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Is ACT Cargo Rebranding To MyCargo Or Not?  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5155 posts, RR: 4
Posted (2 months 16 hours ago) and read 554 times:

Whats the status of HNA and ACT jv, does ACT continue as is with its A300 fleet or will it become MyCargo and get HNA livery?

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User currently offlineviasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1813 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 months 8 hours ago) and read 381 times:

Afaik myCargo Airlines is the new name of ACT Airlines since late 2011.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22023 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (2 months 8 hours ago) and read 376 times:

I answered this in Turkish Aviation thread as it was also asked by OPer.

MyCargo is simply a commercial marketing name to go along with the MyTechnic MRO.
The airlines name is still ACT, however some commercial stuff and things like letter head and business cards and marketing has the MyCargo branding.

Also the only reason the 2 744Fs have basic HNA livery is because they came by way of HNA. No desire to spent money repainting them.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5155 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 months 6 hours ago) and read 342 times:

No LAX, they came after conversion at TLV in basic ANA livery, in IST they were painted into Yangtse River Express Cargo livery with the MyCargo titles and then last year one has been repainted into new HNA group livery but with grey belly, the Chinese counterparts have white belly.

Thats why i asked if ACT will get the HNA livery and MyCargo name on A300s too.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22023 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (2 months 5 hours ago) and read 334 times:

You realize Yangtze River is HNA right. The planes belong to HNA, not ACT and the livery reflects HNA desires.

The 744s are not leased directly by ACT but via Hong Kong subsidiary of HNA on sublease to Turkey. Also the 2nd 744 TC-ACG while being in Turkish registry for a while now has not been used by ACT until recent months. Its was being utilized by HNA for other affiliate activity.

Also maybe you are not aware but HNA has more freighter aircraft then they know what do with. They just let a A330F delivery position go.

ACT itself continues to nurse the A300s until they die. As of last month when I last spoke with them there was no plans to rebrand them.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5155 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 months 4 hours ago) and read 312 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
You realize Yangtze River is HNA right. The planes belong to HNA, not ACT and the livery reflects HNA desires.

Yes fully aware, but I was under the impression they got 49% of ACT and were doing away with that brand, thats why HNA group colours and MyCargo title a bit of both companies.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
The 744s are not leased directly by ACT but via Hong Kong subsidiary of HNA on sublease to Turkey. Also the 2nd 744 TC-ACG while being in Turkish registry for a while now has not been used by ACT until recent months. Its was being utilized by HNA for other affiliate activity.

Know this too, I also heard that both aircraft were free and available for ACMI duty last year, does MyCargo not have its own scheduled network? I thought HNA were making it a scheduled cargo airline not an ACMI thing.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
Also maybe you are not aware but HNA has more freighter aircraft then they know what do with. They just let a A330F delivery position go.

Not aware of this and its irrelevant in relation to the topic at hand i.e ACT branding going or staying on A300 fleet, which you answered here and in the TK av thread.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
As of last month when I last spoke with them there was no plans to rebrand them.

Thats all I wanted to know, thanks.

Quoting 777way (Reply 3):
in basic ANA livery

thats ANA-All Nippon not HNA

[Edited 2013-03-19 14:41:58]

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22023 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (2 months 4 hours ago) and read 296 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 5):
but I was under the impression they got 49% of ACT

To be exact its about 44%. There are some other parties including US ones that own the other 5%.

Quoting 777way (Reply 5):
does MyCargo not have its own scheduled network, I thought HNA were making it a scheduled cargo airline not an ACMI thing.

No. One 744 is on ACMI for Magma Cargo out of Luxembourg, and second available to general charter work.

The idea of a schedule operation is a bit premature. Markets out of China have slowed and HNA does not know quite what it wants to do with its own freighter aircraft let alone ACT. HNA has a glut of freighter capacity at its affiliates. Maybe it will come up with a coherent plan, but nothing for now.


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User currently onlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1254 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 months 3 hours ago) and read 280 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 5):
does MyCargo not have its own scheduled network? I thought HNA were making it a scheduled cargo airline not an ACMI thing.

Yes, they do have a scheduled network, but it's very limited:

BRU-FIH-LAD 1x weekly (Thursday) B744 on behalf of flyCongo Cargo in cooperation with Magma Aviation
NBO-MSE 1x weekly (Sunday) B744 on behalf of Magma Aviation
SAW-LGG-SAW 5x weekly A300 in cooperation with TNT
SAW-TLL-SAW 1x weekly A300 (although not operated every week)

Plus some other adhoc charters every now and then, but in general their fleet is (very) underutilized.


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