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Qantas And Emirates- And So It Begins  
User currently offlineHH65MAN From Australia, joined Feb 2013, 95 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 25874 times:
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A Qantas A380 flying in formation with a Emirates A380, aviation 1st?




Would have given my left testicle to have been there to see this.......

[Edited 2013-03-30 21:56:14]

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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5172 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 25906 times:

Quoting HH65MAN (Thread starter):
aviation 1st?

Yes, first ever formation A380 flying.



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User currently offlineMiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 887 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 25772 times:
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Fantastic shot! I'm happy for Emirates and Qantas. Know, I hope Qantas makes Emirates join Oneworld.


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User currently offlineaussiepomm From Australia, joined Mar 2011, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25782 times:

Here is one from the other side of the Harbour…

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8122/8604904628_c042b37e1b_b.jpg
EK QF Flyover II by AussiePomm, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8103/8603800585_0a31918ff7_b.jpg
EK QF Flyover by AussiePomm, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8265/8603799229_36ff10ec7c_b.jpg
EK QF Flyover City by AussiePomm, on Flickr



if my calculations are correct slinky + escalator = everlasting fun!
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4848 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25755 times:

I had the privilege to be there and witness it in person  http://i50.tinypic.com/2qa5pit.jpg

http://youtu.be/iFUypE9ZMUE

EK413



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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1869 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25719 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 1):
Yes, first ever formation A380 flying.

Not entirely accurate - Airbus did it earlier at one of the Paris air shows I believe: http://www.futura-sciences.com/galer...hotos/data/547/A380_formation3.jpg

However, it is first carrier-owned A380 formation flight.



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25565 times:

Now what was the reason for doing this? Is this their way of kicking off the new cooperation?

Quoting Miami (Reply 2):

Emirates is basically an alliance on its own. A huge airline with over 100 A380s in the fleet in the future.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25567 times:

So no more Singapore-London? Sad...... Why do they have to cut this route? They can keep it still....

User currently offlinemiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 887 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25549 times:
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Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):

Very true.

Now just sitting and wait for EK to launch MIA..



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User currently offlinecalvo747 From Australia, joined Dec 2012, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25499 times:

wish they had offered tickets for the fly over, is this the start of Qantas international being sold off or absorbed by Emirates

User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2948 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 25490 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
Now what was the reason for doing this? Is this their way of kicking off the new cooperation?

Today is the first day of the new JV, and QF's first flights to LHR via DXB (can't wait to see photos of QF in the EK lineup!).

Quoting United Airline (Reply 7):
So no more Singapore-London? Sad...... Why do they have to cut this route? They can keep it still....

No they can't. One of the big beneifts of the deal for EK is increased access to LHR, and QF doesn't have the traffic or the planes to do both DXB and SIN.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4848 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 25290 times:

The inaugural Qantas QF1 Sydney to London via Dubai service has taken off...

http://i49.tinypic.com/27wu5ci.jpg

EK413



Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 25269 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 11):
he inaugural Qantas QF1 Sydney to London via Dubai service has taken off

Best of luck to QF for choosing the easy way out with EK.



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5172 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 25224 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 7):
They can keep it still....
Quoting qf002 (Reply 10):
QF doesn't have the traffic or the planes to do both DXB and SIN.

What he said ^

Assuming that the 332s go domestic, QF is going to be stretched very thin between when the last of the non-9 744s leave and the 787s and new 388s arrive. SYD-SIN-LHR would tie up 3 aircraft that simply don't exist. Plus, they cut HKG-LHR and BKK-LHR for a reason, they're not going back to 3/4 daily flights in the foreseeable future, probably never.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4848 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 25114 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 12):
Best of luck to QF for choosing the easy way out with EK.

Perhaps you have a far better choice? From memory a number of European airlines have pulled out the Australasian route, KL, OS, NG, OA, LH, AZ just to name a few...

EK413



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User currently offlinetrent1000 From Japan, joined Jan 2007, 544 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 24861 times:

Qantas customers are paying hundreds of dollars more for flights to Europe compared with those who book the same flights through its new ally Emirates.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/e...frfq80-1226609578035#ixzz2P6OR7SPX


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4848 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 24795 times:

Quoting trent1000 (Reply 15):
Qantas customers are paying hundreds of dollars more for flights to Europe compared with those who book the same flights through its new ally Emirates.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/e...R7SPX

Yes, there are hiccups along the way and I'm sure these issues will be resolved with time...

EK413



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3113 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 24766 times:

Quoting HH65MAN (Thread starter):
Would have given my left testicle to have been there to see this

Not the right one?  



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5172 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 24746 times:

Quoting trent1000 (Reply 15):
Qantas customers are paying hundreds of dollars more for flights to Europe compared with those who book the same flights through its new ally Emirates.

I'm surprised it's taken this long for the media to sensationalise this. For a start, the article uses specific route/date to "prove" its point. I have personally seen what news.com.au reports, but also seen the opposite where QF have worked out cheaper.

More than anything else this is related to fare structures and inventory, not some malicious attempt by QF to price gauge customers. Not that I expect the media to report anything different, however  



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 24623 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 11):
The inaugural Qantas QF1 Sydney to London via Dubai service has taken off...

It was fun seeing QF1 over the Great Australian Bight of FlightRadar!

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 24563 times:
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Does anyone know why the DXB-LCA-MLA route is not part of the code share?  

User currently offlinekoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 24405 times:

My main issue with the tie-up is the loss of Premium Economy for the longer sector for all passengers not going to/from Sydney or Melbourne.

The increase in European ports is terrific, long overdue. But the self-funded premium leisure market is increasingly significant ex-Australia, and Qantas is conceding a very large chunk of it.


User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2346 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 24278 times:

“Dubai is the best hub for Qantas in the 21st century" -Alan Joyce

8 hours from 75% of the world's population...how is that relevant to Qantas! I'm not talking about 10 or even 50 pax a day...

              



oh boy!!!
User currently offlinezkokq From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 24194 times:

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 22):

Don't know if you know but qantas is in the business of moving lots of people over vast distances... EK has proved that Dubai is the best way for this to occur. And I can say having transferred through Dubai, it's amazing. And that was before the new concourse.


User currently offlineaussiepomm From Australia, joined Mar 2011, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 23699 times:

Quoting aussiepomm (Reply 3):
Here is one from the other side of the Harbour…

Since the original images have been updated, here are the replacements…

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8122/8604904628_2819796263_b.jpg
EK QF Flyover II by AussiePomm, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8103/8603800585_1479d41b95_b.jpg
EK QF Flyover by AussiePomm, on Flickr



if my calculations are correct slinky + escalator = everlasting fun!
25 Post contains images RyanairGuru : I'm really struggling to fidn what it is that you find amusing about that statement I agree 100% but don't understand what you mean? EK was the marke
26 Lofty : Why does everyone say how good DXB and EK is. Last year I had 2 separate relatives us EK and DXB as a transfer. Both have said they would never use EK
27 AirNiugini : Just got off a QF domestic flight from Townsville to Brisbane and the EK code is already in action at the TSV terminal... It was also interesting to s
28 RJA321 : I personally cannot wait to finally try Qantas between DXB and LHR, and on their A380 too! Best of luck to both airlines!
29 SCQ83 : I don't know why some OPs are so negative or even ironical with this JV. As much as I am not a fan or a hater of EK, out of curiosity, I was checking
30 Post contains links and images lightsaber : THE QANTAS tie-up with Emirates is producing solid returns, with the flying kangaroo's bookings from the alliance now six times what they were under t
31 qf002 : They've only just received antitrust clearance to collaborate on fares, so expect to see discrepancies level out of the next couple of weeks. The com
32 nclmedic : With all QF flights ex-LHR now flying to DXB what's likely to become of Qantas Cabin Crew UK Ltd., the UK based crew that have historically operated t
33 Post contains links planenutter : I believe this was the first formation flying of the A380? http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...dustrie/Airbus-A380-861/1167866/L/ planenutter
34 qf002 : In the long term (ie 5+ years and assuming there is an improvement in Europe's performance for QF), I think we're likely to see QF move their entire
35 Post contains links david_itl : nice comparison on travel saving times Sydney to London – 30 minutes faster Sydney to Manchester - 2hrs 15mins hrs faster Brisbane to Barcelona –
36 Post contains links mariner : I have little sympathy for those who say that this is Qantas throwing in the towel, because there is another number turned up, which is extremely int
37 rlwynn : What is with alcohol on Emirates?
38 lightsaber : A very premium part of the market. It is past due to cut the times. I'm surprised at the time cut SYD-LHR. There is about another half hour of flight
39 miami : This may be a silly question. But I've been hearing that Qantas will be leaving OneWorld. And if not, Emirates would join OneWorld. Is this true or fa
40 Post contains images jayeshrulz : I cannot say about the former, but the latter will never happen. EK will never join any alliance. Perhaps make their own alliance one day? Possible A
41 EK413 : I highly doubt it... The EK tie up is a separate deal, the OW alliance plays a key role in QFs international network operations; example DFW & SC
42 koruman : @RyanairGuru My point is that the two states in which leisure passengers are the most cashed-up - and therefore likely to buy Premium Economy tickets
43 ZEDZAG : I just saw that QF 5/6 SYD-SIN-FRA is still operating, wasn't there a word that its getting axed when this tie-up starts?
44 EK413 : Yes, it's being axed as of the 15th of April & retimed... EK413
45 Focker : Will QF remove Premium Economy from its 380's?
46 EK413 : Definitely not! Qantas have spent $$$ refurbishing the A380 & B744 (x9) fleet... EK413
47 Post contains images RyanairGuru : I'm sorry, but I think you will find that it is still NSW and VIC. The market is mostly retired investment bankers, partners in commercial law firms
48 koruman : Hi RyanairGuru I had a similar conversation with my parents, but at the time the cheapest Business Class to Europe was around $5.4K. They want more co
49 ek433 : I think that is highly unlikely, although as has been previously mentioned/suggested there is likely to be a Y/J only cabin config on some upcoming A
50 fiscal : From a FF redemption point of view, it seems that not many of EK's European destinations have been included, using EK direct flights to Dubai. This ma
51 ek433 : I think Emirates is having a few teething issues with their new website after integrating skywards.com into emirates.com because when I was playing a
52 PVG : I fly a lot like many people on here. Flying on EK through DXB, to put it bluntly: SUCKS! It used to be cheap, but no longer. I think that QF is goin
53 Post contains links QFVHOQA : According to the Brisbane Times: Alliance surge fuels Qantas I remember there was some talk of QF having half-full flights DXB-LHR as many pax would d
54 Lufthansa : There is something else a lot of you are forgetting that EK brings to the QF table. That is this by far dawfs and stops defection to virgin Australia'
55 lightsaber : Definitely looks like both are benefiting and with the fare cooperation now allowed, that will improve for both the revenue too. Understatement. EK w
56 SCQ83 : Is this completely metal-neutral? Would it be possible to fly i.e. LHR-DXB with Qantas and then DXB-XXX with Emirates (other than Australia)? I under
57 Lufthansa : And if they're in skywards, they'll then fly QF domestically, especially if its all on one ticket.
58 United Airline : Will HKG/SIN/BKK-LHR return one day? Do they still have the rights?
59 AirNiugini : Nope... DXB is the hub from here on in for Europe, the Mid East and Northern Africa... SIN and HKG will be QF and JQ's hubs in Asia for now.
60 EK413 : Agreed... This is just the beginning... EK413
61 sierra3tango : What sort of timings are QF's DXB/LHR/DXB? might give it a try Also are they considered 'OneWorld' flights for FF purposes?
62 Post contains images EK413 : Welcome to Dubai Qantas Australia's National carrier... EK413
63 SYDSpotter : Thanks for the pics, this must be the return sector from LHR? The flights from SYD/MEL get in around midnight local time don't they?
64 SYDSpotter : Having done a quick search of flights just then, QF actually have some pretty attractive timings from DXB-LHR, their flights get into LHR at 5.30am a
65 Post contains images EK413 : The SYD/MEL inbound flights arrive just after midnight so these photo's would be the LHR inbound flights EK413
66 sierra3tango : Good timing!! Yuck, Yuck and treble yuck. Who wants an overnight each way on a ~7 hr flight.I certainly won't use them (not with that schedule) but p
67 tayser : Slot times + times to arrive back in MEL/SYD... 10:30pm departure LHR arr MEL at 6:30am (+2).
68 EK413 : More than likely the same reason BA have a B744 sitting around in SYD for 12+, scheduling due to LHR curfew and vice versa for QF SYD curfew... EK413
69 nickofatlanta : [quote=sierra3tango,reply=66][/quote They sit on the ground for the same reason they do in LA and FRA - to offer timings that are appealing to busines
70 zkokq : The same as most airlines. Plenty to drink of the most popular stuff. I enjoyed plenty of Jack and Grey Goose from SYD-DXB
71 SYDSpotter : They're not great connections for the majority of us, but perfect for business travellers. They get into LHR first thing in the morning which allows
72 koruman : SYDspotter, A couple of times each year I fly from Australia to the UK on business, in business class. But it's not like JFK-LHR. I wouldn't dream of
73 SYDSpotter : Might be useless to you but that's what the wider market demands. Have a look at CX, SQ, MH etc and their key flights from Oz-LHR are all timed to ar
74 RyanairGuru : These are pretty special fairs, if they exist on (or around) your dates then they're fantastic otherwise heigh-ho... Obviously they are useless to bu
75 koruman : SYDspotter, I think you'll find that early LHR arrivals are more curfew-related than a reflection of demand. I've gone to work meetings in London stra
76 SYDSpotter : You'll also find that the early morning arrival slots at LHR happen to be the most valuable as well. You might not go into work straight off your fli
77 Focker : Why is that mind boggling? I was just wondering as EK does not offer Premium Economy, how this will work out? Say I want to fly SYD-MAN, preferably i
78 sierra3tango : Somewhere up thread there was some talk of QF flights flying DXB/LHR sectors half empty because so many PAX had got off in DXB to join other EK fligh
79 ZuluAlpha : I have been advised that the QF Cabin Crew UK base recently advertised arabic speaking flight attendants. The advertisement was internal only, I do n
80 3rdGen : So what happens to QF and Oneworld? Its a little strange that they are in this JV with Emirates and in an alliance with QR.
81 Auchmithie : So this means that seven times more passengers are through-ticketing from Emirates services onto Qantas Domestic. It certainly doesn't mean that thes
82 Post contains images mariner : Hmmm? Presumably it is the quantifiable number. mariner
83 Lufthansa : Very interesting. I was wondering how this would work. Especially up the front, because with some of the current price differences its a little hard
84 ZuluAlpha : Yes it is a little strange, but have a look from another alliance, EY and AB have a very close codeshare relationship, AB are a member of oneworld al
85 FlyboyOz : Try to work out whether the planes would be full in summer time...
86 EK413 : Certainly is strange, but its common these days... Qantas formed an Alliance with EK, & partnership deal with MU (Sky) to form JQ Hong Kong &
87 3rdGen : So will we see the current state of partnerships and alliances continue or is it a matter of time before there is some reshuffling?
88 EK413 : Before we get sidetracked from the original topic, to answer your question my personal opinion AB won't last in OW... Considering EY is a shareholder
89 QFVHOQA : Not to mention AB also now codeshares with AF/KL. I doubt QF will codeshare with QR, considering they also don't codeshare with CX or S7. Prior to th
90 jrfspa320 : While I can see the merits of joining with EK, I do think EK benefit more than QF especially by gaining extra slots and rights to LHR and Europe. I do
91 gemuser : What extra slots & rights to Europe do EK gain from the deal with QF? See up thread but QF seemed to have gained substantial traffic already beca
92 qf002 : They're good for people travelling to/from DXB, but pretty ordinary for people flying straight through from Australia. The trip over Asia allows one
93 Lufthansa : I second that, this gives them the chance to make a strategic hit, in depth in a way the previously had basically already lost. This out moves the do
94 EK413 : I third that, strategically this has placed QF in position with potential to return to Europe once their back in the black in 2015/16... By then hope
95 mariner : I fourth it - LOL. It's that I don't understand why "more Europe" is considered so desirable by so many. mariner
96 L0VE2FLY : And it was weird seeing Qantas birds overfly the Persian Gulf, Kuwait & Iraq.
97 nickofatlanta : Agree re AB not lasting in oneworld. Just read a report that AB is going to start code sharing on VA flights SYD-AUH.
98 multimark : Yes, because the Australian gov't rolled over and let the EK trojan horse in, now you've got a rump flag carrier.
99 mariner : Emirates is just an airline - competently managed and consistently profitable, unlike most of the airlines on EK413's list. It isn't a Cookie Monster
100 QFVHOQA : Why shouldn't the Australian government allow EK access? QF is not government owned so should be allowed to stand or fall on it's own (though if this
101 BenSandilands : Emirates has brought far more to Australia than it has taken. In the late 90s, after LH and then its Condor leisure brand had quit the Germany-Austral
102 Post contains links mariner : I thought the ACCC agreed with the Qantas position on Europe: http://www.smh.com.au/business/clear...-decline-claim-20130327-2gtfs.html "In its repor
103 BenSandilands : The devil is as always in the detail. I think the SMH oversimplified on this occasion. The ACCC specifically rejected the failing business argument, t
104 mariner : Maybe the SMH did, but I have read the ACCC papers (I posted the actual ACCC determination in another thread) and I don't think there is a lot of roo
105 BenSandilands : Mariner, The grounding cost $196 million and seriously mislead and inconvenienced many passengers. It would not have cost Qantas anything like $196 mi
106 mariner : I'm fully aware of the numbers and I believe it was one of the most crucial decisions Mr. Joyce has made. It dramatically - and essentially - rewrote
107 zkokq : Hi Ben, While I wasn't flying that day, even if I had of been I would have still understood the situation. Wasn't the disruptions hurting forward boo
108 Post contains images EK413 : Based on your comments I can only assume your not a fan of a well managed international icon... Are you criticising the management of OA & AZ EK4
109 koruman : It cost $196 million. I was a QF high tier frequent flyer, and was looking for a new home as Air NZ removed the most compelling elite benefits. But I
110 zkokq : Hi Koruman, I enjoy what you post, but. While it cost $190million now, what could it have cost in the future if Alan just sat back and let these rolli
111 EK413 : I was one of them & he certainly earned my respect... EK413
112 BenSandilands : Hi zkokq That's not what I was arguing . I was saying Joyce could have achieved the same result and saved $196 million and the angst it caused custom
113 zkokq : Hi Ben, Do you think he would have been taken seriously if he didn't close the airline? I think it was more the fact he needed to prove how serious h
114 OzGlobal : So this is supposed to make my life easier as a QF frequent flyer, giving me access to new benefits and options of the alliance. I see NONE. Unless th
115 zkokq : Fares are going to be realigned in the coming weeks as has been said many times in various threads.
116 RyanairGuru : You were, and I sincerely apologise to you if I made it personal Including this former union supporter. Yes, you're about a week early. You've got to
117 Lufthansa : Ahhh Mariner spot on once again! First of all, let me take this opportunity to welcome the Great Ben Sandilands to our community. That being said, Be
118 qf002 : You're just jealous that competition means our airfares are cheaper than yours... By taking such drastic action, QF was able to publicly seize contro
119 Post contains images mariner : People say that now, usually as a stick to beat Joyce, but I don't think anyone can say what might have been. By that time, the campaign against Joyc
120 ElPistolero : By your logic, AC is a rump carrier, seeing as its as heavily dependent on LH for some destinations as QF is dependent on EK. A remarkably daft post.
121 Post contains links and images RyanairGuru : I agree 100%. In hindsight it is easy to say that it wasn't necessary, but that forgets how close we were to the proverbial edge. One would have dest
122 BenSandilands : Hi to Lufthansa, qf002 and all, Sometimes I end up in a tight space with no internet so apologies for not being able to respond to your kind words, or
123 Post contains images HH65MAN : I must admit that after 121 posts concerning this topic it certainly has made for a fascinating read. And that after looking at my original photo post
124 zkokq : Bit off topic, but the point you make about AC is very valid, and I feel some Canadians are naive about the whole Middle Eastern Situation into Canad
125 RyanairGuru : Unfortunately I wouldn't hold your breath. El Pistolero is, very admirably I might add, fighting something off a one man stand on the Canadian thread
126 Post contains links mariner : Now that the dust has died down, I thought I'd take a look at actual ACCC determination again - my first reading was as an immediate overview, now I l
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