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Why Don't Any US Airports Have Glass Jetbridges?  
User currently offlinemiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 888 posts, RR: 42
Posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 16617 times:
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To me personally it's weird that none of the US Airports have glass jetways.

Does anyone know why US Airports don't have glass jetbridges?

It's weird that the new TBIT at LAX doesn't have glass jetways. Same with MIA's Concourse J and SFO's Terminal 2 for example.

Thanks for your replies!     


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7180 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16553 times:

From what I heard it was to save money and for security related reasons. Not sure the specs but I'm assuming they don't want anyone breaking the glass out and jumping in the airfield  


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User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16507 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):

Exactly. Also it would probably be to costly to repair it every time it cracks or breaks.


User currently offlineswafa27 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 49 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16516 times:

Ontario Intl (KONT) has a few glass jetways at both Terminal 2 and 4. They are pretty cool to board with, although they do get warm in the summer


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User currently offlineJU068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16475 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
Quoting mia305 (Reply 2):

Yes because in other places it occurs so often. Plus, if this reason was valid then I am sure other airports would be reluctant to introduce them.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16439 times:

Quoting swafa27 (Reply 3):

Must have not paid attention as I never saw any glass jetbridges at ONT when I flew out of there last month.



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User currently offlinemia305 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16425 times:

All I was saying was when and if it does happen it would "probably be to costly".
I never said it happens a lot nor did I say it was the exact reason.


User currently offlineMcoov From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 128 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16413 times:

Because no one cares. Liverys are one thing (which a number of people have been saying don't matter to the travelling public; they do), but a jetway with glass walls instead of metal is simply not a concern for most people, and is more expensive for the installer (installation, keeping it clean, repair, etc.) One only spends a minute or two in a jetway anyways unless something is significantly wrong, or you work with one.

More glass jetways will appear when terminals are fully rebuilt, as it's the current design trend (like Art Deco was during the 1920s and 1930s), but only then.


User currently offlineSWAFA27 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 49 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16378 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 5):

They're the middle gates that are equipped with them at both terminals



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1843 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16367 times:
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Per NFPA 415 Federal regulations
"There shall be no transparent or translucent walls, windows, or surfaces, other than those windows located in the ramp access service door and in the cab area for the purpose of operating the aircraft loading walkway."



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User currently offlinesulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 524 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16344 times:

Amarillo (AMA) actually has a new terminal with glass jet bridges.


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7180 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16343 times:

Quoting JU068 (Reply 4):
Yes because in other places it occurs so often. Plus, if this reason was valid then I am sure other airports would be reluctant to introduce them.

I was being sarcastic.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 9):
"There shall be no transparent or translucent walls, windows, or surfaces, other than those windows located in the ramp access service door and in the cab area for the purpose of operating the aircraft loading walkway."

/thread



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16343 times:

Quoting SWAFA27 (Reply 8):

I boarded from gate 403, so that might explain why I missed them.



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User currently offlineADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1358 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16226 times:

Per this thread: The US's Culture & Glass Jet Bridges (by Independence76 Oct 9 2012 in Civil Aviation) SBA a glass jetway.

User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 16121 times:

The new terminal at SGF has glass jetbridges...


Meanwhile, somewhere 35,000 ft above your head...
User currently offlineAusA380 From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 16042 times:

ADL airport all air bridges are glass - great views when walking off the plane. Australia has very high building safety standards so I don't see it is a real safety issue. Doesn't appear to have been a maintenance issue there either.

User currently offlinebkircher From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15943 times:

The new SBA terminal has glass jetways.

User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9149 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15915 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 9):
"There shall be no transparent or translucent walls, windows, or surfaces, other than those windows located in the ramp access service door and in the cab area for the purpose of operating the aircraft loading walkway."

sounds like the eleventh commandment.

Did anyone tell the FAA that there is glass which an ordinary person cannot break just like that?

The cost argument I can understand in a country where most airports are run by the municipalities, but security? Those who can walk through glass can walk through concrete and metal as well. But Robocop and the like would not pass the TSA screening, or would they?



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User currently offlineAA7295 From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 15836 times:

It's for fire safety reasons - both internal (say a fire breaks inside the aerobridge, less chance it spreading outside where there is fuel-loaded aircraft) and external (say a fire occurs outside, less chance penetrating inside the building.

User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9149 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 15797 times:

Glass fills all these security requirements, otherwise it would not be used for the purpose. If fire protection would be a valid argument, there would not be any glass windows at anyairport.

As said, the only valid argument is cost.



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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3177 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 15648 times:

Gatwick has a wopping great bridge.


Unfortunately, heat is seldom a problem in the UK.  



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User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 15628 times:

It is to do with the US Fire code ..must allow for X number of mins in the event of a ramp fuel fire. so the pax can deplane and get inside the terminal....Im sure there is a way to have fireproof glass but that add Thousands per bridge, also some pax may be "scared" to walk though the jetbridge when they see the fire.. some of our US fire code experts can explain better..

User currently offline727tiger From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 15008 times:

Quoting Caspian27 (Reply 14):
The new terminal at SGF has glass jetbridges...

Partially. The SGF jet bridges are glassed in from the terminal to the ramp service towers, then standard metal from there out to the boarding threshold:



User currently offlineczbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 971 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 14880 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 9):

Per NFPA 415 Federal regulations
"There shall be no transparent or translucent walls, windows, or surfaces, other than those windows located in the ramp access service door and in the cab area for the purpose of operating the aircraft loading walkway."

Wow. Clearly, the US government is waaaay too big and intrusive. What a great argument for making the government smaller. Is there really a need to be concerned about this? (It's a non-partisan comment, so no political digs. We're not in non-av.   )


User currently offlinexcoaster1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks ago) and read 14590 times:

Here's a shot of KAMA's from inside SWA 737:

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25 ckfred : I see the point about fire safety. I would also imagine that with the propensity for many parts of the country to see high winds, severe thunderstorm
26 deltairlines : SBA has them in their new terminal.
27 Post contains links flashmeister : See this article from the National Fire Protection Agency for more on these standards. I was surprised to learn that the metal jetbridges have to with
28 Post contains links WALmsp : Here are a couple pics of SBA's jetways being installed: http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=55425&showcomments=T
29 9lflyguy : GRK has a glass jetbridge. We used it at Colgan once when the ramp was full.
30 rojo : Yup. I was in AMA last month and all jet bridges are glass. Beautiful terminal for an airport in the middle of nowhere... LOL
31 airbusaddict : FSD has one glass jet-bridge, and I think plans are to at some point get more. It's basically the same jet-bridge that AMA has (the one that xcoaster1
32 USAirALB : At ALB, WN uses a dual-jetbridge system, with one, standard jetbridge for the front of the plane, and a glass jetbridge to the rear of the plane. It's
33 B747forever : Just came to think about if LAX had glass jetbridges spotters at Imperial Hill would be able to see PAX boarding the airplane. That would have been fu
34 Post contains images AirlineCritic : ... the real reason is that the airport design was finished in the 1950's, and since there has not been any reason for interior, exterior, materials o
35 nkops : ACY has the same exact set up on 2 of their gates (5 and 6)
36 Post contains images lightsaber : That was my first concern. Cost. Fixing the seals on the windows (on a movable assembly) and the cleaning. I concur. But dang it: Our government has
37 jcded : Just to clear a few things. NFPA is not a US Government Agency, it is a private association that writes recommendations, what they write has no force
38 Viscount724 : Answer is very simple. They cost more and require more maintenance. For example, windows require cleaning. And passengers only want to board and depla
39 Boeing717200 : This. You can have an extension that is glass with no issues, but the unit that contacts the aircraft cannot be unless it can withstand a burn for a
40 QatarA340 : I think its a bigger fire hazard if the walls were NOT GLASS. If there's a fire and there are glass walls, at least you could smash the glass to escap
41 Post contains links and images N328KF : PAE: [Edited 2013-04-03 15:36:04]
42 Boeing717200 : Takes longer to heat steel than it does glass, plus you can't see the fire which makes you more likely to keep moving. These two issues are why the N
43 czbbflier : Thank you. Learned something. It's a relief that it's not "the government" after all. Another interesting factoid. Thanks. Actually, glass jetways wo
44 tharanga : the NFPA is not the US government. it is the professional association of fire protection people. correct. to be fair, the federal government can also
45 Post contains images lightsaber : That is a NICE jetbridge! Oops. I feel foolish. But their recommendations probably help set insurance rates... That too. But I think insurance rates
46 rfields5421 : The US government has nothing to do with the NFPA. It is an INTERNATIONAL association to promote fire safety, though focused in the US. It has NO REG
47 wingnutmn : FSD has one, and it is a sauna in the summer. Unbelievably hot compared to a metal one. To me it is unnecessary. But then again, nobody asked me. Wing
48 Beardown91737 : The glass jetbridges at ONT are partial. The glass section is stationary and it is over a roof on gates 205,206,207, and 405, 406, and 407. The 4xx ga
49 Post contains links and images AusA380 : See webcam from Adelaide Airport (ADL) which shows their transparent airbridges. http://www.adelaideairport.com.au/ai...rs/south-australia#terminal-we
50 teneriffe77 : Speaking of jet bridges why don't many European/asian airports use jetbridges for regional jet flights (CR7's E-145's etc). Also I can see why glass j
51 nycdave : Two thoughts: 1) HA! Love that some posters, as usual, automatically leapt to the government bogeyman being the root of all evil. I need to start blam
52 luckyone : It is likely anything that is capable of breaking glass would be considered a weapon and difficult to impossible to get through security. Not to ment
53 Viscount724 : The airlines don't want to pay for the costs of the major terminal changes that would require.
54 Post contains images Hayseuss : SAN glass jetbridge being installed at Gate 51 as part of the T2 expansion: Hayseuss
55 bpat777 : At LGA, AA has 2 or 3 even numbered gates that are partially glass. They look very old however.
56 SANMAN66 : I have been looking at that picture closely, that doesn't look like a jetway, it looks more like a bridge possibly leading out to the actual jetway i
57 Hayseuss : I believe the reason you don't see the wheels or machinery is because the picture was taking while the bridge was actually being installed. SDIA has
58 pnwtraveler : For the same reason Transport Canada won't allow glass windows in ships below rescue routes to inflatable life rafts. So Ferries for example that use
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