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Lufthansa Had An "AirBus" 50 Years Ago  
User currently offlinea3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5409 times:

Hi folks,
I just stumbled across footage of a German news show from April 1, 1963.
They showed LH's AIR BUS Service they started on that day between FRA and HAM.

The footage is quite interesting, unfortunately only in German: (Start at 12:16)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAkReEZ0crE

For those of you who don't know: LH started a commuter service between these two airports 3 times a day. The idea was to use the aircraft like a bus - no reservations necessary. The Price was relatively cheap but there was no service on board.
LH used their Super Connies on this route since they became obsolete due to the "jet clippers" used on north atlantic tracks.
The break even of this service would have been achieved by selling 50 tickets a day, but with only 37 sold in average, LH cancelled the service after a year or so.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

Quoting a3xx900 (Thread starter):
I just stumbled across footage of a German news show from April 1, 1963.
They showed LH's AIR BUS Service they started on that day between FRA and HAM.

LH's service was mentioned in this thread last month.
What Is The Origin Of The Name "Airbus"? (by flyingturtle Mar 6 2013 in Civil Aviation)

As also mentioned in that thread, Canadian regional carrier Pacific Western Airlines started their very successful "Airbus" shuttle service between Edmonton (the city center YXD airport) and Calgary in 1963. It was a very well-known brand long before the current "Airbus" existed. Ironically, for most of its 30 years or so of operation the Pacific Western Airbus service used the 737-200. It started with a modified DC-4 and then DC-6B before the 732s arrived in the late 1960s.


User currently offlineearlynff From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4714 times:

Quoting a3xx900 (Thread starter):
The break even of this service would have been achieved by selling 50 tickets a day, but with only 37 sold in average, LH cancelled the service after a year or so.

The Connie shuttle FRA-HAM-FRA was still active in summer 66. Whether it was still under the ticket: "Airbus", I´m not sure, but I think yes. It was the first step for me to do the Initial exam to start a career in LH flight deck which lasted more than 40 years...


User currently offlineflyglobal From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 613 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4686 times:

What no one said so far is that the youtube Video shows a 727 in all its glory in LH Livery.
The Airbus portion starts from 12:00 min in the Video.
Enjoy.

regards

Flyglobal


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4559 times:

Quoting earlynff (Reply 2):
The Connie shuttle FRA-HAM-FRA was still active in summer 66. Whether it was still under the ticket: "Airbus", I´m not sure, but I think yes.

The Airbus brand also still appeared in the April 1968 timetable for 2 daily FRA-HAM-FRA flights. The FRA-HAM flights were both 737s. On HAM-FRA one was a 737 and the other was a Convair 440 through June 14 and then changed to a Viscount 814.

In the July 1966 timetable it was 3 daily each way, 2 L-1049G and 1 Convair 440. In the April 1964 timetable it was also 3 daily but all flights were L-1049G.

Looks like the Airbus brand was dropped sometime between 1968 and 1970 as there's no mention of it in the April 1970 timetable.


User currently offlineAY104 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 505 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4216 times:

Thanks for the link! I remember travelling on that Airbus in the summer of 1963. My parents and brother and I were in Europe for a few weeks.

I remember being quite excited, because it was my first - and, as it turns out, only - flight on a Constellation.

I was 13 at the time, and already interested in aviation. It was quite a trip for me. We went from YVR-AMS on a Britannia, then a Viscount to FRA, the the Connie. We took a Viscount from HAM-AMS, then a DC8 nonstop from AMS home to YVR. On the flight from AMS-YVR there were only about 20 passengers, and that was in the middle of the summer! What luxury in those days.

Cheers,
AY104



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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

Quoting flyglobal (Reply 3):
What no one said so far is that the youtube Video shows a 727 in all its glory in LH Livery.

Nope, it' s a BEA Hawker Siddeley Trident!

(... if you mean the bird at 13:14, because apart from that I only see a 727 in Boeing's prototype livery)

[Edited 2013-04-04 01:07:25]

P.S. This video is from April 63 and the first flight of the 727 was just only 2 month before. Lufthansa got their first 727 more than a year later.)


[Edited 2013-04-04 01:15:01]


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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3081 times:

It's also interesting to hear (in the interview in this video), that LH used the Connies for this service, because they failed to find another airline to buy these aircrcraft.


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User currently offlinesparky35805 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2549 times:
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Eastern used Super Connies on Air Bus service between the great lakes and Florida in the early 1960s.The titles on a few L1049As and L1049Cs were changed to Fly Eastern Air Bus.Also when the DC-10s and L1011s were being marketed in the late 1960s they were refered to as air busses by many.
Sparky


User currently onlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1685 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2500 times:
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I remember the Lufthansa airbuses. I was stationed in Germany in the army from 1966 -1969 and I used to go to Frankfurt Airport on weekends for spotting and collecting timetables. I remember seeing Airbus service in the Lufthansa timetables. I also remember that the domestic terminal had only one jetway, and it was usually connected to the main cabin door of a Super Connie. I would often take one-day domestic roundtrips, but I never got a Connie. It was usually a Convair 440 Metropolitan or Viscount 814, but a couple of times it was a 707 in one direction.

Bob Bradley



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