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DC-8 Passenger Flight In 2013  
User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8061 posts, RR: 54
Posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17725 times:

Hope this doesn't breach rules, I have no affiliation with this venture but thought you guys should know - ATI might operate a passenger flight in the USA (SMF to LAS is the most likely route) with a DC-8 before the type is retired forever in the middle of 2013.

Nothing confirmed but register your interest here -
http://www.henrytenby.com/DC-8charter.html


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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7458 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17624 times:

Quoting cedarjet (Thread starter):
before the type is retired forever in the middle of 2013.

I was reading in the latest Airliner World that there are only 14 DC8's left in service world-wide.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11617 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17586 times:

Oh that's tempting, $1500 is steep, but what an experience!

Pretty harsh requirements about putting your name down mind, takes me right out as I already have a bunch of meetings during the period. I could re-arrange them, but I can't just blanket out my availability for a whole period like that until a date is decided.


Dan  



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17377 times:

yeah seems a bit amateuristic organization...perhaps Classic Jet Tours should repeat a trip like that again. They write '90% sure' but no fines or fees when you back out... Also they don't seem to sell the middle seats? I am willing to promise not to occupy a window longer then a few minutes inflight if it lowers my ticket price. It was no problem at all at Seans flight last year that all seats were taken, people could and did stroll around in the cargo bay and kitchen so there was plenty of window time for everyone.


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User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1003 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17327 times:

It's tempting, especially since this would be local for me, but $1500 is a little too steep for me...

User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4963 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 16991 times:

And they don't even have the Polomar seats! Gotta have those for the whole experience.


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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3000 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 16910 times:

Quoting United_fan (Reply 1):
I was reading in the latest Airliner World that there are only 14 DC8's left in service world-wide.

Wow, that's a rapid decrease even in the past few years. Anyone know how many civilian 707s are left in service?


User currently offlineStudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16819 times:

I'm good. I've flown on one of those birds twice already~

The first flight was from Singapore to Diego Garcia.
The second was on my return just shy of a year later.

It was something alright!!!




StudeDave



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16727 times:

Quoting StudeDave (Reply 7):

Did your DC-8 flight have just 32 seats in the aft section of the plane with the majority being cargo between the passenger cabin and the cockpit? I haven't flown on them but several years ago they let me check out the 32 seat passenger cabin.
I wish their DC-8's had the Palomar seats and curtains. Those were the classic DC-8's. I flew on two of them as a kid on Eastern and Delta.


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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16727 times:

Thankfully I got to fly the DC-8 many times across the North Atlantic.

Flying through turbulence and watching the engines bob up and down.

If you can afford it, and have the time, GO!



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16688 times:

Quoting FI642 (Reply 9):

Did you ever get to fly on the classic DC-8's, the one with the Palomar seats and curtains on the windows?



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User currently offlineHAWAIIAN932 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day ago) and read 15711 times:

Back in the late 60's I flew a Delta DC-8 from LAX to SAN. One-way ticket price was $ 7.62. Amazing !! I also got to fly Hawaiian DC-8 from LAX to Kahului in the early 90's. My only other DC-8 flight was with Braniff International from LAX to SFO. I loved flying those old birds. I was lucky enough to fly 707's also. American, Western and Caribbean Airways. I also got to fly the 720 version a few times. Once with Western and once with Continental LAX-Hilo in 1973.

User currently offlineLCYFlyer From Germany, joined Oct 2007, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day ago) and read 15533 times:

Awesome! It's a shame that I can not come along as my finals will be by the end on june.
Thumbs up for taking the time to organize this special flight.



Cheers, Pierre
User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 20 hours ago) and read 13610 times:
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Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 6):
Wow, that's a rapid decrease even in the past few years. Anyone know how many civilian 707s are left in service?

Yes indeed. It was only a few years ago when there were still a surprisingly large number of DC-8s in service (something on the order of 50) comfortable outnumbering the number of in service B707s at the time. Douglas certainly did know how to build them to last. They used to visit SNN on a resonably regular basis, normally transporting race horses if I'm not mistaking. I think like so many of the classics that outlived their original intended useful lifespan the recent hike in fuel prices that we've all accepted is here to stay not to mention how diffucult it must be to come by spares these days has finally caught up with these birds. I'd say the DC-10 will follow pretty soon.



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7458 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 12760 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 13):
I'd say the DC-10 will follow pretty soon

That is why I am sooooo thankful FX brings the -10 into ROC during evening daylight ! I always try to run down and get some shots when work and the sun cooperate. Soon enough they will be replaced by the 763's .



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User currently offlineSJCMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 12410 times:

Wow, that would be cool! My last DC-8 flight was in 1987. It was a UA flight ORD-SJC. I flew that route on DC-8s several times as a kid in the early 80s.

User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6837 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 11531 times:

I have flown three times on a DC-8, and frankly the most vivid recollection I have is the disappointing lack of windows. I once had a window seat, only to discover that it was useless as the seat was aligned with a blank wall. While I appreciate the ruggedness of the DC-8, I certainly would not pay $1500 to fly on one.


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User currently offlineMD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 909 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 11356 times:

Man, I'd love to go, but there's no way. Not only is $ 1,500.00 a little steep, I'd also have to fly from Miami to Sacramento to catch the DC-8-62. Plus I'd have to schedule it well in advance, not knowing the dates for the charter is a problem. Too bad, that's the only DC-8 size I haven't flown.

I got to fly DC-8s with Eastern (-21, -51, -61), Delta (-51,-61,-71), Viasa (-52 or -53, -63), KLM (-52 or -53) and Capitol (-61). A great airplane for sure.

Cheers, Ralph



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User currently offlineMrBuzzcut From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 10026 times:

Wow, the ticket price if you were paying your own way (which rarely happened) for HNL-AWK or AWK-HNL was $1360 on ATI just a couple of years ago, and that's a 4.5 hour trip. No way I'd pay $1500.
So, if you want a DC-8 ride, get a job at AWK soon, before ATI retires the type...I think they're still operating a between Hickam and Kwaj as well, though I'm not totally sure about that one.

It is a nice ride, and the crews are friendly and attentive. There was even hot meal service


User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4915 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 9738 times:

Even though he said "irregardless", it would be an attractive offer for someone who had never flown on a DC-8, and this likely would be the last opportunity.

It has been many decades since a Palomar equipped DC-8 carried passengers. I am trying to figure out when the last Palomar DC-8 flew, any guesses? By my best guess, AC's last one carried passengers in 1977/78.



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User currently offlinePI4EVER From United States of America, joined May 2009, 655 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 9616 times:
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The March 2013 issue of Airliner World has a report on the May 2012 trip this organization made on the ATI DC-8 trip SMF-LGB. All 30 seats were supposedly sold out on the first day of sale, and yes the center seats were occupied. "California Dreaming DC-8 Style" begins on page 56 with a well written narrative with pictures.
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User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 8884 times:

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 3):
perhaps Classic Jet Tours should repeat a trip like that again

Seems like there's more than adequate demand and, as long as the ATI plane can be chartered, seems like it could be a win-win for everyone.


User currently offlineStudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 14 hours ago) and read 8854 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 8):
Did your DC-8 flight have just 32 seats in the aft section of the plane with the majority being cargo between the passenger cabin and the cockpit?


Yup- just 32 seats. As far as I can remember- all the ATI flights on/off the island were those birds.
The only 'all pax' stuff I saw was the monthly 'rotator' (a North American 767) and the quarterly A-340 from Philippines Airlines.




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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7458 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 13 hours ago) and read 8489 times:

Now if it were a 727 or 747SP......  


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24917 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 6682 times:

Quoting HAWAIIAN932 (Reply 11):
Back in the late 60's I flew a Delta DC-8 from LAX to SAN. One-way ticket price was $ 7.62.

$7.62 in the 1960s is equivalent to $50 to $60 today with inflation.


25 cedarjet : According to the organiser, the aircraft will be grounded when it runs out of hours sometime before the end of July (June is more likely) before a hea
26 ImperialEagle : This sounds like a great opportunity for those who have never experienced an -8. There is nothing quite like them. At least the -62 is an original mod
27 b2319 : It would be MUCH easier to fly as a passenger in 2013. Trust me. B-2319
28 beechnut : I flew on a Palomar DC-8 in either Dec. 81 or Jan. 82. I can't recall which, as it was over the Christmas holidays, and I don't recall if I came home
29 MrBuzzcut : From what I understand, that's what they've been doing with all of the combis...retire them as they come up for their next HMV (which is why their 70
30 maxpower1954 : I wouldn't call the DC-8-63 a beast - more like a Mack truck. I flew DC-8s of all sizes almost 5,000 hours - it was my first jet. As far as tail stri
31 802flyguy : In 1988, I flew on Faucett Peru from Lima to Cuzco roundtrip. Ex UAL DC-8 both ways, complete with Palomar seats (and UAL logos next to the reading l
32 United_fan : I meant spending the $1500 part. Though neither are in abundance anymore. Geez,I remember when we would get 727's everyday in ROC.
33 cedarjet : Latest news is Henry Tenby only had 20 sign-ups, so it looks like the flight won't happen. He needed 32. If you know 12 people who would like to fly o
34 spinkid : haha, that was my first reaction upon seeing that word as well. $1500 is still pretty steep, but I appreciate them putting up the effort.
35 Viscount724 : It couldn't possibly have been a CP DC-8 with the original Palomar seats in 1981/82. Those seats disappeared around 1973/74 when all CP's short-body
36 cubastar : We used to get a good many passenger comments on those engines on the -51's and -61-s. They truly wallowed and bounced around in even light turbulenc
37 Viscount724 : But much less than on 707s. Engines on 707s seemed to have very flexible pylon structures. The DC-8 engines in turbulence seemed stiff in comparison
38 LCYFlyer : So any news on this?
39 Dazed767 : Email I got from him over the weekend, only 21 interested and needed 40 interested to proceed, so looks like a no go.
40 milesrich : My last Palomar Seat DC-8 flight was on United in 1979. Delta retired the last of their DC-8-51 in 1981 and they all had Palomar Seats. Does the Unit
41 Post contains images United727 : I just sent a request for information to the museum to get your answer. Funny thing is, that plane IS NOT listed on the museums active aviation displ
42 Post contains images beechnut : You're probably right. It's been, after all, 31 years so my memory probably fails me. But for sure the return flight was on a short-bodied 8 (outboun
43 longhauler : Any possibility you have pictures of this conversion?
44 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : Unfortunately not, but I found an item on this Flight International page from October 1972 re the conversion: http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/
45 United727 : I have your answer! According to the museum: Yes, the DC-8 was re-positioned when the former Armory Building was remodeled to become the Science Cent
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