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User currently offlineDeltaXNA From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 200 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 16156 times:

What routes will possibly get upgrades to mainline from eagle over the summer?

What cities and routes will they possibly add?

Will any existing mainline routes get larger upgrades?

So far there
DFW-LBB and DFW-CRP

Also, ORD-IND

[Edited 2013-03-30 16:00:19]

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User currently offlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1924 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 16116 times:

Quoting DeltaXNA (Thread starter):
What routes will possibly get upgrades to mainline from eagle over the summer?

Most probably not this summer, but at some point I'd love for AA mainline to return to CVG         


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15830 times:

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 1):
Most probably not this summer, but at some point I'd love for AA mainline to return to CVG

I think the writing is on the wall for that. AA will soon have the critical mass to support mainline flights to basically every major market in the country, especially to overpriced legacy hubs like CVG where they won't have to undercut fares by much if at all...


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2924 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15752 times:

Also announced:
SAN-MIA
ORD-PDX


User currently offlinemesaflyguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3127 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15599 times:
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Maybe not an upgrade, but I'd love to see MYR-DFW and ISP service come back with the merger

[Edited 2013-03-30 18:10:39]


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User currently offlineANA787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 15514 times:

Maybe PDX-JFK and PDX-MIA.

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3073 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 15199 times:

I'd like to see a return of SJC-JFK and SJC-BOS, but unfortunately am not holding my breath.

Likewise, with the A319 I'd like to see DFW-OAK, DFW-BUR, DFW-LGB, DFW-BFL, DFW-SBA, DFW-BOI, DFW-GEG and a seasonal DFW-BLI. But again, I'm not holding my breath.


User currently offlinestevemat11 From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 15140 times:

ISP would be interesting. I hear PenAir is to start service back on the old Eagle route(from BizEx), ISP-BOS. With US feed flying PHL and DCA, maybe post merger ISP will see more service.

User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3298 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 15064 times:

Still waiting on AUS-MIA...many years later.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlinelat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 15040 times:

Perhaps AA will look at returning to PVD as there was some rumbling in the past to that effect. A large pool of Southern NE population and businesses awaits. Given the battering AA has taken at BOS to the North, it may be a way to recapture lost passengers.

User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5431 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 15013 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 8):
Still waiting on AUS-MIA...many years later.

I was saying the same thing about SAN (to MIA) up until about a month ago, so don't give up -- keep the faith! I honestly expect AUS will be the next mainline route to be added from AA's S Florida hub.

bb


User currently offlineMiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 1120 posts, RR: 49
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 14999 times:
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I'm still waiting for AA to launch NRT-MIA.


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User currently offlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1924 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 14910 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 2):
Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 1):
Most probably not this summer, but at some point I'd love for AA mainline to return to CVG

I think the writing is on the wall for that. AA will soon have the critical mass to support mainline flights to basically every major market in the country, especially to overpriced legacy hubs like CVG where they won't have to undercut fares by much if at all...

You would think with 6-7 daily ERJ's on CVG-DFW it would be a prime candidate for an upgauge to mainline, but I've been waiting for quite a while, here's to hoping though!


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7560 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14534 times:

Quoting flyguy89 (Reply 12):
You would think with 6-7 daily ERJ's on CVG-DFW it would be a prime candidate for an upgauge to mainline, but I've been waiting for quite a while, here's to hoping though!

Maybe they may re-start the PHX-CVG route as well. That's a route that some people were trying to get US to start after DL cut it.



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User currently offlineaeroc From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 13832 times:

Any chance of a return of DFW-BUF/ROC/SYR?

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 13791 times:

Would love to see LAX-MSY or perhaps JFK-MSY for obvious reasons.

User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 13601 times:

For RDU, I could see the following..

DCA - from 15/16 daily to 8 daily mix of E70/319
LGA - Maintain 8 daily mixed E70/CR7/319
ORD - 4 to 5 daily MD80/319/CR7/E70 mix
LAX unchanged
CLT unchanged
PIT unchanged
PHL 319/738/CR7 mix
DFW MD80/321 mix
MIA unchanged
LHR unchanged
PHX return? 1x
JFK up to 5x CRJ/CR7 mix
LAS?



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2301 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 13599 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 8):
Still waiting on AUS-MIA...many years later.

Cheers,

Cameron

still can't believe this one has never been started. Hopefully soon!

I for one would just like to see at least one daily mainline flight to DFW from CID  


User currently offlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13231 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 6):
I'd like to see a return of SJC-JFK and SJC-BOS, but unfortunately am not holding my breath.

SJC-BOS youll never see unless AA drops its cornerstone strategy.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6436 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13126 times:

Quoting aeroc (Reply 14):

I know BUF had a DFW route------when was ROC-DFW & SYR-DFW operated?



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User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12971 times:
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I'd like to see DFW-RST return 1x daily ERJ, but I'd say it's unlikely. AA started the route in June of 2005 and I don't recall that it stuck around for a long time.


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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2924 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12932 times:

I'd like to see service to Lincoln, NE and Branson, MO, two markets I am somewhat surprised are missing from Eagle's midwestern network.

Going forward I hope the new AA expands away from their cornerstone strategy and adds some point to points back, such as SFO-BOS, SFO-STL, etc.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12818 times:

I would argue the cornerstone strategy is going to be even more utilized here.. uS cut most of their P2P routes under Parker and I could see the same with the new AA..

I predict the cornerstones will be:

DFW (LatAm gateway)
MIA (caribe SoAm gateway)
ORD (Midwest gateway)
LAX (pacific gateway)
CLT (southern hub)
PHL (northern gateway)
DCA (what I call the government hub)

Focus:
LGA (business markets)
JFK (international)
PHX (until eventual downgrade)



Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3749 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 12536 times:

AA left SBN for the second time in 2003 during the big STL downsizing (the first time in 2000 was to ORD).

I don't think SBN-ORD will return, and STL is no longer a hub, but an AA return to SBN in the form of SBN-DFW has been rumored almost since I joined a.net. Maybe the US merger will speed things up, but I wonder if AA is concerned about cannibalizing FWA-DFW (which does VERY well) if they reopen SBN.



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User currently offlinebrooklynchris13 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11052 times:

For my adopted hometown here in NYC, I see some pretty interesting possibilities once the merger is finalized and integration completed. LGA will probably see the most change as domestic frequencies currently taken up by smaller RJs and DH8s are upsized and redirected where possible to allow better slot utilization. A good example being LGA-PHL. Post merger, I could see that going down to six or so flights a day on larger RJs (If that many) with the other ten slots being used for domestic adds or expansion into more profitable routes where the 175s, 190s, 738s, and A321s will be able to be used to full advantage.

CMH is another example. Currently up to 6 R/Ts a day on mostly 135s and the occasional CR7 could be replaced by four or five CR7s/175 or perhaps a 190. Carried throughout the station, thats more than a few opportunities to build up LGA destinations with a fleet that (combined) will offer A/C sizes all the way from ERJ140/145 to B752. That would appear to be an opprtunity to give DL a good challenge for their money here in the NYC market, even if they can't quite beat them.



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25 adamh8297 : Will business routes BOS-SYR/MDT/PIT/RIC/ROC/BUF stay? Will seasonal and less than daily leisure routes BOS-CUN/PLS/MBJ/PUJ stay?
26 USAirALB : I'd like to see ORD-ALB/PVD make a return.
27 AVLAirlineFreq : Bring back DFW-AVL and start MIA-AVL. Please.
28 CairnterriAIR : BDL to ORD....please upgrade the E-135/145's to mainline aircraft!
29 BA0197 : Upguage IAH-ORD/LAX!!!!!!
30 AVENSAB727 : Nice!!! Upgauge to what aircraft though?
31 BA0197 : Anything mainline. I see Chicago going to a E175, Los Angeles really should be a 738. But I am the humble GA, what do I know about yields. I just thi
32 Post contains images commavia : I think you generally have it right, with the exception that DFW will never be the primary Latin American gateway - it will always be secondary to MI
33 cessna2 : Will be interesting to see what happens in RDU. With the big push by DL to become the dominant carrier can we expect a turf war? Assuming things stay
34 brooklynchris13 : Thanks for the positive feedback. I have finally had the chance to make a quick spreadsheet of destinations and frequencies from LGA to have some goo
35 commavia : I did a similar look, using the peak day schedules for this July, and found a grand total - combined - of 179 departures (114 AA + 65 US). By compari
36 brooklynchris13 : I think you are right on with the Possible Additions. IAH makes a great deal of sense and wasnt on my "imaginary list". A couple of other maybes: SDF
37 commavia : Honestly, I think most of those markets are either too competitive (MKE) or too small (all the others). AA/Eagle has already been flying LGA-CRW for
38 aeroc : The dates may be a little off but BUF had mainline DFW, when it started Im not 100% sure, but ended around the start of 2003 IIRC when Eagle took ove
39 LONGisland89 : In a related note. Where the hell are AA + US physically going to fit together @ LGA?
40 commavia : Very good question. I have no idea how that's going to happen. I suppose the "easiest" (relatively speaking) solution would be for UA and US to swap
41 DeltaXNA : I'd like to see ORD-ABQ/EWR/ELP return to mainline. EWR may be tough since their competition across the ramp has hubs at both ends. I'd also like to s
42 commavia : ABQ and ELP - maybe with A319s, but they may well stay as CR7s. EWR I think is much more likely to see the new E175s and maybe a mix of a few A319s d
43 dsuairptman : GPT to CLT/DFW on mainline GPT to ORD restablished with Ejets GPT to MIA launched.
44 Post contains links brooklynchris13 : From the "changes to come at LGA" news front, the PA has approved construction of a new parking garage in front of Terminal C to serve DL's operation
45 IrishAyes : There has been minimal discussion pertaining to transborder/international services so I thought I'd get the ball rolling on that one (since that's in
46 ckfred : Would AA upgauge ORD-PIT to mainline? Granted, PIT is no longer a US hub, but I would expect a number of US F/F flyers in western Pennsylvania are pro
47 cjpmaestro : As we head down the merger path, I'd love to see AA or JAL announce PHL-NRT.
48 oc2dc : I'm hoping we see some more expansion in Germany. Additional flights to FRA, perhaps from JFK. Also, with the new AB partnership, maybe we will see TX
49 lweber557 : Hopefully they bring back AUS - MIA. I don't think they'd have any trouble on it since B6 and WN fly AUS - FLL and they seem to do well on it.
50 mia305 : Is there any possibility AA will bring back mainline to HPN and start up SWF again? I know they had mainline to HPN and SWF back in the late 90' then
51 IrishAyes : Well, to be fair, you now have to look at the network in context of a merged AA-US, rather than from the existing cornerstone US hubs. My guess is th
52 bobloblaw : Isnt the A319 too big for HPN? I predict this doesnt work That could be a A319 candidate.
53 IrishAyes : We'll just have to wait and see, but I believe you're one of the few that feels that way. DFW-ICN is the largest O&D market between Texas and Asi
54 mia305 : I don't think the 319 is to big for HPN JetBlue flies a 320 from HPN to PBI.
55 Post contains images commavia : The two existing US PHL-Europe flights that I could definitely see shifting up to JFK would be GLA and the second FRA (both as 757s out JFK), plus po
56 mia305 : I'd love to see AA bring back all 763 on MIA-SFO route or maybe try a 777 on that. I know wishful thinking on the 777. But hey It would be nice.[Edite
57 IrishAyes : It would make far more business sense for AA to introduce its new A320 family series a/c on MIASFO with the 3-class cabin configured bird specificall
58 mia305 : I know as well AA had MIA-FRA in the mid to late 90's then dropped it. Not a new route. Hopefully they will bring it back. As well as ZRH and FCO.[Edi
59 mia305 : It's going to be a while when the 321's come to MIA as they will fly out of JFK. Until that time why not place all 763's on the route and capitalize
60 WA707atMSP : AA will also be able to fill up the back of the aircraft with military traffic flying from bases in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc to ICN. AA has found
61 tonytifao : Could we ever see MIA to CVG or SDF on mainline?
62 DeltaXNA : I agree there is barely a chance to see a 777 on this route. But unless you are including FLL in this, AA is alone on MIA-SFO. There is no nonstop co
63 Post contains images crAAzy : AA was considering MKE-LGA several years ago but then decided against competing with YX and started a MSN-LGA route. Hindsight being 20/20 they proba
64 HPRamper : I believe the local government has to give an exemption for an aircraft of that size. Not saying it wouldn't happen, but it's just another hoop to ju
65 jfklganyc : Likely not. You keep talking about reallocating JFK slots 1. To where? 2. They feed JFK flights. AA, DL, and B6 connect A LOT of people to the intern
66 jfk777 : Now that LAX, DFW and JFK have or soon will have the 777-300ER for LHR flights, when will Miami ? For LHR or GRU flights.
67 bobloblaw : I don't think the US merger increases the chances of SBN to DFW. I also don't think that SBN would impact FWA one bit. MLI, PIA, BMI and CMI all have
68 tan flyr : Though, in a realignment it might result in SBN-CLT. There is do doubt SBN could support at least 1 daily DFW as a part of an Eagle station..Actually
69 bobloblaw : I do think there is opportunity for CLT flights to smaller sized Midwestern cities. Certainly GRR should be the top of the list. CAT has a plant in N
70 9w748capt : Exactly - I'm sure there will regularly be lots of military pax connecting from OKC and LAW to ICN via DFW. No reason this route shouldn't do quite w
71 ouboy79 : I would think any AA or US station that only have 1 hub service now will likely move up to at least 2 hubs to take advantage of the new network. I se
72 ckfred : IIRC, the White Plains airport has a set number of passengers that they want going through on an hourly basis. When AA dropped the F100s on HPN-ORD a
73 mah4546 : On heavy frequency you're right, only those markets can support the likes of 7-15x daily 3-class service. To say the product doesn't work elsewhere i
74 FRAborn : Any chance we may see MKE-MIA?
75 WesternA318 : I wouldnt mind seeing LAX-SLC going to an MD-80 or 738...or perhaps an A319 when they come online.
76 SouthernDC9 : OKC-CLT was very randomly included in US's bid for the new DCA Air-21 slots, as a complement to the DCA-OKC service they seek to provide. That I know
77 Post contains images mia305 : I was wondering as well why did AA drop the SWF/ORD route. I believe at the time they were flying it it was doing good for them. It would be good for
78 Post contains links ouboy79 : Indeed it was. Well if US would win (though I don't think it is likely) the slots, they are going to want something else there to balance out just on
79 Post contains links oc2dc : AA/Eagle just announced they will be starting LAX-EUG. This is in addition to the recently announced LAX-RDM. These are two great adds for Oregon and
80 Post contains images OB1504 : While I disagree that MIA-SFO could support dedicated three-class service, you are entirely correct that the 763 fleet (with the notable exception of
81 LipeGIG : Big question is what AA plans to do with the 772 released from 77W upgauges. Just know about the ICN flight and potential developments with LAX-GRU. A
82 mia305 : Would AA be able to to start a LAX-SIN or would they leave that to one of their alliances?
83 bobloblaw : That would be STAR to STAR hub flying, so it would be difficult for a OW carrier to succeed on that.
84 mia305 : Thanx, I forgot about that. Would we be seeing AA metal on LAX-SYD or is that staying on QF metal.
85 bobloblaw : That would require a JV I think
86 FlyUS : Why would US discontinue BOS-SYR, ROC, BUF, RIC, CUN, MBJ, PUJ and PLS after the merger? They've been flying these routes for many years. The merger
87 commavia : I never suggested AA would fill their JFK-Europe flights on O&D alone. There would of course always be a connecting component. But my suggestion
88 mah4546 : AA and QF have a JBA. On the contrary, the merger makes the majority of US' network less profitable, and there will be plenty of cuts all over.
89 FlyUS : BOS for US is #2 for Dividend Miles members. I would guess AA has a huge BOS ff base. Why would a stronger BOS operation down grade or cut these citie
90 mia305 : It has been talked about here at MIA for a while about the MIA/AUS. What is AA waiting for to start that route? As mentioned before AA should start MI
91 mia305 : I know I'm probably going to get bashed for this. Would AA be inclined to upgrading certain flights to HNL to 772's? Or would that be to expensive to
92 bobloblaw : What is a JBA? How does adding US and AA together make the existing US network LESS profitable???
93 flyguy89 : The combined carrier's operating costs will be quite a bit higher than US's current cost structure.
94 JoePatroni707 : Never say never but 99.9% unlikely. For some reason AA has never "really liked" flying to Hawaii. They are there for a place to burn AAdvantage miles
95 Post contains images Longhornmaniac : To add on to Mark's explanation about why a stronger BOS operation would suffer, it's because even though there may be more elites, the additional co
96 ripcordd : DFW will prop see the 777 to HNL down the road they are all going 2 class like the 767 now serving Hawaii with Lie Flat seats. I love when people say
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