH (Hamad) airport operate under the DOH code with *very* offset runways or another 3 letter code?

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 6):
Let's not forget Qatar Airways is in for a huge expansion this year with lots of new destinations plus cargo expansion.

Agreed. What is QR's planned expansion rate? I expect the old DOH to be bursting at the seems at the end.

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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12593 times:

Quoting 3rdGen (Reply 19):

Noticed this too, conpiracy theorists might have some funny takes on this related to symbolism and other bizzarre stuff.


User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3451 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12526 times:

I think it's better for the travel industry intervenants and travelers to keep IATA code DOH as they did for MUC. As for the architecture, New Doha was constructed by Turkish TAV Construction. Maybe they have chosen that shape for functionality, and with regard to the available piece of land of course. They may also have been urged by any deadline to finish construction and hand the building operative on time !

[Edited 2013-03-18 12:45:48]

User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 579 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12155 times:

For those who haven't seen photos of Hamad, they're available below:

http://blog.racingwinds.com/2013/01/...elcome-to-dohas-brand-new-airport/



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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2587 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12562 times:

What will happen to the old airport once the new one is fully complete? Will it shut down or complement it (at least the runway I think could be perfectly complementary, a bit far-spaced but no worse than the Polderbaan)

Quoting AT (Reply 13):
the current airport's runway could serve as a third runway in the future.

  


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 26, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 12106 times:

Quoting 3rdGen (Reply 19):



Whats the deal with the shape of the airport? I've seen a number of other airports (namely Hong Kong) that are built in exactly the same shape. Is it the same company that did both or have companies just decided that this is the most efficient design? There's also one in China that looks the same, can't remember which one though.

It was designed by HOK architects who are also the designers for HKG. The shape is the most effient in airport design-- much better than some airports like KUL, where you have two terminals connected by an external train, or Dubai (one long piece of building).

Quoting 3rdGen (Reply 19):
There's now a rendering on skyscraper city of the planned expansion to the west of the airport, first time I've seen a drawing: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...ge=62

Welcome to SSC.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 21):
What is QR's planned expansion rate? I expect the old DOH to be bursting at the seems at the end.

They plan to add like 10-12 places this year (including Chicago). Im not sure though about the rate as the 787 pretty much put a damper on things.



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User currently offlinekevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11931 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Thread starter):
The New Doha Airport named Hamad International Airport is scheduled to open April 1 (soft opening) to 10 airlines. They are:

1. Air Arabia
2. Fly Dubai
3. Ras Al Khaimah Airways
4. PIA
5. Biman Bangladesh
6. Nepal Airlines
7. Syrian Air
8. Air India Express
9. Yemenia
10. Iran Air

Isn't QR moving all its cargo ops to the new airport on April 1st as well?


User currently offlinekevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11923 times:

And what about Amiri? AFAIK their terminal is complete. Will they move their ops to the new airport ASAP as well. I'm sure their movements are not that frequent but will still relieve the current airport .

User currently offlineAABB777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11626 times:
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From what I have heard both the current Doha airport and the new (Hamad) Doha airport will operate under the same DOH IATA code. The ATC tower at the current airport will direct traffic for both airports.

User currently offline3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 11424 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 26):
What will happen to the old airport once the new one is fully complete? Will it shut down or complement it (at least the runway I think could be perfectly complementary, a bit far-spaced but no worse than the Polderbaan)

No the old airport will remain open for some time until the expansion at Hamad is complete. There isn't space at Hamad for a number of users at DOH such as Gulf Helicopters and the College. Eventually it will be demolished and there is a plan to build a mix of residential and commercial building in the area, the plans:

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5344/4cb4384eebe33730811310.jpg


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 31, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11300 times:

Quoting kevin (Reply 27):

Isn't QR moving all its cargo ops to the new airport on April 1st as well?

Cargo ops will move April 15 or so according to AAB.

Quoting kevin (Reply 28):
And what about Amiri? AFAIK their terminal is complete. Will they move their ops to the new airport ASAP as well. I'm sure their movements are not that frequent but will still relieve the current airport .

There is a big (and useless) Arab summit coming up at the end of the month--so I assume that they might try to open the Amiri terminal by then.

Quoting AABB777 (Reply 29):
From what I have heard both the current Doha airport and the new (Hamad) Doha airport will operate under the same DOH IATA code. The ATC tower at the current airport will direct traffic for both airports.

Can the ATC handle traffic from that far away? (5 km away?)



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 32, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 11018 times:

Shaheen are not moving either also same class as the 10 who are shifting there.

User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 33, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 10886 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 32):
Shaheen are not moving either also same class as the 10 who are shifting there.

Strange considering they are only flying 1 time per week to Peshawar. I always assumed they were LCC's.



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User currently offlineAirMale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 34, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10842 times:

This is also a nice link, with lots of statistics, photos of Hamad International Airport:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/121...ccess_key=key-1wqqk8e6mpw0ctcrq0hy



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 35, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 10736 times:

they dont have J anymore, but not sure if a true LCC.

User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 36, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10524 times:

Hamad airport’s cargo terminal to open in April

Quote:
Tripling the existing capacity, the new $1bn world-scale cargo terminal at the Hamad International Airport will be officially open on April 8, Qatar Airways Group CEO Akbar al-Baker said yesterday.

The new complex, covering an area of 290,000 sq m, will handle 1.4mn tonnes of freight a year, al-Baker said on the sidelines of the seventh IATA World Cargo Symposium at the Sheraton.

The new cargo complex is made up of seven facilities, including some 42 airside loading docks, 32 landside loading docks, an air-conditioned warehouse, an automated storage system, a dedicated live animal centre and a cargo agents’ facility.

Of the 121-strong Qatar Airways fleet there are eight freighters, al-Baker said.

They will use the trucks to move stuff back and forth from DOH to the new DOH. That means it will open a week after passenger flights.



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 37, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10080 times:

http://www.moodiereport.com/document.php?c_id=6&doc_id=34618

Nice article about the opening preparations. I wonder if FlyDubai or Air Arabia will increase their presense in DOH after the opening?



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 38, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9466 times:

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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 39, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8936 times:

The New Airport Will Open in Less Than 15 HOURS!!! By The Way, for logistical reasons, the New Airport will be called Terminal 1 and the current airport will be called Terminal 2.


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User currently offlinemiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 948 posts, RR: 42
Reply 40, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8905 times:
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I hope QR will launch MIA soon since they joined Oneworld. I'm crossing my fingers!!   


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User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8880 times:

hopefully QR will launch LAX this year!!!

User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7090 posts, RR: 57
Reply 42, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8895 times:

cafe and stores available

http://moodiereport.com/document.php?c_id=6&doc_id=34618

Passengers wanting a beverage or snack before they fly will be able to visit the café located in Concourse B at the far end of level 1. Before boarding, they will also be able to visit the express duty free store to browse a wide range of products on offer or pick up any last-minute items. A newsagent will also be available for passengers to purchase magazines, books and newspapers.



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 43, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8755 times:

Well, let's hope it will be a nice airport, since the 'old' DOH airport is a dump, bringing back the so called 5-star airline QR to just 1 or 2 stars. I had unpleasant connections there, rude ground staff on the apron and the transit buses, and these bus rides all around the runway just took too long.


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User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2167 posts, RR: 13
Reply 44, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8534 times:

What happens to Qatar Airways' premium passengers? Today there is this wonderful Premium Terminal where there are never any waits at passport and security control, the lounges are fantastic and passengers are driven to their planes.

Will there be something similar in the new airport? Or will premium pax use the same passport and security lines?


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 45, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8302 times:

Three Hours Left for Opening. Remember its only a soft opening, the majority of the airport is still closed...

Hamad International Airport - ARRIVALS
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1663/arrivalterminalhia1apri.jpg

Hamad International Airport - DEPARTURES
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9976/departuresterminalhia1a.jpg

Source : [URL="http://acepilotkhan.tumblr.com/post/46744867974/hamad-international-airport-prepares-for-soft-opening"]Gazanfarulla Khan[/URL]



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 46, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8183 times:

Sudan airways and Iran Asseman are also not moving to Hamad.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 47, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8102 times:

I've just read on another forum the opening has been postponed again...

Hamad International Airport fails to meet Civil Defense checks, delays opening...

http://dohanews.co/post/46781625965/...irport-fails-to-meet-civil-defense

I understand its the 1st of April but doesn't appear to be a joke...

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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 48, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7963 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 47):



I've just read on another forum the opening has been postponed again...

Hamad International Airport fails to meet Civil Defense checks, delays opening...

http://dohanews.co/post/46781625965/...irport-fails-to-meet-civil-defense

I understand its the 1st of April but doesn't appear to be a joke...

WHAT AN EMBARASSEMENT!!

I think people in Berlin better than God that their airport was not delayed 2 hours before the first flight-- AND THERE WERE PASSENGERS IN THE AIRPORT BY THE WAY!!



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 49, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7849 times:

I opened a separate discussion concerning the delayed opening...

Hamad Int Airport Fails Tests - Delays Opening! (by EK413 Mar 31 2013 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12905 posts, RR: 100
Reply 50, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7730 times:
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Ok, is it possible to cut through the April 1st chatter and find out more?

I personally cannot believe that a massive new airports 'soft launch' would be delayed less than 24 hours prior to opening.

I only found another link that says more of the same:
http://thepeninsulaqatar.com/qatar/2...new-airport-opening-postponed.html


To think, I was sitting down to write an April Fool's thread on the new airport opening (come on! It was scheduled to open on April 1st... just begging for some fun). But someone beat me too it...

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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 51, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7594 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 50):
I personally cannot believe that a massive new airports 'soft launch' would be delayed less than 24 hours prior to opening.

Make THAT less than 1.5 hours before the opening! There were media personnel, passengers waiting at the terminal; there seemed to be utter confusion as to IF the airprot is opening. I went to the airport and found out myself that it has been delayed. WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT!

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 50):
Ok, is it possible to cut through the April 1st chatter and find out more?

Exactly..


Apparently after the Villagio disaster, they seem to have made stricter fire saftey measures. Dont these people know to check the fire saftey more than 5 hours away from the opening?!

Corruption. Overbudget. LACK OF PLANNING! This is not Berlin. There won't be people fired. Just another project in Qatar. Welcome to Doha.



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 52, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7337 times:

Apparently its gone very quiet. Fly Dubai sent me an email saying, Whoops we are going to remain at the old airport. LOL


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User currently offlineYVRtoYYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7147 times:

312033 OBBBYNYX
(A0203/13 NOTAMR A0188/13
Q)OBBB/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/2516N05137E005
A)OTHH B)1303312030 C)1305312359 EST
E)OPENNING OF HAMAD INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WILL BE DELAYED
UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE)


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Reply 54, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7064 times:
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I'm still in amazement on how:
1. How can you schedule an airport opening, even a soft opening, on 4/1 ?
2. Who holds a safety review immediately before an airport opening?

They should have been down to action items and closeouts! Minor stuff too... e.g., have mechanics fix door #44 lock or: Lock out lights in store X until electrical panel Y upgraded.

Who was doing the action item burn down?

Seriously, the airport should have been dry tested 30 days ago and all the rush to ensure enough charging stations for cell phones, power at the right shops, and if the coffee shop has enough cups!   

What happened to the trials?
http://www.airportsinternational.com...t-the-new-doha-hamad-airport/12613

Did they perform trials with a thousand people without meeting safety (e.g., fire) codes? Maybe I'm just used to US regulations, but I couldn't bring non-construction workers into a building (hangar) until I received a little piece of paper from the fire chief.

They would have known two weeks ago if they met safety codes...

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 51):
Corruption. Overbudget. LACK OF PLANNING! This is not Berlin.

But apparently the two airports are in competition to delay openings as much as possible to look like fools...

Quoting YVRtoYYZ (Reply 53):
E)OPENNING OF HAMAD INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WILL BE DELAYED
UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE)

My confidence is inspired.


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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 55, posted (1 year 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 6736 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 54):
1. How can you schedule an airport opening, even a soft opening, on 4/1 ?

This is exactly what I thought. In a normal country some people would get fired for this. In Qatar, its a pat on the back and giving them a 1000th chance to make it good.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 54):
2. Who holds a safety review immediately before an airport opening?

I understand after the Villagio disaster, there has been a change in the method of obtaining a fire saftey permit--which is much stricter than before. IKEA, which was the last "big thing" to debut in Qatar last month, was delayed for 3 months because of the same reason--even though it was already compelte and stocked. But, come on, this is a 15$ b project and the face of Qatar to the world! WHY ON EARTH DIDNT THEY THINK OF THAT BEFORE. Honestly I beleive there is something more than the permit. Its a conspiracy! (Maybe not Hollywood style, but surely there is something more going on)

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 54):
They should have been down to action items and closeouts! Minor stuff too... e.g., have mechanics fix door #44 lock or: Lock out lights in store X until electrical panel Y upgraded.

When I was part of the trials, I noticed that for the most parts it was going to be a rush to get things completed and shiny for the opening. Guess I was right.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 54):
ensure enough charging stations for cell phones, power at the right shops

Not enough.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 54):
Did they perform trials with a thousand people without meeting safety (e.g., fire) codes? Maybe I'm just used to US regulations, but I couldn't bring non-construction workers into a building (hangar) until I received a little piece of paper from the fire chief.

That is what I wanted to find out.



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 56, posted (1 year 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

تأجيل افتتاح المطار «6» أشهر

علمت الوطن أنه تم نقل موظفي مطار حمد الدولي إلى مطار الدوحة بعد إرجاء انطلاق عمليات بدء التشغيل والتي كان من المفترض أن تبدأ فجر أمس الأول.

وبحسب المصدر فإن الموظفين سيبقون في مطار الدوحة الدولي لمدة تتراوح ما بين 4 إلى 6 أشهر إلى الانتهاء من استيفاء كافة شروط الإدارة العامة للدفاع المدني.

وتعد هذه هي المرة الرابعة التي يتم فيها تأجيل افتتاح مطار حمد الدولي بالرغم من البيانات الصحفية التي صدرت مؤخرا عن هيئة الطيران المدني والتي أعلنت فيها انتهاء التجارب التشغيلية بنجاح وجاهزية مطار حمد الدولي لاستقبال شركات طيران الاقتصادي، والتي كان من المفترض أن تبدأ العمل مطلع إبريل الحالي، بالإضافة إلى تضارب الأرقام حول عدد شركات الطيران التي ستبدأ بالعمل فور بدء عمليات مطار حمد حيث كانت في البداية 12 شركة ثم تحولت إلى 11 وفي نهاية المطاف بلغت 10 شركات طيران.

واستغرب العديد من المواطنين والمراقبين من تأخر لجنة تسيير مشروع المطار في استيفاء شروط الدفاع المدني.

واعتبروا ذلك تخبطا إداريا كان بالإمكان تجاوزه لو تم التخطيط بشكل مبكر وليس في ليلة افتتاح المطار الجديد

Translation: Blah blah blah: Expected delay of 4-6 months is expected!

Source: http://www.al-watan.com/viewnews.asp...-4A6D-B65B-9A8B032DF28C&d=20130402                       



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User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1368 posts, RR: 4
Reply 57, posted (1 year 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 6454 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 56):
Translation: Blah blah blah: Expected delay of 4-6 months is expected!

This was just what Boeing needed to get AAB off of their backs over the 787 problem. He can't be a very happy man right now..  


User currently offlineflylonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 6277 times:

What happened to all the passangers that were scheduled to depart? They must have been absolutely furious. I know I would be!
What a shocking way to handle such a major project  



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 59, posted (1 year 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 6074 times:

The good news (silver lining) is that hopefully the new opening date will be far enough to kind of "merge" with the main planned opening.


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User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2167 posts, RR: 13
Reply 60, posted (1 year 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 6055 times:

My nerves were wrecked. I was CERTAIN that the airport was not going to open as planned yesterday and I had some pretty substantial bet outstanding. I had to wait until a couple of hours before the opening to figure out that I had won the bet.

User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 61, posted (1 year 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 5895 times:

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 57):
This was just what Boeing needed to get AAB off of their backs over the 787 problem. He can't be a very happy man right now..

I think this is identical to the Boeing 787 problems. What a mess.

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 58):
What happened to all the passangers that were scheduled to depart? They must have been absolutely furious. I know I would be!
What a shocking way to handle such a major project

Well, there was only one flight that was scheduled to depart, and thanksfully there weren't a lot of passengers in the terminal. The old airport is only 7 minutes away by car and they can easily go there.

Quoting Nimish (Reply 59):
The good news (silver lining) is that hopefully the new opening date will be far enough to kind of "merge" with the main planned opening.

We do not know that as of yet. Hopefully, they will do something in the next couple of weeks.

Quoting mozart (Reply 60):
My nerves were wrecked. I was CERTAIN that the airport was not going to open as planned yesterday and I had some pretty substantial bet outstanding. I had to wait until a couple of hours before the opening to figure out that I had won the bet.

Maybe you gave it the "evil eye" loool



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User currently offlineflylonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5599 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 61):
Well, there was only one flight that was scheduled to depart, and thanksfully there weren't a lot of passengers in the terminal. The old airport is only 7 minutes away by car and they can easily go there.

Well at least there werent too many inconvenienced by the mishandling.

If you were someone who does not fly very often this must have been extremely confusing.
Oh im sorry this airport isnt open, we are going to take you to another airport to board your flight.   

Hopefully next time will run smoothly   



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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2401 posts, RR: 4
Reply 63, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5102 times:

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 56):
Translation: Blah blah blah: Expected delay of 4-6 months is expected!

Any new opening day announced?


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1808 posts, RR: 6
Reply 64, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5040 times:

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 62):
Hopefully next time will run smoothly

Hopefully!

Quoting debonair (Reply 63):
Any new opening day announced?

Still no new date. But, I expect June when they finish at least the Oryx Lounge for all airlines that are not QR.



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Reply 65, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4786 times:
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Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 64):
I expect June

Based on?

And will airlines be as willing to switch? I would schedule my airline's switch a week or more after the first airline *at a minimum.* Who will go first for round 2?

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