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LH's Last Seasonal A380 Flight To MIA (3/30/13)  
User currently offlineMiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 1927 posts, RR: 52
Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9451 times:
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Lufthansa will be pulling out the Airbus A380 out of MIA and replacing it with the "Queen of the Skies" 747-400

The A380 will return to SFO starting tomorrow (3/31/13)

The A380 is set to return to MIA in October for the winter season.

[Edited 2013-03-29 21:09:27]


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User currently offlinemiaskies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7994 times:

Title is a bit misleading, pull is a seasonal change as always.


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User currently offlineMiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 1927 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7619 times:
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Quoting miaskies (Reply 1):

You're right, my mistake.



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User currently offlineQazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6166 times:

So how is LH deploying its A380s for the summer timetable? And how many are there in the fleet at the moment?

As far as I know the cities to be served by LH A380 in the summer are:
- New York (JFK) ... daily
- San Francisco... daily
- Houston (???) ... daily (???)
- Johannesburg ... daily
- Beijing... daily
- Tokyo... daily
- Singapore... daily

Am I forgetting any?... Are they all served daily?... And how many frames are required for these services?


User currently offlineMiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 1927 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5998 times:
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Quoting Qazar (Reply 3):

Lufthansa has MIA, SFO and I believe JFK as the seasonal routes for the A380. But I think Lufthansa took the A380 out of JFK completely.

All of Lufthansa's A380 routes are daily.

Lufthansa has currently 10 A380s in fleet.

Source: http://a380.lufthansa.com/TAKEPART/#/DE/EN/FLIGHTPLAN and http://a380.lufthansa.com/TAKEPART/#/DE/EN/HOME

[Edited 2013-03-30 22:14:22]


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7241 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5963 times:

Yea not really news here. A normal seasonal schedule change. When is MIA getting the 748? That will be good to see. I thought the announced something about the 748.


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User currently offlinemiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 1927 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5918 times:
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Quoting flymia (Reply 5):

What was announced and from who?

And reports say that Lufthansa will bring the 747-8 to MIA beginning in May

[Edited 2013-03-30 22:39:16]

[Edited 2013-03-30 22:39:36]


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17121 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5865 times:

Quoting miami (Reply 6):
And reports say that Lufthansa will bring the 747-8 to MIA beginning in May

Will they really have enough frames to send it to MIA?



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7241 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4993 times:

Quoting miami (Reply 6):
What was announced and from who?

And reports say that Lufthansa will bring the 747-8 to MIA beginning in May

I don't remember who said it, I think I saw it on Anet. And May, sounds good. Looking forward to see the pax 748 here.



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User currently offlinemiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 1927 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4371 times:
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Quoting flymia (Reply 8):

That was me, I posted it. I got the news from ExMiami.org. But there is no sources. But ExMiami is always accurate so I do believe the 747-8i will come to MIA in May



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User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1453 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3952 times:

Quoting Qazar (Reply 3):
- New York (JFK) ... daily

No JFK this summer, double daily will be operated by B744!
There are strong rumors about PVG later this summer and GRU next winter!


User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3686 times:

LH's A380 destinations for summer 2013 are:
IAH
JNB
NRT
PEK
SFO
SIN
- all daily

Quoting flymia (Reply 5):

... at least there isn't any 747-8 to MIA planned at the moment.
Planned are:
BLR
DEL
HKG
IAD
LAX
- all daily



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User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1019 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

Quoting DABZF (Reply 11):
LH's A380 destinations for summer 2013 are:
IAH
JNB
NRT
PEK
SFO
SIN
- all daily

Which means SFO has been swapped for MIA. That's also what they did last year, right?

I would imagine they'll switch it back again for this year's winter schedule.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27231 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3598 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 5):
A normal seasonal schedule change.

Indeed its been like that for the last few years now. Would be good to see it year round. Had the pleasure of flying the route Winter before last.


User currently offlineLH422 From Germany, joined Sep 2010, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3561 times:

Quoting DABZF (Reply 11):
LH's A380 destinations for summer 2013 are:
IAH
JNB
NRT
PEK
SFO
SIN
- all daily

That's really not many destinations considering they have ten planes. Here's the times these planes will be away from home:

IAH 10:05-09:00+1 (22:55)
JNB 22:05-05:45+2 (31:40)
NRT 13:50-14:30+1 (24:40)
PEK 17:15-14:45+1 (21:30)
SFO 09:40-10:45+1 (25:05)
SIN 21:35-05:40+2 (32:05)

Of the 240 plane-hours they have every day, the planes will be gone for 158. I suppose the rest of the time will be spent doing maintenance and wing fixes?


User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

Quoting LH422 (Reply 14):
Of the 240 plane-hours they have every day, the planes will be gone for 158. I suppose the rest of the time will be spent doing maintenance and wing fixes?

Isn't this normal to high, long haul utilization?


User currently offlineLH422 From Germany, joined Sep 2010, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Quoting cmf (Reply 15):
Isn't this normal to high, long haul utilization?

The PEK rotation could work with only one plane. SFO, NRT, SIN could be done with four planes and IAH, JNB with three with time to spare. That leaves two planes.


User currently offlineLH422 From Germany, joined Sep 2010, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Today's Lufthansa newsletter confirms MIA as the next 747-8i destination! It's already loaded into the system on some days (example: June 14).

User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting LH422 (Reply 16):
The PEK rotation could work with only one plane. SFO, NRT, SIN could be done with four planes and IAH, JNB with three with time to spare. That leaves two planes.

That is the answer to a different question. The question at hand is how 15.8 hours of daily utilization stack up? To my knowledge it is pretty good.


User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1019 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3039 times:

Quoting cmf (Reply 18):
That is the answer to a different question. The question at hand is how 15.8 hours of daily utilization stack up? To my knowledge it is pretty good.

I don't remember how utilisation is calculated, but those 15.8 hours are time spent away from base, not time spent in the air. The JNB and SIN routes both have a lot of downtime at the other end, the other routes are normal turnarounds. Across the fleet, it probably adds up to 12-13 flight hours per aircraft, per day, on average.



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User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 19):
I don't remember how utilisation is calculated, but those 15.8 hours are time spent away from base, not time spent in the air. The JNB and SIN routes both have a lot of downtime at the other end, the other routes are normal turnarounds. Across the fleet, it probably adds up to 12-13 flight hours per aircraft, per day, on average.

Ahh, read the data wrong. Thanks for making me understand.

Still, is it unreasonable utilization?


User currently offlineLH422 From Germany, joined Sep 2010, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

Quoting cmf (Reply 18):
That is the answer to a different question. The question at hand is how 15.8 hours of daily utilization stack up? To my knowledge it is pretty good.

Compared to the 747-8i utilization up until March (four daily destinations, DEL, BLR, IAD, LAX, with four planes) I find this number low. That number was above 20 hours away from home on average.


User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2896 times:

I just checked LH'S website for May, June & July & they didn't show the 747-8 comming to Mia  

User currently offlinemiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 1927 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2830 times:
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Quoting mia305 (Reply 22):

It did show on Lufthansa.com. I searched a flight for May 30 and it should the aircraft type. Which was a 747-8



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User currently offlinecmf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

Quoting LH422 (Reply 21):
Compared to the 747-8i utilization up until March (four daily destinations, DEL, BLR, IAD, LAX, with four planes) I find this number low. That number was above 20 hours away from home on average.

What is the meaning of the numbers? Is one good and one bad? Are both good? What are the reasons for the difference? Are they functions of the routes? Are they a function of tight scheduling causing delays? Are they a function of loose scheduling to avoid costly delays? Are the the function of significant maintenance?


25 Post contains links LH422 : I'm not really sure what they mean either. I was just under the impression that LH are not utilizing the fleet as much as they could in order to leav
26 miami : Showed* I apologize for my autocorrection..
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