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New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2  
User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 59024 times:
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As the first thread become too long (> 250 replies) we are opening the Part 2 , to allow more discussions, as well as to help users with low speed internet connections.

Link to the previous thread
New AA Painted Aircraft (by TWA747 Feb 19 2013 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 58945 times:

Embraer E-175s are just around the corner in the new paint scheme.They will have the American Eagle banner on them.It would be nice to see one in the classic red white and blue scheme.

User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 58204 times:

Updated list......4/16/13

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA Currently at AMA

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N984AN 3DT currently at ROW
N989AN 3DU
N803NN 3EC
N908NN 3JT
N920NN 3KH
N921NN 3KJ


763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N383AN 383 currently at VCV
N369AA 369 currently at GUS


772
N775AN 7AF currently at GUS
N776AN 7AG
N782AN 7AN currently at VCV


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 58210 times:

what a American Eagle E175 would look like in the classic paint scheme.
We won't see any like this.


User currently offlinejustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 724 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 57748 times:

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 2):
N984AN 3DT currently at ROW

Fleet # 3DT is registered N987AN; N984AN was the former registration for a 767-300 when it has with Avianca, now registered HS-BIG.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 2):
N920NN 3KH
N921NN 3KJ

These two were delivered in the former paint scheme, with fleet #'s 3KF & 3KG repsectively; did you mean N922NN & N923NN?



"So many planes; so little time..."
User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 57526 times:
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Quoting doulasc (Reply 3):
We won't see any like this.

If they don't unveil a retro livery in the future, no. I doubt that will happen because regional airlines don't do that, only the majors do.



Ben Soriano
User currently offlineplanefreakaa From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 57291 times:

It seem that at this pace by the end of the year AA might have over half of the fleet painted. The new paint job is starting to grow on me.

User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 57101 times:
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Quoting planefreakaa (Reply 6):
AA might have over half of the fleet painted.

Half the fleet is exaggerated. By the end of next year, yes, half the fleet should be repainted. End of this year is too early to see half the fleet repainted. We will definitely see at least a quarter of the fleet repainted, though, maybe a third at the most. The fleet is huge.
I remember when United unveiled its then new battle ship gray livery 20 years ago, it took them 5 years to repaint their whole fleet.



Ben Soriano
User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 56865 times:

Quoting justplanesmart (Reply 4):
These two were delivered in the former paint scheme, with fleet #'s 3KF & 3KG repsectively; did you mean N922NN & N923NN?

Indeed, lets get that fixed here

Corrected list......4/18/13

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA Currently at AMA

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N984AN 3DT currently at ROW
N989AN 3DU
N803NN 3EC
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ


763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N383AN 383 currently at VCV
N369AA 369 currently at GUS


772
N775AN 7AF currently at GUS
N776AN 7AG
N782AN 7AN currently at VCV


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 56824 times:

7AF traded with 7AT @ GUS....7AF is unassigned at DFW as of today.

7LF should be delivered late next week. The next 737 delivery -3KK- is not until the first week in May. 3 737s are scheduled for delivery in May -3KK, 3KL, 3KM.

N737AA


User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 56268 times:

N987AN/3DT returned from ROW 4/18
N804NN/3ED ferried to ROW 4/18
N782AN/7AN returned from VCV 4/19
N774AN/7AE ferried to VCV today 4/22
N376AN/376 is scheduled to ferry to VCV today 4/22

Updated list (AA Only):

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA Currently at AMA

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N984AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N803NN 3EC
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N804NN/3ED currently at ROW
N924NN/3KK currently at BFI


763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N383AN 383
N369AA 369 currently at GUS
N376AN/376 scheduled to VCV 4/22


772
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N782AN 7AN
N786AN/7AT currently at GUS
N774AN/7AE currently at VCV


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF currently at PAE

I don't have the RJ info.....

N737AA


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 56174 times:

Quoting doulasc (Reply 3):
We won't see any like this.

I think that this looks horrible and I am glad to see that the new paint is taking over the fleet.



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User currently offlinePDX88 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 56074 times:

Quoting doulasc (Reply 3):

The cheat lines for Eagle wrap all the way around the fuselage, they don't stop in front of the horizontal stabilizers like they do on AA.


User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 55954 times:

Saw 383 last night taxiing from Hangar 5 to the terminal. Must say, she is looking mighty sharp with the winglets!




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User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 55760 times:

Quoting N737AA (Reply 10):
I don't have the RJ info.....

N536EA is back in service, N509AE is currently at AMA



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 55039 times:

On 4/25/13 N722AN 7LF delivered to DFW from BFI.
On 4/25/13 N805NN 3ED returned to DFW from ROW.
On 4/26/13 N369AA 369 came back to DFW from GUS.

On 4/26 AAL9737 flew into DFW, I am not certain if this was N924NN being delivered.

Ryan



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User currently offlineoc2dc From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 55016 times:

Interesting side note, Brandon Farris of Airline Reporter tweeted that he has confirmed with an AA rep at Boeing that they will indeed be painting some of the MD-80's b/c they will be in the fleet until 2018.

This is exciting news if it is indeed accurate. Hopefully we will see those planes scheduled for painting soon.



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User currently offlinewoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1053 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 54592 times:

N508ae is also painted in the new Eagle scheme it was done between n507 and n511

I haven't seen any embraers go in for paint since 942



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 54312 times:

Quoting oc2dc (Reply 16):
Interesting side note, Brandon Farris of Airline Reporter tweeted that he has confirmed with an AA rep at Boeing that they will indeed be painting some of the MD-80's b/c they will be in the fleet until 2018.

This is exciting news if it is indeed accurate. Hopefully we will see those planes scheduled for painting soon.

Exciting news indeed! I suspect that the new livery will look better on the MD-80s than it does on any of AA's other aircraft.



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User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 54069 times:

Updated 4/28. Painting has slowed some, currently only 2 772 and 1 763 in paint




CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N803NN 3EC
N804NN/3ED
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN/3KK currently at BFI



763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376 currently at VCV
N383AN 383
N369AA 369


772
N774AN/7AE currently at VCV
N775AN 7AE
N776AN 7AG
N782AN 7AN
N786AN/7AT currently at GUS



77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 53837 times:
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And the list is growing of course. In the days and weeks ahead, it will be more time consuming to list each aircraft repainted in the new colors. Imagine how big the list will be in six months from now.

Ben Soriano



Ben Soriano
User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 53668 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 20):

And the list is growing of course. In the days and weeks ahead, it will be more time consuming to list each aircraft repainted in the new colors. Imagine how big the list will be in six months from now.

The great members of this site managed to keep track of the entire UA/CO + Express fleet repainting and interior mods. I can only hope we can do the same for AA (and later AA+US).

Ryan



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User currently offlinecactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2450 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 53550 times:

Quoting doulasc (Reply 3):
We won't see any like this.

Thank god.. that looks hideous...



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User currently offlinen737aa From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 53318 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 20):
And the list is growing of course. In the days and weeks ahead, it will be more time consuming to list each aircraft repainted in the new colors. Imagine how big the list will be in six months from now.

Ben Soriano

Yes at some point it will be moot, but for now it is still a rarity to see one in the new livery.

N737AA


User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1259 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 53241 times:

I saw an ERJ landing at HOU last night. Didn't get a reg or even an exact model. Looked really nice, though.


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User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 25, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 53486 times:
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Quoting n737aa (Reply 23):
Yes at some point it will be moot, but for now it is still a rarity to see one in the new livery.

N737AA

Now, what would be interesting as the list starts to get big, is to restrict ourselves to these three types: the MD-80, the 757 and the 767-200. Because I'm sure that if we do, the list will be much smaller and no longer moot.

Ben Soriano



Ben Soriano
User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 26, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 53355 times:

Quoting oc2dc (Reply 16):
Interesting side note, Brandon Farris of Airline Reporter tweeted that he has confirmed with an AA rep at Boeing that they will indeed be painting some of the MD-80's b/c they will be in the fleet until 2018.

That makes sense. For the past 10 years or so, AA has been polishing aircraft every two years. If an MD-80 is scheduled for retirement in 2017 or 2018, it will need to be polished once or twice before retirement. So, why not paint those aircraft and be done with polishing in the future?


User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 54338 times:
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Quoting American 767 (Reply 20):
And the list is growing of course. In the days and weeks ahead, it will be more time consuming to list each aircraft repainted in the new colors. Imagine how big the list will be in six months from now.

As I think about it the list will actually trim itself down as time goes on for the following reasons:

1. Only a limited number of CRJs, 767s, and 772s so once you hit a certain number can just track the ones that aren't painted.

2. 77Ws only 20 on order and at some point should arriving painted in new livery. OTOH are they actually putting them in service unpainted at this point or are they being tracked more from a novelty standpoint now?

3. Shouldn't all narrow body Airbus should be delivered in new livery already?

4. At some point the shouldn't the new 737s also be delivered in new livery?


User currently onlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 54299 times:

Quoting crAAzy (Reply 27):
1. Only a limited number of CRJs, 767s, and 772s so once you hit a certain number can just track the ones that aren't painted.

2. 77Ws only 20 on order and at some point should arriving painted in new livery. OTOH are they actually putting them in service unpainted at this point or are they being tracked more from a novelty standpoint now?

3. Shouldn't all narrow body Airbus should be delivered in new livery already?

4. At some point the shouldn't the new 737s also be delivered in new livery?

All the Airbus and 787s will be delivered with the new livery for sure, because they cannot be delivered with the old one. Besides, all the new 737s and 77Ws should start being delivered with the new livery.

As we can assume that all the 772s, 738s and CR7s will be painted, and that no 762 will, the aircraft that will be split between old and new liveries will be the 763s, S80s and ERJs only.

Anyway, when US Airways comes on board, we will have to track something like 500 or 600 more aircraft. Crazy.


User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 54186 times:

Quoting realsim (Reply 28):
Besides, all the new 737s and 77Ws should start being delivered with the new livery.

As we can assume that all the 772s, 738s and CR7s will be painted, and that no 762 will, the aircraft that will be split between old and new liveries will be the 763s, S80s and ERJs only.

Anyway, when US Airways comes on board, we will have to track something like 500 or 600 more aircraft. Crazy.

737 - 3KH and beyone delivered new livery
773 - From this point on delivered new livery


User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 30, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 54214 times:

We really should take a cue from this topic United/Cont. Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 11 (by LipeGIG May 16 2012 in Civil Aviation) which managed to track the entire repainting status of UA and CO + Express. That topic is up to I think it's 12 or 13 separate topic due to length and they have done a great job keeping up with the fleet status. Would be nice if we could all band together and do the same for AA.

Ryan



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User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 31, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 53931 times:
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Quoting realsim (Reply 28):
and that no 762 will

It is not an impossibility that one of them gets repainted, even if it stays in the fleet for only one more year before retirement.

Quoting realsim (Reply 28):
the aircraft that will be split between old and new liveries will be the 763s, S80s and ERJs only.

757 also.



Ben Soriano
User currently offlinen737aa From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 53735 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 26):
That makes sense. For the past 10 years or so, AA has been polishing aircraft every two years.

They get buffed at each C Check which is typically annually for narrowbody and 18mo for widebody.

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 29):
737 - 3KH and beyone delivered new livery
773 - From this point on delivered new livery

Correct..

N737AA


User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 33, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 53615 times:

Quoting n737aa (Reply 32):
They get buffed at each C Check which is typically annually for narrowbody and 18mo for widebody.

That was the case before 9/11. After 9/11, the narrowbodies went to a schedule of buffing every other C-Check in order to save money. Considering how scuffed the areas are around L1 are (and L2 on the 757s), you can tell that they aren't getting buffed/polished as often as they did in the 1990s.


User currently offlinen737aa From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 53421 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 33):
That was the case before 9/11. After 9/11, the narrowbodies went to a schedule of buffing every other C-Check in order to save money. Considering how scuffed the areas are around L1 are (and L2 on the 757s), you can tell that they aren't getting buffed/polished as often as they did in the 1990s.

The entry door area's are a problem on all fleets and it doesn't take long for the jetbridge ring to show up even after buffing. The exterior appearance maintenance program hasn't changed despite what you claim. There are some test aircraft out there used to evaluate a clear coating process for both the MD80 and 757 to extend the life of a buffing job as there are efforts under way to extend the LC check interval. I can assure you that unless the aircraft was part of the evaluation they are getting buffed at each LC and or MBV. As I passed by the MD80 LC line yesterday the aircraft in for LC was getting buffed.

N737AA


User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 35, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 52986 times:

Quoting n737aa (Reply 34):
The entry door area's are a problem on all fleets and it doesn't take long for the jetbridge ring to show up even after buffing. The exterior appearance maintenance program hasn't changed despite what you claim. There are some test aircraft out there used to evaluate a clear coating process for both the MD80 and 757 to extend the life of a buffing job as there are efforts under way to extend the LC check interval. I can assure you that unless the aircraft was part of the evaluation they are getting buffed at each LC and or MBV. As I passed by the MD80 LC line yesterday the aircraft in for LC was getting buffed.

I'm only saying what I remember reading in the Wall Street Journal, probably 10 years ago or so, and I think Gerard Arpey mentioned this in the CNBC documentary on AA. He said, words to the effect, that having planes that weren't quite so shiney was more than offset by the cost savings from doubling the interval between buffing.

I will dispute what you say aobut the jet bridge ring on all aircraft. I sat at BOS last Ocober for about 8 hours (I gave up my seat for vouchers on BOS-ORD), and I noticed that every AA aircraft had a ring about L1 (and L2 on the 757s), except for one 737, which was very new, based on the N-number.

In looking at DL, B6, US, and UA planes, except for 1 DL MD-88, all of them looked pretty clean around L1 and L2.


User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 36, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 52477 times:

Just a couple of changes to report. On a side note MQ is down to just 11 135's remaining in the fleet and the rest should be retired by the end of the year. Progress is continuing on MSN 5678 aka AA's first A319. AA will take delivery of the first 3 Airbus aircraft in the last two weeks of July!


CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537 Currently at AMA

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N801NN 3EA Currently at GUS
N803NN 3EC
N804NN/3ED
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN/3KK



763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376 currently at VCV
N382AN 382 currently at GUS
N383AN 383
N369AA 369


772
N774AN/7AE currently at VCV
N775AN 7AE
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM currently at GUS
N782AN 7AN
N786AN/7AT



77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 52321 times:

thanks for the updates. nice to see the progress. I think you have a typo under the 777-200s. You have 7AE listed twice.

User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 38, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 52007 times:

Quoting miaami (Reply 37):
thanks for the updates. nice to see the progress. I think you have a typo under the 777-200s. You have 7AE listed twice

Indeed 775AN should be 7AF



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User currently offlineqqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 39, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 50722 times:

Any more updates? I had to dig deep to find the thread again. Hopefully we can keep it going, as I'm keen on keeping up with the progress. Many rumors are swirling that painting has stopped, but when you see on here a/c are actively being painted, it's easy to debunk those rumors. Thanks for the updates!


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User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 50492 times:

Don't have the whole list but a freshly painted 767-300 will be back in DFW today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20130517/1700Z/KGUS/KDFW


User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 41, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 50267 times:

Update 5/17 Currently 41 aircraft already painted in the new livery. ERJ painting has slowed to a crawl and there are currently none in paint. Two new 737's were just delivered N925NN and 926NN.

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N545PB 5PB Currently at AMA

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N801NN 3EA Currently at GUS
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM




763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N369AA 369


772
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AE
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM currently at GUS
N782AN 7AN
N786AN 7AT
N790AN 7AX currently at VCV


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF

[Edited 2013-05-17 12:22:51]


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User currently offlineaacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 566 posts, RR: 1
Reply 42, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 50125 times:
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Well after seeing that list, I cant exactly say it is being done at light speed either. It seems to have slowed down considerably! Or is it me? Just one CR7 and one 777 are added from the previous list. The two 737's are new deliveries so we know those will all be coming wearing the new scheme.

User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2442 posts, RR: 23
Reply 43, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 50116 times:

Does anyone know what the plans are for the current specialty planes that AA has? Will they keep them? Also does anyone know when any of the One World planes are due for a repaint?


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User currently offlineqqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 44, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 50008 times:

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 41):
Update 5/17 Currently 41 aircraft already painted in the new livery. ERJ painting has slowed to a crawl and there are currently none in paint. Two new 737's were just delivered N925NN and 926NN.

Have you heard any information about a slow down in painting? Among the rumors, one is that Parker and Co. have asked AA to slow down painting, and/or stop painting. Considering aircraft are being painted as we speak, I'm not sure of the validity of those rumors, so any insight is appreciated. Thanks!



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User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2074 posts, RR: 15
Reply 45, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 49902 times:

Thanks for the update. I landed at ORD last night and there were four CR7s, one ERJ and two 737s in the new scheme. It was wild seeing so many of the new tails parked around concourses G and H.

I agree it seems like painting has slowed down a bit since March/April, but AA is also running a fuller summer schedule now and it may be more challenging to take ships out of service as frequently.


User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 46, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 49726 times:

Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 44):
Have you heard any information about a slow down in painting? Among the rumors, one is that Parker and Co. have asked AA to slow down painting, and/or stop painting. Considering aircraft are being painted as we speak, I'm not sure of the validity of those rumors, so any insight is appreciated. Thanks!
Quoting aacun (Reply 42):

Well after seeing that list, I cant exactly say it is being done at light speed either. It seems to have slowed down considerably! Or is it me? Just one CR7 and one 777 are added from the previous list. The two 737's are new deliveries so we know those will all be coming wearing the new scheme.

I don't think that the painting has slowed at all. Aircraft are only being painted in 3 locations. I think they have kicked out about as many as they can since the rebranding was only 4 months ago. As far as the ERJ's, AA is in the process of returning the 135's to the lessor and so there are not a lot of extra ERJ's to put some out of service just for paint. Just my thought on that.



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User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 49655 times:

Any idea on how long it takes to paint each aircraft?

777's and 767 's seem to take about 2 weeks, not sure how long the for the 737's.

Also, are there any new deliveries of the 777-300 or 777-200 coming up soon?


User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 48, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 49582 times:
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Quoting miaami (Reply 47):
Also, are there any new deliveries of the 777-300 or 777-200 coming up soon?

You mean new deliveries fresh out of the factory? Because I don't think American still has 772s on order.



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User currently offlinejustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 724 posts, RR: 2
Reply 49, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 49275 times:

Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 44):
a slow down in painting

The explanation could be as simple as the need for more planes in service as the busy summer travel season begins. I recall similar things happening with other large fleet repaintings, such a United.



"So many planes; so little time..."
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3768 posts, RR: 3
Reply 50, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days ago) and read 49248 times:

Well, according to all the conspiracy theorists on this website, Dougy is going to change the livery so it's a moot point.

(I don't for a second think that's true....)



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User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days ago) and read 49238 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 50):

I disagree. I don't think this livery will last.

Give the New Americans Managment team 6 months in charge and we will see.

Logo is great tail is awful.



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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 52, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 49184 times:

Quoting b757capt (Reply 51):
Logo is great tail is awful.

Although we can't rule it out, I think the overwhelming odds are that the livery will not be changed (at least not significantly). By the time DP's team takes over, close to 100 aircraft will likely already be painted. A livery is usually too subjective of a thing to spend tens of millions on repainting aircraft because some like it and some don't.

The only real reason I could think that a change would be made is if it's deemed important enough by DP to preserve parts of US's heritage in the livery.

Quoting miaami (Reply 47):


Also, are there any new deliveries of the 777-300 or 777-200 coming up soon?

7LG (the seventh 77W) should be delivered within the next week or so. AA still has options on a few 772s, but I doubt those will remain. They'll either be converted to additional 77Ws or other future aircraft.



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User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 49116 times:

Based on looking at the daily RGO, I don't think painting has slowed at all. Seems to be a pretty consistent pace right now. From this point on all new deliveries will be in the new livery.

I was just thinking that this new livery would look pretty cool on a 747. I am way too computer illiterate to use paint shop to make up my own.


User currently offlineWingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 48951 times:

Am I correct in assuming that the planes that have been painted are only getting the exterior make-over now? .....no interior work yet, other than moving rows to accommodate MCE? My understanding from previous in-house announcements is that refitting the 772 & 763 cabins for full-flat Business (and removal of 772 First) isn't planned to begin earlier than this autumn.

As to the painting schedule, I would expect that paint-only work would indeed slow down for summer peak fleet scheduling, with the only new paint being associated with heavy checks, when they'd be subject to exterior work anyway.



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User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 49002 times:

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 54):
Am I correct in assuming that the planes that have been painted are only getting the exterior make-over now? .....no interior work yet, other than moving rows to accommodate MCE? My understanding from previous in-house announcements is that refitting the 772 & 763 cabins for full-flat Business (and removal of 772 First) isn't planned to begin earlier than this autumn.

All but 14 or so 737s have MCE now, all 767-300s have MCE, all 777-300, all but 3 or 4 Super 80s have MCE, all 757s have MCE.... None of the 762s have it or will get it. None of the 777-200s do yet but will likely be converted when the First Class is removed.


User currently offlinejlbmedia From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 49124 times:
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Quoting b757capt (Reply 51):
I disagree. I don't think this livery will last.

Give the New American's Management team 6 months in charge and we will see.

Logo is great tail is awful.

  



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User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 48957 times:

Another 777-200 repainted and sent back to DFW today. This should be the 6th 777-200 in the new livery.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9656


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 48567 times:

Quoting miaami (Reply 47):
Any idea on how long it takes to paint each aircraft?777's and 767 's seem to take about 2 weeks, not sure how long the for the 737's.

I lost track of the later 737s but the first 3 (in shop to out of shop) took 16, 10 and 10 days.

N804NN flew into ROW on 4/18 and left on 4/25 so getting quicker now at 8 days.



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User currently offlineoc2dc From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 48403 times:

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 54):
My understanding from previous in-house announcements is that refitting the 772 & 763 cabins for full-flat Business (and removal of 772 First) isn't planned to begin earlier than this autumn.

Interior refurbishment/reconfiguration doesn't start until first quarter 2014. That is unless you know something we don't know or something changed.....



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3768 posts, RR: 3
Reply 60, posted (1 year 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 47692 times:

I guess that puts that rumor of Dougie asking AA to stop the repaints to bed.


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User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (1 year 7 months 14 hours ago) and read 47565 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 60):
I guess that puts that rumor of Dougie asking AA to stop the repaints to bed.


Doug can ask all he wants, till merger approval AA is still its own carrier. Now after approval we will see the real story.


User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 7 months 14 hours ago) and read 47526 times:

Another 777-200 painted

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...0/history/20130524/0300Z/KVCV/KDFW


User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6646 posts, RR: 2
Reply 63, posted (1 year 7 months 14 hours ago) and read 47470 times:

I wonder, what will happen to AA's pink ribbon livery? If AA is planning on introducing a new version of it, I wonder what it will look like.


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User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 64, posted (1 year 7 months 4 hours ago) and read 47114 times:

Going into the busy summer travel season I would expect we will see this list grow slowly but I will definitely try to keep updating it.

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542 Currently at AMA
N545PB 5PB

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX Currently at GUS
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM




763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N369AA 369


772
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AE
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N786AN 7AT
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG Currently at GUS


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (1 year 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 47017 times:

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 64):
772
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AE
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N786AN 7AT
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG Currently at GUS

which aircraft is 7AF, 774AN or 775AN? I believe a new 737 should be arriving from BFI today (in new livery) and another 777-200 should be sent to VCV for painting today as well.


User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 66, posted (1 year 7 months ago) and read 47056 times:
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Quoting dtw757 (Reply 64):
Going into the busy summer travel season I would expect we will see this list grow slowly but I will definitely try to keep updating it.

As of now it will be easier to establish the list of MD-80s that are still in service than to establish the list of each aircraft repainted in the new colors. Thanks anyway for keeping us updated.

Ben Soriano



Ben Soriano
User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 7 months ago) and read 47005 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 53):
Based on looking at the daily RGO, I don't think painting has slowed at all. Seems to be a pretty consistent pace right now. From this point on all new deliveries will be in the new livery.

Is there an entry in RES or DECs to see what a/c are being painted?


User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 68, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 46775 times:

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542 Currently at AMA
N545PB 5PB

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX Currently at GUS
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN delivered 5/24


763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N369AA 369


772
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N786AN 7AT
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG Currently at GUS


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF

Quoting miaami (Reply 65):
which aircraft is 7AF, 774AN or 775AN? I believe a new 737 should be arriving from BFI today (in new livery) and another 777-200 should be sent to VCV for painting today as well.

I corrected the list to reflect 7AF as N775AN and yes N927NN was delivered today



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5011 posts, RR: 4
Reply 69, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 46955 times:

Any idea why AA opted to go with nil paint on the winglets  
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User currently offlinegdg9 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 673 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46395 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 69):
Any idea why AA opted to go with nil paint on the winglets

Easier to redo when the merger completes and this 'interim' livery is scrapped?


User currently onlinegeorgiabill From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46398 times:
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Curious no 757's in new paint scheme yet

User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 72, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 46152 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 69):
Any idea why AA opted to go with nil paint on the winglets

Personally I think the new logo would look great on both sides of the 737, 757, and 767 winglets. It might take a slight revision for it to fit, but if Parker ends up keeping but tweaking the new look this is one minor change I would really like to see. And with the current US livery's winglet design it would make sense.

Cheers

LGA777


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5011 posts, RR: 4
Reply 73, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 46073 times:

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 70):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 69):
Any idea why AA opted to go with nil paint on the winglets

Easier to redo when the merger completes and this 'interim' livery is scrapped?

Why scrap it? I personally find the new scheme refreshing when you compare it with the old scheme.

Quoting LGA777 (Reply 72):
Personally I think the new logo would look great on both sides of the 737, 757, and 767 winglets.

Would be nice to apply some color to the winglets even the Eagle logo wouldn't be that difficult. Overall the new scheme has grown on me.

EK413



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3768 posts, RR: 3
Reply 74, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 45955 times:

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 70):
Easier to redo when the merger completes and this 'interim' livery is scrapped?

]

That's absurd.

If that was the intent, why repaint them in the first place?

Quoting EK413 (Reply 73):
Why scrap it? I personally find the new scheme refreshing when you compare it with the old scheme.

That's the fashionable conspiracy theory on a.net as of late. It's sexy to be controversial, apparently. If not grounded in reality.



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User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 45715 times:

The 7th AA 777-300 getting ready for delivery from Boeing.
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Reply 76, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 45363 times:

For those wondering what a 757 would look like in the new colors..

http://qwsim.flight1.net/forums/uploads/4/QW757AANew2_copy.jpg


MD80:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/volrider/TMd23.jpg

Although they are flight sim based drawings, I am sure you get the idea..



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User currently offlinegdg9 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 673 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 45295 times:

Quoting miaami (Reply 75):

The 7th AA 777-300 getting ready for delivery from Boeing.

And it was delivered today.


User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 78, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 44838 times:

Painting continues this week; an additional 737, 767 and 777 went in for paint as well as a new 77W was delivered.

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542 Currently at AMA
N545PB 5PB

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX Currently at GUS
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG Currently at GUS
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN delivered 5/24


763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386 Currently at VCV
N369AA 369


772
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS Currently at VCV
N786AN 7AT
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG Currently at GUS


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlinegdg9 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 673 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 44784 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 73):
Why scrap it? I personally find the new scheme refreshing when you compare it with the old scheme.

Lackluster, bland fuselage with awful looking tail.

Quoting 777STL (Reply 74):
That's the fashionable conspiracy theory on a.net as of late. It's sexy to be controversial, apparently. If not grounded in reality.

Incoming CEO Parker has made rumblings the new livery is not set in stone.


User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 80, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 44259 times:

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 79):
Lackluster, bland fuselage with awful looking tail.
Quoting gdg9 (Reply 79):
Incoming CEO Parker has made rumblings the new livery is not set in stone.

With the repainting already approaching 60 aircraft and climbing weekly, I don't see this branding going anywhere anytime soon



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User currently offlineetops1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1111 posts, RR: 1
Reply 81, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 44165 times:

Remember .. It's just paint ..

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Reply 82, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 43824 times:
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Well, I was just reading an Airline Report from a guy that went to Seattle to take part in AA's 6th 77W delivery. There was a big party thrown for this specific airplane. And he says on his report he found out during this trip that indeed that S80 and the 757 will both see the new livery........ I am really glad to hear and hope it becomes a reality.

User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 83, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 43471 times:

Quoting b757capt (Reply 51):
I disagree. I don't think this livery will last.

Give the New Americans Managment team 6 months in charge and we will see.

Logo is great tail is awful.

I would love to see the new livery stay. I don't think that AA would have put the money into a new livery and announce it so close to the merger announcement. I believe that US had a say in the new livery, knowing how long it takes to put a corporate merger together there was no way that US could not have something to do with the new livery.



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User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 84, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 42860 times:

An update for this week. Just one added 738 has gone into paint the others have returned to service and a new 738 is being delivered.

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N963AN 3CU Currently at GUS
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP scheduled to ferry BFI to DFW 6/6 as flight 9701


763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386 Currently at VCV
N369AA 369


772
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS Currently at VCV
N786AN 7AT
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 85, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 43001 times:

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 84):
N924NN 3KK

Saw this Aircraft in ANU on Saturday. For some reason its flight to MIA got Cancelled, not sure why though but that allowed me to get some close up shots http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2861/8924440738_de9317d5bc_b.jpg
P1010116 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2840/8924424144_e7455a3999_b.jpg
P1010117 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8923794295_fc5b2e73fb_b.jpg
P1010118 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr



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User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 86, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 42593 times:

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 79):
Lackluster, bland fuselage with awful looking tail.

Doesn't "bland fuselage" pretty much describe most aircraft today, especially if they are in full Euro White? The fact that AA has silver fuselages makes them stand out from UA, B6, VX, DL, and US, as well as the likes of JL, BA, AF, and LH. About the only intetesting fuselages are AA, WN, KL, and AC, since they aren't white or white with a secondary color on the lower fuselage.


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3768 posts, RR: 3
Reply 87, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 42480 times:

Quoting etops1 (Reply 81):
Remember .. It's just paint ..

Remember, it's just speculation.



PHX based
User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 88, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 41899 times:

An update for this week. A 738 has returned from paint while another went in. The same story with the 772. Another new 738 will also be delivered this week

CR7
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738
N963AN 3CU
N965AN 3CW currently at GUS
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR schedule to ferry from BFI on 6/13


763
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386 Currently at VCV
N369AA 369


772
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N789AN 7AW currently at VCV
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG


77W
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlineqfatwa From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 41597 times:

Google for photo by Alexander Viduetsky of N509AE which is in new livery.

User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 41278 times:
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Thanks for all the updates !

Would it be possible to add totals next to each aircraft type such as below?

(Aircraft that are painted or in process of being painted / total # of aircraft in fleet)

77W (7 / 7)
772 (10 / 47)
763 (9 / 58)
738 (22 / 210)
ERJs - too difficult to track totals ???
CR7 (10 / 47)


User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 91, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 41198 times:
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Quoting crAAzy (Reply 90):
(Aircraft that are painted or in process of being painted / total # of aircraft in fleet)

Obviously for the 77W and in the future the 787, these numbers will always be equal to each other.



Ben Soriano
User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 92, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 40274 times:

An update for this week.

CR7 (10/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738 (24/211)
N963AN 3CU
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N811NN 3EL currently at GUS
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR


763 (10/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N369AA 369
N372AA 372 Currently at VCV

772 (10/47)
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG


77W (7/7)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlinegdg9 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 673 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 39830 times:

Keep the updates coming! Thanks

User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 94, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 39618 times:

cant wait to see an M80 in the new colors. When will they start repainting the CRJ-200s? Also, when (if) the merger is closed in Aug, does anyone know how fast US's planes will start getting the new look? Will they be getting AA decals in the meantime?

User currently offlineWingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 39475 times:

Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 94):
Also, when (if) the merger is closed in Aug, does anyone know how fast US's planes will start getting the new look? Will they be getting AA decals in the meantime?

Good question. Repainting will probably start right away, as soon as it's all final and closed. Titles and logos are another issue. When the TWA acquisition closed but flights were still operated and marketed separately by TW, the planes, even when repainted in AA stripes still said "TWA" and "TransWorld", but carried an additional sticker "An AmericanAirlines Company". IIRC, at some point they did start updating to "American" titles when marketing changed to all AA and TW was retired, but with the additional sticker "Operated by TW LLC" or something like that until the final cut-over to the single certifcate. The AirCal fleet name decals were replaced very quickly with "American" titles (as in 2-3 days), but no additional stickers. I would think the US fleet may keep their "US Airways" titles at least until closer to merging under the AA operating certificate, however the repainting could start right away. Possible would be putting "American" titles on them, like with AirCal, but with an additional sticker of "Operated by US Airways" until the certificate cut-over. I don't think "an AmericanAirlines Company" would apply in this merger.



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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 96, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 39464 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 7):
Half the fleet is exaggerated. By the end of next year, yes, half the fleet should be repainted. End of this year is too early to see half the fleet repainted. We will definitely see at least a quarter of the fleet repainted, though, maybe a third at the most. The fleet is huge.
I remember when United unveiled its then new battle ship gray livery 20 years ago, it took them 5 years to repaint their whole fleet.

Well considering that after the merger closes they will want to get US planes painted quickly, it is reasonable to assume that over half could be done by the end of the year, if you take into account the US planes as well, the new deliveries, and the retirements.


User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 97, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 39026 times:

Quoting qfatwa (Reply 89):
Google for photo by Alexander Viduetsky of N509AE which is in new livery.

Looks like I missed one here thanks for the heads up!

CR7 (11/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738 (24/211)
N963AN 3CU
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N811NN 3EL currently at GUS
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR


763 (10/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N369AA 369
N372AA 372 Currently at VCV

772 (10/47)
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG


77W (7/7)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 98, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 38957 times:

Are the American Connection planes going to say American Connection or American Eagle when they're repainted?

User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 99, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 38978 times:

N930NN / 3KS delivered to DFW on 6/25
N724AN / 7LH delivers to DFW today 6/26 (AAL9703)

Ryan



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User currently onlineripcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 100, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 38958 times:

I wish the would have used the Silver Paint like VS uses my all time fav color besides polished chrome for a plane

User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 101, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 38977 times:

Quoting rj777 (Reply 98):
Are the American Connection planes going to say American Connection or American Eagle when they're repainted?

They are all going to say American Eagle. The American Connection brand is being phased out, and everything will be American Eagle. The airline operating on the American Eagle certificate will likely get renamed in the near future.


User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 102, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 38415 times:

I noticed the July issue of the American Way Magazine has added a fleet page in the back. Renderings of all AA aircraft in the new livery including 757 and MD80.

User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 38037 times:
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Quoting miaami (Reply 102):
I noticed the July issue of the American Way Magazine has added a fleet page in the back. Renderings of all AA aircraft in the new livery including 757 and MD80.

Wooohooo! That's awesome news! I'm so glad they brought this back   


User currently offlineHNL From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 104, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 37892 times:

See Page 76 of the electronic version of the American Way Magazine.
http://emag-americanwaymag.com/



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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 105, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 37756 times:

Quoting HNL (Reply 104):
See Page 76

That should be page 86.

They could have done a better job with the aircraft drawings though.



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User currently offlinedeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 37777 times:

Interesting that they relaunched the aircraft page to include the E175 and not the A319. It will only be in service a month later.

User currently offlinesparky35805 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 107, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 37523 times:
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The 767-200 is also included.

User currently onlinekann123air From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 37612 times:

Quoting georgiabill (Reply 71):
Curious no 757's in new paint scheme yet

I talked to a 752 pilot the other day at ORD, he said that they should be getting em soon....

That was news to me!



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User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 109, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 37232 times:

Another 77W and 738 were delivered this past week. Also added the total number of other types that have none in the new scheme

CR7 (11/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738 (26/213)
N963AN 3CU
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM currently at GUS
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS

757 (0/97)

763 (12/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372 Currently at VCV
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378 Currently at GUS
N379AN 379
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386

762 (0/12)


772 (11/47)
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ Currently at VCV
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG


77W (8/8)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH

MD80 (0/181)



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 110, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 37164 times:
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Quoting dtw757 (Reply 109):
757 (0/97)

At least one out of 97 will be repainted, I am now be sure about that. If not more than one.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 109):
763 (12/58)

It's interesting that it is now 25 years American flies the 763 and none has yet left the fleet. None has ever been written off.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 109):
762 (0/12)

I wouldn't bet on that, though it is not impossible one out of the remaining 12 gets it.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 109):
MD80 (0/181)

I'm pretty sure at least one out of 181 left will get it.



Ben Soriano
User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 111, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 37106 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 110):
At least one out of 97 will be repainted, I am now be sure about that. If not more than one.

Yeah I just added those fleet types. I would bet 757 and MD80 may see new paint but highly doubt 762 will. As soon as the 321's arrive the 762's will be gone. I don't know what the timeline is for the 321 to arrive though



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 112, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 36859 times:
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Quoting dtw757 (Reply 111):
As soon as the 321's arrive the 762's will be gone.

The last 762 is scheduled to leave by late 2016 so early 2017 the AA767 fleet will consist of 300ERs only, whether or not the AA/US merger happens.



Ben Soriano
User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 113, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 36473 times:

Interesting that in the American Way magazine, they have the aircraft in the new livery, but they are all in bare metal/RJ white on AA.Com. What's even more interesting in that in American Way, the MD-80 is listed as being a McDonnell Douglas aircraft. But, on AA.Com, it's a Boeing aircraft.

User currently offlineaacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 566 posts, RR: 1
Reply 114, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 36164 times:
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I know I will get grilled for this one. Since the beginning I have been a fan of the new livery. Sorry!!!!!!! And I had been waiting for the day I would see a couple of those tails together. Finally, yesterday, including my aircraft, there were 4 of them bunched up and burried between them was one 737 with the old logo..... I must say........... It was a very beautiful site........... The old livery was very good and served the company very well for all those years, but the new livery just makes those planes stand out so nicely. For the record, I can be critical as well....... And if there was anything I would change about the new livery it would be the the winglets....... they could use something on them, as well as I could wish for the body to be a little more silvery.....such as National or Aeroflot.......... But all in all, I really, really like the new livery.

User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 115, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 36223 times:

Quoting aacun (Reply 114):
Sorry!!!!!!!

Why are you sorry? If you like the livery, you just do. 



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User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 116, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 36049 times:

Also of interest, the drawings in American Way show the E145 with winglets.
Ryan



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User currently offlinewoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1053 posts, RR: 7
Reply 117, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 36048 times:

Quoting RyDawg82 (Reply 116):
Also of interest, the drawings in American Way show the E145 with winglets.

Those are Expressjet's 145XRs that are flying as American Eagle operated by Expressjet.



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User currently offlineAA773 From UK - England, joined Jun 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 118, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 36097 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 115):

Totally Agree with you . The other day at JFK we had 3 of them lined up ( 2 777-300 and 1 777-200) and they looked great .


User currently offlinedeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 35958 times:

Quoting woodreau (Reply 117):
Those are Expressjet's 145XRs that are flying as American Eagle operated by Expressjet.

Expressjet does not operate 145s for Eagle - the former ASA side uses CR2s.


User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 120, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 35450 times:

Anyone think this tail is similar?

www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=8449


User currently offlineThePinnacleKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 731 posts, RR: 8
Reply 121, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 35307 times:

Quoting deltaffindfw (Reply 119):
Expressjet does not operate 145s for Eagle - the former ASA side uses CR2s.

Completely true... the only airline in the world to operate the XR is ExpressJet and they all fly as United Express (for now).....

FUNNY though that AA has a pseudo XR depicted as the "145"... granted they also used the CRJ-200 image as both the CRJ-200 and CRJ-700.... clearly the marketing people didn't actually do tooooooo much research in presentation plus the lack of A319/321 info.



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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 122, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 35086 times:

First Photo in the database of AA's A319:


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Photo © Lars Hentschel




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User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 123, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 34774 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 122):
First Photo in the database of AA's A319:

Actually, it looks pretty sharp from this angle. No real issue with 'bullet holes.'

When does she make the hop across the pond?


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 124, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 34819 times:

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 123):
Actually, it looks pretty sharp from this angle.

Agreed!   

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 123):
When does she make the hop across the pond?

Should be sometime this month.



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User currently onlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 892 posts, RR: 0
Reply 125, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 34661 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 124):
Should be sometime this month.

Any idea when the A321s come on stream - the only reference I can find says delivery from November 2013; but nothing about when they become operational.

I only ask as I am planning a couple of business trips at the back end of the year that will involve flying NYC-LAX and would love to get my timing right to sample the 321.


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 126, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 34610 times:

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 125):
Any idea when the A321s come on stream - the only reference I can find says delivery from November 2013; but nothing about when they become operational.

At the moment I dont see any MSN's listed for AA as A321s ( Im using Planespotters.net as my source) but so far there are 15 MSN's listed for the A319 up to MSN 5902. Though there are many missing in between, so hopefully those will be listed soon. As for EIS, it might be between November and December, but I have no info on that at the moment.



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User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 127, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 34784 times:
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Quoting deltaffindfw (Reply 106):
Interesting that they relaunched the aircraft page to include the E175 and not the A319. It will only be in service a month later.

I have a feeling we're going to see a whole other page added after the US/AA merger goes through. One page with American mainline aircraft including the new airbus type and another for the aircraft that will be flying under American Eagle name.


User currently offlineboeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1031 posts, RR: 3
Reply 128, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 34185 times:

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 111):
I would bet 757 and MD80 may see new paint but highly doubt 762 will

We just got a memo saying that 40 of the 757's and some MD-80's will get painted. Starting next year.

David



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12882 posts, RR: 46
Reply 129, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 34081 times:
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Quoting boeing767mech (Reply 128):
We just got a memo saying that 40 of the 757's and some MD-80's will get painted. Starting next year.

I hope it was signed by Doug Parker, otherwise it's not true.

Signed,
AA new scheme haters.



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User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 130, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 33433 times:

Updated 7/15

CR7 (11/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

738 (28/214)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV currently at GUS
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT just delivered

757 (0/97)

763 (13/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378 Currently at GUS
N379AN 379
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N388AA 388 Currently at VCV

762 (0/12)


772 (12/47)
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ Currently at VCV
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ Currently at VCV


77W (8/8)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH

MD80 (0/181)



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently onlineuberflieger From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 790 posts, RR: 1
Reply 131, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 33171 times:
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Quoting dtw757 (Reply 130):

can't wait for your next update when the first A319s have arrived

thanks



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User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 132, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 32929 times:

have any of the CRJ-200's been painted?

User currently offlineJMO-777 From Germany, joined Apr 2002, 501 posts, RR: 17
Reply 133, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 32722 times:

N778AN is in service already.

But thanks for keeping this service alive  



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User currently offlineBlueLine From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 134, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 32446 times:

N378AN is back in service and operating ORD-MAN today.

User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 135, posted (1 year 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 32338 times:

Quoting JMO-777 (Reply 133):
N778AN is in service already

Yep forgot to remove the currently at VCV from it

Quoting BlueLine (Reply 134):
N378AN is back in service and operating ORD-MAN today.

It just ferried GUS-ORD today



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 136, posted (1 year 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 31726 times:

Updated 7/23, another 737 was delivered and two more went into paint. Added the 175 which is set to go into service next week!

CR7 (11/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (2/2) operated by Republic to enter service 8/1
N401YX 401
N402YX 402

738 (31/215)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY currently at GUS
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN currently at GUS
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU just delivered

757 (0/97)

763 (13/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AN 379
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N388AA 388

762 (0/12)


772 (12/47)
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ Currently at VCV


77W (8/8)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH

MD80 (0/181)



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlinePDX88 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 31264 times:

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 136):

Is there a RES or DECS entry you are using to keep track of which planes have received new paint?


User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 138, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 30865 times:

Quoting PDX88 (Reply 137):
Is there a RES or DECS entry you are using to keep track of which planes have received new paint?

Not that I'm aware of - I was hoping there would be a JDM* entry that would show it (like RGEY*PAINT for example)...

I guess you could look up the respective fleets' engineering change orders for paint and see which aircraft are marked as having been accomplished. This wouldn't work on new deliveries, though.

I guess we can add N8001N / 001 (A319) to the list, since it was delivered yesterday. 002 should arrive on Saturday, I'm being told. Looks like 3KU is now in service, too...



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User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 30219 times:

Another new 777-300 should be arriving DFW tomorrow 7/31/13 and another A-319 the following day 8/1/13.

User currently offlineBlueLine From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 29755 times:

N403YX has been delivered to Republic and is currently at ORD

User currently offlineanfromme From Ireland, joined Feb 2012, 478 posts, RR: 11
Reply 141, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 29318 times:

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 136):
Updated 7/23, another 737 was delivered and two more went into paint. Added the 175 which is set to go into service next week!
[...]

So by that list, we're at 82 aircraft wearing the new livery already, still excluding the first A319s, and additional ERJ175s, 77Ws, and possibly additional 738s as well. If they keep up their average of introducing ~16.5 planes/month with the new livery (new deliveries and repaints), we're looking at around 120 total by the end of Q3.
Doesn't lend itself to doing yet another repaint after merger completion, to be honest. Especially considering that a lot of the unpainted planes by then won't be part of the merged fleet for too long anyway (i.e. wouldn't get a repaint in any case).

Quoting boeing767mech (Reply 128):
We just got a memo saying that 40 of the 757's and some MD-80's will get painted. Starting next year.

I'm surprised that even some of the MD-80s are going to get the new paintjob. Looking forward to seeing them (and the 757s), though.



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User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 142, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 29128 times:
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Quoting anfromme (Reply 141):
I'm surprised that even some of the MD-80s are going to get the new paintjob.

I'm not. I've been mentioning examples of other airlines repainting aircraft that they would phase out in the near term future. I'll mention them again if you ask.

It doesn't look like any of the 762 will get it, I wouldn't bet on that. Though it is not impossible that one out of the remaining 12 will.

I can imagine that in about 20 years from now when American will be celebrating 100 years of existence, they could repaint an A319/A321 or a 77W in the now old livery. It would be interesting to see an A319 or A321 in the thick red/white/blue cheat line on a silver background with an AA logo on the tail, in 20 years from now when that scheme will long be gone. The now old scheme still seen on many airplanes today (2013) will be considered as retro livery in the 2030s.

Ben Soriano



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User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 143, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 28928 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 142):
Quoting anfromme (Reply 141):I'm surprised that even some of the MD-80s are going to get the new paintjob.

I'm not. I've been mentioning examples of other airlines repainting aircraft that they would phase out in the near term future. I'll mention them again if you ask.

If you think about it, the MD-80s will be around until 2017 to 2019. That's 4 to 7 years from now. Considering that the bare metal needs to be polished with some regularity, painting the planes that will stay in the fleet for several more years (presumably the ex-TWA planes built in 1993 through 1999) means not having to polish those planes while undergoing scheduled maintenance.


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3447 posts, RR: 6
Reply 144, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 28812 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 138):
I guess we can add N8001N / 001 (A319) to the list, since it was delivered yesterday. 002 should arrive on Saturday, I'm being told. Looks like 3KU is now in service, too...

Is AA moving away from the number-letter-letter fleet numbering system used on the Boeing fleet and some of the MD-80s?

Speaking of 3KU, I had a passenger on Monday who was an aviation enthusiast ask me what the tail number for his aircraft was. I was so proud to tell him he'd be flying on an airplane that just arrived on the property two weeks ago.


User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 145, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 28292 times:

Updated 8/5 total is 91 aircraft painted in the new paint.

CR7 (11/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (3/3) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03

A319 (3/3)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003


738 (32/216)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA Currently at GUS
N969AN 3DB
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV

757 (0/97)

763 (14/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373 Currently at GUS
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AN 379
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N388AA 388

762 (0/12)

772 (14/47)
N770AN 7AA Currently at GUS
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N788AN 7AV Currently at VCV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ Just Delivered

MD80 (0/181)

To answer a couple of questions

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 144):
Is AA moving away from the number-letter-letter fleet numbering system used on the Boeing fleet and some of the MD-80s?

No, the A300's were also numbered using only numbers

Quoting PDX88 (Reply 137):
Is there a RES or DECS entry you are using to keep track of which planes have received new paint?

No unfortunately, just keeping track of the aircaft on the RGOL list.



721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
User currently offlineFSXJunkie From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 28123 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 73):

Why scrap it? I personally find the new scheme refreshing when you compare it with the old scheme.

Too expensive to redo the combined US/AA fleet

When CO/UA merged the CO livery was adopted as the UA feet was already in the process of a livery change and it'd be more economical to just paint the UA fleet in CO colors than paint the combined fleet in the "rising tulip" livery.

Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

[Edited 2013-08-05 21:12:41]

User currently offlineboeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1031 posts, RR: 3
Reply 147, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 27871 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 144):
Is AA moving away from the number-letter-letter fleet numbering system used on the Boeing fleet and some of the MD-80s?

Nope first A319 is nose number 1AA

David



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User currently offlineorganizethesky From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 27791 times:

Is N725AN the 56th B777 for AA?


When I did the tour of the Boeing plant in Seattle (June 19th) I saw a 777 in the factory and the decal on the side said "proudly building the 56th 777 for American Airlines. I work at DFW Tower and want to keep track of this particular 777 since I got to see it being born.


User currently offlineSooner787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 149, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 27485 times:

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):

With all due respect, the new AA livery is the future. After winning a CLIO award for the new livery this past May,

DP would be insane to reboot after all the time and $$$$. They've have far more pressing issues to worry about.


User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 150, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 27340 times:

Quoting boeing767mech (Reply 147):
Nope first A319 is nose number 1AA

Small correction, AA is using a numbers only format for the Airbus fleet. As mentioned in the latest update from dtw757, the nose numbers (on property) are 001 through 003. Photos of the nose gear doors also show this numbering.

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[Edited 2013-08-06 21:46:25]


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User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 151, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 27360 times:

Quoting organizethesky (Reply 148):
Is N725AN the 56th B777 for AA?

Yes, N725AN is the 56th 777 for American Airlines. The first flight was on 7/7/13 and delivery to DFW was on 7/31/13.


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I got a chance to check her out while being "Americanized" in the hangar this week. This was my first time to step on a 777-300ER -- I have to say, AA and Boeing have done an amazing job.

Ryan



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3768 posts, RR: 3
Reply 152, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 27262 times:

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
When CO/UA merged the CO livery was adopted as the UA feet was already in the process of a livery change and it'd be more economical to just paint the UA fleet in CO colors than paint the combined fleet in the "rising tulip" livery.

Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

You're kidding yourself if you think it's pure dollars and cents that are driving such a decision. And FWIW, AA's rebranding is much more extensive than some paint jobs on some airplanes.



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User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 153, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 27123 times:

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

Remember that the rebranding plan goes back to when AA announced its 773 and A319/738/A321 orders in 2011, before the Chapter 11 filing. The idea was that with so many new types arriving, it was time to redesign the brand that had been around since the late 1960s.

So, the rebranding effort had started long before Doug Parker started his plan to merge US and AA.

And, I think Parker understands that AA has a better reputation than US. Even my AA friends who hate the new livery are adament that AA planes should be bare metal or silver, and not Useless Air white. And these are people who are glad that Parker is showing Horton the door.

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
When CO/UA merged the CO livery was adopted as the UA feet was already in the process of a livery change and it'd be more economical to just paint the UA fleet in CO colors than paint the combined fleet in the "rising tulip" livery

I know some marketing people, both in the marketing field and business professors who teach marketing, who think this was a bad idea. The United name and tulip U had more recognition globally than the Continental name and the CO globe. In dollars and sense, it was cheaper to simply retitle the CO planes and get the UA fleet into CO's livery. But, if the airline is United, so should the branding.

I still think, when I look at Terminal 1 at ORD, "Why are there so many CO planes there. Oh, wait, CO is now United." I should be thinking, when at IAH, why there are so many planes with tulip Us on the tails, taxiing around.


User currently offlineozark1 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 154, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 26919 times:

Quoting planefreakaa (Reply 6):
The new paint job is starting to grow on me.
Quoting RyDawg82 (Reply 150):
Small correction, AA is using a numbers only format for the Airbus fleet. As mentioned in the latest update from dtw757, the nose numbers (on property) are 001 through 003. Photos of the nose gear doors also show this numbering.

You are correct. The nose gear on the 319 will reflect the same number that is on the tail. I got to tour N9002U this past weekend. It has "02" on the nose gear. So if the tail is N9048U, then it will say "48" on the nose and you will automatically know it's the 48th plane delivered.
This was the first time that I had seen the new livery in person. I have been in the anti-new scheme camp since the beginning. Surprising as it was to me, the most stunning part of the plane is the tail. That tail would look awesome at night with illumination. Everyone will know exactly who that plane belongs to.
The large American font on the side reminds me of Frontier which I think is hideous. The eagle logo is indeed, Greyhound material. Doug seems to think some tweaking might be done to satisfy the US employees who are completely losing their branding. He stated this in a Q and A. He could easily remove the new tail and put that flag they have in its place.
But I might suggest that anyone who is strongly anti-tail take a look at it close up and in person. It completely changed my opinion.


User currently offlinedeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 155, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 26905 times:

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

As much as I hate the new livery, and so hoped Parker would revise (he even hinted!) the fact this thread even exists and that new planes roll out regularly w/ the new paint tell me indeed its here to stay.  


User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 156, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 26819 times:

I seriously doubt DP will switch the livery now and start painting into the US Airways scheme. DL was undergoing a livery change at the same time they were merging with NW and they painted both fleets, no reason to thing AA/US wont do the same. Personally i felt it was a shame that UA adopted the CO livery, seemed a but cheap and not very well thought out to me.

User currently offlineSooner787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 157, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 26750 times:

I know some are anxious to see the new livery on AA's S80's & 757's, but I can't wait to see the new
Livery on the US A330's


User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 158, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 26687 times:

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 157):
I know some are anxious to see the new livery on AA's S80's & 757's, but I can't wait to see the new
Livery on the US A330's

me too! I have to admit, I was skeptical at first but the new livery is really growing on me!


User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 605 posts, RR: 2
Reply 159, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 26545 times:

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

If Parker thinks that's the right move, he's a bigger moron than even I thought.

We didn't build a new airline so that Dougie could slap the American name on a US aircraft and declare victory. IMO, the aviation community learned many things from the UA/CO merger, and one of them was not to "cheapen" the overall feel of your airline's branding by combining elements of the two that way (no offense intended to any UA/CO-ers, it's nothing personal!)

Just my   .



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User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 160, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 26396 times:

Quoting AA94 (Reply 159):
IMO, the aviation community learned many things from the UA/CO merger, and one of them was not to "cheapen" the overall feel of your airline's branding by combining elements of the two that way (no offense intended to any UA/CO-ers, it's nothing personal!)

The problem with the UA/CO merger was that, for all intents and purposes, CO was the acquiring carrier. Yet, Glenn Tilton wasn't willing to do the merger, unless the United name remained, and HQ stayed in Chicago. Putting the UA name on the CO livery probably had more to do with egos than economics. I'm thinking that UA had the larger fleet, and most of the UA fleet was in the white and blue livery, rather than the gray and blue livery. So, finishing the UA fleet and repainting the CO fleet with the tulip U would have been cheaper.

The twist with AA/US is that Parker got his start at AA. I think Parker understands that AA is viewed as a better brand, both in terms of name recognition globally and perceived service quality. His problem, like that of a lot of people, is that he probably isn't thrilled with the livery, and maybe even the brand.

If AA had held off on rebranding until its exit from Chapter 11, my guess is that Parker and Co. would have reviewed what the consultants had proposed and reworked it. I could easily see a freshening of the old livery and brand, perhaps putting American and AA in the US Airways font. or painting the tail blue with the AA logo in silver, to tie US Airways into the post-bankruptcy American.


User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1607 posts, RR: 4
Reply 161, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 26008 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 160):
I'm thinking that UA had the larger fleet, and most of the UA fleet was in the white and blue livery, rather than the gray and blue livery. So, finishing the UA fleet and repainting the CO fleet with the tulip U would have been cheaper.

You're thinking incorrectly. CO and UA had very close to the same number of mainline aircraft, the real difference being in ratio of narrowbody to widebody, where CO had excess narrowbodies and UA had excess widebodies. UA was, as I recall, about 60% done with repainting their fleet into the "Rising" scheme while CO had their entire fleet in the same livery. "Ego" as you put it may have had a say, but there were two deciding factors: for the name United was far more recognized and perceived as more marketable worldwide; for the colors and branding Smisek, Tilton, and the rest of the executive team KNEW they were going to have to get buy-in from the CO employees and would thus have to retain some VERY VISIBLE elements of CO. Keep in mind, unlike DL/NW, CO and UA employee groups had a very long history of being very hostile towards each other.



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User currently offlineArielWar From United States of America, joined Aug 2013, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 162, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 25179 times:

Any new update on the list of new painted aircrafts?

User currently offlineArielWar From United States of America, joined Aug 2013, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 25166 times:

Also Barbara Kiss (the person in charge of the repainting) said that "After a summer break for the busy travel season, repainting RJs will resume with about eight per month." That explains why the cr7 stop receiving the new paint.

User currently offlineRyDawg82 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 868 posts, RR: 8
Reply 164, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 25152 times:

Apologies for not getting the Reg. before I left work, but another 772 left for VCV today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...8/history/20130815/1400Z/KDFW/KVCV

Ryan



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User currently offlineAA773 From UK - England, joined Jun 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 165, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 24975 times:

7CC went to VCV today.

User currently offlinedtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 166, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 24789 times:

Updated 8/16. The number of aircraft in the new paint officially stands at 99 and I am sure there are some already painted not yet delivered pushing the number over 100. Currently 1/3 of all 772's are wearing the new livery! The other day at ORD there were red white and blue tails galore!

CR7 (11/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (3/3) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03

A319 (4/4)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003
N9004F 004 scheduled to arrive DFW 8/20


738 (37/218)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA
N969AN 3DB
N970AN 3DC currently at GUS
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV
N934NN 3KW just delivered
N935NN 3KX just delivered

757 (0/97)

763 (14/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373 Currently at GUS
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AN 379
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N388AA 388

762 (0/12)

772 (16/47)
N770AN 7AA Currently at GUS
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N787AN 7AU currently at VCV
N788AN 7AV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ
N768AA 7CC Currently at VCV


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ

MD80 (0/181)



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User currently offlinearielwar From United States of America, joined Aug 2013, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 167, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 24717 times:

Thanks for the list!! The only good thing about the delayed merger is that more airplanes will be painted, making the decision harder on Parker to change the livery, especially if the wide-bodies are painted.

User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11973 posts, RR: 62
Reply 168, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 24725 times:

Quoting ckfred (Reply 153):
And, I think Parker understands that AA has a better reputation than US. Even my AA friends who hate the new livery are adament that AA planes should be bare metal or silver, and not Useless Air white. And these are people who are glad that Parker is showing Horton the door.

  

Parker isn't stupid. I think (hope) that he understands what he is getting control of (or at least trying to get), and appreciates the legacy and the history that he will soon be responsible for. And that includes a brand that is one of the oldest, most recognized, and most storied in aviation history.

No offense to anyone, but US Airways is not the same. The brand is less than half the age of AA, and it just does not stand for the same thing. I think the merger promo video said it all: going through the history and legacy of the two airlines, AA had things like first transcon jet service, first airport lounge, first modern frequent flyer program, etc. USAirways' big historical claims to fame? First U.S. carrier to fly the A330 and A321. I think that speaks for itself.

As an aside - when I first saw the graphics and then photos of the new AA livery, I had much the same reaction as many others: I was very sad to see the bare metal go, relatively favorable towards the new logo, but hated the new tail. However, having now seen the new livery in person on numerous occasions, I can honestly say that I have really come around to it - even the tail. It really is quite striking in person - especially the tail - and the gray, while not nearly as classy as the shiny silver in my opinion, is actually distinctive when set amidst the white of just about every other airline. The new logo looks great.


User currently offlinemiaami From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 169, posted (1 year 4 months 3 hours ago) and read 23810 times:

Busy day today 8/22/13 moving planes around for new paint.

Flt 9653 VCV-DFW 777- re-painted
Flt 9652 DFW-VCV 777
Flt 9655 ORD-GUS 767
Flt 9654 ORD-GUS 777


User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1652 posts,