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PIA A320 Deal Off Again

777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5288 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

for the third time PK have cancelled the deal for A320s, according to PALPA facebook page first aircraft was due tomorrow and had been given registrations as well, all five were to be delievered by mid May unpainted though and would get livery here.

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hotplane From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 797 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6176 times:

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Airbus should wash their hands of 'customers' like this. They have more than enough genuine orders to keep them going.

Polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6136 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 1):
Airbus should wash their hands of 'customers' like this. They have more than enough genuine orders to keep them going.

This is about leased planes, not new orders from Airbus. PIA in fact has no outstanding orders with Airbus.

[Edited 2013-03-18 16:20:56]

777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6118 times:

they werent orders but leases of used aircraft from some leasing company.

from PK facebook

"PIA is ready to receive 5 narrow body Airbus A320-232 series aircraft on lease to take position of old B737-300 series aircraft, incoming aircraft registered to PCAA and induction starting from 20th March 2013 as per following schedule:

A320-232 AP-BLC: 20 March 2013
A320-232 AP-BLE: 31 March 2013
A320-232 AP-BLA: 07 April 2013
A320-232 AP-BLB: 20 May 2013
A320-232 AP-BLD: 24 May 2013

All 5 Airbus A320-232 will be delivered in full white color and PIA Engineering (Base Station, Karachi) will initially look-up to make aircraft ready for departures, and also engineering personnel will paint the latest livery, taking national flag on tails."

artist impression http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...209.114644971897870&type=1&theater

hotplane From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 797 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6118 times:

Very sorry! I was sure they were coming straight from Airbus.

rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6079 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 1):
Airbus should wash their hands of 'customers' like this. They have more than enough genuine orders to keep them going.

All used aircraft were to come from Jetstar Asia.

One day perhaps PIA might have competent and commercial management !

breiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1815 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6079 times:

Pity, the A320 is beautiful in the PIA's livery.
Do you know from whom the ac were sourced?

rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6047 times:

ex 9V-JSC c/n 2395
9V- JSD c/n 2401
9V-VLE c/n 2156
9V-JSG c/n 2457
Plus one other

bennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 6392 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6035 times:

So is PIA to continue with the B737-300's?.

rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5999 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 8):
So is PIA to continue with the B737-300's?.

Suppose so however pretty soon they won't have many airworthy frames left at current attrition rates

rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5961 times:

Fifth aircraft should have been

ex 9V-VLF c/n 2164

kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11998 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (3 months 3 days ago) and read 5609 times:

Did they give any reason why the sale was cancelled? Was it financial - or other reasons?

How many airworthy 737s do they have in operation now?

na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9710 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

Whats with the 733 damaged last month? Spares source or are they crazy enough to repair the old metal?

817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 1490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5183 times:

Quoting na (Reply 12):
are they crazy enough to repair the old metal?

Well they might, Not sure if you've seen this photo but the description is of interest, though it remains to be seen if it actually happened:

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Blast Reality, Burst it into shreds! Banishment, This World!

777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5070 times:

Surprise! they have tendered today for A320 and ATR simulators, so I guess they will be getting the Airbus but from somewhere else.

Only two 737s remain in service, a fourth one is phased out and on sale to scrappers, parts from that may get the third one flying again.

the 320s were coming from Jetstar Asia as rutnkard said.

initially they said the v2000 egines were not right, then they said they wanted newer aircraft, now they might be having finabce issues at the same time they are planning to bring in new uniforms for which they have also sought designers.

[Edited 2013-03-19 03:27:38]

bennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 6392 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

IMO, if the cost of new uniforms is a major factor, then they really HAVE got problems.

rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

Reports out that Pakistan Government grounds PIA and seizes bank account a mid tax claim.

No wonder the 320 leases have been cancelled.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-92964-FBR-freezes-PIA-accounts--

[Edited 2013-03-19 12:11:03]

na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9710 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 16):

Wow, what now? Selling some 777s, the only assets still worth anything?

777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Partial payment made, accounts unfrozen, just a game they play off and on.

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