cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8628 posts, RR: 53 Posted (3 years 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 19528 times:
Hope this doesn't breach rules, I have no affiliation with this venture but thought you guys should know - ATI might operate a passenger flight in the USA (SMF to LAS is the most likely route) with a DC-8 before the type is retired forever in the middle of 2013.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 12148 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 19389 times:
Oh that's tempting, $1500 is steep, but what an experience!
Pretty harsh requirements about putting your name down mind, takes me right out as I already have a bunch of meetings during the period. I could re-arrange them, but I can't just blanket out my availability for a whole period like that until a date is decided.
...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4573 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 19180 times:
yeah seems a bit amateuristic organization...perhaps Classic Jet Tours should repeat a trip like that again. They write '90% sure' but no fines or fees when you back out... Also they don't seem to sell the middle seats? I am willing to promise not to occupy a window longer then a few minutes inflight if it lowers my ticket price. It was no problem at all at Seans flight last year that all seats were taken, people could and did stroll around in the cargo bay and kitchen so there was plenty of window time for everyone.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Did your DC-8 flight have just 32 seats in the aft section of the plane with the majority being cargo between the passenger cabin and the cockpit? I haven't flown on them but several years ago they let me check out the 32 seat passenger cabin.
I wish their DC-8's had the Palomar seats and curtains. Those were the classic DC-8's. I flew on two of them as a kid on Eastern and Delta.
HAWAIIAN932 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 17514 times:
Back in the late 60's I flew a Delta DC-8 from LAX to SAN. One-way ticket price was $ 7.62. Amazing !! I also got to fly Hawaiian DC-8 from LAX to Kahului in the early 90's. My only other DC-8 flight was with Braniff International from LAX to SFO. I loved flying those old birds. I was lucky enough to fly 707's also. American, Western and Caribbean Airways. I also got to fly the 720 version a few times. Once with Western and once with Continental LAX-Hilo in 1973.
tonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1994 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15413 times:
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 6): Wow, that's a rapid decrease even in the past few years. Anyone know how many civilian 707s are left in service?
Yes indeed. It was only a few years ago when there were still a surprisingly large number of DC-8s in service (something on the order of 50) comfortable outnumbering the number of in service B707s at the time. Douglas certainly did know how to build them to last. They used to visit SNN on a resonably regular basis, normally transporting race horses if I'm not mistaking. I think like so many of the classics that outlived their original intended useful lifespan the recent hike in fuel prices that we've all accepted is here to stay not to mention how diffucult it must be to come by spares these days has finally caught up with these birds. I'd say the DC-10 will follow pretty soon.
That is why I am sooooo thankful FX brings the -10 into ROC during evening daylight ! I always try to run down and get some shots when work and the sun cooperate. Soon enough they will be replaced by the 763's .
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SEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 7521 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13334 times:
I have flown three times on a DC-8, and frankly the most vivid recollection I have is the disappointing lack of windows. I once had a window seat, only to discover that it was useless as the seat was aligned with a blank wall. While I appreciate the ruggedness of the DC-8, I certainly would not pay $1500 to fly on one.
The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
MD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 13159 times:
Man, I'd love to go, but there's no way. Not only is $ 1,500.00 a little steep, I'd also have to fly from Miami to Sacramento to catch the DC-8-62. Plus I'd have to schedule it well in advance, not knowing the dates for the charter is a problem. Too bad, that's the only DC-8 size I haven't flown.
I got to fly DC-8s with Eastern (-21, -51, -61), Delta (-51,-61,-71), Viasa (-52 or -53, -63), KLM (-52 or -53) and Capitol (-61). A great airplane for sure.
MrBuzzcut From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11829 times:
Wow, the ticket price if you were paying your own way (which rarely happened) for HNL-AWK or AWK-HNL was $1360 on ATI just a couple of years ago, and that's a 4.5 hour trip. No way I'd pay $1500.
So, if you want a DC-8 ride, get a job at AWK soon, before ATI retires the type...I think they're still operating a between Hickam and Kwaj as well, though I'm not totally sure about that one.
It is a nice ride, and the crews are friendly and attentive. There was even hot meal service
longhauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 6004 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11541 times:
Even though he said "irregardless", it would be an attractive offer for someone who had never flown on a DC-8, and this likely would be the last opportunity.
It has been many decades since a Palomar equipped DC-8 carried passengers. I am trying to figure out when the last Palomar DC-8 flew, any guesses? By my best guess, AC's last one carried passengers in 1977/78.
Just because I stopped arguing, doesn't mean I think you are right. It just means I gave up!
PI4EVER From United States of America, joined May 2009, 706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11419 times:
The March 2013 issue of Airliner World has a report on the May 2012 trip this organization made on the ATI DC-8 trip SMF-LGB. All 30 seats were supposedly sold out on the first day of sale, and yes the center seats were occupied. "California Dreaming DC-8 Style" begins on page 56 with a well written narrative with pictures.
Airliner World is sold at Barnes & Noble.
StudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10657 times:
Quoting zippyjet (Reply 8): Did your DC-8 flight have just 32 seats in the aft section of the plane with the majority being cargo between the passenger cabin and the cockpit?
Yup- just 32 seats. As far as I can remember- all the ATI flights on/off the island were those birds.
The only 'all pax' stuff I saw was the monthly 'rotator' (a North American 767) and the quarterly A-340 from Philippines Airlines.
Classic planes, Classic trains, and Studebakers~~ what else is there???