Gonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1690 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12250 times:
Hello All... After watching this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74zgfYYvUds ) of the Concorde landing in Boston ( probably a weather diversion from JFK ), I started to travel in time, to the days when I was a child and the Concorde landed in Montevideo, for an official visit of F. Miterrand ( France's President at the time ). It was in 1987 ( can't remember the exact date....I was sooooo excited with the Concorde landing in MVD !! ) . With this in mind, I would like to know the other destinations visited just one or two times for this magnificent plane. If you can remember when ( and even why ) the Concorde landed there, much better !!
Mortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3237 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12255 times:
The Concorde visited both Oslo and Stavanger in Norway. It visited Stavanger atleast twice with cruiseshippassangers. One year there were 3 Concorde's visiting Sola Airport Stavanger in one day.
LondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12240 times:
Throughout its life, Concorde operated many charter services.
But some of the most unusual examples are in the days when BA used Concorde on domestic routes to promote its Super Shuttle Services. Here's an historical picture of three BA Concordes at GLA way back in 1983.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2249 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12114 times:
This website documents many Concorde destinations on charter. I know for a fact that there are some cities in the US missing. I toured the Concorde in ICT when it visited for a charter flight.
WOW !!!! I was totally WRONG with my previous "knowledge" about this !!! The number of places where the Concorde actually landed is probably 10 times higher than what I had in mind !!!!
n901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 389 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 11353 times:
Here's a Pic from the Concorde in HNL. The Air France Flight would arrive once a year, on the round the world charter. I was lucky to help turn it in HNL in 1988.
Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 15): BA operated CPT-JNB circa 2000 when the then new BMW 3 Series was launched - all the executives of the South African suppliers were sent on a joyride.
It was there doing these joy rides for about 7 days , but I think you will find it was during March 1992
Wingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 217 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (3 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10775 times:
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 5):
This website documents many Concorde destinations on charter. I know for a fact that there are some cities in the US missing. I toured the Concorde in ICT when it visited for a charter flight.
Yes, "The Americas" list is incomplete from mid-letter "R" on. I toured the AF SSC when it was in Sacramento on a grand tour. Surprised at how small it was inside. I forget where it arrived from, but it flew from SMF to JFK, having to move it's departure time up at least an hour, as the forecast temperature for the original schedule would have been too hot for it to lift off. As it was, it used every inch of the then-new 16L runway. Since SMF wasn't/isn't an AF station, catering was trucked up from SFO.
Worked for WestAir, Apollo Airways, Desert Pacific, Western, AirCal and American Airlines
26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 688 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10606 times:
Fun thread. I love anything Concorde.
The SXM photo looks like a fake to me. Not only because I have never seen this pic or any other like it (have you?) but the people are clearly not wearing 1989 era swim suits. I suppose the caption could be wrong.
To add to the list...I have seen Concorde in PHKO and KOAK during its round-the-world charters.
Is Anet member MadamConcorde still around? She would know a lot more.
I do not recall those hangars behind in MVD - those are way bigger (747 type hangar) than anything on the premises there. Considering that picture is from 1987 and the one I am showing here is from the past 5-8 years, I am confused.
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BenSandilands From Australia, joined Mar 2013, 64 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9832 times:
Some of these Concorde charters visited Australia.
One of the first if not the first, following the demo flights of the mid '70s, was in 1984 to coincide with an exchange of passengers to or from the QE2. The day it arrived also coincided with a Papal visit to Sydney, and the combination of thousands of the faithful, thousands of aviation tragics, and anyone unfortunate enough to just be coming or going through Sydney Airport that day made for bedlam.
Australia had two designated over land routes for Concorde flights. One, which I believe was only used once for a demo flight from Melbourne to Singapore, tracked out of Tullamarine and out to sea and supersonic to go around Kangaroo Island which is somewhat south of Adelaide, and then fly more or less diagonally SE to NW across the country. The route was right at the edge of Concorde's range even with a reduced payload but according to the Australian DCA as it then was, there were only nine people known to actually live under the boom path.
The other route was from Denpasar to Sydney. Concorde was permitted to fly supersonic until it reached western NSW when it was to drop into subsonic descent and approach to the airport. However on the first and last time that route was used the crew of the AF charter remained in supersonic flight for a few minutes longer than allowed and passed directly over a small town called Cowra. There was superficial damage to some structures, with broken windows and collapsed outbuildings, and a horse that bolted in panic in an enclosure and tried to jump a fence broke a leg and had to be shot.
The incident caused the denial of the route to future charters.
AF was also briefly banned from operating Concorde out of Sydney when the same aircraft disobeyed tower instructions on departure from Sydney which required take off to the south over Botany Bay. It took off to the north, passing over the inner western suburbs including on that memorable afternoon my home and as Sydney Airport later said, caused the switch board to jam with calls of protest.
One of the last visits by Concorde was that of a BA charter which included a Christchurch-Sydney sector. I was surfing Voodoo near Boat Harbour, a minor inlet which has a reef break way to the NE of Wanda Beach near Cronulla. I watched Concorde make a turn to line up for the approach toward Botany Bay and 'something' didn't look right. As the jet, nose visor lowered soared almost overhead I could see that there was a gap in the vertical rudder, a delamination event that was was heard and felt inside the cabin after departure from Christchurch but the crew elected to continue the sector.
There was a subsequent report from the UK that BA had taken action against the captain for carrying on and assuming that the abnormal indications heard and felt on the jet were not a safety of flight issue. Not sure if he was fired, demoted or retrained.
To the best of my recollection, the Cowra and Sydney takeoff incident occurred late in the 80s but the BA delamination incident was probably in the early 90s.
Was that flight subsonic ?? I'm asking because, IIRC, the sonic boom was the main factor for the Concorde being banned in almost every potential route and as a consequence they were allowed to fly supersonic only over the oceans ....
Quoting 26point2 (Reply 18): Is Anet member MadamConcorde still around?
Take a look at her user profile... I guess she will be back, but I don't know when.
Quoting dcajet (Reply 20):
Are you sure that picture is in MVD?
I do not recall those hangars behind in MVD - those are way bigger (747 type hangar) than anything on the premises there. Considering that picture is from 1987 and the one I am showing here is from the past 5-8 years, I am confused.
I can't be 100 % sure, since I was a kid those days and I leave the country a few years later. But the photo you posted shows the new terminal building, that is only a few years old, and in 1987 definitely there were different things in that particular place ( maybe the hangars in the picture were there in 1987 ? ).
scutfarcus From United States of America, joined May 2000, 357 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9560 times:
My Favorite (and most notorious) of these is if course the numerous times Mobuto Sese Seko chartered to Concorde for ridiculous reasons like taking his wife shopping in Paris. Absolutely horrible person - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobutu_Sese_Seko
Wingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 217 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10114 times:
Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 22): Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 17):
it flew from SMF to JFK
Was that flight subsonic ?? I'm asking because, IIRC, the sonic boom was the main factor for the Concorde being banned in almost every potential route and as a consequence they were allowed to fly supersonic only over the oceans ....
Yes, it was subsonic. Not sure if that used more or less fuel, but the sucker was heavy, and they sure made a lot of noise hauling it off the ground on a hot morning. As it went behind the trees from our view, we worried it wouldn't make it as it hadn't begun rotation before we couldn't see it any more, until it was in the air. It probably startled everyone driving by on I-5 at low level.
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dcajet From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 368 posts, RR: 5 Reply 26, posted (3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10012 times:
Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 22): I can't be 100 % sure, since I was a kid those days and I leave the country a few years later. But the photo you posted shows the new terminal building, that is only a few years old, and in 1987 definitely there were different things in that particular place ( maybe the hangars in the picture were there in 1987 ? ).
I can tell you that picture is not in MVD. Carrasco never had those hangars - those are wide body plane hangars. There was never such a thing in MVD. The ones shown on the picture posted by me are the Pluna ones, and have been there all along. Out of curiosity, can you quote the origin of that picture? That will help answer where it was taken.
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KDTWflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 807 posts, RR: 1 Reply 28, posted (3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10220 times:
I remember seeing the Concorde here in Detroit in 1999 I think it was. It was charted by the Nomads travel group which is now defunct but I remember being AF F-BVFA and it being quite awesome! There was a small newspaper clip in the Oakland Press mentioning its arrival and I made sure to see it.
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6208 posts, RR: 42 Reply 30, posted (3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10124 times:
Both BA and AF brought a Concorde to Tucson in the mid 1990s. The AF one got a broken nose gear strut when someone on the tug made an error, blocked the DL gates for 2 days.
What is it with all the "is there a possibilty airline X will.." threads? The answer it'll is possible.
Oshkosh1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 95 posts, RR: 0 Reply 31, posted (3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9960 times:
Stopped here in Oshkosh three times I believe...
I had tickets to fly on it for the hour "joy-ride" @$700, but it was grounded about a week prior(2000) so didn't make the trip over here.
I'll never forget the sound of those Olympus engines @reheat. My house at that time was about 2 miles almost due north of RWY 18/36, and when it turned "tail north" and lit-em-up, it rattled the windows.
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2220 posts, RR: 4 Reply 32, posted (3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9620 times:
Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 22): Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 17):it flew from SMF to JFK
Was that flight subsonic ?? I'm asking because, IIRC, the sonic boom was the main factor for the Concorde being banned in almost every potential route and as a consequence they were allowed to fly supersonic only over the oceans ....
Indeed a sub sonic flight. There were similar flights JFK-PDX a couple of times, one was tied in with the Oregon Symphony.
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Airman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 969 posts, RR: 2 Reply 33, posted (3 months 2 days ago) and read 9472 times:
YYT back a few years ago. Air France Charter for the Iceberg industry investment. Was amazing to see her blast out of YYT full afterburner what a sound!
skywaymanaz From United States of America, joined May 2012, 166 posts, RR: 0 Reply 34, posted (3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8173 times:
Concorde visited many American cities in a promotion with Braniff. They didn't operate for Braniff very long though. I was scheduled on a TWA flight PHX-MCI the morning it landed in Phoenix. Everyone at Sky Harbor was so excited waiting eagerly for it to come in. Not only was this back in the day non ticketed passengers could go to the gate but the East Terminal (Terminal 2 now) had an observation deck at the time. Unfortunately we departed before it was scheduled to arrive. I know it came to MCI later and that was in the paper but I didn't see it then either
goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1677 posts, RR: 3 Reply 35, posted (3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8053 times:
Quoting dcajet (Reply 20): Are you sure that picture is in MVD?
Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 22): I can't be 100 % sure, since I was a kid those days and I leave the country a few years later. But the photo you posted shows the new terminal building, that is only a few years old, and in 1987 definitely there were different things in that particular place ( maybe the hangars in the picture were there in 1987 ? ).
Quoting dcajet (Reply 26): I can tell you that picture is not in MVD. Carrasco never had those hangars - those are wide body plane hangars. There was never such a thing in MVD. The ones shown on the picture posted by me are the Pluna ones, and have been there all along. Out of curiosity, can you quote the origin of that picture? That will help answer where it was taken.
I had exactly the same feeling when I saw this picture and was sure it was not taken in MVD. It is either in TLS or in CDG.
aklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 715 posts, RR: 0 Reply 36, posted (3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8015 times:
Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 17): Yes, "The Americas" list is incomplete from mid-letter "R" on. I toured the AF SSC when it was in Sacramento on a grand tour. Surprised at how small it was inside. I forget where it arrived from, but it flew from SMF to JFK, having to move it's departure time up at least an hour, as the forecast temperature for the original schedule would have been too hot for it to lift off. As it was, it used every inch of the then-new 16L runway. Since SMF wasn't/isn't an AF station, catering was trucked up from SFO.
It made it to Reno, Nevada too. I wasn't there, but it must have used a lot of fuel taking off from a field elevation of 4400 feet.
FlyingAY From Finland, joined Jun 2007, 648 posts, RR: 0 Reply 37, posted (3 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7526 times:
Concordes were very frequent visitors to Finland's small northern airports (IVL, RVN, KTT) for "Santa Claus tourism". Never saw it personally, but the pictures of Concorde landing to these dark, remote, cold and snowy airports are impressive!
sierra3tango From United Arab Emirates, joined Mar 2013, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 39, posted (3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6927 times:
It made a unscheduled visit to Bahrain (long after scheduled services finished) in Jan 96 to 'commemorate' the first BA (or was it BOAC) scheduled flight 20 years earlier.
It was a bit weird as I went out to LHR & stood on the Queens Building Viewing Gallery to see the first flight take off on a cold Jan day 20 years earlier & there I was watching it arrive at its destination 20 years later.
oly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6225 posts, RR: 11 Reply 40, posted (3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6865 times:
Quoting goldorak (Reply 35):
Quoting dcajet (Reply 20):
Are you sure that picture is in MVD?
Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 22):
I can't be 100 % sure, since I was a kid those days and I leave the country a few years later. But the photo you posted shows the new terminal building, that is only a few years old, and in 1987 definitely there were different things in that particular place ( maybe the hangars in the picture were there in 1987 ? ).
Quoting dcajet (Reply 26):
I can tell you that picture is not in MVD. Carrasco never had those hangars - those are wide body plane hangars. There was never such a thing in MVD. The ones shown on the picture posted by me are the Pluna ones, and have been there all along. Out of curiosity, can you quote the origin of that picture? That will help answer where it was taken.
I had exactly the same feeling when I saw this picture and was sure it was not taken in MVD. It is either in TLS or in CDG.
Photo is at CDG following the fuel tank refits after the loss of F-BTSC in 2000.
uta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 18 posts, RR: 0 Reply 41, posted (3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6560 times:
Back when I was 11 in Fort Lamy, (now N'Djamena) Chad for the summer of 1973, Concorde 001 was chasing a solar eclipse across Africa.
We stood by the fence at the end of the runway as she landed just metres over our heads. Great times and helped fuel my love of aviation. We also had a visit by Jacques Cousteau in a Catalina there once who gave my father a flight in.
30th June 1973: A solar eclipse, predicted as the longest for 1,000 years, was observed by British, French and American scientists aboard the French prototype Concorde 001 supersonic aircraft on a flight from Las Palmas, Canaries to Fort Lamy, Chad.
The path of totality crossed the Atlantic, the Sahara Desert and East Africa. The moon's shadow travelled at over 3,000 km per hour. Flying at 55,000 feet, the jet's speed made possible a continuous view of the solar eclipse for 74 minutes, ten times longer than could be seen by an observer on the ground.
Four months later, Concorde 001, the first prototype to fly, was retired on October 19, 1973, to the French Air Museum at Le Bourget Airport. It had made 225 supersonic flights in a total of 397
CairnterriAIR From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 345 posts, RR: 0 Reply 43, posted (3 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6020 times:
BDL saw quite a few Concorde flights over the years, mostly diversions from JFK due to weather or air traffic. There may have been a few charter operations as well. Remember seeing an Air France Concorde show up one night during my mother's work shift at EA. She called us at home telling us the plane had just landed. We took a quick run out to see it. The plane looked amazing sitting out on the tarmac amoungst the USAir DC-9s!!!!
Scooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1163 posts, RR: 8 Reply 44, posted (3 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5462 times:
Found a video here of a visit to OSL, Oct. 10.98, to help celebrate the "new" airport, now located at ENGM. I had just sat down for an afternoon snack at my parents house located just N/E of FBU (the old airport), when I heard and saw the machine do a lowpass over the now-closed FBU.
Scooter01
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usscvr From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 60 posts, RR: 0 Reply 45, posted (3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5175 times:
Quoting skywaymanaz (Reply 34): Concorde visited many American cities in a promotion with Braniff. They didn't operate for Braniff very long though.
Yes, Braniff started their promotional tour in December of 1978. I remember it well. My mother actually got me out of school to watch it come it to MEM, landed on 36R. If memory serves me correctly, it was a joint BA/Braniff crew from IAD that day, then on to DFW. I have some (rather bad) old 110 Kodak shots of it arriving that I have kept all of these years. As a kid at the time, it was an amazing site (& sound!).
Again, if memory serves me correctly, Braniff was to have scheduled service to/from Europe to JFK & IAD, with domestic service to DFW. Since this was to be the only north american domestic service by the Concorde, Braniff really played it up by flying the Concorde to many of the cities they served.
pnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2057 posts, RR: 12 Reply 46, posted (3 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5024 times:
As a kid I loved it when the annual charters would come to Toronto. I think they were polar flights. With fuzzy recollection I think I remember a non-supersonic Fall Colours flight. Standing on the roof of Terminal One or near the end of the runway was always an exciting arrival. The variety of aircraft then as well made for interesting spotting but the Concorde was an event.
planespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3440 posts, RR: 5 Reply 47, posted (3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4838 times:
Quoting Oshkosh1 (Reply 31): I had tickets to fly on it for the hour "joy-ride" @$700, but it was grounded about a week prior(2000) so didn't make the trip over here.
While I wasn't going on the joy ride, I was also planning on seeing the Concorde that week at Oshkosh!
I was in high school and visiting my grandparents in Minneapolis at the time. I think we were like, two days away from leaving for my aunt's house in Appleton for my first visit to Oshkosh, and I was eating breakfast in the kitchen with my grandma when the "breaking news" thing flashed over the screen and first repoted in about the Paris crash. I think I was most excited about seeing the Concorde in person, so it was quite disappointing (obviously, I was much more disturbed/saddened by the loss of life/aircraft accident).
But I just remember thinking I was so close to seeing it.
PITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2714 posts, RR: 3 Reply 48, posted (3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4750 times:
Another neat metric to discuss is how many non-scheduled Concorde destinations had simultaneous Concorde arrivals on parallel runways.
In North America I'm 100% certain DFW has this distinction, and 99% sure MCO and DTW can also claim this. At DFW the occasion was the inauguration of Braniff's Concorde service to IAD using Air France and British Airways aircraft (which continued on to Paris and London respectively).
Here's some Braniff public relations material, although there was never a Braniff livery applied to a Concorde:
It was such a big deal that all three network stations here (WSB, WXIA and WAGA) covered it live. I was 10 and thought the plane was huge based and when I finally got to see a Concorde at JFK in 2000 when they were grounded, I was disappointed to discover that it wasn't much bigger than a DC-9. AF was supposed to have brought the Concorde to Atlanta that fall (I can't recall if they were there for a charter or were offering flights to nowhere.), but with the grounding of the Concorde, that never came to be.
Bellerophon From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 574 posts, RR: 60 Reply 52, posted (3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4284 times:
Oshkosh1
...in Oshkosh three times I believe...I had tickets to fly on it for the hour "joy-ride" @$700, but it was grounded about a week prior(2000) so didn't make the trip over here.
What a coincidence, I was due to be on that flight at Oshkosk as well.
Who knows, we might have met! Sorry we didn't make it, and I trust you got your money back!
Speedbird128
...BMW charter I mention, it could not have been 1992, as I was just finishing school at that time...
I think you'll find that vc10 is correct - and I suspect there is a reason he is sure of the date!
aklrno
...It made it to Reno ... it must have used a lot of fuel taking off from a field elevation of 4400 feet...
She always did use a lot of fuel on take-off, but interestingly, on taking-off from Reno, her fuel flows at take-off power would actually have been much lower - by roughly 900 USg/eng/hr or 3,600 USg/hr in total - than had she been taking-off at sea level.
Her engine thrust, regulated take-off weight, and initial rate-of-climb would all have been lower as well.
What would have increased was the length and duration of her take-off run!
jcavinato From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 516 posts, RR: 0 Reply 54, posted (3 months 1 day ago) and read 4119 times:
BA's sales department had it come into Harrisburg, Pennsylvania once to do a marketing splash for the heads of travel agencies around that region. I met one of the sales folks the day before and I asked if I could visit it on that event day. I was politely told that it was by special invitation only and the roster was already filled. The plane was just on display for folks to walk through it with explanations and excited things said about getting clients to fly it. I just took that response to me as kind of a blow off of a nobody who was worth extending an invitation to. I always wanted to fly it and wondered in awe if I might ever do so.
My career blossomed and starting in 1990 I found myself doing a round trip on it JFK-LHR three or four times a year up until its last month of flight. As I remember, a round trip on it built triple miles, and with the air fare on a BA credit card, it only took four trips in a year to get great premium flyer status. BA sure knew how to "polish" high revenue high volume passengers.
Indeed. The Santa flights were one of the rare occasions that would bring Concordes of both BA and AF to the same airport at the same time. There are some rare pics featuring both BA and AF Concordes in Lappland, but apparently it was banned to take such pics at the end by the respective airlines. Can someone confirm if this is true?
HBGDS From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 207 posts, RR: 0 Reply 58, posted (3 months 9 hours ago) and read 3589 times:
I know there was a mention of visits to Switzerland in an earlier string, but incomplete. Here's a more complete one, though some info is still missing
4/24/76 AF to GVA (AF advertising new flight to South America--at the time, AF accounted for 25% of all traffic in and out of GVA, so they were hoping to drum up business)
8/76: AF to GVA CHartered by Hotelplan (a travel agency). Reportedly THE first SST charter.
Summer 82 (July _AUgust) seven AF flights chartered by General Motors
May 1986 G-BOAC in BSL
7 May 1989 F-BTSC in BSL
G-BOAA and F-BVFF visit on the same day for the 75 anniversary of GVA airport (9/9/95)
shamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4041 posts, RR: 13 Reply 59, posted (3 months 9 hours ago) and read 3579 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 10): This is the Concorde when it came on one of its various visits to BFS. This in fact was the last ever time it came to Ireland.
Shannon was in fact a regular stop on winter season charter flights from LHR en route to Barbados, where a tech stop would be made at Shannon to uplift more fuel to allow a non stop service to the caribbean island. In some conditions, ie very strong head winds, a further stop sometimes had to be made!
Dublin was also visited, though far less frequently, and in fact it was an AF concorde on those occasions, including the ill fated F-BTSC.
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flflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 60 posts, RR: 0 Reply 60, posted (3 months 9 hours ago) and read 3546 times:
Yes in 1982, the BA and AF Concordes arrived at the same time and touched down almost to the second at the same time. I was on the roof of the DL wing and had a great view. See pic below shot from the west side of the field from a new chopper.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6675 posts, RR: 17 Reply 64, posted (3 months 8 hours ago) and read 3444 times:
Quoting skywaymanaz (Reply 34): They didn't operate for Braniff very long though
Quoting PITrules (Reply 48): Another neat metric to discuss is how many non-scheduled Concorde destinations had simultaneous Concorde arrivals on parallel runways.
In North America I'm 100% certain DFW has this distinction
Yes. On 12 January 1979 BA Concorde G-N84AE (previously and subsequently registered G=BOAE) temporarily reregistered made a parallel approach at DFW with AF Concorde temporarily registered N94FC.
Another parallel landing was on 22 October 2003 at LHR that, of course, was a scheduled destination.. G-BOAD was operating JFK-LHR (BA002) during the last week of Concorde commercial operations and landed on 27R. G-BOAG was operating MAN-LHR (BA9021C), a non-scheduled flight operated as part of Concorde's UK farewell tour and landed on 27R. But, of course, LHR was always a Concorde scheduled destination.
Visually more impressive was the final approach of three in-line Concordes at LHR on the last day of operations, 24 October 2003. G-BOAE operating EDI-LHR (BA9021C) landed at 1601 hrs. G-BOAF operating LHR-LHR (BA9022C) landed 2 mins 21 secs later. It was followed 2 mins 19 secs later by G-BOAG operating JFK-LHR (BA002). All three aircraft could be seen in line on their finals although the live BBC coverage onluy managed to capture two in the air together:
In the early days of Concorde there was a coordinated time-parallel Concorde departure on 21 January 1976. A BA Concorde departed from LHR at the same time (11am GMT) as an AF Concorde departed from CDG. The BA aircraft (G-BOAA) was operating their first commercial flight, LHR-BAH. The AF Concorde (F-BVFA) was operating their first commercial flight, CDG-DKR-GIG.
I don't see YVR mentioned anywhere in the destinations list. I watched a BA Concorde land at YVR in August 1986. It was appearing that weekend at the annual airshow at Abbotsford airport (YXX) 40 miles east of YVR. Don't think it landed at YXX. Made a few flypasts and returned to YVR. Found following video from that 1986 Abbotsford appearance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhwxdjqyOS4
yvrsr From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 97 posts, RR: 0 Reply 66, posted (3 months 6 hours ago) and read 3320 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 65): I don't see YVR mentioned anywhere in the destinations list. I watched a BA Concorde land at YVR in August 1986. It was appearing that weekend at the annual airshow at Abbotsford airport (YXX) 40 miles east of YVR. Don't think it landed at YXX. Made a few flypasts and returned to YVR. Found following video from that 1986 Abbotsford appearance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhwxd...qyOS4
I remember seeing the Concorde flying around Vancouver in1986. I think it came to town as part of Expo 86. It might have the same time you mention above.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12735 posts, RR: 79 Reply 69, posted (3 months 5 hours ago) and read 3233 times:
Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 59):
Shannon was in fact a regular stop on winter season charter flights from LHR en route to Barbados, where a tech stop would be made at Shannon to uplift more fuel to allow a non stop service to the Caribbean island. In some conditions, ie very strong head winds, a further stop sometimes had to be made!
Only in the early days of the BGI operation. Later refinements in flight planning allowed a non stop service from LHR-BGI.
In my time on the fleet, 1997 to the end, the times a tech stop had to be made, quite rarely, at SNN or LIS, was if a tech issue came up at the last minute or after take off.
Of course, BGI-LHR, going over-water almost immediately, supercruise was attained sooner and therefore far more efficient.
My last ever Concorde flight was to BGI, non stop, 75 of us plus crew on board, when G-BOAE went into retirement in Barbados.
60,000 feet, the clearest, best defined view of the curvature of the Earth you could get on a Concorde service, marvelous.
Knowing it was the last time I'd ever see it in my lifetime.
And they say we live in a high tech era.
(I'm reminded of that episode of 'The West Wing' when Leo laments the lack of a bold space program since Apollo, how other hoped for advances from that era never happened, then mentioning that not even Concorde is flying now. Josh pipes up about personal computers to which Leo retorts 'a more efficient way of distributing gossip and porn.')
SmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1604 posts, RR: 32 Reply 70, posted (3 months 4 hours ago) and read 3154 times:
Sometime in the summer of 1999, as I remember, Concorde was supposed to arrive at FWA (my hometown airport) for a charter in conjunction with a Cunard QE2 Atlantic crossing. The plan was for a charter group in Fort Wayne, IN, to board Concorde at FWA then fly to LHR, then return to the USA via QE2.
When I got to the airport that day (just to see it, I wasn't part of the charter group), they told me the Concorde flight was cancelled (so was the rest of the trip) due to lack of interest.
So, I can say FWA almost saw Concorde!
SmithAir747
I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made... (Psalm 139:14)
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2220 posts, RR: 4 Reply 71, posted (3 months 4 hours ago) and read 3101 times:
Quoting baileyncreme (Reply 63): I saw the Concorde fly into Portland International Airport (KPDX) back in the summer of 89.
NE Marine Drive was clogged the entire weekend as people drove by to get a glimpse.
It was parked at the Delta concourse.
This day I was departing PDX to HNL via SFO on UA. I was in F. The concourse was packed with press, (I was trying to sneak out of town for the weekend) I remember they were checking tickets to make sure those going down the concourse needed to be there, and I remember how strange that was back then. This was when UA was on what is now D. The Concorde's arrival had all the departures and arrivals delayed, once she landed it pulled right next to our UA DC-8, I was seated on the window, on the side where the concorde was.
A delay that almost cost us the connection in SFO, where we ran to catch our HNL flight that was a 742 routing SFO-HNL-AKL, and was ferrying a fifth engine to a stranded sister ship in HNL. Right after we boarded and sat in our big comfy F seats right in the nose, they shut the door and we were pushing back minutes later. This trip was filled with first times for me.
Next Flights: AS PDX-SAN-LIH on 739/738 in F, HA LIH-HNL-KOA-OGG on 717 in Y, AS OGG-PDX on 738 in F
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3624 posts, RR: 11 Reply 72, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2702 times:
BA sent Concorde to CMH in 1985 and once a year from 1995-97. I know for a fact the July 1995 trip was heavily promoted as a USAir/British Airways partnership thing, with people lining the fences of the long-term parking lots and parking garage roof to get a glimpse of it coming in.
My mom (who had recently made it through breast cancer) and I went on the hour-long CMH-CMH joyride. That airplane got warm on the inside, which made it a bit uncomfortable.
jayhup From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 441 posts, RR: 0 Reply 73, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2670 times:
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 5): This website documents many Concorde destinations on charter. I know for a fact that there are some cities in the US missing. I toured the Concorde in ICT when it visited for a charter flight.
And I was probably the person who gave you that tour...
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4927 posts, RR: 27 Reply 74, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2668 times:
Quoting BenSandilands (Reply 21): AF was also briefly banned from operating Concorde out of Sydney when the same aircraft disobeyed tower instructions on departure from Sydney which required take off to the south over Botany Bay. It took off to the north,
Just curious. How exactly does an aircraft takes off to the North when it has been instructed by the tower to take off to the South?
Scooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1163 posts, RR: 8 Reply 75, posted (2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2572 times:
Quoting AR385 (Reply 74): Just curious. How exactly does an aircraft takes off to the North when it has been instructed by the tower to take off to the South?
Ah, the French...
-have you ever been a passenger in a taxi in Paris?
Scooter01
"We all have a girl and her name is nostalgia" - Hemingway
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4927 posts, RR: 27 Reply 76, posted (2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2551 times:
Quoting Scooter01 (Reply 75): -have you ever been a passenger in a taxi in Paris?
Yes. Still. A major airport is probably not the same. I can´t imagine all the go arounds, taxi clearances cancelled and major navigationa and approach disruptment, up to 50 miles away if an aircraft INSTRUCTED to takeoff on a runway takes off on the opposite, unauthorized.
BenSandilands From Australia, joined Mar 2013, 64 posts, RR: 0 Reply 78, posted (2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2482 times:
Quoting AR385 (Reply 74): Just curious. How exactly does an aircraft takes off to the North when it has been instructed by the tower to take off to the South?
There was a small tailwind component for the permitted southerly departure. The captain was reported to have told the tower that the departure would be into the wind. I have no recollection as to what other traffic was doing at the time, which was when SYD only had two intersecting runways 07/25 and 16/34.
However I do recall when reporting various incidents at SYD that there were other occasions when pilots have refused the runway offered and nominated their choice.
It was quoted at being only several knots, or well within normal variability for otherwise still conditions.
On a side note, rumour has it Mobutu Sese Seko, former dictator of Zaire (now Dem. Rep. of Congo) would charter the bird for private flights between Kinshasa / Gbadolite and Paris / Nice. It is hard to find reliable information though. You can check this site (in french) : http://www.concorde-jet.com/photos.php?ref=club_concorde2136
readytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 2626 posts, RR: 3 Reply 82, posted (2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2109 times:
1980's England, there was a travel agency that chartered Concorde for trips that just went around the English channel and then returned to LHR. They were called "Flights of Fantasy" by Goodwood Travel I think.
I paid for my mother to have a birthday trip in Jan 1986, took about an hour and now at 84 she remembers it well and loved every moment of it, cost less that £300.
you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6675 posts, RR: 17 Reply 85, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1495 times:
Quoting VV701 (Reply 64): In addition to Gatwick Concorde flew into ten other airports when on diversion but not on any "scheduled" occasions. They were:
Atlantic City (ACY)
Bangor (BGR)
Boston (BOS)
Gander (YQX)
Halifax (YHZ)
Lajes (TER)
Montreal (YUL)
Newark (EWR)
Shannon SNN)
Windsor Locks (BDL)
[Source: Christopher Orlebar, "The Concorde Story", 6th edn, Osprey Publishing 2004]
In addition to the diversion airports listed above here is the list of "Charter Destinations" served up until 1998 as given in the same source (p.231):
Abbotsford, Acapulco, Albany, Andrews AFB, Anchorage, Antigua, Aruba, Asheville, Atlanta, Atlantic City, Austin, Baltimore, Bangor, Barbados, Barreirinhas, Battle Creek, Bermuda, Boston (sic), Brasilia, Bogota, Buenos Aries, Buffalo, Calgary, Caracas, Cayenne. Chaleston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Colorado Springs, Columbus, Dayton, Denver, Detroit, Edmonton, Fort-de-France, Fort Lauderdale, Fort Meyers, Goose Bay, Grand Cayman, Hampton, Harrisburg, Hartford/Springfield, Havana, Honolulu, Houston Ellington, Houston International, Iguassu, Indianapolis, Jackson, Jacksonville, Kailua-Kona, Kingston, Las Vegas, Lexington, Lima, Little Rock, Lubbock, Mexico City, Miami, Midland-Odessa, Moncton, Montego Bay, Montevideo, Montreal, Nashville, Nassau, Newburg Stewart, New Orleans, Newport, New York (sic), Oakland, Oaklahoma City, Omaha, Ontario (CA), Orlando, Oshkosh, Ottawa, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsbuurgh, Pointe-a-Pitre, Port-au-Prince, Portland, Port of Spain, Providence, Puerto Rico, Quebec, Raleigh, Recife, Regina, Reno, Richmond, Rio de Janiero, Rochester (which one?), Rockford, Sacremento, St Louis, St Lucia, Saint-Martin, Salt Lake City, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, San Juan, Santa Maria, Santiago, Santa Domingo, Sao Paulo, Schenectady, Seattle (BFI), Seattle (SEA), Springfield, Syracuse, Tahiti, Tampa (MCF), Tampa (TPA), Toronto, Yrinidad, Tucson, Val d'Or, Vancouver, Waco, Washington (ADW), Washington (IAD), Wichita, Wilmington, Windsor Locks and Windsor (YQG)
AUSTRALASIA
Aukland, Brisbane, Christchurch, Darw3in, Easter Island, Fiji, Hao, Learmouth, Mururoa, Noumea, Papeete, Perth and Sydney.
EUROPE (ex-UK) AND MIDDLE EAST
Aarhus, Aalborg, Abu Dhabi, Albacete, Amman, Amsterdam, Ancona, Ankara, Aqaba, Athens, Badajoz, Baikonour, Bahrain, Barcelona, Basel, Bastia, Beauvais, Beirut, Bergen, Berlin (TXL), Biarritz, Billund, Bologna, Bordeaux, Bratislava, Brest, Brussels, Budapest, Cambrai, Charleroi, Chateauroux, Clermont-Ferrand, Cologn, Copenhagen, Dijon, Dhahran, Dubai, Dublin, Epinal, Faro, Frankfurt, Geneva, Graz, Grenada, Grenoble, Gothenburg, Hamburg, Hannover, Haifa, Helsinki, Ibiza, Istanbul, Ivalo, Jeddah, Kangerlussuaq, Keflavik, Klagenfurt, Kish, Kuwait, Lajes, Lanzarote, Larnaca, Las Palmas, Leipzig, Liege, Lille, Linz, Lisbon, Luxembourg, Lyon, Madrid, Malaga, Malta, Marseille, Metz, Milan (LIN), Milan (MXP), Montpeiller, Moscow (which?), Mulhouse, Munich, Munster, Muscat, Nantes, Nice, Novosibrisk, Nuremberg, Oporto, Oslo (which?), Ostend, Patina, Paris CDG), Paris (LBG), Paris (ORY), Pescara, Pisa, Poitiers, Prague, Reims, Riyadh, Rome (FCO), Rovaniemi, San'a, Santiago de Compestella, St Petersburg, Salzburg, Tarbes, Tenerife (which?), Tel Aviv, Toulouse, Tours, Turin, Turku, Vasteras, Valladolid, Venice, Vichy, Vienna and Warsaw.
FAR EAST, INDIAN SUBCONTINENT & CENTRAL ASIA
Bali, Bangkok, Bangui, Beijing, Bombay, Calcutta, Chiang Mai, Columbo, Dacca, Delhi, Denpassar, Guam, Hong Kong, Islamabad, Kathmandu, Kuala Lumpur, Madras, Nagasaki, Osaka (KIX), Singapore, Tashkent, Tehran, Tianjin and Tokyo (NRT).
UNITED KINGDOM
Aberdeen, Belfast, Birmingham, Boscombe Down, Bournemouth, Brize Norton, Cardiff, Coltishall, Derby, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Exeter, Fairford, Farnborough, Filton, Finningley, Glasgow (PIK), Hatfield, Humberside, Kinloss, Leeds-Bradford, Leuchars, Liverpool, Llanbedr, London (LGW), London (LHR), London (LTN), London (STN), Macrihanish, Manchester, Manston, Mildenhall, Newcastle, St Mawgan, Teeside and Yoevilton.
Note that the above will exclude any "Charter Destinations" first served in the last five years of Concorde operations, that is between January 1999 and October 2003.
brooklynchris13 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 39 posts, RR: 0 Reply 88, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1214 times:
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 72): BA sent Concorde to CMH in 1985 and once a year from 1995-97. I know for a fact the July 1995 trip was heavily promoted as a USAir/British Airways partnership thing, with people lining the fences of the long-term parking lots and parking garage roof to get a glimpse of it coming in.My mom (who had recently made it through breast cancer) and I went on the hour-long CMH-CMH joyride. That airplane got warm on the inside, which made it a bit uncomfortable.
First trip to CMH was on my birthday, September 11, 1985. I was excused from school in Reynoldsburg to go to the airport with my Dad provided I took photos and wrote a report on it. They actually had all of the spectators on the tarmac near where the delta concourse expansion is today. What a sight. Note: It was a great day in Ohio for more reasons.. the same night Pete Rose Broke Ty Cobb's hits record... helped to make up a little for events that would happen on my birthday sixteen years later.
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